Monday’s campaign round-up

Today’s installment of campaign-related news items that wouldn’t generate a post of their own, but may be of interest to political observers:

* In the latest twist in the ongoing saga over what Democrats can and should do about Florida and Michigan, there’s growing interest in a cheap alternative for a re-vote: “Some prominent Democrats are converging on the prospect of settling the dispute over Florida and Michigan delegates through mail-in voting to re-do those states’ presidential nominating contests. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, speaking on the Sunday morning talk shows, called mail-in voting — in which every registered Democrat, including those overseas, receives a ballot by mail — ‘a very good process.’ But Dean said it is up to the states and both campaigns to decide how to proceed.”

* Who’d pay for the re-vote primaries? Govs. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and Ed Rendell (D-Pa.) announced yesterday that they would be willing to “raise half the $30 million it would take to run new contests in those two states.” Both Corzine and Rendell are major Clinton backers, but are also known as two of the party’s most successful fundraisers.

* This won’t help the “third term” problem: “John McCain is getting much more than President Bush’s endorsement and fundraising help for his campaign. He’s getting Bush’s staff. It’s no secret that Steve Schmidt, Bush’s attack dog in the 2004 election, and Mark McKinnon, the president’s media strategist, are performing similar functions for McCain now. But other big-name Bushies are lining up to boost McCain, too.” Among them are Karl Rove, Ken Mehlman, Dan Bartlett, and Sara Taylor.

* What’s McCain going to do while the Democratic contest continues? Raise a lot of money.

* Talk of Mitt Romney joining the McCain ticket continues to make the rounds. Both Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol have touted the idea in recent days.

* Bob Novak reported that Republicans are worried about a Florida do-over primary: “Republicans fear a revote would be won by Sen. Barack Obama, who they consider a tougher opponent of Sen. John McCain than Clinton.”

* Al Sharpton, meanwhile, is threatening to sue the DNC if Florida’s delegates, chosen during a primary boycotted by the candidates and not sanctioned by the DNC, end up getting seated at the convention.

* Last week, reports out of Canada caused a stir when it appeared Hillary Clinton’s campaign assured Canadian officials that her anti-NAFTA talk was just political posturing. On Friday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s office said Clinton “never gave Canada any secret assurances about the future of NAFTA.”

* A new Rasmussen poll shows Obama ahead by 14 points in tomorrow’s Mississippi primary.

* Not only did Puerto Rico change its Democratic contest from a caucus to a primary, but it also moved itself up on the nominating calendar to June 1. While Puerto Rico was expected to be the very last contest, the move means Montana and South Dakota will go last, holding their primaries on June 3.

* Gallup’s daily tracking poll has been all over the place lately — Clinton and Obama have traded national leads four times in three weeks — but the latest shows Obama inching back into the lead.

* And finally, remember the young girl sleeping at the beginning of Clinton’s “3 a.m.” ad? It turns out, the footage was shot eight years ago, and the little girl is now 17-year-old Casey Knowles — an Obama precinct captain in Washington state. Knowles, who’ll turn 18 next month, told CNN, “I think it would be wonderful if Barack Obama and I could get together and do a counter-ad.”

Re: McCain’s General Election Fund

Sigh. This is exactly why she who cannot win needs to drop out now. Obama is clearly better a raising money. I don’t even think the most rabid Clintonista would dispute that fact (but who knows, they surprise me all the time).

Obama needs to be raising money for the general election now.

  • It turns out, the footage was shot eight years ago…

    Wow, Clinton can’t even film a campaign commercial without living in the past. 🙂

  • Some prominent Democrats are converging on the prospect of settling the dispute over Florida and Michigan delegates through mail-in voting to re-do those states’ presidential nominating contests.

    I don’t know names…but kudos to the commenters on this blog who proposed the exact same idea a few weeks ago…very forward thinking. Policy makers and decision makers should visit CB more often.

