Romney’s MLK trump card starts to look shaky

On Meet the Press over the weekend, Tim Russert pressed Mitt Romney on his church’s history of racism. As the host noted, the LDS Church didn’t allow black people to participate fully in church services until 1978. “You were 31 years old, and your church was excluding blacks from full participation,” Russert said. “Didn’t you think, ‘What am I doing part of an organization that is viewed by many as a racist organization?'”

Romney had heard this many times before, and immediately drew a distinction between his church’s history and his family’s history. “My dad marched with Martin Luther King,” Romney said. As the former governor sees it, his parent’s work helps reflect his “fundamental core beliefs.”

He’s done this quite a bit. In his very high-profile speech on religion in America two weeks ago, Romney described “American values,” and bragged, “I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.”

But whether this actually occurred is now open to some question. The Boston Phoenix looked into Romney’s claim and “can find no evidence that the senior Romney actually marched with King, nor anything in the public record suggesting that he ever claimed to do so.” Indeed, Mitt Romney never even claimed that his father marched with MLK until after his father passed away — “not even when defending accusations of the Mormon church’s discriminatory past during his 1994 Senate campaign.” (via Mr. Furious)

Asked about the specifics of George Romney’s march with MLK, Mitt Romney’s campaign told the Phoenix that it took place in Grosse Pointe, Michigan. That jibes with the description proffered by David S. Broder in a Washington Post column written days after Mitt’s College Station speech. Broder, in that column, references a 1967 book he co-authored on the Republican Party, which included a chapter on George Romney. It includes a one-line statement that the senior Romney “has marched with Martin Luther King through the exclusive Grosse Pointe suburb of Detroit.”

But that account is incorrect. King never marched in Grosse Pointe, according to the Grosse Pointe Historical Society, and had not appeared in the town at all at the time the Broder book was published. […]

In fact, King’s only appearance in Grosse Pointe, according to Berschback, took place after Broder’s book was published. That was for a March 14 speech he delivered at Grosse Pointe High School, just three weeks before King was assassinated. But there was no march, and George Romney was not there.

Uh oh.

This 1968 Grosse Pointe appearance is the one that Romney spokesperson Eric Fehrnstrom initially insisted, in email exchanges with the Phoenix, was the event in question. Fehrnstrom cited the Broder column and “the Romney family recollection.”

Of the many contemporaneous and historical records of the Grosse Pointe speech, none make any mention of George Romney’s attendance. It is unlikely, if not implausible, that his presence would have gone unnoticed: not only was he governor of the state, he had just, weeks before, dropped out of the race for President.

And, Mitt Romney would not have known about the event, let alone had a chance to “see” it. He was at that time in the middle of his two-year mission for the Mormon church in Le Havre, France. By his own description and others’, he was cut off from virtually all contact with his family; and at the time, King’s Grosse Pointe appearance was no more than local news.

The original mention, in Broder’s 1967 book, of a Romney-King Grosse Pointe march might have resulted from an accidental conflation of several different events.

This revelation, if accurate, is likely to be a very unhelpful embarrassment to Romney, following similar flaps this week over Romney attending a Planned Parenthood fundraiser (which contradicts some of his previous comments about his family’s PP contributions) and an NRA endorsement he cited that didn’t actually happen.

Stay tuned.

Update: I have a follow-up post, including the Romney campaign’s response, here.

These Reskunklicans seem to have an appetite for rugs—and rug-like things. If they’re not flying to Baghdad and tying up a full infantry company’s worth of war-fighting resources to shop for a cheaper-than-dirt rug—then they’re busy back here on the home front, lying like one….

  • Fathers do sometimes exaggerate to their sons to impress them. And most sons would take their dads at their word and not do the research to verify the claim. This may be as harmless as that. And sometimes sons reinterpret what fathers have done to make them be more heroic. If it proves that Romney’s father did not in fact assist MLK, then Romney should just apologize about the shaky memories and point out what he has done to help race relations. It is, after all, Mitt who is running, not his father.

    Somehow this isn’t in the same ballpark as spending city funds to chauffeur your mistress and her friends around or releasing rapists and murderers because they claim to have found Jesus.

  • The guy is a professional Chameleon.
    Pure hair spray and costume jewelry.
    A 24-stone carat fraud born into wealth…
    A modern day Zelig.

    He’d sell out his great grandparents (who fled the US to practice polygamy) if being pro-abortion would make him State Gov.

    He’d sell out himself if being anti-abortion would make him President.

    Who the hell is Mitt Romney?
    No one knows…

    And this prick should be President ???

    Please.
    The best candidate the Republicans have is McCain.
    And he is a tired old bat-shit crazy fool…

  • What? You mean Mitt Romney is not the voice of Truth itself?

    I am shocked. SHOCKED.

    This is the state of the Republican Party. It has no good options in the 2008 presidential race. With the exception of Ron Paul, is there one GOP candidate who is not a degenerate liar? Okay, Tancredo hasn’t actually been caught in a lie so far… but he’s Tancredo. And he’s dropping out, anyways.

