NY Gov. Spitzer admits involvement in prostitution ring

His first year as New York’s governor has had some ups and downs, but Eliot Spitzer has maintained a reputation as a rising star. In some circles, it’s not unusual to hear talk about Spitzer as a likely presidential candidate at some point in the future.

It’s probably safe to say we won’t hear that kind of talk anymore.

Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day…. Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform an end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers…. An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.

It’s hard to know where to begin with a story like this, but let’s get the obvious point out of the way: it’s hard to believe brilliant people in positions of responsibility could be this stupid and this self-destructive. And yet, here we are.

I suppose a partisan response could be that Sen. David Vitter, the Louisiana “family-values” Republican, was caught up in an alleged prostitution ring of his own, and he ended up getting a standing ovation from the Senate Republican caucus. Larry Craig is still a senator. John McCain committed adultery and he’s the Republican nominee for president. Rudy Giuliani marched in a parade with his mistress and was taken seriously as a presidential candidate. Maybe, then, Spitzer can survive this scandal?

It may be a tall order. Getting caught committing adultery is bad. Getting caught in an expensive prostitution operation — up to $5,500 an hour — while in office is something else.

To be sure, there are facts we do not yet know. Talk about resignations is probably premature, at least a little.

But in case you’re wondering — and I know you are, because I was, too — the Lieutenant Governor of New York is a terrific Democrat named David Paterson, the first African American to hold this position. According to his Wiki entry, he was elected Senate Minority Leader in 2002, “becoming both the first non-white state legislative leader and the highest-ranking black elected official in the history of New York State.” He also is legally blind.

Plenty more to come on this story.

Update: The NYT piece has been updated: “Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been caught on a federal wiretap arranging to meet with a high-priced prostitute at a Washington hotel last month, according to a person briefed on the federal investigation. The wiretap recording, made during an investigation of a prostitution ring called Emperors Club VIP, captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington, where he had reserved a room. The person briefed on the case identified Mr. Spitzer as Client 9.”

I am feeling quite disillusioned right now. I had an enormous amount of respect for Spitzer, who, for whatever faults he may have had as governor, was an excellent Attorney General. Like you, I’m just stunned that someone with such a bright future could be so stupid.

  • Being legall blind, Paterson will certainly be able to say he never saw it coming. Always the best line and strategy in politics. 🙂

  • Sen. David Vitter, the Louisiana “family-values” Republican, was caught up in an alleged prostitution ring of his own, and he ended up getting a standing ovation from the Senate Republican caucus. Larry Craig is still a senator. John McCain committed adultery and he’s the Republican nominee for president. Rudy Giuliani marched in a parade with his mistress and was taken seriously as a presidential candidate. Maybe, then, Spitzer can survive this scandal?

    You’re forgetting the flipside of IOKIYAR.

    INOKIYAD.

    The corporate media will cleverly hide its liberal-ness by making a circus out of this affair.

  • So… people get shocked by this, but McCain, who was also cheating on his wife when he picked up a Blonde half his age, is now the standard-bearer for the Republican Party?

  • But in case you’re wondering — and I know you are, because I was, too

    What could possibly be worth $5500 an hour!?!

  • The NY Sun had an earlier story, “Prostitution Case Features Prosecutors of Corruption”, about a public official being involved in the Emperor Club case. Apparently, all three of the assistant U.S. attorneys assigned to the prosecution are part of the U.S. attorney’s public corruption unit. One is the bureau’s chief, Boyd Johnson III. The unit investigates wrongdoing by both elected and nonelected officials and bureaucrats at various levels.

    I refused to vote for Spitzer because in eight years, he never investigated corruption in the Pataki administration. Maybe Charlie Gargano had the goods on Spitzer.

  • What’s the possibility of some sort of censure? I’m completely unfamiliar with how New York State gov does things. Just cuz Publicans do it doesn’t mean that Democrats should let him skate – but I also don’t think he should be forced out of office or resign for a sexual offence. What is the ethically/morally unimpeachable middle ground here?

