Bush’s economic talk is ‘too far afield of reality’

The president spoke to the Economic Club of New York on Friday, delivering a speech that was apparently intended to help reassure the markets and investors that the Bush administration is aware of the economic downturn, and is prepared to take steps to address the problem.

I think it’s safe to say that Bush came up short. When more people appear exasperated by a speech than reassured by it, it’s not a good sign. By the time the president told his audience, “You’ve helped make our country really in many ways the economic envy of the world,” most of the people listening were probably thinking to themselves, “Really?”

The NYT’s Gail Collins noted that it was hard not to “wonder what the international financial community makes of a country whose president could show up to talk economics in the middle of a liquidity crisis and kind of flop around the stage as if he was emcee at the Iowa Republican Pig Roast.”

We’re really past expecting anything much, but in times of crisis you would like to at least believe your leader has the capacity to pretend he’s in control. Suddenly, I recalled a day long ago when my husband worked for a struggling paper full of worried employees and the publisher walked into the newsroom wearing a gorilla suit.

The country that elected George Bush — sort of — because he seemed like he’d be more fun to have a beer with than Al Gore or John Kerry is really getting its comeuppance. Our credit markets are foundering, and all we’ve got is a guy who looks like he’s ready to kick back and start the weekend.

If you haven’t seen it, the speech is worth reading, if for no other reason because it’s amazing how odd Bush’s priorities seem. In the midst of a mortgage crisis, credit crunch, plunging dollar, weak growth, and stagnant employment market, the president emphasized urging Congress to “cut the number of, cost of earmarks in half,” and make his fiscally ridiculous tax cuts permanent.

As the NYT editorial board noted today, “This was too far afield of reality to be dismissed as simple cheerleading.”

Mr. Bush said he was optimistic because the economy’s “foundation is solid” as measured by employment, wages, productivity, exports and the federal deficit. He was wrong on every count. On some, he has been wrong for quite a while.

Mr. Bush boasted about 52 consecutive months of job growth during his presidency. What matters is the magnitude of growth, not ticks on a calendar. The economic expansion under Mr. Bush — which it is safe to assume is now over — produced job growth of 4.2 percent. That is the worst performance over a business cycle since the government started keeping track in 1945.

Mr. Bush also talked approvingly of the recent unemployment rate of 4.8 percent. A low rate is good news when it indicates a robust job market. The unemployment rate ticked down last month because hundreds of thousands of people dropped out of the work force altogether. Worse, long-term unemployment, of six months or more, hit 17.5 percent. We’d expect that in the depths of a recession. It is unprecedented at the onset of one.

Mr. Bush was wrong to say wages are rising. On Friday morning, the day he spoke, the government reported that wages failed to outpace inflation in February, for the fifth straight month. Productivity growth has also weakened markedly in the past two years, a harbinger of a lower overall standard of living for Americans.

Exports have surged of late, but largely on the back of a falling dollar. The weaker dollar makes American exports cheaper, but it also pushes up oil prices. Potentially far more serious, a weakening dollar also reduces the Federal Reserve’s flexibility to steady the economy.

Finally, Mr. Bush’s focus on the size of the federal budget deficit ignores that annual government borrowing comes on top of existing debt. Publicly held federal debt will be up by a stunning 76 percent by the end of his presidency. Paying back the money means less to spend on everything else for a very long time.

Given all of this, is it any wonder we’re starting to hear more comparisons between Bush and Herbert Hoover?

Given all of this, is it any wonder we’re starting to hear more comparisons between Bush and Herbert Hoover?

And it’s not just because he sucks!

  • I’m going to have to agree with President Bush – HANDS OFF the economy!

    Everything this man touches turns to $hit!

    The economy is certainly in the tank – we’re just trying to figure out how bad.

    Let’s leave fixing this mess to the next President. Bush has augered enough stufff into the ground already.

  • because i can’t resist, it’s also worth noting that discussing the budget deficit without distinguishing between the out-of-control general fund deficit and the unified deficit is another sign of a clueless liar: the part of the budget that he is responsible for is the general fund. he is simply abusing the prefunding of social security, as all of us reading this blog know.

