Far-right group targets porn on military bases

It’s been a while since we’ve last heard from the American Family Association’s the Rev. Donald E. Wildmon. Every once in a while, Wildmon and the AFA will draw headlines for attacking a group or company for being insufficiently “pro-family,” though most of their complaints come across as bizarre rants from extremists.

The targets from recent years include, but are by no means limited to, Wal-Mart (for selling Brokeback Mountain DVDs), Target (for not having Salvation Army bell-ringers during the Christmas season), Ford Motor Company (for purchasing ads in gay-oriented publications), and the movie “Shark Tale” (which the AFA believed was intended to “brainwash children” into accepting gay rights).

Now, Wildmon and the AFA have a new concern: U.S. troops’ access to adult materials.

Ten years after Congress banned sales of sexually explicit material on military bases, the Pentagon is under fire for continuing to sell adult fare, such as Penthouse and Playmates In Bed, that it doesn’t consider explicit enough to pull from its stores.

Dozens of religious and anti-pornography groups have complained to Congress and Defense Secretary Robert Gates that a Pentagon board set up to review magazines and films is allowing sales of material that Congress intended to ban.

“They’re saying ‘we’re not selling stuff that’s sexually explicit’ … and we say it’s pornography,” says Donald Wildmon, head of the American Family Association, a Christian anti-pornography group. A letter-writing campaign launched Friday by opponents of the policy aims to convince Congress to “get the Pentagon to obey the law,” he adds.

Let me get this straight. U.S. troops are fighting two wars, neither of which are going well, and the American Family Association’s biggest concern is what kind of magazines the troops can purchase on base? Here’s a radical idea: maybe those who wear the uniform and put their lives on the line for their country should be able to read whatever they want.

I find it rather amazing this is even a controversy.

Defense officials “don’t want to take porn away from soldiers,” says Patrick Trueman, a former federal prosecutor who now works with the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal group. “They say, ‘well, 40% of this magazine is sexually explicit pictures, but 60% is writing or advertising, so the totality is not sexually explicit.’ That’s ridiculous.”

Actually, what’s ridiculous is that Congress wasted its time on this a decade ago, and the AFA is wasting its time on this now.

As the ACLU’s Nadine Strossen put it. “We’re asking these people to risk their lives to defend our Constitution’s principles … and they’re being denied their own First Amendment rights to choose what they read.”

Look, when a guy’s manning a rocket launcher, you WANT him to masturbate.

  • Extremist theocrats hate sex, or the idea that anyone is actually having a good time somewhere, or even thinking about how wonderful it would be to have a good time someday…..anywhere.

    In an effort to make themselves even marginally relevant, Mr. Wildmon (I refuse to call any of those scumbags ‘Reverend’) has succeeded in only making himself look more pathetic and useless than before. Nice work, Mr. W., now unclench your sphincter and let the real world get on with things.

  • Regardless of your personal opinion on porn (I’m mostly indifferent), the problem always becomes what is acceptable? Who gets to decide? Afterall, one person’s eroticism is another’s hard core pornography. As an example, a few years ago I became responsible for my brother when he was released from prison on sexual assault charges (long, drama filled story). Anyway, one of the conditions of his release was that no ‘pornigraphic material’ could be kept anywhere in the household. I was given a pretty comprehensive list as to just what was considered pornigraphic. I was a little shocked to learn that the Victoria’s Secret catalog was indeed considered porn. We were luck to have an understanding probation officer, who took into account the fact that the freaking catalog kept showing up in the mail addressed to ‘current occupant’.

    I do wonder exactly what the definition of ‘pornography’ the AFA is using. Are nude back shots ok? How about bare nipples? Would these be ok as long as the genitals are covered? How about technically covered women in eroticised poses? Are nude men ok? And what about sexually explicit writing, as long as there are no pictures?

    Also, how to the military members feel about this? Would it just be illegal to purchase porn on a military base, or would it be illgeal for them to possess as well?

  • But go ahead and violate God’s Sixth Commandment, America’s Army, that’s just fine by us.

    I’m glad these puritanical holy rollers didn’t get a glimpse of what I had in my room in the barracks.
    Some of the stuff I had on my walls would have melted their eyes right out of their sockets.

  • The Talevan on soldiers torturing prisoners: Zzzzzzz!

    The Talevan on soldiers looking at porn: OMG! Code Blue, Code Blue, We’ve got a Stage 3 TnA Alert in Sector 52! Sound the alarm!

    Next they’ll ask the Pentagon to make big frilly covers to conceal those phallic tank turrets and gun muzzles.

  • I’m fairly certain that Soldiers can possess whatever porn they want on post. At least in America. Anything showing a nipple or “worse” is still verboten in the Middle East. I’m pretty sure AFA is just trying to stop AAFES from being the ones that sell us the magazines. For now anyway.

  • This is ridiculous. I wonder what our society would be like if these nut jobs were to actually get everything they wanted…
    What do they want?

  • Does anyone know the percentage of males under 22 in the military? Hmmmm horny men (though some hardly more than boys in chronological years if not in experience) in the military who wanted look at pictures of naked women, who knew????

