The more people see of Giuliani, the less they like him

It seems like quite a while ago, but earlier this year, Rudy Giuliani actually intended to be a force in the Iowa caucuses. He campaigned frequently in the state, held a lot of town-hall meetings, and through around June, actually lead in Iowa polls.

Then, of course, Republicans got a good look at the guy, heard what he had to say, learned about Giuliani’s background, and dropped him like a hot potato. His campaign pulled out of the Ames straw poll, and Giuliani’s support in the state has been in free-fall ever since.

Which leads, of course, to New Hampshire, where Giuliani expected to be a serious player. Like Iowa, the former mayor spent quite a bit of time in the Granite State, and in the early fall, was a close second in the polls. Then, a funny thing happened. (via Kos)

Rudolph Giuliani’s decision to largely abandon the early voting state of New Hampshire and concentrate his efforts on the Florida primary three weeks later reflects an uncomfortable truth for the former New York mayor: The more he campaigned in the Granite State and the more he spent on advertising there, the more his poll numbers dropped.

Mr. Giuliani appears to be making a virtue of necessity by sounding the retreat in New Hampshire, where he continues to be outgunned by the Republican front-runner there, Mitt Romney, and where he has been beaten into second place by the resurgent campaign of Senator McCain.

It’s striking to see the trend-lines. In just Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and nationally, Giuliani’s support, steady most of the year, dropped sharply a couple of months ago, and shows no signs of recovering.

There are a variety of possible explanations, but I’m partial to the least-complicated one: Giuliani just doesn’t wear well over time.

To be sure, the former mayor’s flailing fortunes began right around the time the Shag Fund scandal began. But let’s face it — as damaging as the controversy was, political reporters showed interest in the story for about a day or two. Giuliani and his aides came up with some bogus explanation, the media bought into the nonsense, and most voters probably didn’t hear about it. In other words, it’s probably not the cause for the decline.

Similarly, Giuliani’s downturn came around the same time as Mike Huckabee’s upturn. But the political landscape suggests the two are unrelated — Giuliani and Huckabee appeal to two entirely different types of voters. It seems highly unlikely GOP voters started switching their allegiance from the morally-challenged Yankee running on a national security platform to the Baptist preacher running on, well, whatever it is Huckabee’s platform is right now.

No, the likely culprit is that people just aren’t buying what Giuliani’s selling. He thought he could 9/11 his way to the nomination (yes, in Giuliani’s case, 9/11 is a verb), but when voters scratched beneath the surface, they weren’t impressed.

To his credit, way back in February, Kevin Drum suggested this might happen.

The average voter has vague, positive impressions of Rudy thanks to his 9/11 heroics, and these people are going to be unpleasantly surprised when they see him for the first time in years and he turns out to be nastier than they remember (not to mention being freighted down by a closet full of skeletons they didn’t know about). He has nowhere to go but down.

And for the most part, 10 months later, that’s pretty much what’s happened. People got to know Rudy … and then beat a trail in the other direction.

This isn’t to say he’s through; he’s not. Indeed, unless one candidate sweeps the early contests — which, at this point, seems unlikely — Giuliani’s emphasis on Florida and February 5 may actually pay dividends.

But it has to be discouraging for the campaign. They have a candidate who’s popularity goes down the more people see him.

“The more advertising I see, the less I want to buy.” Tom Robbins

  • Giuliani’s problem can be easily fixed. All he needs to do is hide behind a big black curtain with a bunch of gizmos and SFX gear, projecting a really humongous image of his head into thin air surrounded by lots of boiling fire and sulphurous smoke, and scream I AM THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ!!! every time someone walks into the room. Given all the brainless scarecrows, heartless tin-men, and cowardly lions in the GOP, winning the nomination should be a snap.

    But then again, there was that little dog with a penchant for pulling back the curtain and exposing the truth. Someone must’ve forgotten to tell GhoulChild that the dog wasn’t drinking the koolaid….

  • The Republican candidates who seem authentic–Huckabee and Paul (though his polling still doesn’t show the rise the money would seem to foreshadow…)–have made life very tough for the two guys, Mittens and Il Douche, who reek of insincerity.

  • But it has to be discouraging for the campaign. They have a candidate who’s popularity goes down the more people see him.

    Just like George W. Bush.

  • That’s exactly right. Republicans did not know the man…at all except for 9/11. Once he started acting like Bush dark he appealed to only a small fraction of the republican party. His megalomania became apparent with each exaggeration and lie. To the open minded he’s always been a joke but most just did not know enough or see enough of him to come to that conclusion. To know him is not to love…it is to laugh at him and his insane or corrupt advisers. One would have to forgive to much and wear blinders to even consider Rudy as a serious candidate for president of our nation. The same is true of Fred Thompson who will end the same way.

    FREE POLITICAL PRISONER DON SIEGELMAN. INVESTIGATE THE 2000 STOLEN GOVERNOR’S ELECTION IN ALABAMA

  • “…brainless scarecrows, heartless tin-men, and cowardly lions…”

    for a minute, i thought you were talking about the democratic congressional leadership.

  • I was always astounded that Giuliani was considered a first-tier candidate, much less the front-runner. Pro-abortion, with more baggage than the Lusitania, the man is a nasty piece of work. I read lots of stuff about how the fundies would swoon for his authoritarianism and ignore the abortion stuff. I never thought that would happen.

