An uphill fight against telecom immunity in the Senate

Facing a looming deadline, the Senate is poised to take up the Bush administration’s surveillance bill, again. The sticking point is over providing retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that cooperated with Bush’s warrantless-surveillance scheme, again.

With time running out, the landscape appears discouraging.

Senate Democrats concede that they probably lack the votes needed to stop a White House-backed plan to give immunity to phone utilities that helped the National Security Agency’s eavesdropping, and they are seeking to put off the vote for another month.

The Senate delayed a vote in December, and it is scheduled to take up the issue again in a debate beginning Thursday. […]

The immunity issue has splintered Senate Democrats. Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the West Virginia Democrat who leads the Intelligence Committee, has received approval from his committee for a plan that includes immunity.

Senator Patrick J. Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who is chairman of the Judiciary Committee, has won passage of a competing plan that leaves it out.

“In the end, I think something like the Intelligence Committee bill would pass — with the immunity,” said a senior Democratic official who opposes the immunity plan and insisted on anonymity. “I don’t know that it’s possible to get anything through the Senate that doesn’t grant the telecom companies immunity.”

Not surprisingly, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is facing quite a bit of criticism for allowing the retroactive immunity provision to progress. “If Senator Reid wanted to win, he would have put the judiciary vote on the floor first,” Caroline Frederickson, director of the Washington legislative office of the ACLU, said. “It seems as if he wants to lose.”

It’s a common sentiment right now.

Glenn Greenwald explains:

Harry Reid — who has (a) done more than any other individual to ensure that Bush’s demands for telecom immunity and warrantless eavesdropping powers will be met in full and (b) allowed the Republicans all year to block virtually every bill without having to bother to actually filibuster — went to the Senate floor yesterday and, with the scripted assistance of Mitch McConnell and Pat Leahy, warned Chris Dodd, Russ Feingold and others that they would be selfishly wreaking havoc on the schedules of their fellow Senators (making them work over the weekend, ruining their planned “retreat,” and even preventing them from going to Davos!) if they bothered everyone with their annoying, pointless little filibuster.

To do so, Reid announced that, unlike for the multiple filibusters from Republican colleagues, he would actually force Dodd and company to engage in a real filibuster.

I certainly like the idea of introducing real, live, talk-the-bill-to-death filibusters to the Senate, but it’s not at all encouraging that Reid would start with a retroactive immunity measure he claims to oppose, and force a Democrat to do the filibustering.

For what it’s worth, Chris Dodd, who’s shown real leadership on this bill for months, is poised to follow through.

Speaking to reporters today, Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) said that he would again filibuster any bill that a provision in it granting retroactive immunity to the telecoms — or as he put it, “use every tool at my disposal as a Senator” to stop it. So if you were wondering whether anything has changed since Dodd dropped out of the presidential race, nothing has.

There was talk in some circles that Dodd’s position in this debate a few months ago was a tactic to gain support for his presidential campaign. I always found these accusations silly — anyone who’s watched Dodd knew this was a bogus charge — but in case there were any doubts about Dodd’s commitment, he’s proving his mettle now.

The next question, of course, is which Senate Dems are prepared to stand with him (and the rule of law, and administration accountability, and corporate accountability) on this?

We really need to remind Reid who he works for. Namely, us.

  • What the hell was Leahy doing helping Reid? Is that really correct? That doesn’t even make sense – Leahy has always been one of the good (and tough) guys, and his own committee passed a version without immunity.

    Sad to see this is the thanks Dodd gets for his courage and leadership. One could hardly blame him if he renounced the (D) after his name. He gets treated worse than the Rs. And it appears the majority of his colleagues will join in the mistreatment.

    No wonder we can’t seem to win anything.

  • Reid should schedule the vote for 3 am and only tell the Democrats about it. Either that or he should twist enough arms and control enough pork to get his way.

    Oh, I forgot. Those methods would require nerve or talent.

  • Obama’s and Clinton’s actual conduct on this will likely determine whom I vote for in the primary.

