Pelosi weighs in, hammers McCain over Hagee endorsement

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the highest ranking Roman Catholic official in the federal government, and not surprisingly, she finds John Hagee’s anti-Catholic rhetoric offensive. Yesterday, to her credit, she pressed John McCain on why he refuses to denounce Hagee’s bigotry. Nico Pitney has the story.

“That behavior is outside the circle of civilized debate in our democracy,” Pelosi said during a Thursday conference call. “I certainly think John McCain should reject his endorsement and I’m sure it won’t be long before he does.”

McCain has come under heavy fire from Catholic groups across the political spectrum for appearing with Hagee last week and declaring he was “proud” of the endorsement. Subsequently, McCain told reporters that Hagee’s backing “does not mean that I embrace everything that he stands for and believes,” but added, “I am very proud of the Pastor John Hagee’s spiritual leadership to thousands of people.”

But several Catholic groups insist that McCain should specifically condemn Hagee’s “hate speech” about Catholicism. Bill Donohue, president of the conservative Catholic League, charged in a statement that McCain “has shown horrendous judgment in buddying up to this bigot and spin doctor.” The progressive group Catholics United yesterday circulated remarks from McCain in 2000 condemning the “strong anti-Catholic statements” of Bob Jones.

Pelosi apparently didn’t realize that McCain had actively sought out Hagee’s support, and when told about his on the conference call, Pelosi was surprised. She said that she “certainly” thinks that McCain should reject Hagee’s support, and then added, “I can’t imagine that he wouldn’t reject it.”

I can.

Nevertheless, comments on this issue from the Speaker of the House raise the stakes. Or, at least, they should.

Josh Marshall raised a good point.

It’s not just the media’s slavering adulation of John McCain. Things like the Hagee story also fail to pick up momentum because name leaders don’t chime in on them. In some abstract sense it shouldn’t make Hagee a bigger deal simply because Nancy Pelosi says what a lot of other people are already saying. But in the way news pegs operate, it makes all the difference in the world.

True. When McCain actively seeks the support of an anti-Catholic, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, and anti-Semitic televangelist, reporters don’t think it’s newsworthy. When a prominent political figure criticizes McCain for seeking the support of an anti-Catholic, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, and anti-Semitic televangelist, then it’s a story. It’s frustrating, but that’s largely the way the political media works.

The question then becomes one of “prominence.” Is Bill Donohue from the Catholic League a “prominent political figure”? When he attacked John Edwards last year, the media seemed to think so, covering his criticisms in great detail. Now that he’s attacking McCain, however, Donohue’s concerns no longer seem to matter. Hmm.

How about DNC Chairman Howard Dean? He went after McCain on this with a vengeance, on national television no less. Is he a “prominent political figure”? Apparently not, the media didn’t care.

OK, but now the Speaker of the House has broached the subject. This has to give news outlets a news peg worth mentioning, right? Wrong. According to Nexis and Google News, not a single traditional news outlet noted Pelosi’s criticism.

In my heart of hearts, I don’t really believe there’s a coordinated effort on the part of reporters to intentionally bury this story and give McCain a pass. But c’mon, this is journalistic malpractice.

But several Catholic groups insist that McCain should specifically condemn Hagee’s “hate speech” about Catholicism. Bill Donohue, president of the conservative Catholic League, charged in a statement that McCain “has shown horrendous judgment in buddying up to this bigot and spin doctor.”

How sad – religiously insane catholic bigot Donohue gets his knockers in a twist because religiously insane non-catholic bigot Hagee says bigoted things about bigoted catholics.

It would be nice, as you said, if the supposedly liberal mainstream media actually covered things that would make Republican’ts look like the motherCheneying iceholes that they are. I’m not holding my breath waiting for it to happen, however…

  • Not to disagree too strenuously, but if it hadn’t been for Messrs. Donohue and Dean, along with Speaker Pelosi, the coverage (at least on CNN) would have been all ‘McCain gets important endorsement from God.’ Not one word of what Mr. Hagee’s actual ‘teachings’ are would have been heard.

  • Well, I have to confess I’m shocked but I do need to give Donohue some credit for consistency. As soon as I heard about Hagee’s endorsement I expected total silence from Donohue but he’s actually being just as aggressive to his own side.

  • Donohue cries “anti-Catholic bigotry” so often it’s hard to tell when he’s got a legitimate gripe. Ironically, after years of crying wolf, he’s finally identified an actual anti-Catholic bigot.

  • What this means is that we have our work cut out for us. The media loves its “maverick” and they’re not about to let him get caught sucking up to a guy who thinks huge numbers of Ameircans belong to a cult. That would definitely dent McCain, and that would violate the prime directive: Make Money.

    McCain already has a tough row to hoe this fall, and if they did real reporting we’d have an Obama blowout, which would be bad for business. Corporate media makes billions from close races, and we need to realize that and act accordingly.

  • As someone who was raised Catholic I’m torn between saying “Pot, meet Kettle.” and “StFu HAGee.”

    I object to the usual crap about the church being a cult, I know a lot of the poo-flinging from the TalEvan is based on sheer jealously and greed. Any TalEvangical preacher would give up his favourite wetsuit to have that kind of following and the money they represent.