    This is what happens when an entire generation of partisans absorbs the message that you don’t have to stand for anything, and you don’t have to govern – you just need to sound like you do.

    There comes a point that you just can’t fake it anymore. The entire Republican Party seems to have reached that point.

  • First, I still fail to see, even if George somehow managed to bump into MLK in the parking lot of the Grosse Pointe Kwick-E-Mart after the speech, this reflects well on Mittster. The bottom line is “what did Mitt himself do to further civil rights?” Assuming, for argument’s sake, that George did in fact actively support the civil rights cause, one would think that this sort of activity by his father would lead Mitt to have a much better understanding of, and increased sensitivity to, civil rights issues within and without LDS. Instead, Mitt did……nothing and remained silent. What a chump, and a lying one at that.

    And why am I not surprised, at all, that David Broder is responsible for writing untruths and nonsense. What a friggin’ tool. Always has been, always will be. Just one more example that reputation is not always deserved and is quite often only the result of self-promotion.

  • You aren’t looking at this correctly. George Romney may not have actually marched with MLK, but he meant to march with him. Or wished he had marched with him. Or something like that. And that’s just as good as it really happening, because if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. (Lenin said that, and it was just about the only thing he was right about.) Republican voters will understand this, even if you liberals don’t.

    Anyway, the point is that Romney is OK with black people, even though his church had to do a a 180-degree turn on what it teaches about blacks. I guess that the previous prophets got it wrong, because there is no way that God would have told them one thing for 150 years, and then suddenly changed his mind about blacks in about 1978.

    But even though the prophets got this one completely wrong, everything that they teach now is completely true and reliable because… well, because they are the prophets!

  • Well, it’s not Romney’s fault Broder is full of shit. Mitt does have a source for his story, even if the source is clearly wrong.

  • Hmmmmm, David Broder has published an untrue statement? I thought he was just a master of blowhard rhetoric, ridiculous prediction, and an undeniable expert in some corner of his own mind. To now know that he is just another liar, making a feeble attempt to tie the Republican part to Martin Luther King, Jr. Next he’ll be saying that MLK voted Republican.

  • “Well, it’s not Romney’s fault Broder is full of shit. Mitt does have a source for his story, even if the source is clearly wrong.”

    But, he wasn’t citing David Broder. He was referencing what he claimed he “saw.” How could someone else be blamed for him saying that he “saw” something that never happened?

  • People who can’t figure out that pretty much every claim they make will be fact-checked, and who don’t realize that things they say in front of microphones and cameras, and things they write for newspapers and magazines, are recorded for all time, should not be considered smart enough to hold the reins of power.

    I long for the day when someone in the news business, sitting across the table from these candidates, just blurts out the questions we all would like asked: “Do you think we are all stupid? Do you have no respect for the intelligence of the American people? And if you don’t think we’re stupid, and you do respect the intelligence of the American people, why do you keep saying things that are fact-checked and shot down within moments of your saying them? Are you hoping enough people will only hear your statements, and never hear the truth? Why do you just make up things that never happened, that you never said and never did? Should the American people have any trust in someone who lies to get elected?”

    But, since almost all of the people who have the platform to ask these questions are as craven as the politicians they cover, it will never happen. Jon Stewart could do it. Keith Olbermann could do it. But the rest of the bunch are pretty much useless.

  • As usual, What Ann Said.

    I do see the news whores becoming more aware of their situation, what with bloggers now hounding them pretty much every day after they let a whopper go by unchallenged. I think eventually they’ll be forced to deal with the reality gap which they’ve been happy to ignore in recent years.

  • Yep, it sure sounds to me like his father didn’t march, and this is something the Republicans just started making up somewhere along the line. Maybe Mitt heard about the Broder thing, and decided to start repeating the story, betting that no one would check into it, even if he knew he didn’t really have good verification for it. He thought the could count on no one checking it out so much that he decided to lie and say he saw the march himself, so it would shore the claim up. So claiming to see the march is the big lie and merely claming that George marched with MLK was like a border-line lie.

    Don’t know why Jen Flowers at #2 is apologizing for him.

  • Perhaps he saw it on a set of golden dvd players he found buried near his home. For Mormons seeing is not just seeing, it’s a vision thing.

  • Thanks for the link, Steve.

    I don’t actually think this is the greatest campaign scandal to come down the pike…what Romney is saying is, in broad strokes, true(ish). His point is essentially correct, his dad was active at the time and DID march for civil rights. Martin Luther King DID march in Michigan. They were just never doing it together.

    Another candidate might get the benefit of the doubt on this…One could argue a son might even believe this to be true, based on his own warm, fuzzy memories of his father, and Broder’s account making it sound like it actuallly happened.

    The problem is that Romney isn’t a trustworthy guy. He is clearly willing to say whatever it takes in any given situation to sell himself, and this looks like more of the same. He takes what appears to be a valid point about his upbringing and outlook and embellishes it—or creates out of whole cloth—a defining event to make his point. Including it in his signature, highly-anticipated and viewed speech, and using it as a defense in an interview against charges about his church means Romney has a responsibility to be accurate. These aren’t off the cuff situations.

