The debacle of the ‘Seas of David’ terrorist plot

There have been a series of alleged terrorist plots that the White House has claimed to have disrupted. Sometimes Bush and his team tout these thwarted plots to defend torture, and sometimes it’s to defend illegally tapping Americans’ phones, but the bottom line is always the same — there are dangerous bad guys out there, and the president is stopping them.

As it turns out, most, if not all, of the examples of thwarted plots touted by the Bush gang fall apart under scrutiny, but my all-time favorite has to be the “Seas of David” cult (aka, the “Miami 7”).

When these would-be terrorists were captured, the administration characterized it as an enormous victory. Shortly after the suspects were taken into custody, Dick Cheney personally bragged that the Miami group was “a very real threat.” Then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was so excited he held a press conference to highlight this stunning counter-terrorism success story.

The AG said the group represented a “new brand of terrorism” created by “the convergence of globalization and technology.” The Justice Department said the terrorists in Miami intended to even blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago.

Except the story was wildly exaggerated. These alleged terrorists had no weapons, no bombs, no expertise, and no money. They didn’t behave or operate as terrorists. They apparently swore an oath of allegiance to Osama bin Laden, but because an undercover FBI infiltrator suggested the idea. For that matter, these guys weren’t even Muslims, but instead practiced their own hybrid religion that combined Islam and Christianity.

Their “plots” against the United States were “embryonic at best.” The New York Daily News described the group, which was more a cult than a terrorist network, as the “7 Boobs.” They’d have trouble attacking a convenience store, better yet the Sears Tower.

Yesterday, a jury found the administration’s case unpersuasive, at best.

One of seven indigent men charged with plotting to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago as part of an Islamic jihad was acquitted on Thursday, and a mistrial was declared in the prosecution of the six others after the jury said it was hopelessly deadlocked.

The outcome was a significant defeat for the Bush administration, which had described the case as a major crackdown on homegrown terrorists.

Officials had acknowledged that the defendants, known as the Liberty City Seven for the depressed section of Miami where they frequently gathered in a rundown warehouse, had never acquired weapons or equipment and had posed no immediate threat. But, the officials said, the case underscored a need for pre-emptive terrorism prosecutions.

Maybe in some cases, but probably not in this one. The FBI accused these seven people of wanting to destroy the Sears Tower in large part because one of the seven had once visited the building.

Indeed, Paul Kiel reminded me of the group’s ringleader.

The clique, adherents of a sect “that mixes Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, Freemasonry, Gnosticism and Taoism,” met in a windowless warehouse they called the “Temple.” The leader of the group, Narseal Batiste, was described as a “‘Moses-like figure’ who would roam the streets in a cape or bathrobe, toting a crooked wooden cane and looking for young men to join his group.” And when the group met in their Temple, the men “took turns standing guard outside the door, dressed up in makeshift military uniforms and combat boots.” … The group trained by shooting paintball guns in the woods.

Something to remember the next time Cheney describes something as “a very real threat.”

As for the mistrial, the administration reportedly will re-file charges next year against six of the seven. Stay tuned.

You go into an off-year election with the threats you’ve got, not the threats you wish you had.

  • Well, the jury deadlocked so I tend to think there might be a little more to this “plot” than the apparent ridiculousness of it. Juries hear more information than the press provides. The guys certainly had the willingness to do something even if they lacked the competence. Who knows.

  • LOL! Bush & Cheney are hunting man-eating tigers and manage to catch seven fuzzy caterpillars that they excitedly tell the world about! This is the myopic vision of a 3 year-old.

  • Republicans nave nothing offer beyond fear and loathing. It doesn’t matter if there’s no there there … they’ll find it.

    Sort of like a theologian: a blind man in an unlit cellar who’s looking for a black cat which isn’t there … and finds it.

  • And so goes the Global War on Terror.

    What terrifies me more than anything is the comical (if it weren’t so serious) stupidity and incompetence of the leaders of these Keystone Kops, who are in charge of keeping me safe from the terrorists who supposedly lurk around every corner. And I am terrified that we are being so weakened by these morons that America will completely collapse before we get rid of them in another year.

    Maybe they can find a real terrorist plot to scare us with if they turn up the volume on the torture at Guantanamo and the CIA’s secret prisons.

  • But… but… Under the .0001% rule, those guys had the capacity to learn to become terrorists, so we have every right to throw them in jail. Who knows, maybe one of them could have taken a chemistry class in a community college and learned to put something nasty inside a paintball?

    I think we need to just nuke the entire planet because somewhere, right now, there is a terrorist being born. You can’t be too careful you know.