  • Yeouch! Check out the link on the club at The Smoking Gun… Damn, a rating system, and scaled prices to match? That could lead to the cat-fight from hell! 😉

    Seriously, inquiring minds want to know– what was the methodology behind the ratings? I assume a composite of appearance, education, etc. But what formula is used to derive the ultimate diamond rating? Seems to me that, if it’s not a fair and objective system, that the ladies involved may have some legitimate EO gripes!

  • Headline needs to clarify a little bit more…was Spitzer involved with a prostitution ring…or prostitutes?

  • It’s a little different in Spitzer’s case. For one thing, he really made his reputation statewide (and beyond) as Mr. Clean–the man who would finally fix Albany. For another, he is absolutely detested amongst both Republicans at the state level (but not correspondingly loved by Democrats who were discomfited by his reform agenda) and by the Wall Street big shots whom he pursued for wrongdoing as Attorney General.

    He just made a very brief statement of public apology and said he’ll be taking time to get right with his family, but no resignation.

    I’m deeply disappointed that his personal irresponsibility is going to make his reform mission that much more difficult. And I don’t share Steve’s confidence in Patterson, who comes from a pretty entrenched political machine and has a bigger stake in the status quo than Spitzer did.

  • Link to NY Sun story here.

    Why was the federal public corruption unit investigating a prostitute ring?

  • One difference between Vitter and Spitzer is that the headlines didn’t read, “Vitter involved in prostitution ring.” I expected this story to suggest he was on the vendor side, not the client side.

  • I’m a big believer in the idea that what happens in the bedroom is nobody’s business but the people IN the bedroom. The only exceptions to this belief are

    1: When people who make a big deal about legislating morality, passing judgment on the morality of others, are proven to be just as human as the rest. From Rudy to Newt Gingrich to Larry Craig, if you’re gonna shout about family values, you best be practicing what you preach.

    2: If you’re a politician and prostitution is involved. Because, with few exceptions, prostitution is against the law. And politicians shouldn’t break the law, whether it’s murder or campaign financing or fraud or embezzlement OR prostitution.

    Certainly not trying to defend Giuliani or Gingrich or Craig or McCain, but their mistresses were mistresses, and/or their attempted transgressions were with consenting adults who weren’t being paid for their services. Craig being more of a wild card, not for it being gay sex, but for it being in a public place, but still, unpaid consenting adults. While I wouldn’t have a problem if prostitution were made legal tomorrow, it’s illegal today. And while I don’t think we have to hold politicians to a higher moral standard, we should hold them to a higher standard if they’re caught breaking the law.

    Of course, this still goes back to IOKIYAR. Dubya’s been caught breaking the law for 7 years, and his idea of “compromise” is to change the law and make it retroactive to when he started breaking it. So it’s very annoying, as a Democrat, to see my civil rights continuously cornholed by an Administration that thinks of the Constitution as a “goddamned piece of paper,” while a crime that affects noone but the people involved & their families becomes the scandal du jour.

  • Hey, here’s a thought: maybe he should resign. If you’re in a high position of power in politics, and your spouse can’t trust you, why should we?If you can’t be trusted by your spouse (and kids), then get out of politics. This is a new era. Get out.

  • I don’t hold Democrats to the same standard I hold Republicans. I HOLD THEM TO A HIGHER STANDARD! And a politican like Elliott Spitzer, who has sold himself as a moral and ethical crusader, I hold to the highest standard of all. This is one of the many reasons I am registered as an independent (though I whould never conceivably vote for a Republican), and why I could never get into politics. The people I feel most sorry for most at the moment, besides Spitzer’s wife and kids, are his staff, and his supporters (of which there are many), who had every reason to believe in Spitzer, since he appeared to walk the walk, and talk the talk. Now, he’s nothing more then the next David Vitter or Larry Craig (and to be fair, the next Gavin Newsome and Antonio Villaraigosa). The mind impoldes.

  • What I would like to hear him say is “What I did to my wife and children was a terrible thing, but I never harmed the people of the state of NY nro would I.”

    Who cares what he does in his off time? No one seems to care about goopers, even when there are underage pages involved.

    Move on, nothing here, right?

    Riiiiiight…let’s hear it Fox, CNN, et al. I doubt it will go away. IOKIYAR. Period.