    By the way, I’m an Obama supporter, and I would have no difficulty with new elections in Michigan and Florida. I would love to see fair elections in those states (as opposed to elections where only one candidate was on the ballot or only one candidate campaigned) and to see delegates from those two states seated at the convention.

    Having said that…the end result will be the same. Obama is our nominee. All this drama coming out of the Hillary camp primarily benefits the media (higher ratings, more hits, more newspapers sold). In the end, it won’t make a bit of difference…his lead is insurmountable.

  • I saw Casey Knowles on the Today Show with Matt Lauer this morning and she is one sharp cookie, and a very nice person. Barack needs to get her in some ads as soon as possible or he’s going to miss out on a very valuable ally.

  • Curious: how would party affiliation work in a revote? Michigan’s primary is open, and at least a few Democrats, in order to create havok among republicans, voted for Romney. While Florida’s primary is closed, a third party voter (or independent) may choose to vote in a major party primary, but only if their party is not running a contest (no candidate or unopposed). Far from being deal breakers, these are important details.

  • There’s another problem starting to crop up on that Florida re-vote—In Florida, mail-in-voting is allowed for issues, but not candidates. You’re going to have to get a GOP-dominated legislature to change the law and a GOP governor to sign the change into law. If they really perceive Clinton as being the easier candidate to beat, then they’re not going to take a chance on Obama winning the re-vote.

  • huh, if we can spend 12 Billion a month in Iraq to support their faux President, I’m sure we can afford a measly 30 million here to help settle our Presidential selection, don’t ya think?

  • You’re going to have to get a GOP-dominated legislature to change the law and a GOP governor to sign the change into law. -Steve

    I’m sure they’ll make an exception since they have a vested interest in Clinton’s Quixotic crusade.

  • …I don’t even think the most rabid Clintonista would dispute that fact…

    When you have people running around saying that Obama wasn’t really against the war, and that Bill Clinton was always against it, then you’ve passed the point of disputing readily verifiable facts.

    They would try to dispute that the sun is shining at high noon if it would help the political suicide bomber complete her mission.

  • The Casey Knowles story is just too funny. Very articulate young lady, I might add. Olberman is going to have a good time with that tonight.

  • Yes, sure. the mail-in vote is an excellent idea; we’ve been doing that for a while in Oregon. In my opinion it is far superior to any other form of voting.

    I have an issue with Florida though. They were the cause of trouble in the 2000 election, as well as the 2004 irregularities to put it mildly. For this election cycle, they decided to go against the established rules, knowing full well that by doing so, their delegates would not be seated. Some will say it was the Republicans who proposed the changes, but the majority of democrats voted to approve the measure as well. Blaming the Republicans for this mess, isn’t cutting it. This is a FLORIDA problem: they wanted to be the center of attention, once again, by moving up the primary.

    Now they want to be the center of attention again, by throwing a tantrum about their votes not counting. They want a do-over.

    My question for FLORIDIANS is: As a voter, you can’t blame the politicians because YOU are the ones electing them. YOUR State screwed up during the 2000 election, which was bad for democracy. That could be ‘forgiven’ by some, because nobody would have expected the SCOTUS to award the election to Bush and their right wing suppression efforts. However, the fact that YOUR state didn’t even clean up it’s act for the 2004 election, and had another ‘Harris” counting problem, to put it mildly, doesn’t bode well. The 2006 cycle even had kinks in it.

    YOUR State’s refusal, or incompetence, in cleaning up the voting process, especially considering the 2008 cycle of contempt for the Republican and Democratic National Committees’ rules and regulations… Why would the rest of the country have to ‘help’ pay for a second chance?

    Sure, keep blaming the politicians in your State of Florida for the mess… Why do we have to pay for your incompetent voters, who can’t seem to elect decent enough people to assure that your State doesn’t remain an embarrassment to the American electorate.