  • Just remeber, McCain wants to keep the same economic policies as Bush, so get ready for four more years of the same if you elect McCain

    As an economics major I’ve always wondered what it would be like to see a massive worldwide depression occur, from an academic point of view it sounds interesting, maybe i’d be able to write a thesis on it, seems I might get that wish if things continue

  • Hey— Carpetbagger, I mean you— quit bustin’ on Hoover! That guy at least had the deceny to come from Vermont, whereas Dubya won’t even visit the state (and a real pity, that, considering the various townhall resolutions to impeach/arrest and charge with war crimes…).

  • Hoover was a professional — a successful mining engineer, and ran an international relief operation that remains a model its kind. His stint at Commerce was the beginning of the (ever-less) regulated radio industries we have today.

    His handling of the Depression was an unmitigated disaster, but he doesn’t deserve comparison with Bush. After all, he only fcuked up the biggest challenge that ever confronted him, not every challenge,

  • As an economics major I’ve always wondered what it would be like to see a massive worldwide depression occur, from an academic point of view it sounds interesting, maybe i’d be able to write a thesis on it, seems I might get that wish if things continue

    If you’re in America, some (semi-snarky) suggestions: Purchase a manual typewriter, ribbon, correction fluid and carbons. Also an oil or propane lamp or two. That way if we go through prolonged power outages you’ll be able to keep working.

  • I thought Hoover was from Iowa.

    It really is unfair to compare Dubya to Hoover – unfair to Hoover, that is. Hoover was a decent guy, albeit without the intellectual toolbox to respond effectively to the Great Depression. Dubya, aside from being a cheat, a liar and a fool, has an intellectual toolbox made by Playskool.

  • Just a simple reminder for everyone (Liberal, Progressive, Conservative—heck, there’s room in this thing even if you’re a three-legged Martian with a limp!) who wants the idiot-in-chief gone—we declared our independence from an earlier rendition of “George Rex” on July 4th—and Bastille day is July 14. Given that FOX was willing to give both Schumer and Dodd a bully-pulpit against Bu$h, it could be safe to say that a portion the Right is now willing to join with the Left to finally embrace the need to “refresh the tree of Liberty.”

    The Republic now demonstrates symptoms—at the beginning of a recession, no less—that are endemic to the depths of a recession. If I recall my history correctly, the last time that actually happened was during the winter of 1929/30, and further into 1930 itself, when Hoover made a speech no less nonsensical than the one just made by Bu$h. Add to that the concept that a rapidly-sinking USD is still the benchmark support mechanism for global oil prices—coupled with the implosion of American-based investment packaging that conceals the full nature of the subprime apocalypse—and I think it might be same to start mentioning the economic “d” word.

    Y’know, the one that links to Hoover….

  • Bush has been saying the same useless drivel for over seven years and *now* the media is finally realizing what a disconnected pathetic fool he is? I know the phrase ‘better late than never’, but really, the media enablers who let themselves be used as mere stenographers for the Republican party for so long owe us a little more contrition than that.

  • An unnamed White House aide told Ron Suskind that guys like Suskind were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” Suskind continues: I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html

    How is making your own reality working out for the economy right now, Mr. President? Iraq? Afghanistan? The 2006 elections? The 2008 elections?

    Sometimes old-fashioned ideas about objective realty have a way of biting you in the butt when you least expect it.

  • Americans have had a few beers with Bush, and now, finally, they’re getting a little drunk, a little antagonistic, and are ready to throw him out of The AmericanBar. They’re saying, “let’s roll”…

  • Jeebus, what did you expect? John S. McCain has admitted to “not knowing much about economics” – still, if he can even do simple addition and subtraction, he’s a species worth of removes ahead of Bush. Did anyone seriously expect him to develop a head for business after he ruined every economic venture he ever touched before ascending to the presidency? Bush is dumb, is comfortable being dumb, and is inordinately proud of his dumbness – he sees it as an American success story, in which the likable putz triumphs over the elitist snobs. He sees it that way because it’s pretty close to the truth, except that elitists are not necessarily snobs. And that he’s not really likable.

    Everybody thinks it’s funny now, the preznit yukking it up, clowning for the media. It’s not remotely funny. America’s money is being flung into the wind, and people are suffering because of it. Maybe not starving to death, literally, but getting further and further behind the curve and scrabbling to catch up. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR THIS.