  • I’m with Dan and Slappy Magoo…adíos, Governor. You were the Attorney General fer chrissakes…

    You are NOT above the law, yet clearly you think that you are. Get the f— out.

  • #18: What I would like to hear him say is
    How could you possibly believe him? If three weeks ago you were to have asked him if he was ever involved in a prostitution ring, do you think he would have told the truth? Why start to believe him now?

  • I for one would like to hear some other Democrats asking very loudly why we were spending so much time investigating prostitutes instead of terrorists.

    And whether this was a sting by federal prosecutors to target prominent Democrats.

    Is it irresponsible to speculate? Is it irresponsible not to….

  • From the NYT article:

    As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

    In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

    “”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

  • I think he needs to resign, immediately. Not because of the sex, but because he was breaking the law. It’s pretty simple actually.

  • #24: What I would like to hear him say is
    Forget about the party for a moment: this hurts all of us, R’s, D’s and I’s. It erodes the faith we have in the people we elect.Get rid of all crooked, lying, cheating, back-stabbing, untrustworthy politicians, and do it now.

  • You wonder why the Repubs seem to own the Dems?
    Dem’s human frailties + unwarranted surveillance = blackmail

    Personally, I would not be surprised that this came about as payback for Spitzer’s crusades against Wall St.

  • I feel the same way I felt when Clinton admitted to the Monica thing:

    You are dead to me. Now and forever. Go fuck yourself.

  • Nope, no excues, he needs to get the hell out of there pronto. Being a fuck up doesn’t mean you have to shed all dignity. At the very least this casts a brigher light on Family Values types like Vitter and Craig: The governor of NY took his lumps, why can’t you guys?

    The only question I have is will the Liberal Media (hahahahaha) do a review of all recent political sex scandals and crimes or just focus on the ones perpetrated by Democrats?

  • I agree with you all that he broke the law and THATs why he should resign. But he should not resign because he is pressured by Fox, et al, or anyone in the Ethicaler than Thou crowd…which was my point, which I didn’t make well. 🙂

  • I don’t find it hard to believe. People’s self destructive tendencies are emotional in nature, and riches, power, and other perks have no real bearing on whether a person has bad habits.

  • Hmmm…apparently he heard me. 😀

    This from TP:

    SPITZER: We sought to bring real change to New York, and that will continue. Today, I want to briefly address a private matter.

    I have acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family, that violates my — or any — sense of right and wrong.

    I apologize first, and most importantly, to my family. I apologize to the public, who I promised better. I do not believe politics in the long run is about individuals. It is about ideas, the public good, and doing what is best for the state of New York.

    But I have disappointed myself and I have failed to live up to the standard I accepted of myself. I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family. I will not be taking questions, thank you very much. I will report back to you in short order. Thank you very much.

  • #31: There are plenty who can run run our government that we can trust.
    #32: I feel that there are a number of reasons why he should resign, breaking the law is certainly a good one, but mostly (for me) because he is untrustworthy. If I can’t trust a politician, why would I want him or her doing my business?

  • Is it really that hard to avoid this sort of thing while you are in office?

    I mean, I tend not to care what politicians choose to do in their private lives. However, these sorts of activities, when they are discovered, are pretty much guaranteed to interfere with the ability of the office holder to perform their duties. And prostitution (regardless of how high class) is still illegal. In that sense, one could argue this is even more severe than adultery; as that is merely immoral.

    Yes, the Republicans are often hypocrites when it comes to this sort of thing. However, this isn’t France. Politicians (of either party) should know that if they are caught, there will be a circus made of it. And while this circus goes on, they are hindered in their ability to serve their constituents. If they don’t care enough about that, then perhaps they shouldn’t hold office. There are plenty of other forms of employment that they can pursue.

    I think Spitzer has done a pretty good job during his career. However, I feel he should honor the wishes of the citizens of New York. If they want him to stay, fine. If they want him to step down, he should acquiesce.

  • I think it meets the hypocrisy test I’d hold for family values Republicans. I am always fascinated how prostitution-for-defense contracts doesn’t get any press, then a Democrat comes along and it’s huge. A big part of it is Dems won’t stand behind a hypocrite like this. So, unlike with a Republican, where you’ll get pushback and called liberal, here you please everyboyd: Dems and Repubs.