    All of you are going to promise to vote for decent candidates on the State ticket? All of you are going to promise to vote for the best qualified presidential candidate? HINT: the best qualified are on the democratic side of the ballot. If you can’t see that, then don’t expect the rest of the country to support your do-over. Go back to sipping your margarita, go for a dip in the ocean, do whatever it is you enjoy there, but for god’s sake, leave elections to the rest of America. You’ve screwed up enough.

  • Steve, why are Obama-Clinton polls only news when Obama is ahead? Every time you have mentioned polls that I have checked, you report when Obama moves ahead and don’t report when Clinton moves ahead. For example, on 2/11, you quoted TNR in a post:

    If, as seems increasingly likely, the Democratic nomination drags on all the way to the convention, it’s imperative that Clinton close the gap with Obama. Think of it like this: you are a superdelegate or party boss. You have been undecided but now must choose between two candidates with roughly equal numbers of delegates. Most of all, you want to win in November, which is now only three months away. And while one of your two choices is consistently beating the Republican nominee in polls, the other is consistently losing. It’s not hard to imagine that many of these people will be swayed by the data above.

    Since then, Clinton has closed the gap. Of the last 6 polls cited by RCP, Obama leads McCain in 4 of the 6 where as Clinton leads McCain in 3 of the 6 and is tied in a 4th.

  • Dennis_D @ 12

    This blog and it’s author are biased, if you haven’t figured it out by now, stick around, you’ll get the picture soon enough.

    Bruno @ 11

    Picking on the Florida voters who are being disenfranchised, this is how you spend your day??? Obama supporters will support anything that would help Obama win, and then you point fingers at HRC saying how she will do anythign to win.. Fucking pathetic hypocrisy, what are you so afraid of?

    Florida already voted once, HRC won BIG, and the truth is that the Republicans control the state government, and they are the ones who moved the primary date, and they are the ones who denied the request of the democrats to push the Primary back to Feb. 5th, and for you and the rest of the Obamaniacs to blame the Democratic voters in the BIGGEST SWING STATE in the nation is really awful, and you can go fuck yourself you arrogant prick.

  • @RacerX #9

    For someone who is quote, against the war, like Obama, he sure has a funny way of showing it.

    Were he and Clinton “against the war” when they voted for $500+ billion for Dick’s Private Empire (for such mission critical needs as giving the troops dirty, smelly water) and the continued U.S. Military Occupation of Iraq?

    Were he and Clinton “against the war” when they voted against immediate withdrawal from Iraq/n?

    I guess so, in 1984.

  • …and the truth is that the Republicans control the state government, and they are the ones who moved the primary date… -Greg

    Please, make a list of every Congressional Democrat in Florida who did not support that bill. Actually here, I’ll save you the trouble:

    …and you can go fuck yourself [Bruno,] you arrogant prick. -Greg

    A bit testy today are we? Oh my.

    Bruno, however, is correct when he writes “As a voter, you can’t blame the politicians because YOU are the ones electing them.” That’s the cornerstone of our democracy.

  • Dennis_D,

    A biased person will typically be primed to examples of opposing bias, and find them even where there aren’t any.

    Hillary Clinton is also getting a bump after winning in Texas and Ohio this week.

    It took me all of 10 seconds to find a counter example to your claim of Steve’s bias.

    Ultimately, what does it matter? So what if the site is biased? So what if it isn’t? It’s Mr. Benen’s blog, so he gets to blog about whatever he feels like, be it Obama, Clinton, or the Van Allen belt.

  • doubtful, thank you for helping me to make my point that Obama supporters will support anything that helps their candidate despite what is the right thing to do while crying & pointing fingers at HRC for doing what it takes to win.

    And yes, when you go out of your way to write as much as Bruno did blatently attacking fellow democrats that it is somehow our fault because we elected our state officials, which by the way is absolutely ludicrous, it tends to piss me off.

    You believe that the open caucuses and primaries should count more than Florida, those same contests where republicans overwhelmingly voted for Obama, which you say is because he has the appeal to reach across party lines (bull shit by the way) and yet you fail to see how this is allowing our nominating process to be dictated by Republicans, and this does not cause you any grief at all, but God forbid those Florida democrats want their fucking votes to count, that is just awful.