  • So the religious right has no problem with a whole organization that maliciously disregards the Commandment that reads though shalt not kill, but is jonesing about masturbating which last time I checked wasn’t a big enough deal to make the top ten list of things not to do. Considering members of the armed forces are stationed in theaters of conflict where they may not live to see the next day because of the character of their service, I have no problem with them getting release from looking at Miss November, especially if that means they won’t eye the servicewomen around them with bad intent because of it.

  • Clearly, they don’t support the troops.

    I just hope no-one tells these guys that soldiers also sometimes use curse words.

    I wonder if this would be a good issue for the Democrats? Vote Democrat and we promise a constant supply of pornography to our brave men and women overseas.

    What are the odds, by the way, that the people who object to soldiers looking at a picture of the naked body do not object so much to soldiers forcibly stripping Iraqi prisoners naked, sexually assaulting them and recording it on camera say, in a former prison of Saddam Hussein’s, regarding it as mere fraternity pranks? I’m taking bets…

  • Actually, I thought of a great way to end the Iraq War!

    Someone tell these fundamentalists that US soldiers in Iraq are being exposed to scenes of graphic violence, nudity and foul language which is damaging to their moral fibre.

    Their innocence can only be preserved by a full and immediate withdrawal. Bring them home! – I can see Pat Robertson wearing the T-shirt.

  • So we send our kids over there to see little kids get killed, but letting them see a naked woman (who voluntarily posed for the picture) is somehow evil.

    I wonder how many soldiers suffer from “post porn viewing syndrome”?

  • “maybe those who wear the uniform and put their lives on the line for their country should be able to read whatever they want.”

    well, here’s an even more radical idea. i think any adult in this country should be able to read whatever they want.

  • And do these idiots think they’re the purest of the pure with regards to porn? Their fundy muslim counterparts could teach them a thing or two, after all, they’re the ones who think seeing a wonan’s ankle is scandalous.

    Would our fundies like to change the way we let our women walk around with actual cleavage showing? Shouldn’t they be pushing for new laws to make our women cover up? After all, if men see women’s cleavage, some of them might do bad things.

    I’m guessing a lot of them think burkas are the way to go.

    Idiots.

  • Sort of on topic of military bases, I just saw In the Valley of Elah, with Tommy Lee Jones, as the father of a soldier who’s murdered when he returns from Iraq. Superb movie, very good anti-war message which doesn’t sweep under the carpet the horrors these young soldiers endure in Iraq.

  • Let’s see now:

    Murder is illegal, but showing it is fine.
    Sex is fine, but showing it is illegal.

    Makes perfect sense.

    A guy can walk into a bar, buy a woman drinks all night, take her home and bang the daylights out of her, but if he gives her money to buy her own drinks, they both get hauled off to the slammer.

    Makes perfect sense.

    You can kill all the civilians you want, just so long as you call what you’re doing “war” (you don’t need Congressional authority anymore). Then it’s callled collateral damage.

    Makes perfect sense.

    I could go on, but you get the point. There’s something wrong with us humans.

  • The Republican Right Wing Ten Commandments:

    1. You shall not worship any other god
    (God being the almighty dollar)

    2.You shall not make a graven image.
    (Instead, hire a private firm to do this for you, that way you have plausible deniability)

    3.You shall not take the name of God in vain.
    (Our God. All others don’t matter)

    4.You shall not break the Sabbath.
    (10 cent a day laborers don’t count)

    5.You shall not dishonor your parents.
    (Unless they happen to be liberals, progressives, democrats, black, or brown people)

    6.You shall not murder.
    (But you are allowed to invade, occupy, kill and destroy if you are spreading freedom)

    7.You shall not commit adultery
    (Unless you’re toe-tapping with a wide stance in a public restroom)

    8. You shall not steal.
    (This is what all those lawyers and stock brokers do for you)

    9. You shall not commit perjury.
    (This is why you never testify under oath)

    10. You shall not covet.
    (If you want something, just take it, that way you aren’t coveting)

  • WHAT? our soldiers like to look at pictures of naked ladies!?!?

    Next you’ll be telling us that they occasionally have sexual intercourse with people they’re not married to!

  • As I understand it, there is pretty little entertainment on those far-flung Iraq bases.

    No beer, no alcohol.

  • The Rev. Wildmon needs to look into his own backyard…those without sin, cast the first stone and all that. These people have too much free time and I think that those in the AFA need full disclosure of their own magazine subscription habits. Usually it’s the finger-pointers who are hiding the moldiest of skeletons.

  • Geez, we can let a guy watch his buddy get his head blown off, but tits are off limits…..the find reels.

  • What do they want?

    Based on recent events we know their wants are simple:

    Male prostitutes.
    Meth.
    Really big bathroom stalls (with cots).
    Wet suits.
    XXL corsets and stockings.

    Oh wait, did you mean what they really want or what they say they want?

  • They would probably have a meltdown if they knew our US Navy used to give us a little pamphlets on the ports we were visiting. It was information so Navy personnel would know where to go, what to do, local customs, and maps.