  • Oh my God! That was my first thought upon reading this. My second thought was this country has a bug up it’s ass about sex and ought to grow up and get over it (like that’s ever going to happen). Having said that, Mr. Spitzer has prosecuted his share of prostitutes and prostitution rings must therefore resign. It’s the hypocrisy stupid!

  • Here’s the important question about Spitzer: If you take a look at this posted on The Smoking Gun http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0306082emperor2.html it’s clear that those were damn expensive hookers. It’s also clear from this document http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0310082spitzer2.html that “Client 9” was a repeat customer. How was Spitzer paying these bills? It’s one thing if he was paying for them out of his own pocket; it’s a whole different kettle of fish if he was using public money. Can you say, “audit”?

  • This isn’t a sexual offense. If it were, we’d want him gone. -Crissa

    How is arranging to meet and have sex with a prostitute not a sexual offense? I’m genuinely curious.

  • The FBI is in this because it’s an interstate crime. a NY governor reserving a room in DC for a high-priced roll in the hay? Nothing much to it—until he used interstate telephone capacity to arrange the deal.
    Vitter…Craig…McCain…Giuliani—just because they got off the hook doesn’t mean that Spitzer should. I will not play the double-standard game; calling for those previously named to be summarily thrown under the bus, only to turn a blind eye when it’s a Dem who gets caught.

    Toss Spitzer to the curb. If possible, from an upstairs window….

  • Wow. Spitzer obviously must resign. I thought he did a lot of good as NY AG and believed he was charting a course to run for the White House. It just goes to show that many of the leaders of our various governments are deeply flawed and arrogant enough to think they can get away with it. What in the world possessed him?

  • Let’s solve this whole problem Bob Barker style:

    Spay and neuter your politicians.

  • Spitzer, Spitzer, Spitzer….

    If you’re a high powered executive looking to foolishly betray your marriage and mar your leadership legacy, you go to INTERNS, not prostitutes!

    Didn’t you get the memo?

  • With regard to sex sins, Repubs are always running off at the mouth about how holy they are. So I do hold them to a higher standard…a much higher standard When they shut up about this shit…then in their case, I won’t care either.

    In the case of Dems…I couldn’t care less. Prostitution should be legal for adults, and Americans need to grow up. Spitzer cheated on his wife (which I abhor), and the problem is their problem. It’s none of our business.

  • I can’t believe Spitzer paid that much. I’ve paid less than $150 for perfect 10s…several times.

  • If Spitzer is Client #9, he is doing unsafe things of which we know not of.

    From the transcript:

    LEWIS continued that from what she had been told “he” (believed to be a reference to Client-9) “would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe – you know – I mean that . . . very basic things. . . . “Kristen” responded: “I have a way of dealing with that . . . I’d be like listen dude, you really want the sex? . . . You know what I mean.”

    Will Hillary denounce and reject Spitzer?

  • New York Governor Spitzer is innocent because E.A. Blayre III is Client #9. Seriously though, all politicians are prostitutes. It is natural for them to be drawn to their own kind. Party makes no difference. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon, warrant-less wiretapping and the Patriot Act. Remember, they are all prostitutes.

  • His first year as New York’s governor has had some ups and downs

    It had ups? That’s news to me.

    Yes, both ups and downs. Between the sheets, that is.

  • #49: It is our business: how do you trust a politician to represent you when he can’t even be trusted by his family? Does he care more about you than his family? He betrayed them…

  • Funny how CNN, Rueters, AP, or most other news agencies do not mention as “Eliot Spitzer (D-NY)”. If this had been a republican, It would have been written as this “Republican Joe Schmoe (R-YZ)”. They would have hyped the party so much. It is funny how I had to go to 6 news sites to find out what party affiliation he was

  • Damn… this is a tragedy. I have been following his career for some time now, and I have rarely been inspired as I was when he spoke. But….. he’s done, stick a fork in him. What a waste…

  • #55… yeah, whatever. Fox news often “mistakenly” identifies scandal-ridden Repubs as Democrats. Give me a break…

  • I don’t hold Democrats to the same standard I hold Republicans. I HOLD THEM TO A HIGHER STANDARD! And a politican like Elliott Spitzer, who has sold himself as a moral and ethical crusader, I hold to the highest standard of all.

