Wednesday’s Mini-Report

Today’s edition of quick hits.

* Following up on a point raised by my friend Sarabeth, NBC News crunched the Dems’ popular vote numbers after yesterday’s contests. In DNC-sanctioned contests (sans Florida and Michigan), Obama still leads Clinton by 600,000 votes, 12.9 million to 12.3 million. Even with Florida in the mix, Obama is ahead by 300,000.

* Disappointing, but not surprising: “The FBI improperly used national security letters in 2006 to obtain personal data on Americans during terror and spy investigations, Director Robert Mueller said Wednesday. Mueller told the Senate Judiciary Committee that the privacy breach by FBI agents and lawyers occurred a year before the bureau enacted sweeping new reforms to prevent future lapses…. The report is a follow-up to an audit by the inspector general a year ago that found the FBI demanded personal data on people from banks, telephone and Internet providers and credit bureaus without official authorization and in non-emergency circumstances between 2003 and 2005.”

* Don’t expect much in the way of follow-through from a McCain administration when it comes to Bush malfeasance: “Despite rhetoric about tackling corruption in Washington, John McCain does not appear too eager to look into the current administration. When asked today about supporting independent investigations into the Bush administration, McCain replied: ‘I do not agree with your sentiment that there has been widespread corruption. I just don’t accept that.'”

* Was race (and alleged racism) a key factor in yesterday’s primaries? There’s no shortage of analysis out there, though I’m inclined to agree with Isaac Chotiner’s take: “I am willing to believe there are people out there who will not vote for Obama because of his race, but the exit poll is not convincing on this measure.”

* More discouraging news: “The economy has weakened since the start of this year as shoppers turned even more cautious given the severe housing slump and painful credit crunch. Manufacturers and other businesses, meanwhile, had to cope with skyrocketing prices for energy and other raw materials.”

* John Kerry is pushing the FCC to investigate Alabama’s WHNT over the “60 Minutes” controversy. Good.

* When it comes to FISA expansion and telecom immunity, the White House isn’t even willing to sit down with Dems to tell them what to do: “[Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller] supports the immunity provision the administration wants, but he said he was perplexed by the fact that the White House has skipped the meetings the Democrats have tried to hold. ‘I don’t understand why the White House hasn’t been more active in pushing the solution they want,’ he said. ‘It’s very strange.'”

* Have you heard about the “Lunatics and Liars” contest? “We’re looking for funny TV commercials. But not real ones. Ones made up by you. Make a 30 second commercial that tells us why we should vote – or not vote – for your favorite presidential candidate, and you could win a $5,000 grand prize and free trip to Washington, DC, to meet real politicos in their native habitat.”

* Reuters: “The leak of information about Barack Obama’s position on the North American Free Trade Agreement was ‘blatantly unfair’ to his campaign, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Wednesday.”

* Leave it to one of Bush’s hacks to generate this kind of internal division at the EPA: “Unionized EPA workers are withdrawing from a cooperation agreement with the political appointees who supervise them over controversies including the agency’s refusal to let California regulate greenhouse gas emissions from cars and trucks.”

* FBI Director Robert Mueller doesn’t see the need for torture. Maybe he ought to let the president know; he might find the information helpful.

* And finally, my adopted home state is making national news again: “Voters in two Vermont towns on Tuesday approved a measure that would instruct police to arrest President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for ‘crimes against our Constitution’, local media reported. The nonbinding, symbolic measure, passed in Brattleboro and Marlboro in a state known for taking liberal positions on national issues, instructs town police to ‘extradite them to other authorities that may reasonably contend to prosecute them’.”

Anything to add? Consider this an end-of-the-day open thread.

Robert Mueller doesn’t see the need for torture.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure he didn’t see the torture while it was going on, either. Or the videotapes. And the paperwork that “legalized” the torture, I’m sure he will not see the need to disclose it.

The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

  • Canada’s Harper has wet dreams that he could be a Bush level dictator and that Parliament would let him get away with what our lame ass politicos let Bush get away with.

    But he’s working on it.

  • “Following up on a point raised by my friend Sarabeth…”

    What your friend, Sarabeth, fails to point out (but her linked source does), is that these numbers do not include Iowa, Nevada, or Maine, and that Obama’s name was not on the Michigan ballot.

  • Harper is a notorious micromanager in Ottawa. His office usually vettes all statements coming out of any department in government especially the environment (sound familiar?) Either he looks like he’s losing control or purposely released it (I’m betting the later.) FYI, several of his cabinet ministers were invited guests at many Repub functions including the 2004 convention.

