Don’t know much about foreign policy

Clearly, the big news from Zev Chafets’ NYT piece on Mike Huckabee, to be published on Sunday in the Times’ Magazine, was the former governor’s suggestion that Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers. But that’s not the only noteworthy tidbit in the article.

A friend of mine emailed me about this interesting tidbit:

At lunch, when I asked him who influences his thinking on foreign affairs, he mentioned Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist, and Frank Gaffney, a neoconservative and the founder of a research group called the Center for Security Policy. This is like taking travel advice from Little Red Riding Hood and the Wolf, but the governor seemed unaware of the incongruity.

When I pressed him, he mentioned he had once “visited” with Richard Haass, the middle-of-the-road president of the Council on Foreign Relations. Huckabee has no military experience beyond commanding the Arkansas National Guard, but he doesn’t see this as an insuperable problem. “What you do,” he explained, “is surround yourself with the best possible advice.” The only name he mentioned was Representative Duncan Hunter of California. “Duncan is extraordinarily well qualified to be secretary of Defense,” he said.

In October, David Brooks, in an otherwise fawning column about Huckabee, conceded that “his foreign policy thinking is thin.” That was obviously a dramatic understatement — Huckabee’s understanding about international affairs is about as sophisticated as his child-like familiarity with energy policy.

Last week, he didn’t know what the National Intelligence Estimate was. This week, he identified Thomas Friedman and Frank Gaffney as his biggest influences on foreign policy, despite the fact that Friedman and Gaffney don’t actually agree on anything.

That Huckabee is a credible challenger for the GOP nomination at all suggests the party has pretty much given up on taking foreign-policy knowledge seriously as a presidential qualification.

Kevin Drum referred to Huckabee last night as the “village idiot” on a point unrelated to international affairs.

[W]ill anyone press him on this? Or will he get the village idiot treatment that Republicans since Ronald Reagan have so often gotten, where they’re sort of expected to say harebrained stuff and nobody holds it against them? After all, this has nothing to do with Huckabee’s hair, his cleavage, or his middle name, only with the fact that he displays an almost comical, grade-school ignorance of even the bare basics of national energy policy. And who cares about that in a president of the United States?

I’m genuinely curious about this. George W. Bush showed a similar sophistication when it came to current events and policy basics in 2000, and the political press corps more or less laughed it off, as if intelligence was no longer relevant in a national leader.

With Huckabee, it’s happening all over again — a southern governor who doesn’t know anything about policy is running on his charm, his religion, and his appeal to far-right activists. Political reporters thought it would be rude (or, more accurately, biased) to emphasize the candidate’s lack of intellectual prowess, and we’ve been paying a high price ever since.

I’ve seen this movie before, and I really don’t like the ending.

Post Script: By the way, speaking of Huckabee and foreign policy, Patrick Ruffini asked yesterday, “Is the national security party really going to [nominate] a former governor with zero national security experience to face al-Qaeda?”

Of course, he recommended that this tilts the scales in the direction of Rudy Giuliani, who has zero national security experience. Just thought I’d mention it.

He either deliberately failed to notice, or inadvertently missed that Bush has the same philosophy – surround yourself with the best possible advice. Never mind that the advice was limited to that which suited the president’s ideology, or that he sometimes disregarded even that to “go with his gut”; the approach was the same.

I doubt America is ready to elect another admitted simpleton to its highest office after the sharp lesson it was just taught. I know about the attention-deficit thing and all, but it can’t be THAT short.

  • As John Cole said today: “Grab the popcorn and soda, because the GOP is providing the nuts.”

    But it just gets better and better on Huck and Rom. Sully found this in a section from the official LDS site, explaining Mormon theology (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/12/huckabee-romney.html):

    “On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. ”

    And of course there is the best ad parody of the year so far (according to the Greta Orange Satan himslef) that simply rips the entire reThug field: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuWUdUDUIDQ

    It really feels like the entire GOP field is going to explode today, just like Dodd’s head 🙂 (Borowitz Rewport: The head of longtime CNN anchorman Lou Dobbs exploded last night, fifteen minutes into the broadcast of his nightly news program, “Lou Dobbs Tonight.” )

    Fun times!

  • What difference does it make what foreign policy experience Pass the Buck Huck has? He’ll answer to his NeoCon Globalist masters in the CFR anyway.