    Indeed. We expect tawdry scandals from Republicans, and we tolerate them, at best, from some Democrats. We didn’t really expect better of Bill Clinton. But not only did we expect better of Spitzer, we demanded it, because he set his own standards.

    Whatever the immediate fallout from this, he’s finished. His schtick was that he was better than the rest of them; now that he’s proven this to be a lie, there is no recovering from that.

  • I also think the actions of our leaders are important. Leadership isn’t the same thing as fixing a faucet or putting a roof on a house. Anyone can do a specifc job in manual labor no matter what their character is. Leading a city is not like that. It would be a shallow view to assume that a person that knows one plus two is three can LEAD a city. It takes a person with a stronger sense of moral fiber, character and general leadership ability to make important decisions regarding the future of the city. If you are going to prosecute prostitution rings, while you have one… how can you not see the delemia there? That is a very interesting view you have..

  • #57, I would like an example… I wouldn’t think of writing something and state it as fact without sourcing it…

  • I’ll tell you what. You used Fox as an example,
    I’ll dig up the archive of Halliburton for you, and see if party affiliation was used…

  • Checked McCain’s alledged affair, and yes, sited as Republican

    …i’ll check a few more and get back to you 🙂

  • And all I did was search “Identifies” and “misidentifies” on the newshounds.org search engine. Imagine if I made an effort!

  • The rumors are already out that Spitzer will resign. What an elected official does with their naughty bits isn’t my problem as long as it isn’t using company time, taxpayer dollars, blackmail or prevents them from otherwise being a good public servant. That goes for both Republicans and Dems.

    I get the feeling Spitzer has been riding on too high a moral horse in his careers as prosecutor and governor to be able to adequately do his job with the albatross of his own immorality hampering his every move.

    It looks like the six diamond hooker costs $5,500 an hour AND your career. I doubt he thinks that price was worth it now.

  • When are we going to grow up, legalize adult prostitution and stop exposing each other on the sex shit? Crap like this should be the least of our (i.e. America’s) worries.

  • I am never going to live in NY state so my opinion doesn’t really matter, but I don’t think prostitution should be illegal so this doesn’t bother me except insomuch as he made a stupid mistake. From what I have read he and his staff have made plenty of those politically the last year so this is just one more in the mix. It should be a bigger problem with his wife than the public, if I were her and I didn’t know then I would be very angry right now.

    As for the headline, add me to the list who thinks the way this is being covered makes it sound like Spitzer was running the thing on the side. He was a client, like many politicians before him, and I had to read the story to find that out because “admits involvement” sounds a hell of a lot more serious.

    Anyway, if this sort of thing wasn’t fatal for Vitter the moralist then I don’t see how it could be for Spitzer, though I’m sure the same Republican who argued that it was none of our business with Vitter will be saying that Spitzer should resign. Always be wary of people who claim they’re more moral than you, like the hypocritical gasbag brigade the conservative movement trots out on TV every day.

  • I agree, why is the headline (here and the NYT) “involved in prostitution ring”? It really does sound like he was involved in running it.

  • I gotta say that it pisses me off when Democrats get caught up in these sorts of scandals. The stakes are so high for the party and the people that these guys are supposed to represent, but they still can’t keep their trousers zipped? Yeah, I was pretty angry with Bill Clinton, too. What might he have accomplished if he hadn’t had to spend so much time fighting to finish out his second term?

  • I do regreat Fox’s blunder. I don’t watch or listen to Fox, even though I vote about 65-70% Republican. I just don’t care for them. Though you are correct, It would still be nice, however, to use a common editorial notation on the subject that is common-practice in every editoral sense.
    But all-in-all, thank you for posting those for my knowledge. I appreciate it.

  • short hussein fuse; get a life. Don’t be so angry and dramatic. You make normal people look bad. I don’t share your views but I respect almost everyone on this blog. You make the other Democrats look bad. Luckily I don’t judge everyone based on the actions of one. You should think the same way. Just because Fox is stupid, It shouldn’t take candor and debat to new lows. Please, get real.

