Republicans rally around Clinton’s ‘baby bonds’ proposal

About two weeks ago, Hillary Clinton, responding to a question at a Congressional Black Caucus conference, mentioned in an off-hand remark the idea of $5,000 “baby bonds,” a policy proposal that’s been floating around think tanks for years. The idea is the government would issue a bond for every baby born in the U.S., which could be tapped only for big expenses such as college. It could, the senator said, “be a good way to get them started on a lifetime of saving and growing wealth.”

Larry Sabato said this was “one of the few mistakes Hillary Clinton has made in her campaign.” The far-right Washington Times argued today that the off-hand comment is so serious, it could undermine Clinton’s presidential chances.

Republican strategists say Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s call for giving every newborn $5,000 for education is the first major mistake in her front-running campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.

They say it undermines the centrist image the New York Democrat has carefully built and, if exploited skillfully, could prove fatal in the 2008 general election.

“I’m shocked that more Republican candidates haven’t taken on ‘Hillary Bonds,’ ” Pennsylvania political consultant Charles Gerow said. “This is a layup for GOP hopefuls.”

Rudy Giuliani was the only candidate to seriously attack Clinton over the idea, which he described as “socialist,” and which he compared to George McGovern’s policy agenda from 1972. (The attack lost some salience when we learned that that Giuliani voted for McGovern at the time.)

The Washington Times quoted some Republican insiders saying they were relieved more GOP candidates downplayed the idea, because they’re afraid Clinton’s suggestion is so radical, it could undermine her chances at winning the Democratic nomination. “I think that almost all Republican voters saw this plan as so outrageous that we had hoped that Hillary would not be challenged on this by any of our candidates, as it will be a great talking point during the general election battle,” said Rick Beltram, the Republican Party chairman in Spartanburg County, S.C. Beltram added, “We are so hopeful that she will be the Democratic nominee.”

I have no idea why Republicans are so excited about this.

First, Clinton hasn’t actually endorsed this policy. After the CBC event, Clinton told reporters this was “just an idea I threw out,” because she’s “looking for a conversation.” The WSJ reported today, “Clinton confirmed she wouldn’t propose a $5,000 ‘baby bond’ as a savings incentive.”

It was just a candidate straying from her talking points to mention an idea that policy experts have been floating for years. No biggie.

Second, as Matt Yglesias noted, the idea itself is hardly crazy.

Nick Beaudrot, baby bonds fan and John Edwards fan, notes that his idol “has said good things about these sorts of plans before.” Tony Blair and Gordon Brown pioneered a similar policy in the United Kingdom several years ago. Ray Boshara at the New America Foundation is also a longtime advocate of these measures, and it goes even further back to Bruce Ackerman and Anne Alstott’s book, The Stakeholder Society.

One of the main policies that made the United States we know and love was the Homestead Act of the 19th century. The question this was intended to address was how to dispose of the vast land mass that the country was in the process of stealing from its native inhabitants. One way to do this would have been to auction it off to the highest bidder. Wealthy investors would have bought large estates and hired overseers and tenants to farm the land while living back home in New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, wherever. Instead, the congress guaranteed a small farm to anyone willing to move west and live and work on the land, building a property owning democracy of smallholders wherein ownership of the means of production (viz. land) was widely distributed.

Baby bonds could and should be a step toward creating a 21st century version of a society lack that — one in which every citizen who works hard and obeys the law gets to share in the prosperity that’s created by everyone’s labor together.

This was hardly a Clinton gaffe, but to hear the reaction, candidates aren’t supposed to have any spontaneous discussions at all. The overreaction here is kind of crazy.

If HRC never strayed from the talking points, she’d get blasted for being too careful, controlled and calculating. I’m sure she understands by now that there is no strategy that keeps the attacks at bay. (Although it was an interesting slip for a candidate who has been highly disciplined).

Substantively, I have mixed feelings. Anything that ties back to the idea of an “ownership” society at this point raises red flags for me, but god knows giving each newborn a $5000 head start is a better use of the treasury than endless war (which, I think, should also be HRC’s defense to right wing attacks.)

  • I have no idea why Republicans are so excited about this.