  • “The leak of information about Barack Obama’s position on the North American Free Trade Agreement was ‘blatantly unfair’ to his campaign, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Wednesday.”

    Given that “Stephen Harper” is how you spell “George W. Bush” in Canadian English, someone is surprised this happened? Birds of a feather do flock together, you know.

  • Can anybody tell me how the delegate count ended up in Texas? According to CBS news, they’re tied at 81 apiece but there are supposedly another 31 still unaccounted for. How long does it take Texas to figure this out? That 31 could make Obama the winner, perhaps, at least in terms of delegates. Anybody?

  • John Kerry is pushing the FCC to investigate Alabama’s WHNT over the “60 Minutes” controversy. Good.

    More than good…great!

    We need to stay on top of this. The airwaves belong to the people…not the networks or local broadcasters. If the results of this investigation turn out as inspected…the S.O.B.’s license should be revoked…permanently.

  • Yes, i’d like to add that the great state of Vermont deserves a hearty round of applause.

  • Unionized EPA workers are withdrawing from a cooperation agreement with the political appointees who supervise them…

    …the purpose of the Clinton-era National Labor-Management Partnership Council was for senior agency officials and workers to deal with workplace and other issues before the decision stage.

    Instead, “what we found is decisions are being made and they’re being presented to us,” said Evans.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/epa_staff_reps_were_mad_as_hel.php

  • Was race (and alleged racism) a key factor in yesterday’s primaries?

    I got the impression that Hillary Clinton woke up this morning in a scene from Trading Places

    Hillary: (Waking up from a bad dream) Oh Coleman, I had the most awful dream. My rightful place as America’s next president was being threatened by this awful negro…

    (Obama raises his eyes in surprise)

    Hillary: (Noticing that Obama is there, leaps up from the bed enraged) You’re a dead man Obama!!!

  • “To be a winner you have to win. And Tuesday night Hillary Clinton unreservedly won three out of four states. Barack Obama, however, has won twice as many primary and caucus states overall, leads substantially in the popular vote and continues to hold a mathematically insurmountable lead in elected delegates.

    For two or three days, the Clinton campaign will spin itself -and the media–silly, breathlessly celebrating her overwhelming victories in Rhode Island and Ohio and her squeaker in Texas.

    After the confetti is swept and the champagne bottles are tossed a more sober reality will take hold. Not just that her net gain of delegates this week will be, at most, in the single digits. But worse. There is no plausible scenario in which Clinton can win the nomination. At least not democratically.

    Seven more weeks of campaign slog through Wyoming, Mississippi and into Pennsylvania. And then maybe tack on six more weeks, if you can believe it, into Indiana , West Virginia, and a handful of other states and into Puerto Rico on the 7th of June, quite literally into D-Day. Whatever the outcome, even if Clinton wins all 16 remaining contests -and some of them by veritable landslides, she will still be dozens of elected delegates behind Barack Obama.

    She will not be the winner because she will have not won the majority of elected Democratic delegates. Clinton will be exactly where she was the night before Ohio and Texas: in second place and with no way to become the nominee unless enough unelected Superdelegates defy the popular will of the electorate and throw her the nomination (or unless you somehow believe that she can every coming primary with a 20 point margin).

    Indeed, as Jonathan Alter has pointed out, Clinton can’t win an elected majority even if she triumphs in what are now likely to be re-scheduled primaries in the cranky states of Michigan and Florida. Again, we’d be back to the Superdelegates and, therefore, back to a dicey game of chicken by the Democratic Party elite. How many Superdelegates are willing to politically die, or willing to spark an intra-party party civil war, just to save Clinton’s bacon?”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/its-3-am-and-hillarys_b_89936.html

  • It takes no genius to know that there is and always be “people out there” who will never vote for someone of color for any job/position. What’s also not being discussed and in my opinion, very obvious , is that there are “people out there” who will never vote for a woman for any job/position. I’m certain , at this point, that the gender issue is a bigger factor than the race issue. Voting booths tend to hide a great many moral shortcomings.

  • ‘I don’t understand why the White House hasn’t been more active in pushing the solution they want,’ he [Rockefeller] said. ‘It’s very strange.’

