Rangel rips Rudy’s risque record

Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton booster, went where few have dared to tread — he went after Rudy Giuliani’s scandalous personal life.

In a cover story on Giuliani in this week’s New York Observer, Rangel went after Giuliani in unusually personal ways, expressing confidence that Giuliani’s frontrunning status will fade either because of the former mayor’s liberal positions on social issues or the operatic drama of his personal life.

“Referring to Andrew Giuliani’s reportedly distant relationship with his father since the ugly bust-up of Mr. Giuliani’s marriage with Donna Hanover,” the article says, “Mr. Rangel said it was because ‘sons respect and admire their fathers, but they love their mothers against cheating goddamn husbands.’ … Rangel said he regretted that all the personal problems surfaced so soon in the electoral process. ‘I’m sorry this damned thing turned out so early because, really, just like [embattled former Giuliani aide Bernard] Kerik, it would have bombed his ass out.'”

The Giuliani campaign was not amused, telling ABC News, “Comments like that are not worthy of a response.” Clinton herself wasn’t anxious to weigh in on the subject, either. Asked over the weekend if she had any comment on Rangel’s remarks, Clinton said, “I don’t.” Later, a Clinton campaign spokesperson said, “These kinds of comments have no place in the campaign.”

Perhaps, perhaps not. But Rangel’s comments come almost one month to the day after former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack (D), another co-chair of Clinton’s presidential campaign, broached the subject, telling a New York cable channel that Giuliani’s private life may soon become a political weight for the former mayor. Pressed for details, Vilsack said, “I can’t even get into the number of marriages and the fact that his children — the relationship he has with his children — and what kind of circumstance New York was in before September the 11th and whether or not he could have even been re-elected as mayor prior to September the 11th.”

It’s hard to say if this was coordinated — I kind of doubt it — but it is a reminder that Giuliani has skated by with very little scrutiny of his “character” issues thus far.

It seems to me that the media, at least thus far, has been extraordinarily polite to Giuliani, especially under the circumstances. Reporters will occasionally note Giuliani’s multiple marriages, and/or his “messy” private life, and/or his estranged kids, but very few news outlets have acknowledged the mayor’s adulterous past.

For that matter, it’s an easy story. No one needs to go dumpster diving to learn the details; they’re all out in the open. Every reporter in the country knows about Giuliani’s scandalous personal life, but they’ve apparently all decided that there’s no reason to cover a presidential race by noting a candidate’s shameful private conduct.

To be sure, one can make a reasonable case that this is a positive development. Reporters should leave candidates’ private lives out of the campaign. Personal scandals don’t matter and don’t belong in the media’s coverage.

I just wish I knew how the media managed to come to this conclusion now, while holding the Clintons to an entirely different standard. In 1992, every major news outlet in the country insisted that Bill Clinton had “character” issues after a tabloid ran a story about an affair. This breathless interest in his personal life continued on through his presidency — and beyond.

My point isn’t that two wrongs make a right. I don’t look at this as some kind of revenge — Bill Clinton’s sex life was front-page news for a decade, so it’s time for Giuliani to face the same treatment.

I am curious, though, what’s driving the change. Infidelity involving a Dem was a legitimate area of inquiry, but infidelity involving a Republican (one who has expressed interest in a constitutional amendment to protect the “sanctity” of marriage) is beyond the pale. Republicans who went after Clinton were playing “hardball”; but two Dems who mentioned Giuliani’s troubles are engaged in the “politics of personal destruction.”

Maybe America got burned out on political sex talk. Perhaps reporters have lost interest. Maybe our whole political system has matured to the point in which a thrice-married serial adulterer can seek the families-values party’s nomination, and no one cares.

But I can’t help but find it interesting that this sudden evolution occurred in just such a way that holds Dems to a higher standard.

“but it is a reminder that Giuliani has skated by with very little scrutiny of his “character” issues thus far.”

i’ll go further than that. all of the republican candidates have skated by with very little scrutiny of any of their negatives – their flip-flops, their lies, their exaggerations, and on and on. and why? because the damn media isn’t doing their job at all. but let one democrat say a “t” instead of a “d” and the media jumps all over them. it’s disgusting.

  • Here’s why Hillary Clinton’s sex life will be a story but Rudy’s long lists of divorces and criminal friends aren’t: Because the beltway bobbleheads want their goddam horserace, and this go round the Republicans have some serious handicap issues.

    Anything the Heathers have to do to even it up, they will do. Plus their rich bosses, I’m sure, are sending out the Christmas party cards pretty soon. Wouldn’t want to miss that.

  • Rudy. What a candidate. If he gets the GOP ’08 nod, it’ll be shades of ’64 all over again:

    In your heart, you know he’s right.
    But in your guts, you know he’s nuts.

  • What will be distressing is if the glare of the media spotlight shifts not to Rudy, but to those who dare to raise the disconnect between his desire to be a leading light of the Family Values Party, and how he has conducted his personal life.

    I fear this will not get the “well, what about Giuliani’s personal life – how can he be espousing the sanctity of marriage when he is an admitted adulterer and is twice-divorced?” treatment, but the “is it appropriate for the candidate’s personal life to be campaign fodder, and do those trying to raise it have any room to talk?”

  • Racerx, I think you are exactly right – they’ve decided who they want the candidates to be, and nothing is going to get in the way of selling and packaging it accordingly.

    Can’t tell you how that bothers me, nor why more people have not wised up to it.

  • I tend to agree that personal issues have a limited place – there have been a lot of pretty good leaders of countries over time that have not always been ideal parents, spouses or employers.

