It’s still no laughing matter

Hillary Clinton appeared on MSNBC’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” on Thursday, prompting CBS News to run a report on the interview. It included this jaw-dropper, by way of reader DOK:

During the twelve-minute interview, the former first lady chuckled in response to Olbermann. But she never unleashed the highly-scrutinized, overly-analyzed belly laugh known as “the cackle” that has been the focus of national media over the past few weeks. Which raises the question: Has the tightly-managed Clinton campaign put the kibosh on the cackle?

Yes, we’ve apparently reached a point in the media’s coverage of the campaign in which news outlets find it noteworthy when they don’t notice anything unusual about Sen. Clinton’s laugh.

As Greg Sargent put it, “We’ve come full circle: Damned if you do cackle; damned if you don’t.”

I was particularly fond of the way CBS tried to distance itself from its own report. The senator’s laugh, the report said, is “overly analyzed.” Apparently, it’s so excessive that CBS finds it necessary to note its absence.

In related news, Rudy Giuliani delivered a speech yesterday in which he didn’t answer his cell phone; Mitt Romney answered questions without abandoning a position he held five minutes prior; John McCain hosted a town-hall forum in which he did not refer to anyone as a “little jerk”; and Fred Thompson went the whole day without responding to a reporter’s question with, “I don’t know anything about that.”

Hillary Clinton interveiwed by Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday-

WALLACE: Senator, in an interesting bit of karma, we are talking on the first anniversary of my interview with your husband, and I would like to show you a clip from that interview. Here it is.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BILL CLINTON, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: You did FOX’s bidding on this show. You did your nice little conservative hit job on me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WALLACE: Senator, talk about conservative hit jobs, right-wing conspiracies — why do you and the president have such a hyper-partisan view of politics?

(LAUGHTER)

That smarmy little weasel Chris Wallace deserved to be laughed at for making such a ridiculously hypocritical ambush. I’m glad it got the airplay that it did.

  • Today we must look to the city of Las Vegas, Nevada, as a metaphor of our national character and aspiration, its symbol a thirty foot-high cardboard picture of a slot machine and a chorus girl. For Las Vegas is a city entirely devoted to the idea of entertainment, and as such proclaims the spirit of a culture in which all public discourse increasingly takes the form of entertainment. Our politics, religion, news, athletics, education and commerce have been transformed into congenial adjuncts of show business, largely without protest or even much popular notice. The result is that we are a people on the verge of amusing ourselves to death. –Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

  • I have never heard any news reporter refer to a man’s laugh as a cackle. Consequently, I just see this as old fashioned sexism.

  • Terry, you inspired me. I went to thesaurus.com and looked up what other options there are for the word laugh.
    http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/laugh
    They are:

    beam, break up*, burst*, cachinnate, chortle, chuckle, convulse, crack up*, crow, die, die laughing*, fracture*, giggle, grin, guffaw, hee-haw, howl, roar, scream, shout, shriek, simper, smile, smirk, snicker, snigger, snort, split, tehee, titter, whizgigging, whoop*

    guffaw, hee-haw, snigger. I think those could aptly be applied to members of the male gender.

    Snigger. That could aptly be applied to video I’ve seen of the eldest son of Geroge H.W. Bush.

    . . . .

    Is this why some campaigns have talked of having a blogger along on campaigns, so they can do meta-analysis of the media? I’d love to see a blogger cover the media the same way that the media covers the events.

    CBS News reporter Fernando Suarez, strongly denied our report that he snorts while guffawing about campaign gaffes. “You’ve got it all wrong,” he said. Uh huh. When we asked his proponent of gotcha journalism the question, “When did you stop beating your wife?” he said, “You’ve got to be kidding me.” No Fernando, we aren’t kidding.

  • I’m looking at that list again. Cackle isn’t even in there. It’s in the synonym list for giggle, though:

    cackle, chortle, crow, exult, guffaw, hee-haw*, laugh, smile, snicker, snigger, sniggle, tehee, titter

    Okay, have at it.