    Dear Jay,
    It’s not strange at all; why should we waste our time meeting with you if we know already that you’re going to roll over no matter what? It’s much more amusing to see how much s*** you’ll eat on top of that.
    Dissingly yours, sucker,
    The White House

    Steve, @13,

    I’ll raise you one 🙂
    John McSame: President Bush you can Xerox

  • The question is does he or doesn’t he sell out? As the Clintons now demonstrate, (as have many of the ill-tempered posterheads here) once you get down in the muck you never come clean. The mud is comfortable and wallowing fun and of course no one wants to wallow alone so they pull everyone of us into the slop. Here’s the thing: there’s not one point the Clinton posters here have smacked us with (Mary in particular) which has changed my mind, how about you? You really want to be part of that soul-depleting meanness?

    Not me. Not gonna do it. Wouldn’t be prudent.

    Let’s find a better way. Send Barack to Iraq to speak with the troops, and then to the Veterans Hospitals in Germany visiting those maimed and disheartened. Have him ask if this war was such a damn good idea, why hasn’t Senator Clinton sent her own daughter there to fight it? And then have him ask if she was so certain there were nukes in Iraq and there were none, why hasn’t she sent troops to N. Korea where it’s verifiable? Finally, ask her what the hell was she thinking and will she make the same mistake again?

    Answer: “Yes. She. Will!”

  • “John McCain does not appear too eager to look into the current administration.”

    Reagan had his 11th Commandment, McCain proffers the 12th: don’t bite the hand that feeds you. There is honor among thieves in Republican chambers.

  • Dayton Mayor Endorses Barack Obama

    03/05/2008 10:40:21

    DAYTON, Ohio — Mirroring the unofficial results of the Democratic Presidential race in Montgomery County, Dayton Mayor Rhine McLin today announced her endorsement of Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

    Despite a win statewide by New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, in Montgomery County, the results told a different tale with Obama beating Clinton by over 10,000 votes.

  • Is anyone keeping track of the numbers of Dems voting comparitive to Republicans? No one in media- be it mainstream, blogosphere or otherwise –
    seems to be doing that. Maybe because it really makes the Republicans look ridiculous. Dems get out to vote better than 2 to 1 in every state. Amazing.

  • as a native vermonter, i am proud of brattleboro and marlboro for their actions.

  • Screw Clinton and her “Driving Miss Daisy” unity ticket. We were not amused this morning.

  • Let’s see here. On the same day Grandpa Munster plays smoochie with The Decider, he’s supposed to say he’s going to pursue corruption investigations against Bushco? Oh, come on.

  • The post at 12 absolutely nails it.

    The world will indeed wake to those numbers in the next few days. Her firewall really did not hold in Texas or Ohio. She cannot win the nomination. Barack Obama is the nominee. The democrat party, to varying degrees, is waking to this fact.

    At this point in time, the wiser heads of the party know that the absolute best thing will be for her to stand down. Or at the very least: Cease and desist in her tearing down of the presumptive nominee. Even as I type this, communiques to this effect are being emailed amongst the democratic hive mind. If they fail to rein in Hillary… then be certain of one thing: She is a rogue actor who cares nothing about the greater good of the party or the country. Yes: The math is inarguable. We will have our answer to Hillary’s intent in a next few days. Given her comments today Ican only postulate one of the following:

    1) She is innumerate.
    2) She is leveraging herself to be Vice President.
    3) She is delusional.

    Let’s be very clear here: Barack Obama is the democratic party nominee.
    The math is indisputable.

    Everything that happens heretofore, needs to be judged in the context of the above two sentences.

  • On my way home I heard on NPR that it looks like Obama may end up with more delegates coming out of Texas, thanks to the Caucusing that happened. So… no win for Hillary after all.

  • It’s time for someone to put some perspective on the Texas numbers. The media keeps saying that it was a decisive win for Hillary.

    Sure, Hillary won in Texas, by 51% but that doesn’t make it a decisive win, considering she was up by double digits just a few weeks ago.

    I’d surmise that if it wasn’t for going negative the last week, she may have ended up loosing her entire lead. In other words, the negative campaign temporarily put the breaks on Obama’s slow but steady rise.

    As the dust settles, people will start realizing that a lot of the dirt thrown at Obama wasn’t really dirt at all, and there’s a good chance it will have some negative backlash on Hillary herself. Eventhough negative ads work, nobody really likes a politician who goes negative too easily. It’s one thing to defend yourself, it’s another to throw it at every occasion.

    Republican tactics… and we don’t need those.

  • CRK, this was the biggest thing I was following in the earlier primaries, but now, I don’t think it applies as much because goopers knew that McSame was going to get the nod, so they didn’t have to go out. And I think that more than we thought might have gone out to vote for Hillary. I have heard tales of people bragging about just that. Don’t know how true it is, but something else to consider.