    The even bigger problem than Romney’s fib, is the fact that guys like him and Guiliani are allowed to lie and write their own history with impunity, and no repercussions from the media.

    Al Gore and Joe Biden are still dogged by lesser offenses after years…

  • Maybe Mitt heard about the Broder thing, and decided to start repeating the story, betting that no one would check into it

    Sounds plausible, if not likely.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a part of Romney that wants to believe great(er) things about his father, but he is a guy who can’t make shit up and pretend it happened. Even if he wants it to be true.

  • If it proves that Romney’s father did not in fact assist MLK, then Romney should just apologize about the shaky memories and point out what he has done to help race relations. It is, after all, Mitt who is running, not his father.

    Good point. I have to wonder what the value of this whole thing was anyway…my initial reaction was “yeah, so what did YOU do at the time?” Mitt Romney was a college student in the mid sixtes ad certainly could have been marching himself if it meant anything to him.

  • In Romney’s defense maybe it’s his dad who told the whopper, or at least that will be the claim.

    Okie nailed it. They did a 180, that is like Christians claiming that the verse in the bible that says gays are immoral waking up tomorrow and claiming they misinterpreted the verse, gays are alright.

    Fine, but what about all the other non-sense they claim the Bible says.

    How can anyone take a religion seriously if they are going to flip flop ??

    One the other hand, the LDS really caught my attention last year with the ‘we accept anyone’ ad. It was powerful and impressive and if that is how they truly are, then that should be enough and that is what Mittens should be saying.

    That being said, I doubt many of his supporters really care if daddy marched with MLK. If he seriously doesn’t have a factual example of how he treats minorities in the present, then he probably isn’t the champion of equal rights he claims to be.

  • Follow-up in The Phoenix after a response from the Romney camp…

    A spokesperson for Mitt Romney now tells the Boston Phoenix that George W. Romney and Martin Luther King Jr. marched together in June, 1963 — although possibly not on the same day or in the same city.

    Romney, according to one piece of written source material provided by the campaign, made a “surprise” appearance at a small march in Grosse Pointe, Michigan, in late June — several days after King led a much larger march in Detroit. Romney spokesperson Eric Fehrnstrom suggests that these two were part of the same “series” of events, co-sponsored by King and the NAACP, and is thus consistent with Romney’s claim that “I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.”

    [via Andrew Sullivan]

    I guess it depends on what your definition of “with” is, as well as “saw.”

  • bubba nails it. Even if Mitt did see his daddy march with Dr. King, what does it tell us about Mittens?

    It is like a repeat offender standing up and court and saying he shouldn’t be found guilty again because his parents are nice people.

    More evidence of what an oily bastard is the Mitt.

  • A spokesperson for Mitt Romney now tells the Boston Phoenix that George W. Romney and Martin Luther King Jr. marched together in June, 1963 — although possibly not on the same day or in the same city.

    [Speechless]

  • I was just wondering about the LDS church in general.

    Have any of the LDS politicians ever said the church was wrong about their discrimination against blacks?

    There are a huge number of LDS politicians at various levels.
    In the Senate:
    Crapo-Idaho
    Reid-Nevada
    Smith-Oregon
    Hatch-Utah
    Bennett-Utah

    I don’t know about the governors.

    Has Romney’s father ever said the chuch was wrong?
    Has Romeny ever said the church was wrong?

    Senator Bryd has often said that he was WRONG to have been in the KKK. So some politicians actually do say they made mistakes in the past.

    The only possibilities for the LDS church is either
    1) they were wrong in the past and they corrected their mistake
    2) They were right in the past and wrong today
    3) They were right in the past and right today because something changed that required them to change too.
    4) They were wrong in the past and wrong today because something changed and they made another mistake.

    I think the proper answer is that they were wrong in the past and they corrected their mistake. however, I am not sure the church ever said as much.

    Am I nuts???

  • But did he claim to have invented the Internet? Or did he get a $400 haircut. No? Then it doesn’t matter. This story creates an interesting twist on an old cliche. Who should we believe? Broder or Mitt’s lying eyes? Keep it up, future GOP nominee. Don’t stop being you, whoever that is.

  • Silly article – why not do a little research first – it’s really not that hard…

    GOV. GEORGE ROMNEY AND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.

    FACT: In The Summer Of 1963, Governor Romney Participated In Martin Luther King Jr.’s “Freedom Marches” In Grosse Pointe, Michigan.