  • Mark, one thing you should understand is that while Bush is an idiot, unfortunately there are millions of greater idiots who gladly followed him four years ago, and those idiots are likely going to vote for McCain in november, and the MSM isn’t helping by attacking Obama while it plays softball with McCain and Hillary on even bigger issues, if it even mentions them at all.

  • My bumper sticker: 20 January 2009: The end of an error.

    If only it were so simple. My guess is that by 20 January 2009 the dimensions of this recession, or depression, will be more obvious. Whoever inherits this mess has quite an unenvious job to do. Are any of them up to it? McSame certainly isn’t. There’s no precedent for the amount of damage that Bush has done, and the best economic minds around will find putting Humpty-Dumpty back together again a puzzle of probably too many pieces. We ‘re just in for a bad time. Unfortunately, if the next few years turn out to be very bad whoever is in office then will get tarred with the blame, just as Carter got stuck with rising oil prices, and Reagan reaped the benefit of low ones when neither of them had much to do with the changes.

    Actually Bush is an elitist snob putz who pretends to be likeable by appealing to mediocrity. His boast at a Yale commencement about how far his ‘C’ average got him should be his epitaph. Stick it, you summa-cum-laudes! (If he only knew what that meant.) Of course when you’re as dumb as a nightstand it helps when you’ve been bailed out of every mess you’ve ever made by Daddy’s rich friends. This mess, however, will stick, and I’ll happily carve “Here lies a man with a ‘C’ average who became president” onto his tombstone if I outlive him.

  • You’re absolutely correct, axt113, and as I just remarked on another thread in this blog, that might not make a difference in the final analysis. Those voters are never going to vote for Obama anyway, and McCain is not “wasting his time” with a broadly inclusive campaign. He’s locked up the nomination, and now he’s concentrating on winning over the base. He believes he can win without any support from Democrats, and every day that the media baits the two candidates into taking another swing at each other plays into McCain’s hands. If the Democratic electorate ends up paralyzed on election day and half of them don’t vote – or worse, vote for McCain in protest – McCain will walk away with the prize. Do you think McCain will thank Democrats for helping him win the White House? In a pig’s eye. He despises everything you stand for, and he will use any opportunity he is given to push an agenda of war and destruction.

  • Henry– ouch! yup, that’s what happens when I leave my state for a decade… forget all of my history.

  • Oddly enough, thought Geroge W compares himself to many of our great and very good Presidents, the ones he’s most like he doesn’t claim a similarity.

    He’s not just like Hoover financially, stock market, recession/depression/ anti-regulation, housing market foreclosures and Hoovervilles. There was also the Great Flood of 1927 where hundreds of levees broke and parts os Ms, La, and Ark were drowned. Hoover actually made it down, by train, in less time than it took W to get off his vacation and his fund-raising trip.

    Start planning your gardens now, food prices will keep soaring. Soup kitchens and bread lines are coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

    Now we just have to decide who our next FDR will be.

    CB, Greg Pallast had an interesting “follow the money” take on the Elliot Spitzer, and the 200$ million loan to the bank. Do you know anything about that?

  • I am so sick and tired of hearing the Bush administration talk about how the economy is “hurting” or Paulson saying the economy is having a “tough patch”. Are they blind or do they just think the American public is stupid? Do they not see the dollar at record lows versus the GBP, EUR, CAD and now CHF? Record oil and gas prices? Only reason exports have increased is because of he weak dollar. I think it would be irresponsible to say we are not in the midst of a recession just because they are looking at a dictionary definition. I think this is the beginning of a history downturn in the economy. Growing countries like China, India and the Mid east country are not going to stop growing so oil and food prices will just keep growing. This is probably the first time we have seen this type of economic situation thanks to the world economy. It does not matter what we do when what is affecting us is what others are doing. Oh yes and it doesn’t help that we keep allowing high paying jobs to go overseas and also that we keep spending our money on the countries that are helping to take us down.

  • I watched Bush’s speech Friday and you had to see it to believe that a president of the United States could be so damned stupid and so arrogant about his stupidity. Future historians will hold up this speech as one that defines the Bush administration.