    But I find the double-standard disturbing not just because it is a double-standard, but because if anything it is so backwards. There is an arguably legitimate reason to raise the personal issues as to Republicans but not Democrats: Its the Hypocrisy, Stupid.

    But CB, you are far too kind to the press in claiming they covered Bill Clinton’s sex life back in the 90s but apparently have “matured” since. Are you forgetting the 2000 word front-page NYT piece on the state of the Clinton marriage? The WaPo feature on HRC’s cleavage? The reviews of all of the salacious gossip in the spate of Clinton bios lately? Or for that matter the fact that the wholly unsubstantiated Edwards affair rumors got any traction (while Giuliani’s known transgressions get virtually none)?

  • ***Comments like that are not worthy of a response.***

    That, of course, would be that the only viable responses are “it’s true,” or “it’s not true.” The former would sink the Giuliani rowboat immediately—and the latter would put him on par with President Clinton’s “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”

    Both are campaign-killers—and both would be thrown back at the little imp with unfettered zest by his opponents.

    ***These kinds of comments have no place in the campaign.***

    I would beg to differ with this comment. If the opposition seeks to go nuclear on the issue of family values and marital integrity, Clinton has the upper hand in the argument. She kept her spouse—RooDee did not. She retained and salvaged the relationship—RooDee did not. She held to her marital vows—RooDee not only broke the promise; he flaunted the breaking of that promise.

    Clinton made a promise before God, and kept it. RooDee did not.

    Play THAT before the “family values” people. Let THEM embrace a three-peat philanderer over a candidate who stood by a promise to spouse, and to God.

  • As I recall, according to the religious right, a man that can’t keep his vow as a husband can’t be trusted to keep his vow as a president. Did something change while I wasn’t paying attention?

  • A candidate’s personal life is irrelevant to his or her political life, unless he or she is taking a “do as I say, not as I do” approach, or worse, actively working to demonize the very behavior he or she engages in.

    No one is perfect, but I will be damned if I’m going to accept moral guidance from someone who doesn’t feel obliged to follow his or her own advice.

    To me, this is one of the best reasons I can think of for keeping the government out of people’s personal lives.

  • ***Anne***of course we see it. The press is controlled by a handful of corporations, all operated with a republican agenda, leaving us to shake our heads and look for opportunities to change it, for which there are few. Thank god for the internet huh?

    This is the party of hypocrisy who feign outrage at others for doing what they have always done, the main difference is there are a number of democrats who are siding with republicans in their hypocrisy lending them credibility. Just look at Move on vs Rush phony soldiers, or vs McConnell on the Graeme family or vs Stark’s comments. We know it but there are 30% of the public the press holds up as a majority to justify their hypocrisy.

    The press already has Clinton as the democratic nominee and are still debating if the republican will be Guiliani or Romney but unless the fix is already in this is not the reality yet…we still have a voice.

    The corruption in congress is blatantly obvious with this telecom amnesty issue because we know that Rockefeller and Cheney agreed to this long ago and the telecom donations to Rockefeller have increased significantly over the past year, even Harry Reid is getting a big contribution from these companies. The telecoms knew they were breaking the law but did so to get lucrative government contracts…it had little to do with terrorism.

    The worst part is that Rockefeller must know that we know about his complicity in this telecom bribery and corruption, and feels that we won’t do anything or can’t do anything about it. That we will forget.

    The press mentions Guiliani and Clinton at ten times the rate of the other candidates…never mentioning Kucinich and seldom mentioning Edwards. Name recognition is what they believe wins primaries. We must continue to push for campaign revolution for as long as it takes to take the business out of the corporate media and special interest groups and into the public’s hands to get fair elections.

    The example of how debased the process has become is Guiliani praising Florida for stopping a recount that would have made Gore the rightful president. According to Guiliani we don’t want or care about fair and honest elections…only about winning…even if that means cheating and corruption. He thanked Florida publicly for stopping the recount because it would have made Gore president and the republicans cheered. That’s republican integrity. It’s why they deserve the title of “the Party of Hypocrisy”, because if dems would have done that to keep Bush from being president…well, you can imagine.

  • Rangel is what you get when a pol really doesn’t give a fuck. Why the hand wringing? Think of how much fun life would be if there were more Democrats like him.

  • Democrats SHOULD be held to a higher standard… by Democrats and the Media alike. We should be the party of compassion and high moral standards.

    Let the other guys be the party of greed, judgementalism, and sanctimony.

  • Save the powder. This will be similar to 1860 when a second-tier candidate with little prospect for winning manages to manipulate his way through 4 tough, top candidates, each of whom had legitimate potential to win the GOP nomination. In that election, Abe Lincoln was the number two vote for many of the supporters of the top candidates who had been blazing away at each other during the 1860 convention.

    So too do we find that Mike Huckabee is likely navigating the treacherous waters that consume the energy of the Rudy McRomney campaigns and their watchers. My bet is that Huckabee (an Arkansas gov. like Bill Clinton) will make it to the top ranks and be the GOP nominee, especially when the conservatives rally around his candidacy. The Dems better get cracking on op-research on Huckabee instead of Rudy or Romney.

  • It’s probably a matter of how shameless the each party is willing to be. The Republicans are willing to plumb the depths of anything, whether legitimate or absurd, to get what they want; the Democrats usually aren’t. When each side pushes a story, this is the difference in what makes it count.

    I’m not really too concerned with Giuliani’s personal life. I’m much more interesting in making his professional life well known, like the mobbed up Bernie Kerik, the racist, drug-dealing, and/or Confederate flag-supporting campaign officials from other states or the fact that he chose to remain ignorant of a hugely important topic, Iraq, and instead give paid speeches. Of course, once one is investigated, the other is likely to be exposed.

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