  • Dale

    There actually may not be a whole lot “more” that deadlocked the jury. From the New York Times report:

    Mr. Agron, the jury foreman, who described himself as an educator at a synagogue, said the case’s complexity, with seven defendants each facing four conspiracy counts, had made for “tough” deliberations.

    “There were just different takes by different people,” he said. “People have different takes on what they saw, on what was said and what was meant.”

    Mr. Agron declined to detail how the 12 jurors had split on each count and each defendant. But he said they had thought the weakest count was the government’s charge that the defendants had conspired to wage war against the United States.

    The other charges were conspiracy to provide material support to Al Qaeda, conspiracy to destroy federal buildings and conspiracy to provide material support for the destruction of federal buildings.

    Steve mentioned: “These alleged terrorists had no weapons, no bombs, no expertise, and no money. They didn’t behave or operate as terrorists. They apparently swore an oath of allegiance to Osama bin Laden, but because an undercover FBI infiltrator suggested the idea. ”

    and

    “The FBI accused these seven people of wanting to destroy the Sears Tower in large part because one of the seven had once visited the building.”

    So, it seems to me that the government couldn’t make the case against these guys whose weapons-practice was shooting paint-balls in the woods. Heck, when I was younger, I did that too with a bunch of crazy friends. That sure didn’t make me “weaponized” or able to bring down, not the Sears Tower in Chicago where I’ve never been, but the Empire State Building or any other building where I HAVE been..

  • Surprise surprise, Fools & Buffoons, Incorporated, is discovered once again using agents provocateurs and creating “criminal activity” where it doesn’t exist. As someone who narrowly avoided being taken in by one of these asswhipes 37 years ago, it is somehow comforting to realize that zebras cannot get rid of their stripes.

    Further reason why it’s not hyperbole to advise people that, when the FBI tells you it’s Friday, be sure to check three calendars and get four independent sources before believing them.

    Thank God there were at least 12 Americans who saw through the incompetence of these right wing loosers.

    Fools & Buffons, Incorporated, and Can’t Investigate Anything – don’t you just feel warm and toasty and safe with these droolers manning the ramparts of freedom?

  • 2. On December 14th, 2007 at 11:16 am, Dale said:
    Well, the jury deadlocked so I tend to think there might be a little more to this “plot” than the apparent ridiculousness of it. Juries hear more information than the press provides. The guys certainly had the willingness to do something even if they lacked the competence. Who knows.
    ______________

    I believe the term for that kind of logic is “speculative.”

    You could argue completely the opposite – that there was zero evidence to convict them, or even accuse them, but there were people on the jury so conditioned to believe any malcontent is a terrorist, they wanted to hang ’em high simply because their government told them they were bad mens who had to be put down.

    In other words, there may be nothing more to this plot than the utter ridiculousness of it.

  • Since the Bush Admin. took this country, they have consistently employed only the worst ideas of law enforcement, and have created 3 (if not more) new wars all modeled after the 30 plus year example of failure called the War on Drugs.

    Here we have a hapless bunch of hooligans, confused, and open to suggestion. Toss in the tried and true double agent to suggest the group organize, swear an oath to bin Laden, and look for something to attack. Suddenly a ragtag gang becomes public enemy #1.

    Compare the culture of drug enforcement with our current wars. We pay tribal leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan to round up their enemies and sell them as “terrorists”. We take these people to the other side of the world to a secret facility and torture them. We always take the word of a paid informant over the word of any accused. We declare our own agents to be ungoverned my any law and incapable of making a mistake.

    It’s the mindset of Big Brother that has taken hold and named itself the Bush Administration. It’s the culture of paranoid infallibility that has destroyed America’s honor and moral high ground.

  • Dale wrote:

    Well, the jury deadlocked so I tend to think there might be a little more to this “plot” than the apparent ridiculousness of it. Juries hear more information than the press provides. The guys certainly had the willingness to do something even if they lacked the competence. Who knows

    Well Dale, lawyers can be pretty persuasive, and I’m sure the prosecutor worked on them pretty hard about “how far is it from practicing with paintball weapons to actually getting guns and using them” and similar lines- a lot of prosecutors really want to win their cases, by the way; a lawyer in that role often sees what he’s doing as trying his best to win when the government has enough evidence to bring a case to trial (otherwise, he’s feel he was impermissably doing the jury’s work for them by weighing the evidence on his own and deciding whether it showed the guys were enough of a threat to lock up or not)- and we really don’t know that there was more meaningful evidence to the case than what CB summed up in his post.

