Giuliani still isn’t where he wants to be

As recently as the summer, Rudy Giuliani was leading the field in Michigan’s Republican primary. As recently as early December, a Rasmussen poll showed him within two points of first place.

Yesterday, the former mayor finished a distant sixth, with a pathetic 2.8% of the vote. Consider this: Giuliani not only had well under half of Ron Paul’s support, he finished with a similar vote total to Dennis Kucinich — who was running in an uncontested primary and making no effort to actually win votes. Ouch.

It naturally came as no surprise, then, when I saw this CNN headline: “Romney win may give a boost to Giuliani’s White House bid.” Yes, it appears bad news is good news for Rudy.

Mitt Romney’s win in his native state of Michigan appears to be good news for Rudy Giuliani’s bid for the GOP presidential nomination.

The former New York mayor is spending most of his time and most of his money campaigning in Florida, which votes January 29. The Giuliani campaign’s strategy has been to de-emphasize early votes and instead concentrate on Florida and the coast-to-coast primaries which follow on February 5.

That strategy only has a chance of success if there’s no clear Republican front-runner heading into the Florida primary. Romney’s defeat of Sen. John McCain of Arizona means that three different candidates have now won the first three major contests of the race — leaving the front-runner mantle up for grabs.

Giuliani’s campaign put out a statement Tuesday night congratulating the former Massachusetts governor on his win, adding that “he race remains fluid and competitive, [and] our strategy remains on track.”

Yes, of course, right “on track.” In Iowa, New Hampshire, and Michigan, Giuliani was, at one time, the leading candidate, and yet he nevertheless failed miserably in every contest. All of this is evidence, Giuliani and the media tell us, of a campaign that is right where it wants to be.

Indeed, television viewers apparently heard quite a bit of this very silly spin. Ari Fleischer proclaimed last night that the results in Michigan were “great news for Rudy.” Gloria Borger, a prominent media personality, added that this is “just the scenario he wants.”

Giuliani told Fox News:

“Am I nervous at all? Do I look nervous? (I am) having a great time. This is a strategy we selected — it is the only strategy that can work for us and it’s a good one.”

Let’s see, Giuliani went from first to sixth in Iowa, first to fourth in New Hampshire, and first to sixth in Michigan. He’s tanking in South Carolina, he’s slipping in Florida, he’s losing to McCain in New York, and he’s blown a 26-point lead in New Jersey, where he’s now polling in single digits. All the while, his campaign has so little money that his senior aides aren’t even going to get paid in January. This is a strategy Giuliani and his team “selected” — as if the master plan included a series of humiliating defeats.

Looking at this landscape, the usually-reasonable Chris Cillizza explained yesterday that Giuliani is “still very much in it.”

[W]e can’t help but think the way the GOP nomination fight has played out so far leaves open a scenario whereby Giuliani can still win the nomination. The Fix is not arguing that Giuliani WILL win the nomination; rather, for all of the ink spilled about the decline of Hizzoner’s campaign, there still remains a reasonable path for Giuliani to wind up as the Republican standard-bearer. […]

The truth of the matter is that the fundamentals that Giuliani needed to be in place to have a chance at the nomination remain.

Look, I understand the scenario. There’s no obvious GOP frontrunner, which means all the half-way coherent candidates in the field still have a shot. Presumably, that includes Giuliani, who might even manage to eke out a win in Florida. It’s been a strange year; maybe there’s some merit hiding somewhere in this “strategy.”

But I really doubt it. And seeing the media talk up Giuliani’s chances are constant and repeated failures is getting a little grating.

Newt Gingrich is also expecting a call from the RNC any minute now…

  • “Am I nervous at all? Do I look nervous? (I am) having a great time. This is a strategy we selected — it is the only strategy that can work for us and it’s a good one.”
    Taking a page out of Bush’s Iraq strategy?

  • While not of the same magnitude, this sure sounds a lot like what the Bush campaign said after the contested 2000 election where Gore won the popular vote and Florida was up in the air. Yeah…er…this is exactly the way we planned it.

  • but in order to still be in the running, and have any chance of the strategy working, shouldn’t goulianni have had to have shown a strong showing somewhere? anywhere?

  • I think Guliani took a nice ride with the money that he got with some notion of putting everything in Florida. He took his donors for a ride. Could not have happened to a better bunch of people. The best part is it diluted the donations so that the money did not go to one candidate. The little weasel got to play candidate, live big and rattle on about 9/11 and really do no work. What a crook.

