Football coaches: Bad sources for theological advice

Guest Post by Morbo

A federal appeals court in Philadelphia this week heard arguments in a case involving a public school football coach who wants to pray with his team.

Marcus Borden of East Brunswick, N.J., claims he just wants to show respect for his players by going down on one knee and bowing his head while they pray. But court documents show that Borden has a long history of promoting Christian religious worship among students, cheerleaders and others. For many years, he either personally led prayer before games or brought in a minister to lead them.

Borden often used this prayer. I found it very interesting:

“[D]ear Lord, please guide us today in our quest, in our game, our championship. Give us the courage and determination that we would need to come out successful. Please let us represent our families and our community well. Lastly, please guide our players and opponents so that they can come out of this game unscathed, no one is hurt.”

It’s nice that Borden prays that no one will get hurt, but note that this request comes after an appeal for victory. God is asked to help the team “come out successful.” I interpret that as, “Let us win.”

This case has many disturbing features. Cheerleaders who complained about the prayers were tarred as “Jewish cheerleaders” and exposed to anti-Semitism. Borden, when told to stop praying with the players, arranged for them to take a vote on having prayer. Everyone knew where the coach stood, so of course the vote was in favor. One boy later told his mother that he opposed the prayers but feared being kept out of the game if he voted no.

All of that is bad, but I keep going back to that prayer.

It’s a prayer for victory in an ultimately meaningless high school football game. No religious person who takes faith seriously would dare approach the supreme force of the universe with such a picayune request.

Arguments against official prayer in public schools tend to focus on how religious minorities or non-believers might feel. Those are compelling, of course, but there is a deeper issue that too many Christians gloss over when they argue that a little prayer never hurt anyone: Why would we wish to turn religious instruction over to people who are not qualified?

Borden is a coach and a Spanish instructor. He is not a theologian or a minister. As a result, he leads his team in prayers for victory. A more thoughtful religious person — someone who actually studied theology or took the time to get ordained (at a real institution, not a fundamentalist academy) — could explain why such prayers are offensive and make for bad religion.

People who believe teacher-led school prayer is no big deal should pay attention to this case. Every parent should be concerned when an unqualified person takes on the task of imparting religious education to children. You never know what they might be telling the youngsters it’s OK to pray for.

> No religious person who takes faith seriously would dare approach the supreme force of the universe with such a picayune request.

Obviously you didn’t grow up in the Bible Belt. Football is the next thing to a religion, even if it is high school. Down there, this would indeed be considered tame. What’s Borden’s background?

  • Praying for victory in sporting events is mainstream Christian theology. Bad theology? Yes, but mainstream nevertheless.

    The next time that you are watching a football game, notice how many players credit their “Lord and Savior” for their success on a given day, as if He had smote the player’s enemies opponents on the field. I have always doubted that God is a football fan.

    I hope that Coach Borden teaches better grammar in Spanish than he uses in English. “Come out successful?” My high school English teacher would have a fit! How about “come out successfully?”

    I guess the Lord doesn’t object to ungrammatical prayer. He hears so much of it.

  • ***…there is a deeper issue that too many Christians gloss over when they argue that a little prayer never hurt anyone….***

    By simply taking these few words to their logical conclusion, one might easily find that the flying of a commercial jet into the WTC on 9/11 was, indeed, no more than “just a little prayer.” The OT is rife with instances, one upon the next, of the same thing. Smitten Philistines, anyone?

    If you’re not “right” with the person who defines what “right” is, then you’re just another Philistine—or in this particular instance, a “Jewish cheerleader….”

  • All of that is bad, but I keep going back to that prayer.

    It’s a prayer for victory in an ultimately meaningless high school football game. No religious person who takes faith seriously would dare approach the supreme force of the universe with such a picayune request.

    This is, without question, the weakest post I have ever seen on this blog.

    The 1st Am. is being violated, school kids are being intimidated, antisemitism is rearing its ugly head as a result of this arsehole’s behaviour but that’s just “bad.” The main concern is the prayer isn’t serious enough.

    Please favour us with examples of what constitutes a serious prayer by the seriously faithful. But before you do that, please present the credentials that qualify you to make this determination.

    Faithfully yours,

    tAiO

  • Ditto ThatTallGuy. In Alabama football IS the state religion. The first two questions anyone is asked are 1) What church do you go to ; 2) what team do you pull for [ choices are Auburn or Alabama].

  • Richard Armour pointed out that Oliver Cromwell attributed his repeated military successes to divine intervention and a simple prayer, “Lord, let me win.”

    Charismatics always seem to find parking places when they need them, too.

    Why God ignores starving millions and gets involved in high school football is a question that requires theological inquiry (Ruben Bolling’s “God-Man” has attempted it from time to time)!

  • It may not be that the insignificant subject of the prayer is a constitutional issue. Still, it is an important theological issue, one that can be used to give pause to those who advocate institutionalized prayer, those who don’t often comprehend constitutional arguments.

    But there is another theological issue here. Believers need to consider this: how effective is a forced (or coerced) prayer? It is on this point that I think you can talk to those that insist on school prayer. Do you really think a bunch of rowdy high schoolers are influenced by the recitation of a canned prayer? Do you think God blesses (or answers) prayers recited in monotone, sometimes intoned against the will? Or is it a sheer exercise of power by those that want to claim sanctimony?

  • While disorganized religion works just fine for me, I should note that It is only a few mainstream religions that teach that you MUST have a clergy person as an interlocutor between you and your deity. I think you are being unduly expansive in suggesting that the lack of such like means these folks (or passengers on a plane, or pagans in a field) are not praying ‘correctly’ or effectively.

    Such prayers are not “offensive and make for bad religion.” They are what people do every day.

    On the other hand… intolerence…

  • tAiO @ 4

    Ooch. Touche.