    In 1963, George Romney Gave The Keynote Address At The Conference That Sparked The Martin Luther King “Freedom Marches” In Detroit. “The establishment of these human relations groups came in the wake of several major events (besides the embarrassing racist practices of such suburbs as Dearborn), which took place in 1963 and helped galvanize interracial support and cooperation for integrated housing. The first event was the Metropolitan Conference on Open Occupancy held in Detroit in January 1963. The second event was the Martin Luther King ‘Freedom’ March in June of the same year, the spinoffs of which were several Detroit NAACP-sponsored interracial marches into Detroit suburbs to dramatize the need for black housing. … Governor George Romney gave the keynote speech at this conference, in which he pledged to use the power of the state to achieve housing equality in Michigan.” (Joe T. Darden, Detroit, Race And Uneven Development, 1987, p. 132)

    Governor Romney Marched In July 1963 In An NAACP-Sponsored March Through Grosse Pointe. “The next couple of NAACP marches into the suburbs were more pleasant. Both Grosse Pointe and Royal Oak Township welcomed the interracial marchers. Close to 500 black and white marchers, including many Grosse Pointers, marched in ‘the Pointes’ that July. Governor George Romney made a surprise appearance in his shirt sleeves and joined the parade leaders.” (Joe T. Darden, Detroit, Race And Uneven Development, 1987, p. 132)

    · Detroit Free Press: “With Gov. Romney a surprise arrival and marching in the front row, more than 500 Negroes and whites staged a peaceful antidiscrimination parade up Grosse Pointe’s Kercheval Avenue Saturday. … ‘the elimination of human inequalities and injustices is our urgent and critical domestic problem,’ the governor said. … [Detroit NAACP President Edward M.] Turner told reporters, ‘I think it is very significant that Governor Romney is here. We are very surprised.’ Romney said, ‘If they want me to lead the parade, I’ll be glad to.’” (”Romney Joins Protest March Of 500 In Grosse Pointe,” Detroit Free Press, 6/29/63)

    · In Their 1967 Book, Stephen Hess And David Broder Wrote That George Romney “Marched With Martin Luther King Through The Exclusive Grosse Point Suburb Of Detroit.” “He has marched with Martin Luther King through the exclusive Grosse Pointe suburb of Detroit and he is on record in support of full-coverage Federal open-housing legislation.” (Stephen Hess And David Broder, The Republican Establishment: The Present And Future Of The G.O.P., 1967, p. 107)

    FACT: As Governor Of Michigan, George Romney Fought For Civil Rights And Marched In Support Of Martin Luther King Jr.

    George Romney Was A Strong Proponent Of Civil Rights And Created Michigan’s First Civil Rights Commission. “The governor’s record was one of supporting civil rights. He helped create the state’s first civil rights commission and marched at the head of a protest parade in Detroit days after violence against civil rights marchers in Selma, Ala., in 1965.” (Todd Sprangler, “Romney Fields Questions On King,” Detroit Free Press, 12/20/07)

    In 1967, George Romney Was Praised At A National Civil Rights Rally For His Leadership. “Michigan Gov. George Romney walked into a Negro Civil Rights rally in the heart of Atlanta to the chants of ‘We Want Romney’ and to hear protests from Negroes about city schools. ‘They had invited me to come and I was interested in hearing things that would give me an insight into Atlanta,’ the Michigan Republican said. Led by Hosea Williams, a top aide to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the all-Negro rally broke into shouts and song when Romney arrived. ‘We’re tired of Lyndon Baines Johnson,’ Williams said from a pulpit in the Flipper Temple AME Church as Romney sat in a front row pew. ‘Johnson is sending black boys to Vietnam to die for a freedom that never existed,’ Williams said. Pointing to Romney, Williams brought the crowd of 200 to its feet when he said, ‘He may be the fella with a little backbone.’ Williams said Romney could be ‘the next President if he acts right.’ The potential GOP presidential nominee left the rally before it ended.” (”Romney Praised At Civil Rights Rally In Atlanta,” The Chicago Defender, 9/30/67)

    Photograph: “Dr. Martin Luther King speaking to graduate student Laura L. Leichliter (center) and Michigan’s First Lady Mrs. Lenore Romney in February 1965.” (Instructional Media Center Collection At Michigan State University Archives And Historical Collections)

    George Romney Fought Discrimination In Housing. “President Nixon tapped then Governor of Michigan, George Romney, for the post of Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. While serving as Governor, Secretary Romney had successfully campaigned for ratification of a state constitutional provision that prohibited discrimination in housing.” (U.S. Department Of Housing And Urban Development Official Web Site, http://www.hud.gov, Accessed 12/19/07)

    Photograph: “More than 100 angry white protesters balked at efforts by then-Housing Secretary George Romney, in car, to open their new neighborhoods to blacks.” (Gordon Trowbridge and Oralandar Brand-Williams, “A Policy Of Exclusion,” Detroit News, 1/14/02)

    FACT: In 1965, George Romney Led A March In Michigan To Protest Selma.

    In 1965, George Romney Led A Protest Parade Of Some 10,000 People In Detroit. “Rarely has public opinion reacted so spontaneously and with such fury. In Detroit, Mayor Jerome Cavanaugh and Michigan’s Governor George Romney led a protest parade of 10,000 people.” (”Civil Rights – The Central Point,” Time Magazine, http://www.time.com, 10/5/83)

    · The Days Of Martin Luther King, Jr.: “In Detroit, Governor George Romney and Mayor Jerome Cavanaugh called for a march to protest what had happened in Selma.” (Jim Bishop, The Days Of Martin Luther King, Jr., 1971, p. 385)

    FACT: Martin Luther King Jr. “Spoke Positively” About The Possible Presidential Candidacy Of George Romney.