    But Let’s not kid ourselves that the RC is a bastion of kindness and understanding. Anti-gay? Oh yeah.. Anti-woman? If she feels she has the right to use birth control or have an abortion, you betya. Anti-Semitic? Not any more (at least not blatantly). Anti-Muslim? I’ll say check. In my fondest dreams, the leaders of the RC and the TalEvan get into a knock down drag out that leaves them too crippled to bother the rest of us.

  • Good for Pelosi. Sad that she’s the only one. The whole Democratic leadership should be slamming McCain (jeez I almost typoed Clinton) every chance they get. Most Dem leaders can get a news conference and they should on every issue about McCain.

    And Clinton should never ever side with McCain publicly.

  • Good for Speaker Pelosi. Clinton and Obama should be criticizing McCain over this rather than spending time knocking down each other. The target is the GOP.

    I’m disappointed that the Democratic candidates are not making issues out of the FISA bill and the retroactive immunity to the telecoms. What about the “non-treaty” commitments Bush may make on our behalf with Iraq? What about the Seigleman case?

    Why aren’t Clinton and Obama talking about these issues? Now. What are they waiting for? Don’t they want McCain to be defending the president (or fighting with his base) on these issues?

  • Mr. “Straight-talk”, Mr. “Finance Reform” may want to think about Mr. Hagee and his financial issues.
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    In 2003, the San Antonio Express-News reported that, in 2001 alone, John Hagee had received over 1.25 million dollars in total compensation for his position as CEO at his non-profit corporation, Global Evangelism Television (GETV). This made him one of the highest-paid televangelists in 2001 [11].

    According to the Form 990 that GETV filed for tax year 2003, Hagee received almost a million dollars in compensation for his work for GETV that year, which amounted to approximately 16 hours per week [12]. (The GETV Board of Directors, which determines his pay, consisted of John Hagee himself, his wife, his son, and a Cornerstone Church member.) However, because he claimed that he worked “80 hours a week” writing books, singing songs, meeting international dignitaries and answering the call to preach the word of God, John Hagee argued: “I deserve every dime I’m getting”. Other observers, including many evangelical Christians, criticize Hagee’s handling of finances [13]. Considering his combined pay from both donor-supported ministries (his separate church and TV ministries), his pay has been over $1 million per year.

    Hagee said he was certain his finances complied with requirements of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) because he hired tax lawyers and accountants to make sure that his books complied with tax laws. Hagee said, ‘We want a set of books so that when the IRS comes in here and looks they’ll say, those people are clean'”, Hagee said. “And I am waiting for the day that the IRS is going to come look at our books. I have spent a chunk of money waiting for them” [11].

    In September 2004, Hagee re-registered GETV as a church under the name Grace Church of San Antonio, and became exempt from filing detailed returns with the IRS. A further reorganization in July 2006 moved all assets into Cornerstone Church. [14]

    Cornerstone Church is not a member of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability and no public records of church finances are available.
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    The company you keep John McSame, the company you keep. So you just keep on french kissing the shrub and the other thieves that you praise. It speaks volumes.

  • i love giving free advice to the DNC…

    don’t make a fuss about it now… let hagee’s endorsement ring for mccain; the longer he goes without rejecting it the better, at least until the generals heat up. this will be excellent debate fodder for the dem candidate. let it simmer until extremely ripe — then take the lid off this pot.

  • And Clinton should never ever side with McCain publicly. -Dale

    Let’s hope Pelosi and other Democratic leaders are letting her have it behind closed doors for this.

    If it continues, let them chastise her publicly.

  • I agree with doubtful (#12). Although I support Obama, I have (had?) respect for Hillary, but her comments lately have angered me. I hope someone whom she would listen to feels the same way and tells her. And if she doesn’t listen, publicly scold her.

  • OK, but now the Speaker of the House has broached the subject. This has to give news outlets a news peg worth mentioning, right? Wrong. According to Nexis and Google News, not a single traditional news outlet noted Pelosi’s criticism.

    The corporatization of media – which Bill Clinton championed, by the way with his telecommunications “reform” – means that the press will never go after a Republican, since Republicans represent the inteerests of the Murdochs and the Zells and the rest of them.

    I can’t remember who said this, but they were right: “the press is free to he who owns one.”

  • According to Nexis and Google News, not a single traditional news outlet noted Pelosi’s criticism.