  • …Fred Thompson went the whole day without responding to a reporter’s question with, “I don’t know anything about that.”

    I’m having a hard time believing that!

    I think Terry Turner has it absolutely right, but I also think they’re mad that she’s essentially calling them out.

    Those who’ve read many of my recent comments know I’m not a fan of Hillary, but laughing in the face of these partisan hacks pretending to be journalists is about the only valid response.

  • Actually now that you mention Rudy Giuliani’s laugh really is much more of a cackle than Clinton’s. When he laughs it sounds more like something you might hear in a chicken coop. Hers is much more lilting and good-natured sounding.

  • I don’t know how many read Darrin Bell’s cartoon “Candorville” (one of the few things left that makes it worthwhile to buy the litterbox liner formerly known as the Los Angeles Times), but he has a character labelled “mainstreaa media” who is the dumbest-looking, dumbest-sounding fat white guy in awful clothes that could be.

    What a perfect description of these otherwise-unemployable morons.

  • Mitt Romney answered questions without abandoning a position he held five minutes prior;

    Come now, Steve – some things just aren’t believable.

    As far as Clinton’s laugh – I saw the Countdown interview and the reason she didn’t do it is fairly obvious to anyone who watched the other interviews – Olberman didn’t ask her some ridiculous question that deserved to be mocked instead of answered. Her “cackle” in the previous interviews were in response to ridiculous questions that, had she not been a Clinton, would never have been asked. She decided Olberman didn’t need to be mocked and so didn’t give him the derisive laugh.

    She made an interesting choice with the “cackle” – I can see her strategy, but it’s a dangerous game for a political candidate to mock reporters. I actually thought it was kind of a gutsy thing to do – especially for someone who’s been playing it safe lately.

  • Could we please get back to Hillary’s cleavage? I’m past tired of talking about the way she laughs. Let’s get back to that warm place where we were all boobies, all the time. Mmmm. Yeah. See, isn’t that better?

    Seriously, I doubt (sadly) that yammering right-wing mockery of Clinton is going to prevent her from getting the nomination. I hope I’m wrong, because if she does, you will look back longingly on the days when the Republicans made fun of the way she laughed. She’ll be the target of an attack campaign that’ll make “the cackle” look like a Sunday-school picnic. That’s partly why I hope Obama gets the nomination. That, and the probability that Hillary will make a crappy president.

  • WALLACE: Senator, talk about conservative hit jobs, right-wing conspiracies — why do you and the president have such a hyper-partisan view of politics?

    (LAUGHTER)

    She was doing him a favor when laughing at him. What she should have done is punched that fucking douchbag right in his goddamned mouth.

    Naw, that’s not right either. Our world is too violent already.

    Actually, the best candidate isn’t running: Jon Stewart. The only thing better than laughing at Wallace, would be delivering a one-liner that’d have everyone on the planet laughing at him instead.

  • swan said:
    Wow- the media is middle school.

    Cool. let’s perpetuate it.

    If we keep ramping the the “Who Wants to Be President?” show up like this, my children may see a day when the Sitting President hits the campaign trail a month after inauguration. What nonsense will we quibble over when candidates are pouring millions upon millions of dollars into the media for 3-4 years at a time?

    PRODUCER:
    what have you got for me jill? we need something fresh, groundbreaking. the election’s only two years away!

    REPORTER:
    well, there’s that thing with the governor’s knees. sources at the beach say they’re kinda bony looking.

    PRODUCER:
    no! too partisan. the senator ran billboards in florida with the governor’s bare legs next to bikini models giving him the snub. we can’t afford to look like we’re taking sides. what else?

    REPORTER:
    well, Danny won’t have the video feed on the senator’s cat litter box until thursday. other than that we have the very poor Super Mario Brothers score we can play up.

    PRODUCER:
    i like that. really crosses the borders and touches everyone. make sure we get a shot of the ‘game over’ screen and the one that asks if you want to try again. we can’t afford to be on the wrong side if the governor wins. you know how important the defense contracts are to our sports page.

    REPORTER:
    ok boss i’ll have the IT boys loop something up right away.

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