As race heats up, Obama takes the lead in Iowa

All the usual caveats apply — it’s just one poll, there are still six weeks until the caucuses, anything can happen, the margin of error is important, and Iowa is a notoriously difficult place to conduct reliable polls, in part because it’s hard to know exactly who is going to caucus.

But having said that, there haven’t been too many polls this year showing anyone but Hillary Clinton leading in a key Democratic contest. It’s why the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll has raised quite a few eyebrows.

The top three Democratic presidential contenders remain locked in a close battle in Iowa, with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) seeing her advantages diminish on key issues, including the questions of experience and which candidate is best prepared to handle the war in Iraq, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) draws support from 30 percent of likely Democratic caucus-goers in Iowa, compared with 26 percent for Clinton and 22 percent for former senator John Edwards (N.C.). New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson received 11 percent.

It’s the first poll from any news outlet to show Obama reaching the 30% threshold since the race began.

The key to understanding the trend in Iowa seems to be the split between voters who value experience and those who value change. On the prior, Clinton is far and away the leading candidate. Unfortunately for the New York senator, right now more Iowans are looking for the latter — 55% of poll participants listed a “new direction and new ideas” as their top priority, whereas 33% favored “strength and experience.” The gap between the two keeps getting bigger.

And when it comes to which candidate is the best agent of change, it’s not even close — Obama 43%, Edwards 25%, Clinton 17%.

Just as importantly, it appears recent criticism of Clinton from Edwards and Obama is having an effect.

[Clinton] appears more vulnerable on questions of character. Thirty-one percent found Obama to be the most honest and trustworthy, about double the percentage who said the same of Clinton. While about three-quarters credited both Obama and Edwards with speaking their mind on issues, only 50 percent said Clinton is willing enough to say what she really thinks. Forty-five percent said she is not sufficiently candid.

There’s been some talk for weeks that Obama would be the biggest beneficiary of Edwards’ attacks on Clinton — Edwards would weaken Clinton’s support, undermine his own standing by going negative, and Obama would be there to pick up the pieces. At least for now, that seems to be playing out.

As for the issues, Iraq and healthcare dominate.

Iraq and health care dominate as the campaign’s top issues. A third of likely voters described the war as the biggest issue in their choice for the nominee, while 26 percent said it is health care. Ten percent highlighted the economy and jobs, and all other issues were in the single digits.

The race at the local level only somewhat resembles the national campaign. While Clinton held a 51-point lead on the question of which Democrat would best handle the issue of health care in a national Post-ABC poll in late September, she now has a narrow nine-point advantage on that question in Iowa.

And Clinton does not have a meaningful edge on the five other issues in this poll. She runs about even with Obama as the candidate most trusted to handle the economy, Social Security and the situation with Iran. On dealing with the war in Iraq, Clinton’s 12-point lead from July has evaporated. In the new poll, 26 percent most trust Obama on Iraq and 23 percent choose Clinton, with 15 percent each for Edwards and Richardson.

Clinton’s saving grace may be “electability,” which, ironically, was supposed to be a hindrance for her. In the Post/ABC poll, about four in 10 Iowans consider her the Dems’ most electable general-election candidate, a quarter said Obama, and slightly fewer said Edwards.

Stay tuned.

With respect, the margin of error for this poll is 4%. So actual support for Obama is likely to be somewhere between 26% and 34%, while support for Clinton is likely between 22% and 30%. Since these intervals overlap, it would be incorrect to say Obama is four points ahead. They’re in a “statistical tie,” among Iowa voters. That’s been the case in all the recent polls I’ve seen.

This is basic inferential statistics; unfortunately most of our press corp can’t quite do the math. So this WP story is actually quite right not to make a big deal out of this difference. They could have made their reasoning more clear, however.

  • At this stage, I’m looking to see the contenders be challenged, and a tightening race is going to do exactly that. I want the person who ends up with the nomination to have been challenged, tested and confronted with as close to the worst that can be flung at him or her. While Hillary is not, at this stage, my preferred candidate, if it turns out that she is the nominee, I’ll feel better about her chances if getting the nomination was not a cakewalk – because one thing I know for sure, and that is that whoever the Republican nominee is, he – and the party and the 527’s – are going to hit and hit hard because they’re desperate to win.

    I would love to see an Edwards/Obama ticket – they have to have figured out that together they have the ability to beat Hillary, and win in 2008, but as long as it looks like Obama can beat Hillary – at least in Iowa – that’s not an option.

    All that being said, my first reaction to the poll news was that Hillary is going to go into overdrive – which, in terms of strategy, is not such a bad thing to see – and it will be interesting to see if this is a trend, or if the numbers do a u-turn.

  • Personally—even though I’d prefer Obama over Clinton—I think the greater “sub-issue” pointed out in the poll can be summed up in five little words:

    “Vulnerable on questions of character.”

    Herein lies the key to smashing through anything—and everything—the GOP and their shrill little minions can dish out. They cannot be beaten back on policy-substance, or natinal/global issues, or even the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, because they’ll always play the fearmongering gambit.

