O’Hanlon goes after Obama, flubs another test

The Brookings Institution’s Michael O’Hanlon, a supporter of Bush’s Iraq policy who was advising Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, has been wrong about the war pretty consistently since, well, the beginning. But that doesn’t seem to stop him from weighing in on the issue at every available opportunity.

In his latest salvo, O’Hanlon takes on Barack Obama’s opposition to the war in a Wall Street Journal piece yesterday. O’Hanlon accuses Obama of not being “inclusive” enough, because he rejects the pro-war arguments of people like O’Hanlon.

[Obama] seems contemptuous of the motivations of those who supported the war. While showing proper respect for the heroic efforts of our troops, he displays little regard for the views of those many Americans who saw the case for war in the first place — even as he has called for a more civil and respectful political debate.

This is unfortunate. Saddam Hussein was one of the worst and most dangerous dictators of the late 20th century. The basic proposition of unseating him was hardly an unconscionable idea, even if President Bush’s approach to doing so was unilateralist, arrogant and careless. With our last image of Saddam a resigned figure heading for the gallows, it is easy to forget who this monster was.

He had used chemical weapons against his own defenseless people, as well as the armies of Iran; he violated 17 U.N. Security Council resolutions that demanded his verifiable disarmament; he had the blood of perhaps one million people on his hands; he transformed his country into what Iraqi dissident Kanan Makiya famously called the “republic of fear.” (Saddam’s behavior didn’t improve when we tried the kind of high-level diplomacy Mr. Obama favors by sending envoys like Donald Rumsfeld and April Glaspie.)

Saddam’s worst may have been behind him by 2003 — but he was grooming his sadistic sons Uday and Qusay as successors with unknowable consequences. His WMD programs were in limbo, we now know. But before the war even German intelligence thought him only half a dozen years from a nuclear weapon.

O’Hanlon concludes that Obama should consider “non-ideological, nonpartisan wisdom,” which presumably would lead the senator to agree with O’Hanlon.

This is all wildly unpersuasive.

O’Hanlon’s central beef seems to be that Obama should be nicer to people like O’Hanlon and other war supporters who were wrong. Why? Because Saddam Hussein was an awful, brutal thug.

Look, it’s 2008. This argument is over. It’s been over for quite a while. Re-litigating the now-obvious mistake of invading Iraq is more than just silly, it’s useless. O’Hanlon still wants to debate how close Saddam was to get nuclear weapons? Now?

Brian Katulis added:

O’Hanlon offers up a thinly-veiled defense for analysts like himself who offered tragically wrong advice in the war in March 2003 — O’Hanlon cannot seem to face up to the fact that he lined up on the wrong side of the arguments on Iraq, and America has suffered serious damage to its national security as a result.

O’Hanlon argued against the war at certain points in 2002 and even outlined a long list of preconditions before going to war in a policy paper he co-published called “Getting Serious About Iraq” (most of these conditions were not met). But then he forgot many of his own arguments and naively accepted the information and arguments presented by the Bush administration on the eve of the war. (He said about Bush’s case for war in the 2003 State of the Union address the president was “convincing on his central point that the time of war is near.”)

It may be that people are contemptuous of those who posture and profess to offer expertise on the right path forward on Iraq like O’Hanlon does, even though their track record is awful. In most professions, there are consequences for bad performance. Doctors face the threat of medical malpractice suits; policy analysts like O’Hanlon get to make mistakes again and again with impunity, as do journalists who quote him and publish his pieces.

If there’s a silver lining to this, it’s the realization that should Obama win the presidential race in November, there’s no way on earth he’ll hire O’Hanlon for a job in the administration.

Thank goodness for that. How this subhuman has any employment at all in a position outside of a wingnut welfare position is beyond me.

I gotta get me one of those positions where I can be wrong all the time and still not have to worry about repercussions and accountability.

  • Yeah, but remember – O’Hanlon’s talking about the candidate who thinks we should stop engaging in the partisan food fight, the one who has backed up his anti-war rhetoric with vote after vote for war funding – why wouldn’t O’Hanlon think there is a better than even chance that Obama would bite on this?

  • [Obama] seems contemptuous of the motivations of those who supported the war. While showing proper respect for the heroic efforts of our troops, he displays little regard for the views of those many Americans who saw the case for war in the first place

    The best argument I’ve seen for supporting Obama yet. Thanks Michael O’Hanlon for putting it so succinctly! Because those two sentences sum up my exact feelings towards the wrd – respect for the troops that our idiot leaders have put into harms way and contempt for those leaders and their advisors who put them into harms way.

    O’Hanlon on Clinton’s team is just more evidence to show that she has no freaking clue just how much March 18, 2003 really did change everything.