    Traditional ‘news’ outlets don’t put out news. More and more people are becoming aware of that. LINK TV wh/ can be seen on Dishnetwork or at http://www.linktv.org/ and Free Speech TV (http://www.freespeech.org/) ARE worth watching and do put out in-depth analysis, real news, news as we used to know it in this county. They are great sources, for any of you who haven’t checked thatm out yet. Remember when the people we were supposed to hate were the Communists, and one of the biggest differences b/t us and ‘them’ was that we had a ‘free and independent’ press? What a crock. The Right(ous) wing fascists have their claws so deep into our traditional, supposed, ‘free and independent’ press that you can see their talons poking out the other end. ANY time a trace of truly balanced or independent news is actually broadcast, the wingnuts scream ‘liberal bias!! liberal bias!!’. Outlets like Indy media and the ones mentioned above are truly a Godsend. It’s time to turn the tables and start screaming “right wing bias!!! Fascist bias!!” everytime a story is not profoundly left of center. Our current crop of ‘leaders’ who comprise a system of government marked by an alarming and increasing centralization of authority under a (wannabe) dictator, intimidating politico-economic control over critical areas of the business sector that an otherwise healthy democracy would depend upon, suppression of the opposition through terror (water-boarding, extaordinary rendition, suspension of habeas corpus anyone?) censorship (through non-coverage of events that don’t suit their purpose, classifying anything not supporting their agenda as ‘top secret’ due to ‘national security’, etc, etc…), and a policy of belligerent nationalism and covert racism,,, They are THE very definition of FACSISTS!

    Yes I know, a bit off topic, but the point is, if we want to get the message out, if we truly want diversity of opinion, viewpoints and representation, then we must, we absolutely must, support the few independent outlets who are trying to keep this great democratic experiment in our country alive. Traditional news is corrupt to the core, along with their Fascist masters who use the media to put out their smut, and then use them again by bitch-slapping them and balming them for everything from the slouching economy, to the lack of success in Iraq.

  • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the highest ranking Roman Catholic official in the federal government,…

    Some Roman Catholic. She believes in abortion on demand, at any term in a pregnancy, including partial birth abortion, and allowing minors have abortions without having to tell their parents, including doing so by crossing state lines (she voted against both provisions).

    …and not surprisingly, she finds John Hagee’s anti-Catholic rhetoric offensive.

    Oh, really? What part? His pro-life stance? His pro-Israel stance? His anti-Iran (anti-Iranian theocracy) stance? His pro-John Paul II stance?

    Yes, Hagee has said some hateful things against the Church. So what? He has the right to free speech like anybody else. In some things, he goes over the top; in others, he’s spot on. I left the Church on account of the behavior of the Church hierarchy, but not because of anything Hagee has said.

    So Pelosi is offended. To this ex-Catholic, I am offended that she considers herself a Roman Catholic, let alone an offended Roman Catholic, and that is based on her voting record.

  • John Hagee anti-Semitic?
    In response to the characterization of John Hagee as “anti-Catholic, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, and anti-Semitic televangelist”, I need to make an adjustment. John Hagee could be characterized as anti-Catholic, anti-gay, and anti-Muslim. He is not anti-woman, unless you consider being a conservative evangelical as anti-woman. And he is most definitely not anti_Semitic. He is in fact so over-the-top pro-Israel that he criticizes the Jews for Jesus for evangelising Jewish people.

  • i am stongly catholic, and i have noticed that anti Catholic bigotry goes unchecked far too often. As soon as I started following Donahue’s actions, I have yet to see him miscall a bigotry. Pelosi is so far from being a practicing catholic, I’m suprised she’s concerned. I’m sure its all politics. But these issues do make strange bedfellows. Mccain needs to amend his ways or he should lose the vote from anyone disgusted by bigotry

  • 16. On March 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, Helena Montana said:
    Several days late and several dollars short.

    You may be right, but independent media still needs our support, and I can not dismiss that by smugly asserting “a day late and dollar short”, as I simply complain about the state of affairs on a blog.

  • This topics are hard to explain, but easy to see. There are three topics here: Religion, politics, and money. Lowly people do things to get money; the real people do things to get power. These three things go together like love and marriage.

    During the 1978, Panama Canal Treaty negotiations, I overheard the following:
    “We have made running for office so expensive that only the people we choose can afford to run. Other people will run for office but they are there for show purposes to make it look like a real election. They are paid enough to make it look like a real election. We are also going to eliminate the write-in ballot to keep someone from out of nowhere and winning the election. This way our people will not have to rely on the voter to win the election.”

    The evangelicals are beating the drums of doom and screaming what they think the book of Revelation means. Yet, they cannot tell you what it means.
    A book, A DRAGON THIS WAY COMES, decrypts Revelation IMHO. The book was written over 20 years ago and predicted the change of govt of Russia; a world economic depression; mega-inflation; diseases being rampant; starvation, etc and a war with Red China before 2012. The book and the evangelicals are at odds with one another of the meaning of Revelation. What good is the book of Revelation if you cannot decipher the symbols accurately and understand the pagents described therein?

    We are headed for a depression and the superrich are waiting for it to happen. Of course they are going to use the media to whip up some terrorist ogre; fear of going to hell to keep the fear factor at a fever pitch.

    If the old man was right, there is no democrat or republican–they have sold themselves so many times that their souls are worn out.

  • Get your facts straight. Although everything else is true, John Hagee is not anti-Semitic or anti-woman. Having said that, I too am offended and hurt by his statements about the RC Church.

    I would like an explanation from him, and if he can’t support his thinking on this subject, (and I think he can’t) he should withdraw them. Whether he will or not is another question: He’s at least as stubborn as I am.

    I think he crossed the line this time, though.

    In any case, McCain is my guy. With reservations of course, but who else am I going to vote for? A Democrat?!?!

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