    In His Pulitzer-Prize Winning Biography Of Dr. King, David Garrow Notes That King “Spoke Positively” About The Possible Presidential Candidacy Of George Romney. “King spoke positively about the possible candidacies of republicans George Romney, Charles Percy, and Nelson Rockefeller. He also stressed the need for greater Afro-American unity, including reaching out to segments of the black community that were not committed to nonviolence.” (David J. Garrow, Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, 2006, p. 575)

    FACT: George Romney Attended King’s Funeral In 1968.

    George Romney Attended King’s Funeral In 1968. “Vice President Hubert Humphrey represented the White House. Senator and Mrs. Robert F. Kennedy; Mrs. John F. Kennedy; Governor and Mrs. Nelson Rockefeller of New York; the mayor of New York City, John V Lindsay; and Michigan’s governor, George Romney, were present.” (Octavia Vivian, Coretta: The Story of Coretta Scott King, 2006, p. 99)

    · George Romney Joined Other Prominent Americans In Attending King’s Funeral. “Inside was the greatest galaxy of prominent national figures there had ever been in Atlanta at one time: Robert Kennedy, George Romney, Mayor Carl Stokes of Cleveland, Nixon, Rockefeller, Harry Belafonte, and an endless array of others equally as famous. Coretta Scott King, sitting with her family front and center in front of the casket, looked lovely and courageous and dignified in a black mourning veil.” (Franklin Miller Garrett, Atlanta and Environs: A Chronicle of Its People and Events, 1987, p. 517)

    · After King’s Assassination, George Romney Declared An Official Period Of Mourning, Ordered All Flags To Be Flown At Half Staff And Said King’s Death Was “A Great National Tragedy.” “On April 4, 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated as he stood on a motel balcony in Memphis, Tenn., where he had gone to lead a civil rights march. The following day, Michigan Gov. George Romney declared an official period of mourning for King. The period extended through King’s funeral. Romney ordered all flags on public buildings to be flown at half staff and asked that the same be done on private buildings. Gov. Romney, in an official statement, said: “The assassination of Martin Luther King is a great national tragedy. At a time when we need aggressive nonviolent leadership to peacefully achieve equal rights, equal opportunities and equal responsibilities for all, his leadership will be grievously missed.” (”Rearview Mirror: Detroit Reacts To King’s Assassination,” The Detroit News, 4/4/07)

  • marched together in June, 1963 — although possibly not on the same day or in the same city.

    Wow, i need a new dictionary. I clearly don’t know what the word “together” means. I thought it might require the same day or same city. Silly me.

  • As time passes and Willard Mitt Romney continues exposing himself to public examination, it appears more and more as if he is a pathological liar who lies when it’s not even necessary.

    Politics and show business both hold strong attractions for narcissistic personalities who seem peculiarly susceptible to the allure of self-enhancement through the telling of outrageous untruths about themselves. Mitt, or Willard, or whatever he’s calling himself this week, is a poster boy for the type.

  • With Rev. Huckaberry using God like Karl Rove told him, now Mitt thinks Blacks and Whites are so stupid he can lie about Martin Luther King March. After acting as if Blacks are nothing now he wants to tell a lie about how his father marched with Dr. King. There are more holds in the story then Swiss cheese. Why now is that important. He treats blacks like dirt and wont even go to a debate and now he’s a brother. If a black person came near Mitt he would act like George W. Bush. Now as for a Black woman well Mitt would use his bible teachings and think he’s King Solomon. Time for Mitt to look for another angle, maybe saying he’s related to Fredrick Douglas or at lease met him.

  • Even if true, why would the late George Romney want to march with the trouble making neo-communist MLK anyway?

  • I would suggest that Jeff contact Romney’s campaign about a job as the replacement spokesman.

  • Religious people are confusing. If a religion violates your core beliefs, why are you still a member at the age of 31? Every time religion is exposed to be wrong on the facts, the religious find ways to accomodate. If religion is the word of god why would it ever have to change? the truth is, it wouldn’t. but religion is man made myth and myth is always exposed for what it is. But myth believers need their myth in any form. they cannot let go of everything…humans would be better off to accept reality and not imaginary friends.

  • jeff needs to get his “proof” to romney asap. Aparently they do no know about his “facts.”

  • Romney: When I said my father “marched” with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., I meant he marched with him in the spiritual sense — from the comfort, and security, of his separatist Mormon digs.

  • Romney: When I said my father “marched” with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., I meant he hired some negroes once to haul some garbage for him.

  • Romney: They had their green cards, of that I’m certain. My father was very particular about not hiring wetbacks.

  • Its clear perpetuating gossip lives. People formulating opinions, then parroting here without doing the homework. This gossip…. Romney’s remarks about His father, is silly and shows the ignorance in the remarks here.