  • BTW, Florida is a CLOSED PRIMARY.. do the research, HRC does better in most states when outside interference has been removed in this way.

  • Everyone remember the reporter who gave Hil that teary-eyed footage that pushed her to victory in NH?
    She voted for Obama too.

    Is this like a reverse Midas touch?
    Everything that helps her, bites her in the keister.

  • Greg and doubtful, I have figured out that Steve is an Obama supporter. However, he is not a blatant Obama supporter. As such, I would think he would want to report bad news for Obama as well as good news. doubtful, no where in the post you mentioned does it say that Clinton was ahead of Obama. Steve cited “Obama is the favored nominee among 45 percent of Democrats, compared with 44 percent for Clinton, according to the poll”, but left out that that poll showed Clinton doing 1% better vs McCain than Obama.

  • …attacking fellow democrats that it is somehow our fault because we elected our state officials, which by the way is absolutely ludicrous, it tends to piss me off. -Greg

    I don’t really care what pisses you of. Ultimately the people are responsible for the representatives they elect. I don’t know why there is any contention on this point. As I said above it is one of the cornerstones of our democracy. Civics 101.

    …thank you for helping me to make my point… -Greg

    Now you’re just standing on your hands and talking out of the topmost orifice. Just because you say I proved your point, doesn’t make it true, natch.

    BTW, Florida is a CLOSED PRIMARY.. do the research… -Greg

    It’s closed to Republicans. Not to independents.

    Besides, if voting in November was limited to Democrats, you’d have a point, but it’s not, so garnering support from various political stripes is wise. So wise, even Clinton deigns to do so. Just because she’s less successful at it then Obama doesn’t mean those votes should be discounted.

    And I’ve never said I didn’t want Florida or Michigan to count. I think they should get about half their delegates (they should still get some punishment for breaking the rules) if they can manage a re-vote. I still think a re-vote is a bit of a pipe-dream because of all that’s involved, but with all the traction it’s getting it may become a reality.

  • I have figured out that Steve is an Obama supporter. -Dennis_D

    Ooo, ooo…guess me next!

    From my previous cite, after it was established that it was a dead heat overall:

    Clinton wins on “experience”; Obama leads on “change.” Clinton leads on “preparedness”; Obama leads on ability to “inspire the country” and “bring people together.”

    As for the much-scrutinized “3 a.m.” ad, it’s a mixed bag. 45% of poll respondents said they would trust Clinton to answer the call, while a third said the same about Obama.

    Obviously this site is biased towards Democrats. I haven’t seen one positive article about McCain.

  • Are you pretending to know more about Florida’s primary than I do? Remember, I actually voted in Florida’s primary, independants were NOT allowed to vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary, stop making shit up.

  • Greg,

    You sir, are correct. Officially, only registered Democrats would’ve been eligible to vote in your Florida primary. I stand corrected.

    However, CNN’s exit polls do show party affiliation:

    Democrat – 79%
    Republican – 4%
    Independent – 17%

    So I assume those crossovers were motivated to switch official affiliation while retaining their self-identified affiliation, which raises another question about a re-vote:

    Will there be time for crossovers to re-register who would have done so for the first primary had the delegates counted?

  • Greg… By now we all now that you are an ANGRY democratic voter from Florida, as you eloquently showed with name calling and making several assumptions.

    Greg @ post 13 “Picking on the Florida voters who are being disenfranchised, this is how you spend your day??? Obama supporters will support anything that would help Obama win, and then you point fingers at HRC saying how she will do anythign to win.. Fucking pathetic hypocrisy, what are you so afraid of?” –> Where in my post did it betray that I was either an Obama or Clinton supporter? If anything I betrayed that I’m leaning towards a democratic ticket.