    It just keeps looking more and more to me like Mitt will get the nomination by default. (I expect Huckabee’s boomlet is due to start losing steam quite soon.)

  • Although a miracle could still occur – and it’s early days yet – it does indeed look like Rudy is beginning to circle the bowl. That’s too bad, because I was fervently hoping he would be the Republican nominee. He built such a fragile house of cards with all his exaggerations and made-up statistics that it would have been child’s play for any leading Dem candidate to blow him apart. He would have been the easiest to beat, in my estimation, although the entire field is weak and sappy.

    If the Dems can’t win this one, they might as well disband the party.

  • Mark, I’m not willing to take a chance of Giuliani being the nominee, no matter how vulnerable he’d be in the general election. If Bush could get “re”-elected in 2004, anything’s possible.

  • Giuliani is the biggest hypocrit. He let New york in a budget deficit even before 9/11.

    Daily News May 18, 2001 TWO WARN OF BUDGET SHORTFALLS p27 FRANK LOMBARDI In an unusual joint assault, the state and city controllers teamed up yesterday to warn that Mayor Giuliani is underestimating future budget shortfalls by nearly $2 billion a year. The next mayor could be forced to impose drastic service cutbacks and even major layoffs, state Controller Carl McCall and city Controller Alan Hevesi said at a rare joint news conference.

    New York Times May 1, 2001 Giuliani Keeps Foot in Race For Some Selective Tripping B1COL4 ELISABETH BUMILLER Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani’s latest strategy in his newest, most favorite sport — making mischief in the race for his successor — seems to be to bolster the fortunes of one Democratic candidate, City Council Speaker Peter F. Vallone, and to continue to harm another, City Comptroller Alan G. Hevesi… Mr. Hevesi, meanwhile, said yesterday at a news conference that the city was facing a “potential time bomb” because of Mr. Giuliani’s proposed $39.5 billion city budget, which the comptroller said contained tax cuts and large union raises that would leave future mayors with dangerous deficits.

  • I know Rudy Giuliani.

    A friend of mine is knows Rudy Giuliani.

    And believe me, the closer you get to the man, the less you like him.

    I have had the chance to meet a lot of politicians, though none of the current group, and, up close, most of them are nice people. They need to be nice people because they need to sincere or at least fake sincerity.

    My advice is stay away from Rudy.

  • Rudy should be imitating Fred Thompson’s campaign strategy – stay home, say very little and take naps.

  • “There are a variety of possible explanations, but I’m partial to the least-complicated one: Giuliani just doesn’t wear well over time.”

    As any New Yorker could tell you, however much truth you ascribe to that statement isn’t enough to properly quantify its truth. It’s truer than true can be, and a bit truer than that, with an extra helping of true on top, a dollop of true on the side, encompassed in a truth so vast that the size of the universe pales in comparison, to say that Giuliani does not wear well over time.

  • ***It’s truer than true can be, and a bit truer than that, with an extra helping of true on top, a dollop of true on the side, encompassed in a truth so vast that the size of the universe pales in comparison, to say that Giuliani does not wear well over time.***

    So, I guess we could say that the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is that “Giuiani doesn’t wear well over time.” I always knew there was something wrong with “42” as the answer….

  • Actually Steve, the answer always was “Don’t Panic!” “42” was just a cover story. No one would ever have bought the Guide if they knew that everything they needed to know was on its cover. “Giuliani doesn’t wear well over time” is just a direct corollary of “Don’t Panic!”

  • I’m with Novemberist on this one. Rudy is the most clearly facist of the Republican’t offerings, and considering how the 2000 election was stolen, I don’t want to see him anywhere on a ballot.

    Nope, let the Republican’ts at least run a candidate who could execute the laws of the United States without cracking up at the clear irony of it.

  • Even here in Puerto Rico we hope and pray that you silly gringos see Rudy for the incompetent fool he is.. Please don’t elect another GWB!!!!!!!!! , the world wouldn’t stand a chance if you do!!! As it is , republicans under Bush have pretty much destroyed the nation already. Good Luck!! I’ll watch the debacle on CNN in perfect weather!!!

  • As one wag recently put it – all Rudy needs is a balcony. If it were possible that anyone could be more contemptuous of our Constitution than BushCheney, that person would be Rudy. Electing him would be nothing short of awful. Please say it won’t happen.

  • History may well decide that the beginning of the end of Rudy Giuliani’s Presidential aspirations came with an off-the the cuff remark:

    There’s only three things he mentions in a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11.

    Joe Biden’s October 30 quip, arguably the funniest remark to date by a Presidential contender, did a better job than Toto in pulling the curtain on Giuliani.

  • I am from NYC… have been living here for 12 years now … I am so afraid to see Guliani anywhere… That guy just reminds me of the mafia…. I just sense evilness on him, just like sense evilness on bush. Please be careful, the devil is looking for people to use and these are the most viable ones.

  • I hope Huckabee gets the nomination. I mean, I hate just about everything he stands for, but it’s more of a benign “I disagree with your views” kind of way rather than the “I will leave the country if he wins the White House” kind that I feel towards Giuliani. It’s weird; I don’t mind Republicans by and large but something about this guy and the fact that he doesn’t even PRETEND to be a decent human being is really obnoxious. The politicians who lie to flatter you at least respect you enough to think that you’re worthy of deceiving; Giuliani can’t even bother to do that. What a freak.

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