  • When I used the term ‘sexual offense’ I was afraid that some of the abusive connotations would be there – but I was in a hurry. I agree that a former attorney general who prosecuted sex workers is worse in the ethical realm than the average politician who has sex with someone other than her/his monogamous partner – but they are all humans, even the Publicans, just like us. Sexual feelings are incredibly potent, and for some the urges getter more unbearably potent as they grow older, and face the knowledge that they are getting closer to the time when they won’t ever have another chance.

    We as a culture are more squeamish about this than most, and criminalize transgressions that shouldn’t be treated in the same severe manner as robbery and murder, etc. etc. Note that I am not arguing that some sexual transgressions are not deserving of some serious jail time. But imagine our House of Representatives if Barney Frank had been expelled rather than censured, which he deserved for his steps over the line. Imagine that Bill Clinton had been censured rather than impeached.

    I think that Gov. Spitzer should be censured in some serious form, at the very least. But do we really want to throw away every thing else he brings to the office he occupies? If so, do we promise to always hold ourselves to the standards that we are demanding of him, and to never give in to temptation no matter how fierce it might be?

  • Dang John Spillane, you caught me off guard… right on. Sorry to be a bit mean-spirited… it’s just I’m not used to folks coming from the other end of the spectrum to be reasonable. Thank you, as well.

  • I agree that what a person does in his off time is their own business. However there are a couple of things that make this more than just a question of personal morals or lack of the same. First, if he hadn’t been outed he would become a prime target for blackmail if somebody whom he or his people were investigating knew what the public did not. It would certainly seem to compromise his ability to make public decisions based upon the merits of the facts. Secondly, the question of where the money for her services was coming from. Then there is the question of his judgement. Didn’t he understand that as soon as the girl knew who he was his fate was in her hands? I wonder if he understood that he was now like the mythical King; (Damocles), who must always live with a sword hanging over his head. Last question, as somebody above suggested; was this a routine FBI prostitution ring wiretap or was it a result of the NSA’s alleged ability to monitor all our domestic communications all the time, (the Total Information Awareness Program), then when it suited them to filter out and record his specific communications?
    DC

  • No, you were right. And I think with politics, all sides can come off a bit rough. It’s just such an important issue. I think 95% of us would be buying each other beers in a bar.

  • John Spillane, as you took the high road by admitting you were wrong on a point above… I will attempt to do my part. I’m sorry I offended you. I was too quick to assume you were posting in bad faith.

  • I wonder if that is $5500.00 per hour plus traveling time? That could add up to real money if the plane is delayed! — David Chisholm, @85

    According to TPM, she was gonna take the train and I think the travel time was included. But he was paying the ticket and everything else. What I really want to know is where was the money coming from? “No dear, you can’t redo the bathroom; I need that cash for an evening out with a hooker” wouldn’t go very far with most wives.

    I’m sure the same Republican who argued that it was none of our business with Vitter will be saying that Spitzer should resign — Shalimar, @77

    Not only that; they want every Dem in NY to return his tainted money, now that they’re tarred with the same brush 🙂

    Sigh… There used to be a custom — in the Middle Ages — which made one disarm (unbuckle the sword and leave it at the entrance) when entering a church. I wish there was a custom now, which would make all our elected officials tie a knot on (in?) their dicks, before taking office.

  • Aren’t a couple of key legal pieces that he used the US post office to commit a crime (if he mailed her the money, as some of the reports have suggested) and the logistics (and by that, I mean the hooker) crossed state lines? Eliot would know better than me (I’m doing this from memory from a college 101 course at a state school), but I think that one or both of those turns this into a federal offense.

  • Actually, I did try searching out his support of Clinton, and didn’t find it.

    But you know what? There’s nothing more efficient than a bunch of geeks who know someone was incorrect. ^-^

    Also… Still not a sexual offense. None of the evidence against him is that he engaged in non-consensual sexual behavior. Or even any sexual behavior at all.

  • Fuse, actually I think I may have been a little over-board too. I am sure that you have met many extreem “rights” that were pretty offensive and rude. I have met many of them and they disgust me. I should have given benefit of doubt that you just thought I was like them. Anyway… were not all that “right” and were not all that bad!! 🙂 Take care and keep blogging!!