  • What will be the fix? We won’t leave Iraq anytime soon so thats billions a month of spending. China’s appetite for oil is not going to decrease anytime soon. The mortgage/credit crisis is no going to be an overnight fix. Our trade deficit with China keeps going up even with the food/lead crisis last year. Can anyone remember another time in history where the country had so many economic issues going on at the same time? I can see one or two issues getting fixed over time but like I stated I believe we are heading into a historic mess for the economy.

  • I like visting this site.I don’t disagree with a lot of the views that are put forth here.
    I am fifty six , white male,voted since 1976. I am rich. I look at the world I live in and I am LUCKY! I am not rich either. We have come to a cross roads in this country. The representatives we elect have little incentive to fix a promlem of their own creation. They have bankrupted this country as sure as Orange County California exists. Some where along the way our representatives decided that they were federal employee’s. They set pay rules insurance and perks only for them selves. Did I say retirement, they have the best deals. There is no retirement age.
    We are not addicted to oil,We are to spending money we don’t have. If any body on this blog believes that this election will fix any thing that is happening ,It will not.
    I feel all legislators are local and the state that they are elected from should be responsible for their compensation and benifits. This would remove a sense of entitlement . If you look at jobs created in the last twenty years,it will become apparent the US government Is the largest employer We have a financial
    model that can not sustainand and both parties are responsable. See you in the poor house The last super power said that

  • Axt113, one thing you should understand is that while Bush is an idiot, his neocon handlers are not. His positions are consistent and effective. Creating DHS is a major departure from conventional small-government GOP policy. But it is perfectly consistent with neocon disaster capitalism. Nation building is not conventional GOP policy. But it is perfectly consistent with neocon disaster capitalism. The objective of Shrub’s handlers is to shrink the government to a shell and outsource its functions to private corporations for-profit – from education (vouchers) to retirement (private SS accounts) to prisons (CCA) to homeland security (GE) to wars (Blackwater). It represents huge profits for the wealthy and a disaster for the tax payers.

    Do you think the dismantling of the DOE while tossing the prospect of vouchers to the Amerikan Taliban isn’t a 2-fer for the GOP? Do you think Corrections Corporation of America will run campaigns to decriminalize possession? Do you think the unconstitutional Blackhawk Army won’t return serious dividends to war hawks who create opportunities to kill? Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran. Do yourself a huge favor and read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.

    Miguel VA, read Shock Doctrine. You will see how this mess you define represents a neocon’s wet dream. Expect to see strong arguments for drilling in Alaska. Speaking of oil, I have followed Kevin Drum’s take on oil for years. It is his opinion that the ME can no longer cushion price shock since the recent escalation of demand by developing countries has pushed us up against a production wall. Economists talk about demand and dollar but are quite silent about capacity. Guess we wouldn’t want the sleeping masses to panic. Could lead to rationing and a Depression.

  • Bush’s handlers may not be stupid but the public that voted for him and will vote for McCain are

  • How are those Reagan-era economic policies working out for America? We could probably generate great revenues by taxing politicians’ prostitute activities, but since that will never happen, we are stuck with our economic meltdown. What’s so funny is how SMALL the government is making the text for their Mass Layoffs summary.

    Gee, maybe if it’s small enough, no one will bother reading it!

    Here are some highlights, including the 10 industries reporting the highest numbers of mass layoff claims:

    1 ) Temporary help services
    2 ) School and employee bus transportation
    3 ) Automobile manufacturing
    4 ) Professional employer organizations
    5 ) Discount department stores
    6 ) Light truck and utility vehicle manufacturing
    7 ) Highway, street, and bridge construction
    8 ) Motion picture and video production
    9 ) Wood kitchen cabinet and countertop manufacturing
    10 ) Farm labor contractors and crew leaders

    And why are farm laborers being laid off? Why don’t some of you start blogging about the Prison labor now being used to pick our fruits and veggies. Plenty of mandatory minimum workers for deep discount wages, that’s for sure!

  • Bear Stearns to announce Sale or Bankruptcy on Monday

    So that money loaned by the Fed just went poof!

    (Actually it went to all the rich folks bailing out while the bailing was good.)