    But—and I think this is the really important part of it all—none of the “gop-goons” can blame their flippant character issues, with specificity on ethics, morals, and flip-flops (let’s just call them bald-faced lies right now, and be done with all the bantering around the bush) on 9/11.

    Ghouliani has lied his fool head off for months now, and he’s demonstrated a penchant for surrounding himself with moronic gangsters and thugs. Hucksterbee has spent almost as much time pandering to Ghouliani as he has campaigning. RampStrike has flipped more than a houseful of pancakes. UnAware Fred boasts of his conservative superiority by just not bothering to show up for the job. Mittens’ past will come back to haunt him—repeatedly. And that “other fellow”—the one pretending to be a viable candidate, the one with all the cash donations coming from Patriot-Movement remnants and NeoConfederate survivalists—has more baggage stuffed under the bed than his swooning little “fair-weather-ish, quasi-Progressive groupies” care to admit.

    If Obama can play this card—the character card—he holds in his hands a solid chance to take the nomination—and the WH….

  • Clinton’s saving grace may be “electability,” which, ironically, was supposed to be a hindrance for her.

    I was always writing, over and over again, that this was a myth.

  • Anne makes a spectacular point:

    At this stage, I’m looking to see the contenders be challenged, and a tightening race is going to do exactly that. I want the person who ends up with the nomination to have been challenged, tested and confronted with as close to the worst that can be flung at him or her.

    Atrios had a deep thought yesterday along the lines of “The Dems are campaigning against each other, while the Republicant’s are running against the Dems.” This can be both good and bad.

    The good is the point Anne made — the GOP is notorious for dirty tricks, and being tested and battle-worn before the general campaign should leave the GOP without any decent ammo. I do like that quite a bit.

    But the bad is that while the Dems are focused on tearing each other a new one, the GOP candidates are appealing to their base constituencies and mobilizing for a fight against us godless heathen surrender monkeys (or whatever the insult du jour is). Thankfully, each Rep candidate is severely flawed in one way or another, so I’m not sure what impact it’ll have in the end.

    At this point, I’m starting to wonder of Edwards is actually working with Obama — without actually saying so — because he realizes a united front is the only way someone not named Hillary will get the nod. Edwards’ numbers are okay, but not really good enough, and he’s got to know that the taint from the failed ’04 bid still lingers (and is perhaps why he’s not doing better).

    So they both go on the attack (with Edwards shooting the direct and sometimes snarky shots at Clinton, Obama a little more subtly) while realizing that Obama has the best chance to come out the winner.

    If I can see that, there’s no way the Edwards’ camp doesn’t realize that.

    Of course, in the end, I think it’s Richardson who has the most chance to be in the Executive Branch next year — if Hillary gets the nom, he’ll be the VP candidate due to his ability to bring in Latino voters and his foreign policy experience. If Obama gets it, he’ll probably be Sec. o’ State (perhaps with Edwards taking another go at VP). Regardless, Richardson will be a major player, even if he doesn’t get the big job.

    Okay … sorry for the wandering thesis. 🙂

  • Here’s my opinion (and it may be unpopular): Because of latent racism in American society, Obama offers the Republicans a better chance to hang on to the White House than to face a “polarizing” Hillary Clinton. Obama may be a breath of fresh air, but the idealism that Obama’s campaign is based on won’t get him elected. Rudy Giuliani would salivate at the opportunity to take down the Democrat’s “new age hero.” I’m not pro-Clinton; I’m pro-electability, and that makes me anti-Obama. At this point, a vote for Obama is a vote for the Republicans; I can’t take another four years.

    Let it also be said that New Hampshire and especially Iowa are not a fair representation of the American electorate. And yes, after the experience of 2000 and 2004 elections, I have very little faith in my fellow Americans.

    (I will now sit back and wait for the brigade of flame-throwers that are coming over the ridge.)

  • Polls in Iowa are always iffy, but it’s the internals of the poll that seem most fascinating to me. What it seems to say is that Iowans just don’t trust Hillary in terms of her character or her electability. The problem has been that all the anti-Hillary votes have been split among her opponents. Given the unusual way the caucuses are conducted (where candidate’s supporters have to switch if their guy or gal doesn’t reach a certain threshold), to me it seems almost certain that Hillary will not win Iowa. Whether it’s Obama or not, remains a question. Edwards is strong enough unless he really starts fading that he’ll stay in the later rounds, but the real questions is where will the supporters of Biden, Dodd, Kucinich and Richardson go if their man doesn’t meet the threshold. Obama as of now seems to be a much stronger second choice with caucusgoers than Hillary. Last time, Edwards got to finish second when Kucinich released his supporters to him. Will he back Edwards again or someone else?

  • I think Obama is as pro-war as Hillary, and it’s likely to prevent either one of them from gaining much advantage over the other. I’m not sure that the candidates themselves can push each other toward positions that reflect American voter concerns since the Democrats frontrunners have moved so sharply to the right. If there’s ever been a time in American history when we’ve badly needed a “leftist” government, I don’t know when that’s been.