  • Religious whackjobs from religions that wear secret magic underwear should NOT be president of the United States.

  • amcmaster: What’s silly is your sense of indignation at others’ senses of indignation. Romney is a candidate for the Presidency. The fact that he is and was a member of a church that barred African Americans from its roster as late as 1978 is reprehensible and needs to be addressed. In 1978, Mitt Romney was, as they say, a “grown-assed man” and was responsible for the decisions he made at the time. Racist acquiescence is disturbing, especially when it comes from the son of a former Presidential candidate who is now himself a candidate for the Presidency. Romney’s “I have a black friend who. . .” falsehoods are cause for concern: they do not address the issue of why this man would be a part of a clearly racist organization. So to your indignation, I say simply “stick it up your ass.” Concerns regarding Romney’s adult-life participation in a racist religion are valid concerns and only someone who shares those racist attitudes would see otherwise.

  • A lot of sour grapes by uninformed hacks….

    FACT: In The Summer Of 1963, Governor Romney Participated In Martin Luther King Jr.’s “Freedom Marches” In Grosse Pointe, Michigan.

    In 1963, George Romney Gave The Keynote Address At The Conference That Sparked The Martin Luther King “Freedom Marches” In Detroit. “The establishment of these human relations groups came in the wake of several major events (besides the embarrassing racist practices of such suburbs as Dearborn), which took place in 1963 and helped galvanize interracial support and cooperation for integrated housing. The first event was the Metropolitan Conference on Open Occupancy held in Detroit in January 1963. The second event was the Martin Luther King ‘Freedom’ March in June of the same year, the spinoffs of which were several Detroit NAACP-sponsored interracial marches into Detroit suburbs to dramatize the need for black housing. … Governor George Romney gave the keynote speech at this conference, in which he pledged to use the power of the state to achieve housing equality in Michigan.” (Joe T. Darden, Detroit, Race And Uneven Development, 1987, p. 132)

    Governor Romney Marched In July 1963 In An NAACP-Sponsored March Through Grosse Pointe. “The next couple of NAACP marches into the suburbs were more pleasant. Both Grosse Pointe and Royal Oak Township welcomed the interracial marchers. Close to 500 black and white marchers, including many Grosse Pointers, marched in ‘the Pointes’ that July. Governor George Romney made a surprise appearance in his shirt sleeves and joined the parade leaders.” (Joe T. Darden, Detroit, Race And Uneven Development, 1987, p. 132)

    · Detroit Free Press: “With Gov. Romney a surprise arrival and marching in the front row, more than 500 Negroes and whites staged a peaceful antidiscrimination parade up Grosse Pointe’s Kercheval Avenue Saturday. … ‘the elimination of human inequalities and injustices is our urgent and critical domestic problem,’ the governor said. … [Detroit NAACP President Edward M.] Turner told reporters, ‘I think it is very significant that Governor Romney is here. We are very surprised.’ Romney said, ‘If they want me to lead the parade, I’ll be glad to.'” (“Romney Joins Protest March Of 500 In Grosse Pointe,” Detroit Free Press, 6/29/63)

    · In Their 1967 Book, Stephen Hess And David Broder Wrote That George Romney “Marched With Martin Luther King Through The Exclusive Grosse Point Suburb Of Detroit.” “He has marched with Martin Luther King through the exclusive Grosse Pointe suburb of Detroit and he is on record in support of full-coverage Federal open-housing legislation.” (Stephen Hess And David Broder, The Republican Establishment: The Present And Future Of The G.O.P., 1967, p. 107)

    FACT: As Governor Of Michigan, George Romney Fought For Civil Rights And Marched In Support Of Martin Luther King Jr.

    George Romney Was A Strong Proponent Of Civil Rights And Created Michigan’s First Civil Rights Commission. “The governor’s record was one of supporting civil rights. He helped create the state’s first civil rights commission and marched at the head of a protest parade in Detroit days after violence against civil rights marchers in Selma, Ala., in 1965.” (Todd Sprangler, “Romney Fields Questions On King,” Detroit Free Press, 12/20/07)

    In 1967, George Romney Was Praised At A National Civil Rights Rally For His Leadership. “Michigan Gov. George Romney walked into a Negro Civil Rights rally in the heart of Atlanta to the chants of ‘We Want Romney’ and to hear protests from Negroes about city schools. ‘They had invited me to come and I was interested in hearing things that would give me an insight into Atlanta,’ the Michigan Republican said. Led by Hosea Williams, a top aide to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the all-Negro rally broke into shouts and song when Romney arrived. ‘We’re tired of Lyndon Baines Johnson,’ Williams said from a pulpit in the Flipper Temple AME Church as Romney sat in a front row pew. ‘Johnson is sending black boys to Vietnam to die for a freedom that never existed,’ Williams said. Pointing to Romney, Williams brought the crowd of 200 to its feet when he said, ‘He may be the fella with a little backbone.’ Williams said Romney could be ‘the next President if he acts right.’ The potential GOP presidential nominee left the rally before it ended.” (“Romney Praised At Civil Rights Rally In Atlanta,” The Chicago Defender, 9/30/67)