    And the rest of you (losing houses, jobs, pensions, your life savings) can eat cake!

  • See a pattern here? The middle class is slowly being squeezed to death. In the first years following The Decider’s ill-advised adventure in Iraq and the tax cuts and the beginning of the economic meltdown, stores like Sharper Image reported healthy boosts in sales, while stores like Wal-Mart reported baffling drop-offs in theirs. Which group shops at Wal-Mart?

  • Well… Why does anybody think that Bush doesn’t know what he’s talking about? He knows exactly what he’s talking about.

    He’s dealing with the economy in the exact same manner as he did with ‘global climate change’ as well as the ‘war on terror’

    –> You first deny there are any problems

    –> You decide to set up a committee to discuss whether you need to do something about it

    –> You try to run out the clock

    –> You blame it on the next administration – if it is a Democratic President.

    –> You blame it on the Democratic Congress – if it is a Republican Administration

    They make up their own reality. It doesn’t matter that the Democratic Senate only has 49 democrats, or that some of those are voting Republican. It doesn’t matter how many “Freedman’ units they get to prove how their ideas work. It doesn’t matter how high the price of oil goes. It doesn’t matter how low the dollar sinks…

    As far as Republicans are concerned you focus on the ‘one’ positive sliver, and that is all that matters, regardless of the BS shoveled to the masses previously.

    There will always be some progress in Iraq, somewhere, regardless of the conditions getting worse. There will always be some wacko scientist who ‘proves’ that Global warming isn’t caused by humans. There will always be environmentalists to blame for not allowing them to drill in Anwar. And the list goes on…

  • Mark, while I agree with you in principle, Sharper Image isn’t a good reference point as I do believe they just filed bankruptcy.

    And George W. Botch lying and being clueless? Color me surprised. But both he and his neocon handlers are doing just what they want to do; decimate America to take more and more of our current and future tax dollars and place them handily in their pockets.

    Randy, you answered my question as to WHY they keep increasing the prison population because they have to feed and house them and I was missing the WHAT’S IN IT FOR THEM aspect, because neocons don’t give two shits about people and to have to feed, clothe and house all those icky coloreds, well, now I understand why. It makes complete sense – how I didn’t catch that earlier, well, shame on me. How VASTLY ugly is our country becoming?

  • […] the president told his audience, “You’ve helped make our country really in many ways the economic envy of the world,” — CB

    Probably right, too. In what other country do CEOs of the money industry take home pay-checks which are comparable to those our bankers take home? And, what other country bails them out, time after time, without any reduction in those obscene pay-checks, no matter how much they screw-up (through simple miscalculation or through greed)?

  • Also no one has noted that the Doha round is pretty much dead, especially since the G-4 negotiations have broken down, meaning no agreements in the next few months and france which is about to get the EU chair has protectionist leanings, and won’t agree to the farm subsidy cuts, so expect a future full of trade wars and high tariffs, one of the causes of the first great depression

  • Hoover ? You’re comparing him to Hoover ? You have the first letter right. Comparing him to Hoover gives a bad name to vacuum cleaners and bad presidents everywhere.

    Try Hitler.

    He’s got nearly as much blood on his hands, although he’s much stupider and incompetent at virtually everything. Hitler was a monster, but he had a few redeeming skills as far as the art of dictatorship went.

    But of course: you typists will sit back and let him melt this country down into molten dogshit and start World War III without doing anything about it. He needs to be legally/constitutionally removed from that office this week — although that is about five years overdue.

    Is there anyone, anywhere in any job in the world — never mind the presidency of the usa — that would be allowed to remain in their position following such a staggering unbroken string of crimes, incompetency, recklessness, and lying ? Just quit your bitching — you have what you deserve.

  • timeoutofmind @ 36

    You’re right: ” you have what you deserve ”

    The dyed-in-the-wool Republicans have what they deserve; because they don’t understand what this country needs. That much is true.

    The Democrats have what they deserve; because all the petty infighting and trying to please everybody.

    The Democrats are to blame for not doing a better effort educating the so-called ‘Independents’ about what is going on.

    The Democrats are to blame for not doing a better job at convincing the ‘room-temperature-IQ / social conservatives / fundamental Christians to stay home on election day.