    Greg if you read the last paragraph of my post # 11 you’ll notice that I want Republican leaning voters in Florida to stay home and leave the elections to the rest of America, in the event they still consider the best candidates being Republicans. I much rather see a happy Republican sipping a Margarita on the beach this coming November, than a confused – uninformed – uneducated republican showing up at the polling place and do his duty by voting republican without having a clue how destructive their choice is for America.

    You may not like what has been going on in Florida politics, but that doesn’t take away that what I said is true. The truth has a liberal bias, and at times it hurts. As a progressive, I don’t like the fact that for some reason, where I live, it is an overwhelmingly republican voting district. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to start calling someone choice names when they point it out to me. If anything else, I can proudly say, I’ve convinced several staunch republicans to switch their party affiliation to ‘independent’.

    Greg, what are you doing in your State of Florida, to assure the rest of the nation, that you’re educating your fellow republican citizens, that they should not embarrass Florida again by electing another slate of morons?

    Greg, what do you think would be a fair punishment for the State of Florida for not following the rules of the DNC and RNC? Or do you think that Florida voters have the right to allow their elected officials to screw up elections, and have do-overs whenever they brake the rules and don’t like it in hindsight?

    If you think there should be no repercussions for Florida’s rule braking; what do you suggest, when during the next election cycle, every single State decides to move their elections up and forget about any established rules?

    Do you want to live in a country where pretty much every day of every year is considered election season? Personally, I’d prefer to have at least a few years of no talk about election politics in between presidential elections. It would be nice to have a moratorium on any type of presidential campaigning until 18 months before the Presidential election.

  • “Al Sharpton, meanwhile, is threatening to sue the DNC if Florida’s delegates, chosen during a primary boycotted by the candidates and not sanctioned by the DNC, end up getting seated at the convention.”

    Jesus, does this guy ever take a break? This guy is the equivalent of the ambulance chasing trial lawyer.

  • Breaking News!!! Major Political Scandal!!!

    Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable.

    Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

    As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

    If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

    The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket now! All democrats need to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton. So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

    Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

    You should be angry America. “This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)

    Sincerely

    jacksmith…

  • I’m really getting sick of this “true Democrat” argument…what about fellow travelers? What about Limbaugh’s little “Vote for Hillary” campaign? And it turns my gut to hear the same people whining about the “disenfranchisement” of voters in MI and FL who won’t get counted have no problem disenfranchising people who refuse to sign some kind of Democratic loyalty oath and carry around their secret decoder ring and membership card.

    As far as i’m concerned (and i’ve got George Washington in my corner on this one), joining a political party is intellectual laziness. To me, it signifies needing to be with a group of like minded people to validate your beliefs and ideas. I can still give money to a Democratic candidate without joining the party. I can still campaign for a Democratic candidate without joining the party. And i can still vote for a Democratic candidate without joining the party. All that i really miss out on by not joining the party are the feeling of being in a group; not getting hassled for money all the time; and – this being the one that actually bugs me – not having the secret decoder ring.

    The parties don’t get to choose if primaries are open or closed. If the party wants to close itself off, then hold “undemocratic” caucuses and fucking pay for them out of the money sent in from the constant party begging. So long as my state tax dollars are paying for the primary, it damned well better be open to those of us who don’t go in for joining anything.

    And to all of you who keep arguing about who has the support of “true Democrats”: fine, i’ll take my vote and not spend it on Democrats anymore…you’d think that being a Democrat was like joining a no-blacks/no-Jews Country Club or something.

    Michigan’s gonna be complicated to redo. The first problem is how wedded the top Dems in the state (who made the movement decision) are to Clinton. Granholm’s trying to pull an Engler. The larger problem is our open primary. Will only those 600,000 or so who voted in the first primary get to revote? Clinton’s “big win” only garnered 328,151 votes (out of 7+ million registered voters, hell, Romney beat her). Talk about pissing people off who made a decision based on their vote not being worth diddly.

    I don’t think that MI can/should be redone. We had our bed made for us by our incompetent state/party leaders. Punish us as was planned, and let us take our revenge on our elected officials.

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