    Photograph: “Dr. Martin Luther King speaking to graduate student Laura L. Leichliter (center) and Michigan’s First Lady Mrs. Lenore Romney in February 1965.” (Instructional Media Center Collection At Michigan State University Archives And Historical Collections)

    George Romney Fought Discrimination In Housing. “President Nixon tapped then Governor of Michigan, George Romney, for the post of Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. While serving as Governor, Secretary Romney had successfully campaigned for ratification of a state constitutional provision that prohibited discrimination in housing.” (U.S. Department Of Housing And Urban Development Official Web Site, http://www.hud.gov, Accessed 12/19/07)

    Photograph: “More than 100 angry white protesters balked at efforts by then-Housing Secretary George Romney, in car, to open their new neighborhoods to blacks.” (Gordon Trowbridge and Oralandar Brand-Williams, “A Policy Of Exclusion,” Detroit News, 1/14/02)

    FACT: In 1965, George Romney Led A March In Michigan To Protest Selma.

    In 1965, George Romney Led A Protest Parade Of Some 10,000 People In Detroit. “Rarely has public opinion reacted so spontaneously and with such fury. In Detroit, Mayor Jerome Cavanaugh and Michigan’s Governor George Romney led a protest parade of 10,000 people.” (“Civil Rights – The Central Point,” Time Magazine, http://www.time.com, 10/5/83)

    · The Days Of Martin Luther King, Jr.: “In Detroit, Governor George Romney and Mayor Jerome Cavanaugh called for a march to protest what had happened in Selma.” (Jim Bishop, The Days Of Martin Luther King, Jr., 1971, p. 385)

    FACT: Martin Luther King Jr. “Spoke Positively” About The Possible Presidential Candidacy Of George Romney.

    In His Pulitzer-Prize Winning Biography Of Dr. King, David Garrow Notes That King “Spoke Positively” About The Possible Presidential Candidacy Of George Romney. “King spoke positively about the possible candidacies of republicans George Romney, Charles Percy, and Nelson Rockefeller. He also stressed the need for greater Afro-American unity, including reaching out to segments of the black community that were not committed to nonviolence.” (David J. Garrow, Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, 2006, p. 575)

    FACT: George Romney Attended King’s Funeral In 1968.

    George Romney Attended King’s Funeral In 1968. “Vice President Hubert Humphrey represented the White House. Senator and Mrs. Robert F. Kennedy; Mrs. John F. Kennedy; Governor and Mrs. Nelson Rockefeller of New York; the mayor of New York City, John V Lindsay; and Michigan’s governor, George Romney, were present.” (Octavia Vivian, Coretta: The Story of Coretta Scott King, 2006, p. 99)

    · George Romney Joined Other Prominent Americans In Attending King’s Funeral. “Inside was the greatest galaxy of prominent national figures there had ever been in Atlanta at one time: Robert Kennedy, George Romney, Mayor Carl Stokes of Cleveland, Nixon, Rockefeller, Harry Belafonte, and an endless array of others equally as famous. Coretta Scott King, sitting with her family front and center in front of the casket, looked lovely and courageous and dignified in a black mourning veil.” (Franklin Miller Garrett, Atlanta and Environs: A Chronicle of Its People and Events, 1987, p. 517)

    · After King’s Assassination, George Romney Declared An Official Period Of Mourning, Ordered All Flags To Be Flown At Half Staff And Said King’s Death Was “A Great National Tragedy.” “On April 4, 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated as he stood on a motel balcony in Memphis, Tenn., where he had gone to lead a civil rights march. The following day, Michigan Gov. George Romney declared an official period of mourning for King. The period extended through King’s funeral. Romney ordered all flags on public buildings to be flown at half staff and asked that the same be done on private buildings. Gov. Romney, in an official statement, said: “The assassination of Martin Luther King is a great national tragedy. At a time when we need aggressive nonviolent leadership to peacefully achieve equal rights, equal opportunities and equal responsibilities for all, his leadership will be grievously missed.” (“Rearview Mirror: Detroit Reacts To King’s Assassination,” The Detroit News, 4/4/07)

  • S. Halvert…it’s sad you need to repeat the record which Jeff posted. J. Lewd has some problems with reality Or, if Mr. Lewd has not read the record posted above my apologies.