    What are the Democrats doing for the 2008 election cycle?

    –> fighting amongst each other. Check, when looking at the Hillary – Obama feud.
    –> doing a lousy job educating so called ‘Independents’. Check, if you believe some of the latest polls showing that they are leaning towards McCain.
    –> convincing the intellectually lazy, ignorant masses to stay home. Because the Republicans are doing a good job at that themselves for now.

    We don’t need some ideologically pure Democrat to start insisting on pushing equal rights for gays, Abortion rights, Separation of Church and State, Gun Control, and many more issues. Those are guaranteed issues to bring the idiots out for a vote. Keep those off the front page.

    Focus on the Economy and the War in Iraq. Most ‘idiots’ don’t understand those issues, and rather stay home because they don’t care about that as much as meddling in other people’s private lives. Sure the bad economy is hurting them, but they will take it up the chin and blame the current administration for that.

  • Bear Stearns sold to JP Morgan for $2 dollars a share.

    Now we’ll have a bunch of MSM pundits talking about all that money that went up in smoke except that not all of that money went up in smoke.

    I’m sure Bush was trying to kick this can down the road too and blame “someone else”. It looks like happy talk will not suffice for this particular can (or all the rest truth be told).

    I’m afraid we let President Bush touch Wall Street a bit too much and it’s now turned to $HIT. (Banking regulation changes anyone?)

    That’ll teach us.

  • those financial firm failures are happening because of the Democrats playing politics and not giving him exactly everything they way he wants it.

    Especially the “Protect America Act” and the eavesdropping issue; that would explain why they are failing…. Ever since the democrats refused to extend it, they were unable to listen in on phone conversations from people who were in the process of losing their house, so how do you expect those financial firms to keep ahead of the mortgage crisis, if they can’t tap your phones?

    snark 🙂

  • ***I wonder which investment firm will collapse this week***

    Lehman Brothers. They’re roughly the same size as BS, they’re deeply overextended in repackaged subprimes, and they’re next in line to announce insufficient CoH (Cash on Hand) to cover a run.

    But—the big question on everyone’s mind right now should be: How much of last week’s $200B “bailout” by the Fed went into Bear Stearn’s coffers before this announcement? Add to that the $30B that they’re throwing in to “guarantee less liquid assets”—and it begins to look like a world’s record for grand larceny. The Bu$h DoJ, however, will not be conducting any investigations—at least not before the ink has dried on all the pre-written pardons….

  • It looks like Bear Stearns is the big loser. It seems that JP Morgan Chase is now standing behind Bear.

    The stock was worth $57 on Thursday afternoon and it is worth $2 now.

    Of course, since the takeover was announced, the US market declined about 2% in about an hour. The far east is down about 2% and the financial stocks in the far east are down 2% to 10%.

  • As Herbert Hoover famously said in 1931: “Prosperity is just around the corner!”

    For those keeping track of these things, on Thursday the Euro was worth $1.55. On Friday morning it was worth $1.65, and by Friday afternoon it was worth $1.70.

    God help us the day the rest of the world realizes which currency should be the “world reserve”.

    Little Georgie has now fucked up every company he ever ran, every war he ever ran, and has now run the ship of state onto the rocks. At least he’s consistent.

  • “Is it any wonder we’re starting to hear more comparisons between Bush and Herbert Hoover?”

    Maybe we start calling the neighborhoods filled with foreclosures “the New Hoovervilles.” There’s also the Iraq vets and their lacking medical, social and psych needs … they might be the new Bonus Army. A big difference, however, is that it’s now hedge funds and Bear Stearns asking, “Brother, can you spare a dime … and a few extra billion dollars on top of that?”

    “It was hard not to ‘wonder what the international financial community makes of a country whose president could show up to talk economics in the middle of a liquidity crisis and kind of flop around the stage as if he was emcee at the Iowa Republican Pig Roast.’” The folks reading posts at places like this have been wondering the same thing for a very long time. Nice to see other sectors of this nation coming to that realization that we weren’t lying all these years.

  • there is a BIG difference between Herbert Hoover and Bush. Although Hoover did not help the situation, he did not cause the recession/depression.