  • Only slightly off topic:

    House Democrats will postpone votes on criminal contempt citations against White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers, while congressional leaders work with President Bush on a bipartisan stimulus package to fend off an economic downturn, according to party leaders and leadership aides.

    source: NY Times politico

  • We all need to send Chris Dodd a letter thanking him for doing what so many people seem incapable of, namely defending the rule of law.

    Reid has shown himself to be useless on too many occasions. Remember when Harry “Tough Guy” Reed actually shut down the senate to get the Phase 2 investigation moving? Now that he’s in charge the Phase 2 investigation is nowhere to be seen. Who cares if Bush lied us into the Iraq war, I’m in charge of the Millionaires’ Club!

    That MF needs to GO.

  • I’ve written my senator telling them I demand they stand for the rule of law in spite of the congressional bribery going on to pay for supporting telecom immunity for their law breaking. Bush bribed the telecoms with lucrative government contracts to break the law…the telecoms have bribed most of the senate to get them to grant them immunity.
    Rockefeller has gotten enormous campaign contributions over the past year and he and Cheney came up with the plan to grant immunity to the telecoms. This is blatant senate corruption and bribery happening before our very eyes to buy justice.

    Leadership is demanded now from our presidential candidates who say they want to change the way congress does business. Prove it. Support Dodd’s filibuster. Come out against Reid as he has come out opposing you. Any senator voting for this is part of the corrupt money party who’s vote is bought and sold. Reid is a traitor to the party accomplishing nothing for the dems only furthering the republican agenda.

  • What principle, besides fat checks from Telco interests, undergirds Reid’s position? I don’t mind principled opposition, but I do mind the parliamentary equivalent of fishnet stockings and a rousing “Hello , naughty sailor….”

  • It seems yet another watertight compartment on the ship of state is about to be breached. Anyone remember how many compartments need to remain intact for us to stay afloat?

  • …in the meantime, Clinton launches an ad in SC attacking Obama for his “party of ideas” comment. God help us.

  • Has Reid ever given an explanation why he supports immunity? I would really like to know, and saying that no immunity would not pass is an excuse, not an explanation.

  • Just when my blood had stopped boiling over Harry Reid’s incompetence, he whips it back up again.

    The man is a disgrace, as are most of the “Democrats” in the Senate.

  • To those who have asked, Reid’s justification of this is to just repeat GOP talking points (read: lies). You know, “It keeps us safe from terrorists” and such things.

    And why is everybody looking at this and saying that Reid is caving, or spineless, or whatever? He is none of those things. He is letting this through because he supports it, nothing more or less. He and the entire Democratic Party establishment is complicit in the GOP’s undermining of the Constitution. That’s why, among other things, Pelosi said that impeachment is off the table. The investigations that real oversight would require would implicate every high-ranking democrat in all the unconstitutional nonsense the GOP has been playing at for the past decade-or-so.

  • We all need to send Chris Dodd a letter thanking him for doing what so many people seem incapable of, namely defending the rule of law. — RacerX, @9

    He could use a few bucks too, to help him retire his campaign debts… 🙂

    Even though Edwards is “my guy”, I sent Dodd a small contribution after his opposition to the immunity the last time the thing came around, so I’ve been getting notices from him every once in a while. He pledged to keep up his opposition the day after he told us that he was dropping out of the presidential race; it had *not* been a campaign trick designed to get him more traction.

    I feel that politicians are like Pavlov’s dog and need to be trained the same way; if they behave, send them a few bucks (reward) if they don’t, send a scathing letter (equivalent of: “Bad dog! Bad!”)

  • This could be a winner for the Democrats if they got some spine and changed the framing. The questions that the Democrats should be posing are

    1) “Why does the Republican party consider the bottom line of telecoms more important than national security?”
    2) “Why are Republicans holding hostage a law that will protect America for the sake of the profit margins of telecommunications companies?”
    3) “Why does the GOP protect an industry that recently cut off FBI wiretaps because bill weren’t paid on time? How is that patriotic?”
    4) “Do you feel that the phone companies (the one that keeps jacking up your bills and hitting you with hidden charges) should be given a free pass for possibly violating the law?

  • I agree – Chris Dodd for Senate Majority Leader

    Can we elect him now, instead of waiting till November?

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