    Just because it sounds stupid to me or you or almost anybody else doesn’t mean the prosecuting lawyer and the FBI agents involved weren’t some kind of numb-nuts idiots, or guys who just wanted to make names for themselves, or something. Sounds to me like 7 homeless guys who borrowed paintball guns once from some fucked up kid they know- that kind of thing. Doubtless the conservatives are going to argue that this case represents how close people can be to being a threat, and that we need to have more investigatory power extended into our lives to counter it. I think what (the media representation of) the case really shows is that even within this base set of facts, you have to know more to find out whether it justified an arrest, or just crisis intervention. Their could be guys doing this who are harmless, and guys doing this who are really a threat. So the GOP will try to use it as a perfect opportunity to say that every funny looking guy who practices paintball with his friends should be wiretapped, and we just have to say the common-sense thing back: “Hey, just because some metal heads, or whatever looks funny to you, want to play paintball on the weekends, doesn’t make them terrorists. You have to know more.”

  • “There have been a series of alleged terrorist plots that the White House has claimed to have disrupted. Sometimes Bush and his team tout these thwarted plots to defend torture, and sometimes it’s to defend illegally tapping Americans’ phones, ..”

    Actually, I think this “plot’ was uncovered just after there was criticism for the administration’s dispersal of Homeland Security funding.
    ( http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/01/washington/01security.html?_r=1&oref=slogin )
    Chicago got an increase in funding, and low and behold, the government uncovers a plot to blow up the Sears Tower in that city.
    What a coincidence!

  • That is, the worst thing the GOP could do with this is say, “If some guys who look just like me and my friends, who wear cowboy hats and go to church every week, want to play paintball, that’s not suspicious, but if some people have long hair and wear heavy metal t-shirts, they can’t play paintball without having an investigation done on them” (because the FBI agents associate the heavy metal image with crime generally, even if they can’t associate it with terrorism beyond maybe the Columbine shooting). It’s totally arguable whether nowadays more hick-looking white guys or more heavy metal looking guys in America are criminals, as hard rock has become a lot less counter-culture and a lot more middle class, and that change has been going on for years. But there are plenty of people out there who have their own opinions on this stuff, and it’s our duty to make sure a stupid opinion doesn’t determine what all the rules should be.

  • these bozos appear incompetent enough to get jobs in the bush administration when their trials are over!

  • Jayzuz, these guys didn’t even have shoes! But, they’ll keep retrying the mistrials to try to find the missing “there” or until everyone goes nuts, whichever comes first.

  • Politically, terrorism has become our new straw man. It is used to sell us unneeded fear and to get us to sheepishly follow whomever invokes its spector. I say to help us heal, we should turn the straw man of terrorism into the burning man so we can purge our national soul of its petty political leaders – it’s either that, or get out and vote in ’08 to alleviate our fearmongers of their elected office so we can more sanily travel into our future. -Kevo

  • Juries spend days and days listening to two sides of a case. We read a few reports about it. If they are deadlocked on the matter, then who are we to be so unspeculative as to say we know more about it than they do? I respect the jury system even with all its flaws. It is the Bushies who don’t trust our legal system.

    We make fun of unconvicted Reps who say they were found not guilty when that is not the case. A deadlocked jury does not equal innocence.

  • Dale – let’s remember the first rule about the Bush administration; if they say someting, don’t believe it (kudos to Oliver Willis per Atrios).
    They have poisoned the well, I cannot believe ANYTHING that come from this group. So, if the Bush-butt sniffing FBI concocts a plot & entraps a bunch of poor, black bums to get a “terrorism” story, I’m not going to buy it.
    Honestly, do you believe these guys? Really?

  • I’m not saying this Miami 7 thing was a credible plot. I highly doubt it. But if it were the slam-dunk ridiculous debacle we’re calling it, then there wouldn’t have been a hung jury among twelve fairly random people on a jury who heard evidence from both sides of the issue day after day.

  • Officials had acknowledged that the defendants, known as the Liberty City Seven for the depressed section of Miami where they frequently gathered in a rundown warehouse, had never acquired weapons or equipment and had posed no immediate threat. But, the officials said, the case underscored a need for pre-emptive terrorism prosecutions. — NYTimes

    Could be it’s because Christmas is coming and it’s been on my mind. But, that “Story of the 7 Boobs” reminds me of nothing so much as the story of Herod and *his* pre-emptive strike. Similar success rate, too.

  • Juries hear more information than the press provides.

    Actually, I was on a jury in a murder trial once and my wife definitely knew more about what was going on than I did. She didn’t share anything with me until after the trial, but there was a lot of juicy stuff that wasn’t allowed on the record that I didn’t know about. And while we did find the guy guilty, the stuff that was reported in the news would have convicted him even faster. But the prosecution wasn’t allowed to bring it into evidence, so we never knew anything about it.