  • Oh come off it … after roundly trouncing Kucinich by 17%, even though Dennis was on another slate in basically a non-election, Rudy has something to crow bout. Sure Ron Paul more than doubled Rudy’s vote total, but Rudy still beat “uncommited,” Tom Tancredo (OK he dropped out a few primaries back, but still), Mike Gravel and even Chris Dodd (he dropped out, too, but still …)

    In honor of Mr. “I’ve got them just where I want them,” I give you the Black Knight –http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno

  • in New Jersey, where he’s now polling in single digits.

    Well, not exactly single digits (that poll has him at 25%). But way, way down. And there’s no way on earth he should even have serious competition in New Jersey.

  • Oh, would that this spin were true! I would love to see Rudy win in Florida. Keep that pot boiling! The longer the Republican candidates have to make obvious to even the most unobservant how divided the party is, the better. Alas, I suspect that Rudy will soon be but a distant memory.

  • from what i heard on a news source yesterday, guiliani is tied for 1st place (with mccain?) in florida, according to polls. he’s frigging been living there and the best he can do is a tie? (‘course, he probably hasn’t ventured out of the south miami beach area, where the ny expats live)

  • Ah, Rudy’s strategy has a shot because he understands and accepts one truth that good government progressives resist believing:

    The political media are morons.

    In any sane, rational world, Rudy would be toast. He has shown no breadth of support, he would be completely out of sight and out of mind, his money would have dried up. But in this insane bizarro world, the media keeps talking about him anyway — and (pretty clever on Rudy’s part) much of what they talk about is his strategy to lose all the early states! And so even as he loses — and chooses not to campaign at all in the state du jour — he still gets covered! Ron Paul, with more money and higher places in the results would love to get as much coverage. Heck, Dodd and Biden might still be in the race if they got a fraction of the coverage Rudy gets.

    So you can’t discount his strategy because the media throw him a lifeline day after day. As long as they show Rudy the love, to borrow a line from Spamalot, he’s “not dead yet.”

    (Having said all of that, he wont win Florida and then his candidacy will, in fact, be dead.)

  • “Am I nervous at all? Do I look nervous? (I am) having a great time. This is a strategy we selected — it is the only strategy that can work for us and it’s a good one.”

    Wait.

    Something is very wrong.

    I feel a disturbance in the force… What is it?

    OMG! Rud!e didn’t mention NinEleven! Surely the end is nigh!!

  • You are so unfair to Rudy

    He beat BOTH President Reagan AND Newt Gingrich

    And one of them is still alive

  • But in this screwy primary season, you can’t rule him out. Lord, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but his strategy just might work in Florida. The fact it’s not a real strategy (he did try to win those early primaries, after all), along with his very poor showings so far, make it look like he still has no chance to win the nomination. But if Thompson wins S.C., it’ll prove that local Republicans don’t care how candidates performed in other states — they just want their guy. It’s almost like there’s an anti-momentum at work. Still, if Mitt, McCain or the Huck win in SC, it’s lights-out for Rudy. The way things are going, I’m kind of pulling for him. Maybe the GOP will end up nominating all of them.

  • “Romney win may give a boost to Giuliani’s White House bid.”

    WTF? Why not wait until votes are actually counted in Florida and then see if Giuliani got a boost or not. Must they waste time with vapid predictions? Isn’t there actual news that needs covering??

  • The end of Il Douche’s political career can’t come soon enough. After 2000 I wouldn’t trust Floridans as far as I could throw the fattest of them, but I’m keeping a good thought they’ll avoid the guy who combines Nixon’s paranoia, Bush’s belligerence and Bill Clinton’s kink libido.

  • About the only chance left for Rudy is if “the terrorists” attack Florida in the next few days. Then he can reprise his role of a lifetime, that of terrorist victim.

    Some would-be leaders think that they show what they are made of in their reaction to a crisis. Real leadership is exercising good judgment and doing the smart thing before a crisis. Like getting good radios for the police and firefighters. Or locating emergency headquarters someplace besides the previously announced location of Ground Zero.

  • I think Giuliani’s strategy would make more sense if there had never been a front-runner in the polls leading up to the start of actual voter participation – but after being the national front-runner, he’s gone from looking like a shoo-in to looking like someone to shoo away.

    It’s been reported that for all he has downplayed the NH results, for example, my understanding is that he spent more time there than any of the GOP contenders – it didn’t translate into votes there, so how is his strategy supposed to work in Florida, especially now that in terms of money, the campaign must be running on fumes?