    But “leftist” in this case is really a misnomer. On domestic issues it applies somewhat, though the big task is to restore the programs that have worked for the benefit of Americans. But, much more important, we desperately need the next administration and Congress to restore the Constitutional structure and balance of government power so that there are three co-equally powerful branches of government, not one. The war in Iraq is directly related to Constitutionality, of course. It was, simply, an illegal invasion under international and US law. An attack on Iran, which neither Clinton nor Obama seem averse to, would be just as illegal.

    No matter how the candidates may try to get to the front of the pack based forcing their opponents to be specific about OTHER values, it won’t help American voters by giving them a real choice about what’s in our best interests.

  • It is way to early for predictions in Iowa to mean much as so many voters don’t make up their mind until the last minute, but Iowa’s caucus rules give Obama an edge if it remains a tight race with Clinton. Assuming he is sufficiently organized, Obama might pick up a number of votes from supporters of candidates who don’t meet the 15% viability threshold as supporters of such candidates are likely to choose Obama over Clinton.

  • I’ve always thought people were making a mistake by reading too much into these early poll numbers. In the last presidential election, everything stayed pretty static until December, when Dean jumped slightly ahead, while Kerry lagged until his big win in Iowa. Most people just aren’t interested in this stuff and don’t make up their minds until they need to, and that includes people who vote in primaries. It’s only the true political junkies who really focus on this stuff, but in November 2003, the race was entirely unpredictable. At this point in 2003, Gallup had Kerry in fifth place, behind Lieberman and Gephardt. And if a mid-November poll had determined the nominee, Not Sure could be our current president (not a bad choice, all things considered).

    Of course, this year’s poll numbers favor Hillary more than any candidate was favored in the last election, but still, I think people are just going with familiarity and haven’t necessarily made up their minds. I’ll wait until December before seeing how things shake-out, and Iowa might realign everything like it did last time.

    For anyone interested, ere’s a link to the 2004 polling data:
    http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm

  • Obama didn’t “take the lead”. He led in the last ABC/WP poll in July. Do not mix all polls in the same container.

  • Bud # 1 – those are the confidence intervals, yes, but it is exceedingly unlikely that Hillary is ahead. The probability is quite high that Obama is actually leading, given those results.

  • slip kid, I agree with you about Obama and latent – or not so latent – racism. But, I wonder if voters who won’t vote for Obama (because he’s black) or Clinton (because she’s a woman, or they just don’t like her) would vote for ANY Democratic candidate?

  • Triangulain’ Tilly’s Inevitable Machine of Inevitability has a wheel coming off the axle?? Oh joy! Oh joy!

    She can have a great career in the Senate, just like Ted Kennedy, and the country will be better for not having Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton for 20 years – that is not the way constitutional republics survive.

  • Hark,

    I didn’t say either was ahead, I said in this poll it’s too close to call. Future polls will answer the question of who’s moving up and down. This one does not.

    Bud

  • I saw a couple of interesting polls over at MyDD within the last week. Since I know absolutely nothing about Iowans, I took particular notice. One showed the 2nd choice candidates and Edwards and Obama led those, Hillary was a far distant listing. And the 2nd poll was of people who had participated in the caucases before and Edwards was a clear hands down winner.

    I really don’t know what those mean, but they seemed pertinent to people who actually knew something about Iowa politics. So, I’m throwing it out here.

    And please note: my bias tends towards Edwards.

  • Here’s my opinion (and it may be unpopular): Because of latent racism in American society, Obama offers the Republicans a better chance to hang on to the White House than to face a “polarizing” Hillary Clinton. -sknm

    I agree there is a dangerous amount of racism (overt and latent) in America, but I would wager a lot of those people are also sexist (even self-loathing, like Coulter). I doubt that someone who holds the belief that Obama is flawed because of his race would accept a women as President either.

  • When will these pollsters and opinion seekers get it in their heads?..The unique differnce in this election different from all others is ELECTABILITY IS NOT AN ISSUE IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION…PERIOD.

    After the horrors of Bush and with the GOP hopefuls all being such jokes and Bushites, whomever wins the democratic primary will be the next president. All of the democratic presidential candidates are electable…all of them.
    None of the republican candidates are electable…none of them.

    Iowa doesn’t determine anything. Obama ahead in Iowa…but how does he stand in Missouri or Arkansas or Kentucky etc. A bunch of people rush to Iowa to vote for their candidate and that supposed to mean something? I guess they have a one in five chance of picking the right candidate as first choice.
    Like most everyone I know and most everyone they know none of us have ever been included in a candidate poll or an issue poll for that matter so excuse us if we don’t believe any of this as being anything but a media ploy to get the highest paying names out there over and over again.

    How about “the issues in Iowa”…”A single payer not for profit national healthcare plan (represented by Kucinich) is at 55% while a health care plan sponsored by government funding and mandatory (represented by Clinton) is at 35% and a plan…etc. I would much rather leave the candidates out and poll the issues they represent so we can really see what kind of an administration we are supporting. This way the candidates can always change their stance on the issues to be more in line with what the voting public wants.
    This name recognition over the issues needs to stop if we are to ever get what we want.

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