Romney will protect the country — if his lawyers approve

When listening to a presidential candidate, there’s often a significant difference between what he or she literally said and what he or she clearly meant.

For example, when listening to yesterday’s Republican debate live, I heard Mitt Romney talk about congressional approval for military strikes in Iran. At the time, I knew what he meant, so his response didn’t seem controversial. But on further reflection, this might come back to haunt him.

MATTHEWS: Governor Romney, that raises the question, if you were president of the United States, would you need to go to Congress to get authorization to take military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities?

ROMNEY: You sit down with your attorneys and tell you what you have to do, but obviously, the president of the United States has to do what’s in the best interest of the United States to protect us against a potential threat. The president did that as he was planning on moving into Iraq and received the authorization of Congress.

MATTHEWS: Did he need it?

ROMNEY: You know, we’re going to let the lawyers sort out what he needed to do and what he didn’t need to do, but certainly what you want to do is to have the agreement of all the people in leadership of our government, as well as our friends around the world where those circumstances are available. (emphasis added)

On the substance, that’s not a particularly bad answer. There is some difference of opinion about congressional authorization when it comes to military strikes, so, depending on circumstances, it’s not unreasonable for a president to check with counsel about what’s required.

But that’s dealing with the obvious, intended meaning. If you work for Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, or John McCain, there’s another way of looking at this: Mitt Romney said he’d deal with a military crisis by checking with his lawyers. In fact, he said it twice.

TNR’s Jason Zengerle makes a very good point.

It seems to me that Romney’s answer alienates two diametrically opposed sets of voters. For voters who think the president should consult with Congress before going to war, Romney’s answer is so lame and weaselly that it only serves to re-enforce the perception that the candidate has no core convictions. And for voters who think we should “bomb, bomb Iran,” Romney’s reliance on “the lawyers” will be read as a sign of abject weakness — no different from John Kerry’s “global test” remark in 2004.

In a GOP primary, it probably makes more sense to pander to the latter type of voter rather than the former; but with his answer, I think Romney runs the risk of not winning over any of them.

I think the “global test” analogy is spot-on. Kerry was talking about international credibility in the context of a military invasion, but the Bush gang made it sound as if Kerry wouldn’t act on national security matters without getting approval from other countries. It was absurd, but the argument quickly went to the top of the GOP’s talking points in October 2004.

Likewise, Romney’s assertion that, when facing a crisis, lawyers will “tell you what you have to do,” could soon be a TV ad on New Hampshire airwaves. Hell, if Romney gets the nomination, and Dems want to play hardball, I could imagine this quote hanging around for quite a while.

If Dems want to play hardball?

Dude, wanna buy some Florida real estate?

  • Notice how many questions at ALL of the debates are about attacking Iran. Why not about attacking the Sudan or China or North Korea? Repeating “attack Iran’ over and over again as if this is a way of getting us used to the idea. We all know the answers or approvals won’t come from attorneys…they are used only to justify behavior after it is done.

  • “Hell, if Romney gets the nomination, and Dems want to play hardball, I could imagine this quote hanging around for quite a while.”

    I hope you’re not suggesting that the Democrats wouldn’t take legal obligations into account in crafting foreign policy? If “hardball” becomes “let’s see who can act more like the Bush administration,” there is no hope for this country.

  • It would be good if the next president, no matter which party, counts to ten and follows the constitution before she or he decides to start another war with anyone. This current administration cares not a whit for our rule of law, so his yes men would want the arrogant power grab to continue. It is too bad that W didn’t ask a lawyer or two if what he was about to do was constitutional four and a half years ago.

  • ROMNEY: You know, we’re going to let the lawyers sort out what he needed to do and what he didn’t need to do, but certainly what you want to do is to have the agreement of all the people in leadership of our government, as well as our friends around the world where those circumstances are available.

    I love the “where those circumstances are available” clause. He makes it sound like what he’s saying is that you make sure everyone with brains is on your side first, but then he tacks that clause on so what he’s really saying, if you look, is that you need to get everyone to agree with you before you strike if you can get everyone to agree with you before you strike.

  • “Hell, if Romney gets the nomination, and Dems want to play hardball, I could imagine this quote hanging around for quite a while.”

    Hillary Clinton will play fuckin’ hardball and she’ll rip out Romney’s fuckin’ throat with this. I guarantee it. If the nation is under threat, the president makes a fuckin’ decision and if necessary, asks the congress to DECLARE war. He doesn’t cry to his fuckin’ lawyers like a big fat pussy, hoping they will tell him what to do. Fuck Romney. Clinton is gonna smash his pretty fucking face in come election day. GO HILLARY!

  • Crack open the Constitution, NeoCons, only Congress has the authority to declare war.

    That only works if Congress lives up to its constitutional responsibilities. Congress has abdicated its authority with weaselly “Use of Force” authorizations. It’s a great dodge if you don’t care about constitutional government. You get to look “strong” while evading any responsibility for the outcome. If the non-war war goes badly then you can always say that you were misled or that you didn’t think that the president would actually exercise the war-making authority that you voted him. You obviate the need for shared sacrifice and you reduce one of the most solemn and serious things that this nation can do to a parliamentary maneuver.

  • Let’s be mindful of some of the lawyers Bush was consulting with…

    Alberto Gonzales
    Harriet Miers
    John Yoo

    Otherwise known as “the enablers” of such wonderful things as the unitary executive, torture, rendition, ignoring FISA, etc. All of whom were backed up and staffed with people who provided them with what Bush wanted.

    Try framing “consulting with lawyers” as “finding a legal justification for what I want to do,” and then imagine all the things any of these candidates might dream up.

    Unless and until you can break the bond between the executive and the judicial, where the DOJ is enabling and never questioning the actions of the WH, we are going to be in serious trouble no matter who the president is. Add another Supreme Court Justice appointed by a Republican president, and it’s game over.

  • Wouldn’t want to lose the guys-with-insane-views-on-foreign-policy vote. The Jon Boltens of the world are very sure of themselves. Just look how right they turned out to be about the N. Korea issue.

  • If there were a coordinate branch of goverment to provide review, an insane wacko could keep you from doing something necessary and heroic, just like coach telling you to pass more in high school or mom telling you now cookies before bedtime when you were a kid.

  • If any of Romney’s opponents (Republican or Democrat) plans to use the “lawyers argument” against him, Romney can come out the winner in the end. If anything, Romney’s comment can be a plus for him in advocating the rule of law and the need for the president to consult first, as opposed to what people accuse Bush of unilaterally making the choice to go to war. So in principle, Romney always wins.

  • Swan, by the tenor and continuing of you’re arguments you clearly do not undersatand that the ninja are real. For your information, the ninja are an organisation that were started in Japan in the 1500’s. They learned and used many of their skills for assassination, lie detection, security, and investigation. Many ninja abilities allow a master practitioner to kill one with a single blow or even to prolong death excrutiatingly for hours. These are all capable of being executed with perfect stealth. Even a nutjob and total idiot like yourself should be able to understand something like this.

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