Clinton is blessed with inept enemies

Kevin Drum raised a point this morning that bears repeating: Hillary Clinton’s “polarizing reputation might actually help” her presidential campaign. It sounds counter-intuitive, but it’s absolutely right.

For more than a decade, she has been attacked in a shelfload of books, on countless websites and in repeated direct-mail drives. Her detractors see her as a calculating opportunist with a crisis-ridden past.

Paradoxically, Clinton may be benefiting from that unflattering image as she reintroduces herself.

“If she showed up and doesn’t have a horn and tail and speaks clearly and engagingly, people say, ‘You know, she’s all right,’ ” said Andrew E. Smith, a pollster at the University of New Hampshire.

Clinton’s critics have been so unhinged in their attacks, and so scathing in their criticisms, that a casual observer who hasn’t seen too much of Clinton lately starts to think she’s the Wicked Witch of the West. After all, Limbaugh, Fox News, & Co. characterize her as having no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

And then voters see her for themselves … and realize she’s not awful after all. Indeed, she’s quite pleasant, and shows a fairly warm personality, in addition to being obviously bright.

In a sense, Clinton’s detractors have been too successful. They’ve lowered expectations, which manage to make the senator look even better.

It reminds me a lot of the period before the 2004 presidential debates, when Bush-Cheney ’04 convinced much of the nation that John Kerry could barely complete a sentence without tripping over his own words in some kind of desperate flip-flop. Kerry was “dull,” “wishy-washy,” and “unsure of himself.” The GOP-driven conventional wisdom was that Kerry’s tendency towards nuance made him “aloof” and “overly cautious.” In the debates, he was going to be awful — a Time magazine poll taken before the first debate showed that Americans expected Bush, not Kerry, to “win” the debate, 44% to 32%.

Of course, Kerry did a great job, and his performance in the debates helped narrow the gap considerably. The real Kerry didn’t match the Kerry caricature at all.

I think we’re seeing the same phenomenon play out with Hillary Clinton. People almost expect not to like her, because they’ve been told for years that she’s “cold,” “calculating,” and “unfeeling.” She’s supposed to come across as “ambitious” and “power-hungry.” And then voters listen to her for a few minutes and realize none of those qualities are there.

What’s more, as Kevin argued way back in January, the right has thrown just about every attack imaginable at this woman, and her political standing is still pretty strong. That they’ve managed to lower expectations is just an unexpected bonus for Clinton’s campaign.

A lot of people outside of New York will soon be getting their first real look at Hillary since 2000. I think they’re going to be surprised. Many of them probably have vague, Limbaugh-fueled recollections of her as a dragon lady of some kind, but when they actually see her for the first time on Larry King or Oprah or whatever, she’s going to seem much more engaging than they remember.

Conversely, I think Giuliani has the opposite problem. People have fond memories of his press conferences in September 2001, and then they hear him talk now — and he doesn’t do himself any favors.

Regardless, it’s another reason not to underestimate Clinton’s campaign. She’s not only impressing voters, she’s surprising them.

A fine point. There’s also an additional point in there somewhere.

Hillary’s gotten her enemies so unhinged that they’re no longer capable of a nuanced attack on her — just increasingly shrill ones as they get increasingly flustered that the general population doesn’t see they Hillary they do. Not only have her enemies set the bar too low for her, they’re incapable of setting it higher.

  • No sale. IMO she’s “impressing” a lot of people because the press keeps saying she’s the frontrunner, and that’s what a lot of people look for. They’re that stupid. And of course she’s the frontrunner because she’s got the name recognition thing going for her (ask yourself if she would be a contender without it).

    The beltway bobbleheads like her because just like them, she was totally wrong about Iraq and refuse to really come clean about why, and refuses to acknowledge how right the hippies were. She also thinks questions about her support for the Lieberman “Iranian terrorists are killing our troops” POS are stupid and/or staged.

    Rupert Freaking Murdoch held a fundraiser for her. Any true liberal would have told him to shove his fundraiser up his ass, or donated the money to the ACLU.

    I’ll vote for her if she’s the nominee, but Jesus Christ we finally have an opportunity to get a real progressive in office with a Democratic congress, and we’re going to go with someone Rupert Murdoch likes enough to have fundraisers for???????

    WTF.

  • Kinda counter-intuitive, but it makes sense.

    I like Hil on the Hill but I suspect I would have the same buyer’s remorse after she took office as I have had after the 2006 DemCongs took office. Underwhelmed to say the least.