    Beats talking about serious issues

  • Meanwhile, Drudge has a picture of Hillary in a witch costume above his big headline. But the article about Hillary that he links is actually flattering to her.

    It’s gonna be a long, ugly campaign at the Drudge Report. But as Martin said, it beats talking about serious issues.

  • Are they serious about wanting her as the Dem nominee? I know that they want her to be the nominee so they can continue to brand her as Satan and have a good punching bag, but for years they have been going after her, and they only seem to increase her popularity. I don’t know how she stacks up against the Republican nominees head-to-head in the polls (my guess is favorably), but it seems to me that they are taking a big risk here. They are saying “bring her on” and she is most definitely going to bring it.

  • If RooDee wants to call the government giving people something “socialist,” then what should one call it when the government gives their fat-wallet friends one handout after another? Seems pretty socialist to me. The old USSR did what this administration does—gives the goodies to Party insiders and psychophantic loyalists—and tosses the table-scraps on the floor to the People.

    I guess they don’t call themselves “RedStaters” for nothing now—do they?

  • I thought the conservatives were scared that we weren’t having enough babies, so we’ll soon be overwhelmed by Eurabia? You’d think they’d support a plan like this that would serve as an incentive to breed.

  • Well, I prefer guaranteeing that anyone capable of doing the work should be educated at public expense for the public good (not necessarily K-12 for those who don’t benefit — AB or MA or PhD for those who do) — if Egypt can give its citizens free higher education, why not “the world’s richest nation”?

    The health care schemes also disappoint (except for Kucinich, of course) — what do you do with a person who refuses to purchase health insurance — what is the penalty for breaking that law? An unafordable fine? Expensive prison time? Gradual expansion of both Medicare & Medicaid until everyone is covered in the already existing programs seems much better (except to insurance companies, of course).

  • Maybe I haven’t been paying close enough attention, but have the Republican contenders floated any ideas as substantial as Clinton’s offhand suggestion? We’ve got Obama coming out with a new policy paper every week, but what are the Republicans answering with? It’s like they’re not even running for the same job!

    Which, of course, they aren’t; they’re seeking the nomination of a party which does not care about policy junk.

  • My first thought when I heard of the proposal was that Hillary was proposing setting this up to offset the massive per-capita debt increase that Bush and the Republicans have saddled each baby with through their huge federal budget deficits.

  • This is actually a pretty good idea, something I’ve studied a bit in my professional life, and I don’t understand why the Republicans deplore it–other than their general loathing for anything that increases equity, I guess.

    The devil’s in the details, but a “Baby Bond” to be used for skills/credential acquisition, a down payment on a home or what have you, could do almost unlimited good. An “ownership society” that’s based in equal opportunity and competent management of common goods and resources isn’t something we should fear just because an idiot used the phrase…

  • What’s the difference between this program and conservative favorite public school vouchers? Both take money away from the treasury and are to be used by children to help their learning and development.

  • This Idea compares to Senator William Roth’s plan to REALLY help with education and retirement(Roth IRA). I agree with dajafi, just because you plan for the future does not make you a conservative or just because you help others plan for the future make you a commie.
    Ownership is the real issue here and we can all vote with our dollars, but you must have dollars to vote. If you are up to your eyeballs in debt to VISA then you have to stay in line and not get uppity.
    Living within your means is called a fiscally conservative idea when referred to in politics, but un-American if you practice it at home personally.

    kill your cell phone

    save your money

    live artfully

    sermon over

  • Your right ZG, you should just kill your cell service. Whether you have a telephone number or not, whether you have signed up for service or not, the cell phone can connect to 911.

    Just stay charged

  • “We are so hopeful that she will be the Democratic nominee.”

    Indeed they are. And we should be very mindful of that.

    The wingnut base has but one thing left to get them out to the polls: Hillary Hatred.

    No other Dem will get them out of their chairs like she will.

  • When I saw, “baby bonds” in the headline, I thought this was a government-funded, performance-enhancing steroid program — pays to read the actual post, yes?

  • Maybe because it’s a terrible idea? I’m sorry, offhand or not, it’s an appalling idea. How much money would this idea cost? By my calculations, approximately 21 billion dollars a year. Ludicrous.

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