    And what happens if he doesn’t win Florida? If he loses the state that is supposed to signal the beginning of his march to the nomination, isn’t he pretty much finished?

  • There’s no obvious GOP frontrunner, which means all the half-way coherent candidates in the field still have a shot. Presumably, that includes Giuliani, who might even manage to eke out a win in Florida.
    ..
    And seeing the media talk up Giuliani’s chances are constant and repeated failures is getting a little grating.

    Oh, come now Steve. How do you expect Giulianni to “have a shot” if he ISN’T getting fluffed by the media?

    The media has his candidacy on life support. If he wins in Florida he might just be able to keep his campaign hobbling along and get some delegates. Enough delegates might let him play a “kingmaker” role if the race continues the way it is now.

    Of course, right now Rudy has fewer delegates than Ron Paul. So if his strategy is to broker some kind of VP spot or cabinet position or even a free Slurpee he’d better get crackin’. You need to be able to offer more than 1 delegate to be a “kingmaker” – even in a race this weird.

  • Yeah, “Captain Ed” Morrissey also says Rudy Giuliani’s strategy is proving to be correct. ‘Course this from the guy who claims Fred Thompson will be getting off the pot any day now, so don’t get your hopes up Rudy!

    On the other hand, someone has to win the GOP nomination, if only by losing less badly.

  • Anne said: “[Rudy’s] gone from looking like a shoo-in to looking like someone to shoo away.”

    Oh, Anne, such a delightful way with words 😉

    It will never be too soon to put the stake in the Ghoul’s heart. The only reason he’s even mentioned by Republican’t pundits is to ensure the party is reconciled with the eventual nominee they get.

  • GhoulChild’s campaign will shut down when they’ve spent all the money on four-star hotels, expensive dinners, and thousand-dollar-a-throw hookers.

    That’s his strategy.

    Until he can negotiate the television rights to his own version of a pay-per-view “reality” show….

  • Okie (#16), you got it. Look for Bernie K to phone in a bomb threat to Joe’s Stone Crabs two days before the primary. Just when you thought it was safe to eat seafood..

  • Look for Bernie K to phone in a bomb threat to Joe’s Stone Crabs two days before the primary.

    Well, they have until Mother’s Day to pull it off. Then, stone crab season comes to an end.

  • Romney did get a small bump from winning but it already has gone back down to where it was before the Michigan primary at 18%

    McCain was hurt pretty significantly although he is still the big favorite.at 38%

    Rudy is at 21% which actually is up from before the primary so it looks like Rudy did best in Michagan yesterday.

    Huckabee gained a little yesterday to 14%

    Who really cares about Thompson at 3% and Paul at 2%

  • From now on, when the Yankees beat the snot out of my beloved yet pathetic Royals, I will declare it a victory for KC! A sign of their brilliance and success!

    When the Chiefs pee on themselves in the early part of the season, I will announce that these losses are a sign their strategy is working to perfection and that they have the rest of the league right where they want them!

    Now, that sounds totally absurd, don’t it? Any sports columnist who ever suggested these things would either be doing some damn fine snark, or would be proving to the world that he/she had lost his/her ever loving mind.

    Yet that’s exactly the kind of analysis we get from our political pundits.

    And it’s one of the many reasons The Mrs and I are looking into moving to Denmark.

    🙂

  • Anyone got a link to a good site with polls from the Super Tuesday states? Hadn’t seen NJ polls ’till just now and haven’t seen NY.

  • From CB:

    “Let’s see, Giuliani went from first to sixth in Iowa, first to fourth in New Hampshire, and first to sixth in Michigan.”

    Shows he’s consistent. Just like our current excuse.

    “He’s tanking in South Carolina, he’s slipping in Florida, he’s losing to McCain in New York, and he’s blown a 26-point lead in New Jersey,”

    By now, we all know that the polls are useless as indicators of anything at all. Iowa, New Hampshire and Michigan are proof positive of that.

    “All the while, his campaign has so little money that his senior aides aren’t even going to get paid in January.”

    That’s just a practice run, which will prepare him that much better for taking over the reins of the whole country. For, isn’t it true that US is so deeply in debt that, beginning in January of ’09, all of us (hoi-polloi) will need to work for free, just to keep the corporation CEOs in their bonuses?

    Everything is proceeding according to the master plan, as log as he can keep Diebold in his pocket…

  • Thanks for the link, zeitgeist. electoral-vote.com looks like a nice site- loads quick, too, for us dial-up folks.

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