    On the other hand, Bush kept making mistakes, making sure that a recession became inevitable. Sure he didn’t know, but what do you expect.

  • Maybe we start calling the neighborhoods filled with foreclosures “the New Hoovervilles.”

    Screw that. Bush has dodged responsibility for everything else, there’s no need to let him duck this one too.

    Maybe “Bushtowns”?

  • You know … like everyone else here, i get utterly exhausted trying to describe this guy’s incompetence … only by doing virtually everything badly, and corruptly, can he get away with doing everything badly, and corruptly. the crimes fly by so fast, you forget the last one, and although any single one of his fuckups taken on it’s own would be enough to impeach him, they seem almost surreal when they come in a blurry, unbroken string. take that surrealism and cube it when he stands up like the retarded failure he is, and bluffs and blunders and jokes and horrifies everyone through one “speech” after another — and because of his hitler-like bubble, and fascist protocols for reporters, no one can call him on anything.

    but this one takes the cake. did bernacke and paulson et al even wake him up this weekend ? do you think he has a clue about any of this ? he broke every gift-wrapped business opportunity that he was handed by his rich family, he’s single-handedly set this country back a hundred years, and now he’s gonna photo op with his economic advisors tomorrow ?

    what on earth could he say ? as dour as those suits are, and as serious as this situation is, it would really add a dose of reality if someone stood up and laughed in his face. that would do more to juice the markets than printing off another ten trillion dollars we don’t have this week.

    go read Gail Collins.

  • Well Mr. Bush has made many americans very upset based on his failed policys. You can define it very quickly in his overall speeches during his years as president that he couldnt do a single good thing to help the American people despite his optimism he truly has. His optimism does not really help. it sends a true signal of why he has became our US president because he is just in it for the money and the benefits of Washington D.C but not for the American People. His presidency is just for the wealthy people and their greedy behavior. And honestly, to tell the truth, right now I just hate the wealthiest just like Bush. I believe that the wealthiest should not have any benefits at all. They should be in the fish tank in general just like everybody else puts it.

    BUSH DOES SUCK BIG TIME. Him and him Crony friend CHENEY is one of them..

    DUMB PRICKS.. lol

  • I think that we’re all being a little unfair to Hoover. Other posters have pointed out some of his successes, but it should also be noted that many of the massive public works that were done during the great depression were actually initiated before Hoover left office. He most certainly screwed the pooch, but he wasn’t an idiot and he did, at least, realize what needed to be done.

    Yakolev, the number one adviser to Gorbachev, was most influenced by his scholarly research into FDR and Great Depression; he was impressed that FDR managed to save what he (Yakolev) considered to be a completely corrupt system. (This research occurred well before Gorby took power.) Can the system be saved again? I’m not so sure.

    I’m no economist, but from what i can gather, our situation is far too similiar to the USSR’s situation in the late 80’s for me to be comfortable. The biggest difference i see is also the most frightening: they were going through a period of opening up politically and socially…while we are headed down the opposite path.

    I’ve said it before, but here it is again…it might be a good year to plant a garden.

  • How many people who thought Bush would be fun to drink beer with figured they’d have to pay for his drinks, too?

  • Can we ditch the notion that the Republicans know how to run the economy now?
    No?
    When then?
    When I’m selling my wife to Chinese sex tourists?
    Maybe when I’m selling MYSELF to Chinese sex tourists?
    What’s the concrete signal that the GOP is feckless in matters economic?

    Honest… what’s the one benchmark that the Republicans would say could NEVER happen under their watch but could happen under the Democrats?

    Oops, forgot. If we ask for benchmarks, the terrorists win.
    Maybe I’m getting a second wind. I’m starting to sense some outrage… nope. It’s gone. Had it for a moment. Back to bemused despair.

  • I have never heard Bush, ever, that he seemed to really understand what he was talking about or when is acutally speaking honesty.

    Sometimes he is deliberately misleading i.e Al Qaeda/Iraq/9-11, IVF Embryos
    Sometimes his speech writers throw random stuff into major speeches i.e. switchgrass, Mars.
    And sometimes, like now, he appears to not have a clue about how our economy actually works and the forces involved in pounding it into the ground.

    Scaring the S#*t out of me!

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