    Libre, unfortunatly you are right about Vitter. I personally, believed that it was better to resign (for Vitter). It may not be a bad idea for Spitzer as well.
    Anyway, I took Joe & Fuse’s idea and googled “scandle” wikipedia has a listing of all of the major ones.

    It doesn’t matter Republican or Democrate… there are major scandals on all sides (surprisingly even). I think that we need to elect Republicans and Democrates (&Indi’s) who have character and can be above reproach.

    I say lets at least try to keep the Vitter’s & the Spitzers out so the media wont be running worthless trash on the news that does nothing for our country. We have better things to focus on like: a war NO one wants, economy that needs more than a bandaid, healthcare, employment and other such issues to deal with.

    Off my soapbox. Glad I got that off my chest!!

  • Spitzer should resign. So should Vitter. Their behavior is not what we want from public officials — especially from those who make their careers as moralists. That said, why aren’t we hearing about Clients #1- through #100? Or whatever the high number is. How is it that Spitzer was singled out?

  • I think Spitzer cheated because too many wives don’t do certain things that men want. I know a lot of prostitutes and they all say if wives would perform regularly and with more variety they would be out of work.

  • Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake brings up some very good questions about this mess:

    1. Why would the bank tell the IRS and not Spitzer himself if there was a suspicious transfer? Spitzer is a longtime client, a rich guy and the governor. We’re talking thousands of dollars here, not millions. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense that they spotted a “suspicious transfer” made by the governor, and that this is how things began. It’s possible it was just ordinary paperwork the bank had to file with the government whenever some particular flag was raised, but if that’s the case, why did the DoJ go to DefCon 3?

    2. What is a USA doing prosecuting a prostitution case? This isn’t normally what the feds spend their time with.

    3. Mike Garcia is a Chertoff crony. Sources familiar with the investigation say that he sent a prosecution memo to DC two months ago asking for authority to indict a public figure (Spitzer). Which means they had their case made long before the wire tap of February 13. Why did they then include this line from that conversation in the complaint?

    LEWIS continued that from what she had been told “he” (believed to be a reference to Client-9) “would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe — you know — I mean that…very basic things….”Kristen” responded: “I have a way of dealing with that…I’d be like listen dude, you really want the sex?…You know what I mean.”

    This salacious detail does not seem like it’s necessary to make their case, and appears to be added for no other purpose than to destroy Spitzer’s career.

    4. How did Spitzer’s name get leaked to the media, and who did it? Didn’t happen to Dave Vitter.

    5. Why did Mike Bloomberg suddenly start talking about running for governor recently? And why did he give $500,000 to Joe Bruno? He’s good buddies with Mike Mukasey. What did he know and how did he know it?

    6. The Mann Act? Are you kidding?

    7. Spitzer’s been in the line of fire of the GOP hit squad for a while. Roger Stone, Roger Stone, Roger Stone.

    There are all kinds of things about this that just don’t pass the smell test.

  • instead of spending so much on women, he should`ve helped the poor achieve a better life, what a bastard. I took an exotic vacation once in the caribbean and spent the $4k in a weekend, not a few hours. And even the women where much better ( I stayed at an escorts resort ) http://www.charlisangels.com was the hotel, not the mayflower ( never do this at home ).

  • Here we go with another high profile politician turning out to be a super-hypocrite, if what he is being accused of is true. He aplogized but didn’t say the accusations were correct. Trust in government just dropped another notch, which puts it below zero, I suppose.

    Sen. McCain put “restoration of trust in government” at the top of his to-do list in a speech yesterday. Tall order for him or any of the presdiential candidates.

  • This is a real odd one.

    Spitzer is being investigated by a unit that goes after corrupt officials.

    Well I guess it takes one to know one. The prosecutor they named, Boyd Johnson was the prosecutor on the Noorzai heroin dealer case. He was taken off for allegations of corruption, that was in the NYT a little while ago.

    So now Johnson is prosecuting Spitzer and the escort ring people? Was he the only prosecutor they had left?

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  • John Spillane, as you took the high road by admitting you were wrong on a point above… I will attempt to do my part. I’m sorry I offended you. I was too quick to assume you were posting in bad faith.

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