  • Plenty of enemies can form cogent arguments against her worthiness for the Oval Office.
    We just get no press.

    I’d be less upset at my new Democratic congress if they would either use the nuclear option or, preferably, codify the filibuster into law rather than make it a procedural tradition the GOP can toss out the moment Diebold manages to give the majority back to them.
    (Perhaps, ironically, use the nuclear option to pass the filibuster law.)

  • To use “the nuclear option” requires that the President of the Senate (i.e., the Vice President) be of the same party so he can make the ruling that leads to it. Why oh why is it that so many “progressives” have such mile-wide-inch-deep political educations???

  • Limbaugh, Fox News, & Co. characterize her as having no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

    Why? They agree with her votes in favor of the Patriot Act, AUMF in Iraq for unconstitutional, undeclared war, REAL ID Act, and AUMF in Iran (Kyl-Lieberman).

  • Racerx #2: Americans will never vote for a progressive/liberal as long as they remain terrified of socialism and unreasonably suspicious of government in general (thanks to Reagan, and reinforced by Bush administration ineptitude and corruption).

    We desperately need a mature, educated populace that understands the need for both private and public solutions to problems, and looks for the best approach. But we haven’t got that. The right has been very successful in demonizing government at all levels, and they have also been successful in characterizing liberals as looking only to government for answers.

    The truth is liberals/progressives support capitalism and free markets as much as conservatives, but understand the need for some restraint, and balance. Unfortunately, half the people think we’re enemies of free enterprise.

    Americans have a lot of growing up to do. But it’s very difficult in an environment of such partisan hostility.

    So Clinton, as a centrist, is probably the best we can do in these times.

    Hmmmm – a little off topic. Apologies.

  • Clinton is blessed with inept enemies

    She doesn’t have to be the best person for the job, just the best person running for the job.

    I don’t have to outrun the tiger. I just have to outrun you.

    Wax on. Wax off. Sand the floor. Et cetera.

    “Madame President.” Get used to it.

  • People almost expect not to like her, because they’ve been told for years that she’s “cold,” “calculating,” and “unfeeling.”

    As a progressive, I think that Hillary is cold and calculating, although it may be a stretch for the ‘unfeeling’ part. These are the traits of the Establishment, and she comes across to me as more of the same rather than some trailblazing godsend. She kind of scares me, actually. A bit too pandering, a bit too quiet for my tastes in rejecting the Establishment–as if she is really part of the problem.

    Much rather Edwards or Obama, at least right now, for me. Hillary has a lot to do to convince me to support her.

  • To use “the nuclear option” requires that the President of the Senate (i.e., the Vice President) be of the same party so he can make the ruling that leads to it. Why oh why is it that so many “progressives” have such mile-wide-inch-deep political educations??? — Tom Cleaver

    You are absolutely right — on both counts.

    Also people don’t seem to understand that old time filibusters, like the one in “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” are a thing of the past. Until 1975 cloture required 66 votes. That year it was reduced to 60, making a cloture vote numerically much easier to achieve, but the tradeoff was that senators no longer had to actually stand there and talk — a real filibuster. Instead, it was only necessary for 41 senators to register their intention to filibuster. I keep hearing people moan about the Dem leadership not requiring the Repubs to actually stand there and filibuster, when in fact the leadership is only following the existing Senate rules. And the Dems do not have anywhere near the votes to change those rules.

  • People almost expect not to like her, because they’ve been told for years that she’s “cold,” “calculating,” and “unfeeling.” She’s supposed to come across as “ambitious” and “power-hungry.” And then voters listen to her for a few minutes and realize none of those qualities are there.

    When I hear her speak, she sounds like just about every corporate Director I’ve ever worked for. Ambitious and power-hungry? Probably – they wouldn’t have the positions they have if they weren’t.

    I think this analysis is spot on. And, when combined with the fact that the Village stenographer pool has decided that they like her now (as opposed to ’92-’00 when she “wasn’t our kind of people” to the gaggle), she’s coming out ahead in the narrative. Plus she’s obviously a fighter – people like that. There are a lot of folks who remember her willingness to talk about the “vast right-wing conspiracy” and now that they’ve lived under the aegis of that same conspiracy for the last few years, are ready to see her fight.

    I’d prefer someone other than Clinton as the nominee myself, but I gotta say – she does seem like the Democratic nominee most likely to put up a hellaciously aggressive fight against her detractors. And there’s something appealing about that in a candidate.

