Majority wants to keep pulpit and politics separate

Every election cycle, political candidates rush from house of worship to house of worship, hoping to curry favor with the faithful while demonstrating their religious convictions. Also every election cycle, religious leaders go to great lengths to make clear to parishioners who they should vote for.

I’ve heard plenty of arguments that this is the way most Americans want. On the one hand, people expect to see candidates in churches and temples. On the other, they like to receive guidance from spiritual leaders about the best candidates.

All of this, it turns out, is completely wrong.

Americans have a message for political candidates considering campaigning in their churches over the next year — butt out.

A new Fox 5-The Washington Times-Rasmussen Reports poll found less than one in four of those surveyed said it’s appropriate to campaign at their religious services, and a whopping 62 percent said it’s not right.

Another 70 percent said they don’t want their priest, minister, rabbi or Imam to “suggest” who to vote for, either.

“There are lines that people feel you shouldn’t cross. Different people might draw them at different places, but they clearly exist,” said Scott Rasmussen, who conducted the survey. He said that doesn’t mean voters don’t want candidates to show up and attend their services, but they also “don’t want to see a sermon or something presented as a sermon by a presidential candidate.”

This seems to have held up for several years. In 2004, a poll released by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that 65% of Americans oppose church endorsement of political candidates, 69% think it improper for political parties to ask congregations for their membership lists and 64% oppose the idea of Catholic bishops denying communion to politicians who fail to support church teachings on abortion and related issues.

Moreover, in 2002, 75% of Americans said churches should not come out in favor of one candidate over another. In 2001, the Pew Research Center found that 65% of Americans said they did not “think it is ever right for clergy to discuss political candidates or issues from the pulpit.”

This, however, had to be the most amusing part of the poll:

On the Republican side there also has been a contest to win the backing of religious conservative leaders, including former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani’s endorsement by televangelist Pat Robertson.

But the poll said that could hurt more than help — 29 percent said Mr. Robertson’s endorsement made them less likely to support Mr. Giuliani, while only 6 percent said they now are more likely to support him. That was consistent across all such demographic categories as age, party affiliation and income.

Apparently, appearing alongside a lunatic televangelist doesn’t carry quite the same electoral punch as the Giuliani campaign had hoped.

“Regular Americans” may frequently be clueless and easily led, but they ain’t entirely stupid. This separation of church and state is in our genetic code and just because the religious right has been the small but very squeaky wheel that got the grease and garnered a lot of attention, doesn’t mean that most Americans ever liked this trend.

  • On the other hand, don’t most Americans, or at a least a sizable minority, want prayers in school, Ten Commandments’ monuments everywhere, In God We Trusts and Under Gods as government slogans, and alternatives to evolution taught in schools? As to the last, polls consistently show that half the people don’t “believe” in evolution – presumably, then, they’d want something else taught, which could only be ID/creationism or some other supernatural hypothesis.

    So while this poll is encouraging, we’ve still got a lot of separation-of-church/state opposition in this country.

  • Ok, I found it
    These pricks have been doing this shit to wounded soldiers for years. It just never gets any attention from Tweety & the Traditional Media.
    http://www.mytown.ca/ev.php?URL_ID=118890&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201

    …”My overwhelming feeling about a lot of them was intense loneliness, especially those that joined because they had no other options. They left these towns because they had no future. And they’re back where they started, but now they don’t have their health, and they have horrible memories. Three weeks ago I got a message from [Tyson Johnson’s] mother that said, “The hurricane destroyed our house, and Tyson’s coughing blood, and we don’t know what to do.” Insult upon injury, he got a bonus for joining, and they wanted to take the signing bonus back because he didn’t fulfill his contract because he was wounded … I feel a tremendous anger about the hypocrisy of the “Support Our Troops” slogan. If you really want to support our troops, then in your hometown, find out who these soldiers are and make sure they’re being cared for. [Editor’s note: The Army has since abandoned its efforts to collect Tyson Johnson’s signing bonus.]…”

    Although they gave up on collecting from Johnson, it’s because he was in a BOOK !!!
    How many military amputees are subjects of a book??? If you are not subject of a book, they still sic the collectors.

    arghh

  • Wonders I if in reality it’s more a case of “I don’t want YOUR church telling you who to vote for”.

    But then, I certainly wouldn’t listen to the Conference of American Catholic Bishops telling me how to vote. They are obviously too distracted trying to shuffle child-abusing priests around to have time to do it right.

    Or to sum up, any Church that wants the State to do the job of providing moral authority and comdemnation of sinfulness has clearly lost their own moral authority and reek of sinfulness.

  • Let’s be clear — this isn’t about the First Amendment or a separation of church and state. Churches and preachers can say what they want, as they, too, are covered by the First Amendment.

    This is an issue of money. Houses of worship must think that if their members can’t write off their donations from their income tax, they wouldn’t give. Wow! I guess the masses aren’t in it for their salvation, but as a way to rob the taxman.

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