    When I read the part about qualifying piety I thought of the Quakers and Congregationalists.

    Read up a bit, Morbo.
    Love ya anyway.

  • No religious person who takes faith seriously would dare approach the supreme force of the universe with such a picayune request.

    Why would we wish to turn religious instruction over to people who are not qualified?

    With these two sentences you show an utter ignorance of the fundamentalist evangelical Christian mindset.

    Let me take the second sentence first. In the fundamentalist evangelical mindset ANYONE who is “born again” is qualified to talk about their religious views. ANYONE. It doesn’t matter if you have training – in fact, those with actual theological training are often disdained – what matters is that you read the Bible, believe it with all your heart, mind, and soul, and accept Jesus as your Personal Saviour. That’s it. If you’ve done those things you are eminently qualified (and indeed EXPECTED) to evangelize your personal Christian beliefs to everyone around you. There’s an implicit expectation that those personal Christian beliefs not deviate too far from the beliefs of the rest of the community (which, I think, may be where the emphasis on being able to back up anything you believe with a literal interpretation of a Bible verse came from), but there’s no expectation that you have any kind of formal training. Everyone can be a minister if they set their mind to it.

    As to the first point – a LOT of religions center on making picayune requests of various gods and spirits. “Help us with this hunt”, “Help us defeat that other tribe in battle”, “Help us drive the infidel/white man/Catholic/Protestant out of our lands and return them to us”, etc. Fundamentalist Christianity is a very, very “personal” religion that is heavily influenced by literal readings of the Old Testament of the Bible. The message often is that God will help you if you pray for help – picayune request or no. High Church religions, and even more mainstream Low Church Protestant religions such as Methodism – might see these things as silly, superstitious or even very primitive, but they’re very real requests for divine intervention by the believers.

  • Someone is surprised that a P-E major is a moron???

    C’mon, does anyone remember that the dumbest idiot on the faculty was always called “coach”????

  • I played football in high school in the northern Bible Belt. I was a very good (not great) inside linebacker. But, because I would not participate in the pre-game prayers (I am a Unitarian, and a firm believer in the separation of state and moon-bat wingnuts with their invisible man in the sky) and did not attend a Baptist or fundamentalist church, I only saw action if enough other people got hurt. Back in the’80s (there I go, sounding like an old fart again) this was considered normal.

    BTW, a fun way to screw with fundy minds is to ask them which Bible they use. I tried this on our quarterback during a game. He replied, “THE” Bible. I said, “Cool, I didn’t know you could read Hebrew, Aramaic, Koine Greek and Latin. It took three linemen to pull the quarterback off of me. He got suspended and we lost the next three games. It was worth it, though.

  • I don’t see anything wrong with the prayer at all – in fact, it seems a model of non-offensiveness, and if you could get everybody onboard, it’s stunningly inclusive. It doesn’t sound to me like he’s praying for victory directly – he specifically asks for the qualities that would make victory a possibility; courage and determination. Are these qualities you wouldn’t want to see in your kid?

    Some trends in political analysis appear to be growing so sensitive to religion that any mention of it is greeted with hysteria. I totally agree that nobody should be forced to profess a faith they don’t feel, or to recite mantras that may oppose the faith they do feel. Sports at any level is not about religion, and I’m sure all the deities have deeper worries than the victor at a high-school football game. If the coach pressured them to pray that there’d be a new BMW Z-model in the parking lot for each player after the game, or that they’d all get laid by the cheerleaders, I’d be in the front rank of protest with a torch and a pitchfork. However, this prayer asks that they represent their families and communities well, and seeks courage and determination. You could do far worse than that.

    Religion shouldn’t be forced on anybody. But it doesn’t need to be scary either. It’s nutty fundamentalism that has brought us to this unhappy state.

  • If the coach pressured them to pray that there’d be a new BMW Z-model in the parking lot for each player after the game, or that they’d all get laid by the cheerleaders, I’d be in the front rank of protest with a torch and a pitchfork.

    Actually, convincing them that prayer might help with that cheerleader part would be a very effective for of proseletyzing. . .

    I hope that Coach Borden teaches better grammar in Spanish than he uses in English. “Come out successful?” My high school English teacher would have a fit! How about “come out successfully?”

    You’d think this would be an easy one for Wingers to get. So many have “come out successfully” of late, with or without benefit of prayer.

  • #13 Mark said:

    However, this prayer asks that they represent their families and communities well, and seeks courage and determination. You could do far worse than that.

    I agree but why does that need a prayer to God? Whatever happens during the game will be TOTALLY dependent upon the actions of the players, coaches, referees, etc and has nothing to do with GOD. I think it would be great if the coach said exactly the same thing but put the emphasis and responsibility where it belongs on themselves through their actions not their whoever it might be GOD.

    I’m sorry, the devil made me write this because I didn’t pray to Jesus this morning that my fingers might hit the keyboard correctly and therefore represent my family and community well and I don’t get injured – ouch, there’s that carpal tunnel again!

  • “Give us the courage and determination that we would need to come out successful.”

    If God could grant individuals courage, determination, or other positive character traits, there ought to be no crime. Unless… crooks pray to God for the courage & determination to carry out that mugging or whatnot.

    Or unless God is evil. Or humans are mistaken about God’s power to influence human behavior. Or nonexistent.

  • Richard Armour was an All-American Football Player from Central State University and Detroit, Michigan, he led the nation in tackles in 1979. His nick name was Hammer. I played for Tennessee State as a Fullback and we hated to block this cat because he could knock you out with his left or right forarm.

    Jeff Carson

  • Detroit King, played for Coach Reynolds. Yes I remember him. I played for Northern High in the Mid 70’s. King was tough. I played DB and Running Back.

    Joseph Bacon

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