    The points of interest section always contained directions to the champagne bars or whatever they were called in that particular port. And we were like ants coming and going to everyone of them, no matter your rank, from Puerto Rico to Bahrain to Israel to Dubai.

    Oh ya, and the porn we bought in Italy, makes Hustler look like the ‘My Pet Goat’.

    Being on a ship with 3000 men for months leads one to want female attention desperately. I can only imagine how rough it must be in Iraq.

    For them not to sell porn in a country where it is probably nearly impossible to get is cruel and pretty fucken petty especially when it’s legal in the country they are fighting for.

  • Label me naive, but do pictures of naked women (or men, for that matter) even fall under the definition of “pornography?” I thought the term involved depictions of sex acts.

  • I am not supporting the dissemination of pornography, but maybe Rev. Wildmon would be more comfortable if women were wearing burkas like other religious extremists require in their societies. Does Rev. Wildmon ‘hang out’ with Senator Larry Craig by any chance?

  • Whateve is legal to sell in the Unitd States shold be for sale to our soldiers. Without exception. If those whose goal in life is to control evey aspect of American thought and actin are upset by that, too bad.

    Liberals will be upset if bondage magazines appear. Too bad.

    Conservatives will be upset by anything that is not approved by James Dobson. Too bad, again.

    The “Liberal” ACLU will back this, which means that knee-jerk reactions from Conservatives will mean they will side with the thought-control types.

  • I believe it is actually quite hypocritical for the AFA to be pursuing this matter. Reason being that in 2003, the AFA was contacted by an attorney in an effort to gain AFA’s support against Movie Gallery for selling REAL hardcore, illegal porn (children, beastiality, rapes, etc) in over a hundred of their stores. AFA acted all supportive with it… at least until they received a “thoughtful” donations from Movie Gallery, Larry Flynt and UPS. Then they forgot about it.
    I’m sure that AFA will forget all about this in the near future, too, when Larry Flynt cuts them another check.
    By the way, if you’re interested in seeing some of the EVIDENCE of the Government’s determined efforts to protect these despicable people who sell/purchase the child porn at Movie Gallery, check out illegalAdvantage.com
    This is not the first time the government has selectively chosen to permit certain stores/businesses to sell merchandise which they (the gov.) themselves have deemed as ILLEGAL.
    *sigh*… I hate hypocrites.

  • No matter what your views on pornography are, it is rational to think that the men and women in the military should be able to view the same things that the men and women not in the military are looking at. If people over the age of 18 can legally buy and view porn in the U.S., then those people in the military should be able to do the same. Who’s to say what people can and cannot read? Isn’t that in complete opposition to our First Amendment right?
    Also, I wonder what the Rev. Donald E. Wildmon and the AFA are actually worried about. Do they not want people to view porn? Or is it that they do not want people to view gay porn? If they are so worried about pornography, why are they choosing to focus on the rules in the military, rather than try to change the law in the U.S. in general?
    Overall, if the people in this country are allowed to see something, then those men and women fighting for our country should be allowed the same right.

  • I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100% regarding right group targets porn on military bases – The Carpetbagger Report, but it’s just my opinion, which could be wrong 🙂

  • WHY is an organization that purportedly seeks to promote Christianity concerning themselves with how retailers promote their pursuit of accumulating more material possessions?

    People are homeless, hungry, sick and without access to medical care and the AFA is worried that Kohl’s isn’t using the word “Christmas” to make money?? This season is SUPPOSED to be about celebrating the birth of the Savior and all the AFA seems to care about is forcing the corruption of the meaning of Christ’s birth.

    Jesus COMMANDED that we take care of the less fortunate not use the occasion of his birth to sell material goods.

    I believe the AFA has no interest in the true ideals of Christianity AT ALL. They never send out materials urging charity, love or caring for the sick.

    In my opinion, they are nothing more than false prophets contributing to the corruption of God’s word.

  • Far right? You’ve got to be kidding. I’m a military wife and we don’t want porn on our bases. Soldiers scummy enough to want it should suffer the humilitation of buying it off post. Let the rest of the world see that they aren’t man enough to get it from a real woman but have to get it from a picture. Pathetic.

  • With all due respect Amy Proctor, fuck you and the puritans you rode in on. All men look at porn, even your husband, although I’d be willing to bet you’ve got him so pussywhipped that he doesn’t keep it around the house, probably just the shop at work. The one who’s really pathetic here, is the woman who feels it’s necessary to castigate young men as scummy, who want to look at naked women.
    Amy, why do you hate the military? After all, there are two kinds of men in the military, those who masturbate, and those who lie about it. We all get it from a picture because there’s no realistic way to get it as often as we’d like to. You’re deluding yourself if you think otherwise, I say that as someone who served six years in the Marine Corps, half of that time on aircraft carriers, with no access to women for months at a time. Grow up woman, time to face reality!

  • I find it unreal that these people can believe that it is ok for these troops to see maimed bodies but they can’t see nude women. As a woman and the mother of a Marine and also being rather modest I don’t approve of what these women do. However I am enough of a realist to know that it is ridiculous for them not to be able to see these magazines. What ever helps these kids works for me.

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