  • The mist that is Mikey O’Hanlon’s credibility will evaporate like the morning fog once the Obama presidency commences. He knows this, and this absolute disjunction from reality—his timid screed—only illuminates the fact that he’s quaking in his boots.

    Be afraid, Mikey—be very afraid….

  • (Saddam’s behavior didn’t improve when we tried the kind of high-level diplomacy Mr. Obama favors by sending envoys like Donald Rumsfeld and April Glaspie.)

    This sort of nonsense by an idiot like O’hanlon keeps my wife amused as I shout out loud a rebuttal at the radio, or television, or (in this case) the computer.

    Donald Rumsfeld was sent by St. Ronald to reassure Sadaam, who was lobbing chemical-tipped missiles into Iran, that in spite of international pressure the U.S. would not actually do anything about this, so Saddam should just ignore Reagan’s public protestations.

    What the Hell is Clinton thinking, having this moron as an advisor? Clearly, she still doesn’t really understand how badly she screwed up by supporting the Iraq war resolution. Of course, with her support the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, we already knew that.

  • “…little regard for the views of those many Americans who saw the case for war in the first place.”

    Um, because they were wrong? Their views were either delusional or the disingenuous pushing of an agenda. In the end the case for war was summed up in the Ledeen Doctrine:

    Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.

    In a just world, the views of those many Americans who saw the case for war in the first place would be met with contempt in most cases with criminal prosecution reserved for the leaders.

  • Obama wins the O’Hanlon primary!!! Yay!

    (definition: “O’Hanlon primary: If O’Hanlon criticizes a candidate’s forign policy judgement, that candidate will experience an immediate bump in the polls”)

    BTW I love the fact that the following foreign policy experts have endorsed Obama:

    Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Adviser under President Carter
    Mr. Brian Katulis, Author and Middle East expert
    Dr. Joseph Cirincione, Author and Nonproliferation Expert
    Mr. Larry Korb, former Assistant Secretary of Defense

    I have read policy papers by all of the above, and very much agree with their foreign policy way of thinking. The only question is will Obama listen to them as I hope he would…

  • I gotta get me one of those positions where I can be wrong all the time and still not have to worry about repercussions and accountability. – bubba

    You’ve got to move quickly to snatch up a position like that. The last one available was just taken by Kristol on the NYT editiorial page.

  • “…high-level diplomacy Mr. Obama favors by sending envoys like Donald Rumsfeld…”

    hahahahahahahahahhahahaha!

  • “While showing proper respect for the heroic efforts of our troops, he displays little regard for the views of those many Americans who saw the case for war in the first place…”

    In other words, if it weren’t for George Bush’s misguided war, none of those heroic troops would be heroes! (Unless, say, they were committed to Afghanistan.)

    “The basic proposition of unseating him was hardly an unconscionable idea, even if President Bush’s approach to doing so was unilateralist, arrogant and careless.”

    At least he acknowledges the obvious, the obvious, and the obvious. The question about unseating Saddam wasn’t whether it should be done, but when and how. The correct answers were: not while we’re fighting in Afghanistan and not without sufficient force to do the job right. Bush got those answers wrong, which is why he was “arrogant and careless.”

    But the crux of O’Hanlon’s argument, which CB identifies, is accusing Obama of not being “civil and respectful” by ignoring those who are consistently wrong. It’s true that Obama wants to be the president of all Americans, but that doesn’t mean he has to commit himself to every dumbass policy.

  • Grumpy writes:
    “But the crux of O’Hanlon’s argument, which CB identifies, is accusing Obama of not being “civil and respectful” by ignoring those who are consistently wrong. It’s true that Obama wants to be the president of all Americans, but that doesn’t mean he has to commit himself to every dumbass policy.”

    Makes sense to me. Is it fair and balanced when you are forced to listen to idiots?

  • “Contemptuous of the motivations”?

    Gosh, poor Michael sure sounds like that hurts his feelings… I’m sure he’ll be rushing off next to wag his finger at his rightwing buddies who have been constantly shrieking for the last 5 years about “liberal antiwar traitors”.

  • If there’s a silver lining to this, it’s the realization that should Obama win the presidential race in November, there’s no way on earth he’ll hire O’Hanlon for a job in the administration.

    Over the weekend, I read this Nation article about the respective foreign policy advisers to Clinton, Obama, and Edwards, and it really made me feel there’s a significant difference between Obama and Clinton, in Obama’s favor. The message from Hillary’s advisers (O’Hanlon and Richard Holbrooke in particular)seems to be liberal hawkishness: Come on, let’s not go wobbly! I’ll vote for her over a Republican, but I don’t trust her on this.

  • The Brookings Institution’s Michael O’Hanlon, a supporter of Bush’s Iraq policy who was advising Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign….

    Reminds me of her early moniker: Bush Lite.