  • “Voters in two Vermont towns on Tuesday approved a measure that would instruct police to arrest President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for ‘crimes against our Constitution’,”

    Coincidently, the “terror” watch list just went up by the population of two Vermont towns.

  • I’m with #14
    Was gender a key factor in yesterday’s primaries?
    Where is that analysis? It certainly figures in the way the press treats her.
    I think a few Hillary haters are unconsciously hating because they’re threatened by strong women. I’ve seen that first hand… so I know for sure that it happens.

    The bashing of this very capable candidate, Hillary Clinton, makes me so sick I’m thinking of skipping the blogs comments until after the convention.

    “Following up on a point raised by my friend Sarabeth…”
    What is the margin of error in our voting system ? I heard 3% (an avg I assume). What’s 3% of 25 Million? 750,000. The popular vote difference is inside the margin of error! That matters.

  • Nell, @36

    AFAIK, the “margin of error” applies to estimates — like polls — where you “sample” a certain number of people and draw conclusions which cover a much bigger group than that which had been sampled. The term does not apply to actually counted, real numbers — voters who showed up and pulled a lever or put a tick by a name on a ballot.

  • #31, the YouTube you posted of the CBC is not longer valid.

    Would love to see it, though.

  • Could the Obama-nauts manage not to spin the Clinton wins as losses, please?

    ‘Cause the harder you spin, the less real it seems, and the less likely someone is going to listen to you.

  • libra @37: There’s a margin of error in various tabulation methods of votes. No method, not even hand-counting, has a 0% margin of error. The more money you throw at the problem, the lower the margin of error, but generally, we ignore these things.

    But that’s why it’s important to have methods available for recounts – for when you really do need to look at the votes more closely.

    Obama is winning, yes. But by less than a hundred out of several thousand delegates… That’s really a close race.

  • Jeebus H, how the hell long does it take Texans to count ballots? It’s been 24 hours since the caucuses closed and they’ve got 40% reporting? WTF! What on earth could take that long? I read that late yesterday night they stopped when they realized it would go on till morning, then they started counting again this morning. So they’ve supposedly been counting all day and still over half haven’t reported? What, are these people all dain bramaged? How many days is Hillary going to be able to tout her decisive win in Texas before the news comes out that Obama won the most delegates there?

  • Hey, hey, President Lindsay, @43… No need to get all het-up about Texas caucuses. They only count for one-third of Texas delegates. And they’re going for Obama, but not with any great margins (at least not so far as I can see). At best then, he’ll be able to pick up one or two delegates more from Texas than Clinton had (fishing in twice as large — 65% of delegates — pool). He’s not likely to make up for the losses suffered in Ohio and Hillary’s not likely to close the overall gap any. So, let’s concede Texas to Hillary and move on to the next state on the primaries list. I just sent a small donation — my first — to Obama, to help grease the wheels of his wagon some.

  • According to
    http://www.electoral-vote.com/
    Clinton mopped up all the rural — traditionally conservative/Republican — vote. Whether this means that these are Limpdicks followers who voted as told in the primaries and will revert to pattern come November, or whether these are truly disgusted ex-Repubs who think Clinton is less threatening to their status quo than Obama would be is anyone’s guess…

  • Danp @ 3:

    What your friend, Sarabeth, fails to point out (but her linked source does), is that these numbers do not include Iowa, Nevada, or Maine, and that Obama’s name was not on the Michigan ballot.

    My bad. Iowa, Nevada, Washington and Maine were not included since “they have not released popular vote totals.”

    But frankly, these four states really would not have changed the popular vote differential very much. My broader point remains true. Hillary Clinton cut Obama’s popular vote lead in half in one polling day — from 4.6% to 2.3%. She could well end up taking the popular vote lead. And that would change the whole dynamic of the “who should superdelegates vote for” debate.

    (Obama not being on the Michigan ballot doesn’t matter, because my numbers didn’t include Michigan.)

  • Re: Post #44.

    If the margin between the two in Texas really was so thin, why isn’t it being spun as a statistical tie? Because that’s sure what it looks like from here.

  • the FBI demanded personal data on people from banks, telephone and Internet providers and credit bureaus without official authorization

    Maybe that’s why Bush isn’t sitting down with Rockefeller yet.

    He doesn’t yet know all the companies that need the blanket immunity.

    Hang in there, Jay. Sit tight. You can sell us out soon enough.
    We want to do this RIGHT the first time, ya dig?

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