  • A bunch of people here seem to think that Hillary will be a “cold and calculating” President, probably pretty “shrill.” She has certainly been frustratingly careful, and certainly has cast some vote I haven’t liked at all (Kyl Lieberman comes to mind). But damn she did a fine job at pivoting RW talking points and atatcking on Fox 2 weeks ago.

    And I suspect as President she will be much like Bill, and that would be just fine by me. Peace, prosperity and competent people in government sounds pretty good right now.

  • When the day comes that we join the dozen other countries we generally consider less progressive in actually deciding that someone from the female half of the population may be as able to lead as the males who have screwed up so badly for so long, it will be a centrist. Guaranteed. There simply is no other way it will happen. So unless you want to be the last country on earth other than the Vatican that appears to consider women appropriate for the ultimate leadership position, you will have to accept a centrist. It may not be HRC, but whoever it is will not be a leftist. Indeed, look at the Democratic women in the Senate: the majority are very centrist. Klobuchar, McCaskill, Feinstein, Cantwell have all been voting “wrong” on a lot of the issues important to the regulars here lately; even Patty Murray has moved a bit to the middle, and even someone safe and established like Mikulski has been voting center. Until there has been a massive societal change in both moving the political spectrum to the left and in the voters’ views of women, this will be the reality.

  • I think Hilary’s situation is somewhat similar to her husband, Mr. Big Dog. If you recall, the general public still liked him in the polls during the Lewinsky mess. Just because the MSM excoriated him didn’t mean that most voters didn’t like him and his performance as President. The same thing is going on with Ms. Clinton. Once you get way from her rabid, insular critics, lots of voters choose her.

  • Hillary is getting nods because of “electability.” “Electability” gave us John Kerry. “Electability” is over rated.

  • Jen, you and I must not follow the same media. Every story I see includes a reminder about how “divisive” HRC is, and how the concerns among Dem activists are they she will mobile Republicans – i.e. a concern that she is not electable. (Much as I see on the blogs.)

  • I would have to agree with the second blogger.

    Hillary is the front runner only because the “right” media want her to be. If the really wanted to attack her just point out that she has Republican values — No Constitution, big business and keep up the war.

    Secretly I believe they want her to win the nomination because it’s a win/win situation for the Republicans.

  • Unlike most of her critics here, and those that set up phony storefront poverty centers and the like, Hillary, upon leaving law school and for most of her early professional life, actually worked for, established, and served on the boards of activist organizations dedicated to serving children, women’s rights, and the poor. When she was just thirty years old, she was already so well known and highly regarded as an activist in these areas, that President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the Board of the US Legal Services Corporation, a nonprofit organization that offered free legal representation to the poor.

    I’ve known people like her when I worked for Citizens for a Better Environment in Chicago – people with advanced degrees that could have worked for six figures in any private firm that found fulfillment in public service and activism to support their heartfelt concerns instead. These are facts that show more about her inner character then does the image created by the WSJ editorial page or the progressiver-than-thou shrillaries. That’s what comes through in public appearances and renders the myth of the cold and calculating, self-centered bitch so ridiculous to those who chose to believe their lying eyes.

  • I have commented before that Hillary’s detractors might, because of their endless, sexist, libelous etc., and almost twenty years’ worth of baseless hatred, create a back lash of sympthy for Hillary.
    Especially from women, as so much of the hate mongers lies have been gender and sexually based.
    If Hillary can rise above, or ignore the lies and phallic assaults, the liars will have actually enhanced the appearance of her personal and leadership qualities, and stimulated a sympathy and respect for her and what she has had to endure.

    If they had left her alone she would have had only a fraction of the press headlines.
    It is actually the Republican Harpies who have given her national standing.

  • the trouble with ‘calculating’ cunts is that sometime they calculate things wrongly and voila we have a w screwing up the world … not just the country but the whole fucking planet … a little incompetent asshole like w can not do that much damage alone unless there is a shitload of calculating whores totaling things up in his favor…. one of the ‘calculators’ was that clinton whore herself .. as I pointed out before w ‘happened’ because of the clintons not getting involved in what was their last chore to perform while getting out of Dodge .. that clinton cocksucker surely could have weighed in and stopped SCOTUS … both the WH and SCOTUS had the same clout .. at least the fight would have been on the forefront and pricks like scalia and thomas surely would not have had that ultimate cunt -o’connor- on their side .. a little spot light goes along way sometimes … at least gore would not have been as bad as w .. no one could have been as bad as that retarded prick …

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