    So was Madam Chill against the war or for it?
    Or for it before she was against it?
    I realize she says she never would have led us into the quick sand…
    But was happy to vote to allow Bush to lead us so…

    I’m confused…

    Can someone square the hypotenuse of her inner LBJ for me?

    I’ll take my answer off the air…
    In the meanwhile I will leave you with this:

    Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski is one of the smartest and clearest thinking people on this planet.
    He is in Obama’s corner.
    That fact alone is reason to select Barry O.

  • ***…Bush Lite….***

    Just in time for my morning snack (a nice bit of extra-sharp Wisconsin cheddar on the last of this morning’s baking-powder biscuits), ROTFLMAO invokes the only substance ever produced in the universe that could make “Billy Beer” seem palatable….

  • Hillary’s campaign is imploding.

    I thought it would take longer than this, but it won’t be long before everyone is running for their lifeboats now.

    The last thing she needs is one of her pro-war advisers putting his foot in his mouth after she compares herself on Fox News to LBJ.

    It just really highlight how much she doesn’t get it and how out of touch with the electorate she really is. She’s just played directly into Obama’s narrative about ‘Washington Insiders.’

  • Bubba (Re #1) – Accepting WingNut Welfare
    What price would you put on your soul? If not that, how could you handle approving of, and cheering on the continued slaughter of your fellow humans, and the degradation of America?
    Well, you couldn’t, or else you’d be doing it already.
    Thanks for being one of us “good guys.”

    Now, how can we punish the pimps of this intellectual prostitution?

  • There goes O’Hanlon again trying to hide behind the glory of the military like a child behind him mom’s skirt. O’Hanlon’s central premise is that folks that send troops off to die deserve the same heroic cachet as those sent to do the fighting. What crap. Just like Nonynony said, how can you not like Obama more if an always wrong twit like O’Hanlon criticizes him?

    And O’Hanlon’s description of the devil Hussein sure could apply to Bush as well: used torture on his own people as well as the Iraqi army, violated U.N. resolutions, has the blood of millions on his hands and turned his own nation in a “republic of fear.”

  • Thank you Dennis – SGMM for reminding us about “the Ledeen Doctrine” (Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.)

    I have a better idea: Maybe every ten years or so we should boil some pundits in oil for being so wrong so often, just to show them we mean business.

    Seriously, these people are still being asked for their advice, after advocating war crimes. Anyone who hires them should be ashamed, and I doubt if Hillary is ashamed of hiring O’Hanlon.

    For those who doubt O’Hanlon’s douchebag status, please see this excellent article by Glenn Greenwald:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/12/ohanlon/index.html

    Throughout 2003 and into 2004, O’Hanlon supported not only the war, but also Bush and Rumsfeld’s occupation strategy. And while he began to argue — just as did Bill Kristol and his neoconservative comrades — that improvements were needed in Iraq due to the need for more troops, there was never a point, and there still is none, where O’Hanlon argued for withdrawal of troops or a timetable for withdrawal (though in 2004, he argued for a decrease in troop numbers). Then, in 2005, he argued for troop increases. At the beginning of this year, O’Hanlon (and Pollack) supported George Bush’s and Fred Kagan’s Surge plan.

  • “…high-level diplomacy Mr. Obama favors by sending envoys like Donald Rumsfeld…”

    An original PNACer! (http://www.newamericancentury.org) Along with Elliott Abrams, Richard L. Armitage, William J. Bennett, Jeffrey Bergner, John Bolton, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Robert Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Peter W. Rodman, William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, and Robert B. Zoellick. Any of these names sound familiar? Let’s not forget Jeb Bush, Casper Weinberger, William F. Buckley, Jeane Kirkpatrick, and good old Scooter. A whole bunch of the most Anti American f()cks that ever lived!

    I will bid a contemptuous adieu to the new American empire. Can we please go back to the old America?

  • it always kills me when the neocons trot out those old tired refrains about saddam killing his own people, etc. etc. when that had nothing to do with posing an imminent threat to the US and the related justifications for going to war.

  • BuzzMon–I didn’t say I would take wingnut welfare, only that I really could use a job that has no accountability and no repercussions for being wrong. Let’s face it, it appears there have been plenty of jobs like that on the Dem side as well…

  • The Brookings Institution’s Michael O’Hanlon, a supporter of Bush’s Iraq policy who was advising Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign

    All the more reason to vote for Obama!

  • O’Hanlon supported Bush even as he disbanded the Iraqi army which began the insurgency. A mistake which got thousands of our troops killed. Yet Anne above is right, why wouldn’t Obama bring this character into his administration. We have to bring all sides together and not exclude them just because they supported war or tax breaks or are against health care for all etc. At what point does Obama say “screw you” and quit trying to pander to those who put this country in this disastrous state. It’s important not only to stand up but to stand against these supporters of the worst administration in the history of our nation.

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