  • (”Rearview Mirror: Detroit Reacts To King’s Assassination,” The Detroit News, 4/4/07)
    Franklin Miller Garrett, Atlanta and Environs: A Chronicle of Its People and Events, 1987, p. 517)
    Octavia Vivian, Coretta: The Story of Coretta Scott King, 2006, p. 99)
    (David J. Garrow, Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, 2006, p. 575)
    Jim Bishop, The Days Of Martin Luther King, Jr., 1971, p. 385)
    (”Civil Rights – The Central Point,” Time Magazine, http://www.time.com, 10/5/83)

    (Gordon Trowbridge and Oralandar Brand-Williams, “A Policy Of Exclusion,” Detroit News, 1/14/02)
    (U.S. Department Of Housing And Urban Development Official Web Site, http://www.hud.gov, Accessed 12/19/07)
    (Instructional Media Center Collection At Michigan State University Archives And Historical Collections)
    (”Romney Praised At Civil Rights Rally In Atlanta,” The Chicago Defender, 9/30/67)
    (Todd Sprangler, “Romney Fields Questions On King,” Detroit Free Press, 12/20/07)
    (Stephen Hess And David Broder, The Republican Establishment: The Present And Future Of The G.O.P., 1967, p. 107)
    ”Romney Joins Protest March Of 500 In Grosse Pointe,” Detroit Free Press, 6/29/63)
    Joe T. Darden, Detroit, Race And Uneven Development, 1987, p. 132)

    (Joe T. Darden, Detroit, Race And Uneven Development, 1987, p. 132)

    Lies eh?

  • So good to see yet another corrupt, lying, traitorous politician nailed to the wall. Thanks to his pandering BS, he should have the luck of a snowball in hell at attaining the Presidency.

    VOTE RON PAUL!

  • What You just said is pandering BS George. Did you see George Romney in the Historical records, News articles, videos from the time? I saw them. Gee…. i am a liar! Tell the freakin truth partisan or not. Be honest. You sound no better then the beliefs you dislike.

  • To all the fans and supporters of Mittens, I pose the following query:

    Is it the intention of your candidate to promote the actions of another as his own?

    As has been cited in earlier posts to this specific discussion, the candidate in question has stated, on more than one occasion, that he “saw” his father do a specific thing. This has been proven an intentionally-false statement, due to the candidate’s having been engaged in a cloistered missionary program on the opposite side of the Atlantic Ocean during the time now referred to.

    An intentionally-false statement, regardless of nuance, is a lie.

    If, as these now-present supporters of Mr. Romney would have us believe, their candidate has every right to credit himself for the actions of another—actions to which the candidate had no part, either active or passive—then it must be equally legitimate for others to hold that candidate responsible for actions committed by others, likewise to which the candidate gave neither active or passive participation.

    Simply put—if the candidate can take credit for his father’s actions in Michigan, while the candidate was off on a glorified camping trip in France, then I can legitimately blame the candidate for the factually-documented commission of multiple acts of fraud and embezzlement against the citizens of Kirtland, Ohio via an “anti-banking scheme” by LDS founder Joseph Smith in the 19th century….

  • 1978 the LDS accepts blacks as full members of the church. Before that they were considered a notch below humans and above regular animals. Those blacks they accept as full members of the church are black “MEN”. Black women (all women in fact, regardless of color), still do not have full membership and are discriminated against in the church. Why isn’t anyone questioning him on that?

    There are interviews with his wife and Romney when he was running for Governor of Massachusetts during which when she was asked a question he would shush her and answer for her. He had a female Lt. Governor, and when he was around she had to be quiet and couldn’t answer questions. If he’s the nominee, can’t wait to see those videos.

    He got into the gubernatorial race by pushing out the female Republican Governor of Massachusetts at the time, even though he lived in Utah. At least, until he ran in which case he had been a fulltime citizen of Massachusetts all this time. Then he ran into trouble because on his tax returns in which he took tax deductions for his house in Utah as his main residence and as a citizen of Utah (where he had voted for years). So, he really didn’t qualify to run in Massachusetts. But, lied under oath about where his actual residence had been.

    Lots of unsavory information came out about his venture capital company, too, when he ran for Governor. As the primaries heat up I expect you’ll see all of his questionable business dealings exposed.

    BTW his campaign touts the fact he “ran a state (Massachusetts).” Yeah, ran it into the ground. Didn’t run for reelection because his approval rating was 19% and he would have lost bigtime.

  • The public record from 1967 says he marched:

    “When the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King marched in Detroit three years ago, Romney marched with him. He is proud that he helped write a state constitution that has the most comprehensive civil-rights guarantees in the nation, including open occupancy in housing.”

    Harper’s Magazine reference without a subscription:

    http://www.harpers.org/search?q=romney+martin+luther+king+march+

  • Romney’s ads are filled with LIES—and he is showing how easy it is for him to lie to the American people. It is about Romney’s dishonesty. If he can’t be honest in his commercials and interviews, how can we trust him with our country?

    A politician who is willing to lie recklessly about minor matters is unlikely to hesitate when a lie would be useful in dealing with a major problem. Thus Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney’s dishonest claims about his status as “a hunter” are as troubling as they were stupid…and they were very stupid. http://www.ethicsscoreboard.com/liars/0704_romney.html

    Romney is WEAK ON IMMIGRATION and hired illegal aliens himself twice, even though he is rich and could afford to hire American citizens.

    Romney says he marched with his father in a Martin Luther King march, but now he says that wasn’t the truth. That he was endorsed by the NRA and he’s a lifelong hunter, but now he says, well he’s been hunting twice for rabbits and never received the NRA’s endorsement.

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