  • Mark – well, the US did put Bush in the presidency twice while knowing that he was very deeply ignorant about the rest of the world. And we elected Reagan twice before that.

  • In answer to Patrick Ruffini’s question: You betcha.

    To think the GOP is serious about national security is to think the GOP really gives a damn about post-partum fetuses, family, moral values, a strong military, fiscal restraint or anything else they say they support.

    They don’t care, provided their guy wins.

  • when I asked him who influences his thinking on foreign affairs, he mentioned Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist, and Frank Gaffney,

    You mean he doesn’t ask God?

    What kind of Baptist minister is this??????

    Will he be speaking in tongues, next???

    Get back, Satan!

  • He could just peer into his crystal ball, or his Magic Eight Ball. He doesn’t have to solicit advice from knowledgeable people.

  • The GOP just wants a spokesperson to keep the citizens at bay while the Military-industrial-legislative complex goes about its business. I mean face it, we had a president with alzhiemers and didn’t know it and couldn’t tell.

    We would get more intelligent informed nominees if we actually did hold them accountable for their actions. Instead we get “I won’t tell on you if you won’t tell on me”. The GOP and its nominees are too prideful to to change directions and will go right on walking the country over the cliff. Many want to continue Bush policies but refuse to mention his name. Bye-bye repubs…time to fix the country again after your ‘intelligent’ design put us in the largest hole ever.

  • N.Wells – (Re: #4) –
    The United States Supreme Court put the Codpiece in office in 2000. Remember that there were about a half million or so more votes for Gore? By effectively caving to Republicans and overruling the Florida Supreme Court (who had ordered a complete recount of the razor-thin vote difference in Florida), they put their politics before democracy 5 to 4. So Junior actually got 100% of the black vote in 2000 (Clarence The Silent).
    In 2004 the voting irregularities in Ohio threw the election to the Deciderator.
    So the American people put it close enough to steal twice, and then rolled over and went back to to sleep after each of the thefts. Yeah, I guess that would qualify as putting him in the presidency (no capital for this asswipe).

  • ***btw Carpetbagger*** now name and email doesn’t have to be entered before commenting. Maybe it was just needed before entering the 1st comment .

  • WHY should we be consultin’ and readifyin’?

    WE SHOULD be hootin’ + hollerin’!

  • What you do,” he explained, “is surround yourself with the best possible advice.”

    We’re screwed if they start pulling the old “sit down and have a beer with him” schtick… yeah, I know he’s a Baptist minister, but if he wants to president bad enough, and that’s what he has to do, he’ll say it.

  • An obvious pattern emerges from the GOP — Reagan, Bush Jr. and now Huckabee.

    The question is how long will Americans be blind to their lack of intelligence and leadership?

  • “That Huckabee is a credible challenger for the GOP nomination at all suggests the party has pretty much given up on taking foreign-policy knowledge seriously as a presidential qualification.”

    The Republican party gave up on that a long time ago. It gave up even the appearance of caring about foreign policy with the end of the Cold War; that’s why every putative Republican foreign policy expert is still, to this day, a cold warrior. The Republicans like to talk a lot about living in a post-9/11 world, but they can’t even bother to pretend that they believe that they’re living in a post-Cuban-Missile-Crisis world. The Republicans lacked seriousness in foreign policy for the last quarter century of the cold war, when seriousness demanded acknowledgment that the commie hordes weren’t going to overrun the world after all; the Republicans are still fighting the commie hordes and their foreign policy is limited to seeing a threat just like the 1950s Soviet Union around every corner.

  • This week, he identified Thomas Friedman and Frank Gaffney as his biggest influences on foreign policy. — CB

    Never having read Gaffney, I don’t know anything about him but, if he’s reading Unit Friedman, he’s getting two for the price of one — Friedman’s all knowing on both foreign policy and energy.

    PS bjobotts. My settings don’t seem to have changed at all — the ‘puter remembered me yesterday and seems to remember me today as well. But the requirement for leaving the name ad e-mail continues to show up all the time.

  • I’d just like to mention that none of us have national security experience, yet could probably answer these questions much better than any Republican running for president. It’s not about experience. It’s about not being a complete twit whose brain is eternally held captive to an ideology that cannot be correct. Some things are simply insurmountable.

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