    As for the hung jury, I’m assuming that there were Republicans on the jury who refused to be swayed by the evidence and just wanted to convict them some terrorists. That happens. The trial I was on involved a guy who murdered his wife, and while the case against him was fairly straight forward, one of the jurors thought the guy was innocent because she thought OJ was innocent, while another thought he was innocent because the guy in Shawshank Redemption was innocent. I kid you not. Plus, neither of them liked the jury foreman and made a point of disagreeing with him whenever they could. I was fairly convinced that we’d never be able to convince those two and that we’d have a hung jury for sure. Some people really have a hard time being impartial and let their personal feelings get in the way.

  • Yeah juries and the admissibility of evidence are wonky and limiting, but we either believe that our legal system should handle terrorism trials or we find them inadequate. Deadlock could mean anything from 1 juror being recalcitrant (12 Angry Men gone wrong) to a lack of majority. I like the Marx Brothers version of the plot as much as anyone, but someone in our chosen venue (jury trial) had reservations about it.

  • I like the Marx Brothers version of the plot as much as anyone, but someone in our chosen venue (jury trial) had reservations about it.

    I agree that we’re stuck with the jury system we’ve got, and don’t really have a problem with that. But I think it’s a mistake to suggest that this jury knows something we don’t. Because we make decisions based upon what we know, not what we can imagine. And from what we know, this trial is a joke. I’ll accept that a hung jury happened, but refuse to accept that there was a good reason for it.

    And honestly, are you going to tell me that out of twelve random people in Florida, there isn’t a good likelihood that there is one loyal Bushie who trusts Dear Leader more than their own eyes? Remember, there’s still a large segment of our society who believes these guys don’t even deserve trials. So I see no reason to imagine that none of them got onto this jury. In fact, I just saw that Bush currently has a 37% approval rating in Florida, which would put four Bushies in that jury; and anyone who still supports Bush is likely to support his prosecution of these terrorists. So I see no reason to imagine that these people know something we don’t, when they never seem that way the rest of the time.

    Besides, if the Bush Admin had a better case than what we’ve been told, wouldn’t they have told it by now? The cable news eats this stuff up and this trial is a huge embarrassment. I’m telling you, it’s a mistake to imagine that there is more to this than what we’ve heard.

  • This whole jury thing is getting a little dated, wouldn’t you say? What with high-tech forensics and such, isn’t it about time we considered professional jurors? Or, if we’re talking about a jury of peers, I’d be up for every defendent taking an IQ test, and not allowing a single juror who has one lower than the defendent. Otherwise what’s the whole peer thing? The last thing I’d want is some dunce passing judgement on me if, FSM forbid, I should ever end up in court. And there are some people ridiculously incapable of rational thought who end up on juries (see Dr. Biobrain’s post, above, for a good example). On the other hand, professional jurists could be thoroughly vetted both for intelligence and knowledge. I’d take that jury any day.

  • Damn. Got a little crazy with that bold coding, I guess. Then again, I kind of like how it gave my comment a little special pop. Hmm…perhaps I should think about doing that with all my comments.

  • Doctor BB

    Don’t worry about it. I’ve done it with italics, completely ruining the emphasis I wanted to make!

  • Dr B – Thanks for your observations. Let me add some of my own.
    Are we all familiar with authoritarians? You know, people who put enormous trust in those who have attained the “superior” status? I have 2 brother-in-laws (both ex-military btw) who are like this. Otherwise normal, intellegent people, when it comes to politics, the (always Republican) authority is trusted even more than evidence put in front of them. There’s always this “they have more information than we do, so that evidence does not count” attitude.
    Funny though, it does not kick in for Democratic authorities (read Bill Clinton).
    Oh yeah, they are Fox “News” viewers, too.

  • Your’e kidding, President Lindsay, aren’t you? Please say you’re kidding.

    This whole jury thing is getting a little dated, wouldn’t you say? What with high-tech forensics and such, isn’t it about time we considered professional jurors?

    Are you suggesting we put our Sixth Amendment rights into the hands of “professionals” like the “professionals” holding U.S. Attorney positions, or the “professionals” who ran the elections in Ohio, or the “professionals” who run FEMA, the EPA, and the civil rights division of the Justice Dept., or the “professionals” who run the Iraq reconstruction?

    …professional jurists could be thoroughly vetted both for intelligence and knowledge.

    Who do you think would be doing the vetting?

    Jesus Christ, don’t give Cheney any more ideas!

  • There was a 14-year old Pennsylvania boy arrested in October of this year who had in his possession: one .22-caliber handgun, a .22-caliber rifle, a 9 mm semiautomatic rifle with a laser scope, 30 air-powered guns, swords, knives, a number of home-made grenades (one of which was fully functional), and videos of the 1999 Columbine attack. By himself, this 14-year old kid was more dangerous — and more prepared to wage war — than all seven of these poor patsies combined. They weren’t even a danger to themselves.

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