Can center-left win a national majority?

The NYT’s Robin Toner had an interesting piece today with this headline: “Obama’s Test: Can a Liberal Be a Unifier?” My first assumption was that this would be an analysis of Obama’s ability to put together a winning electoral coalition. Can he win independents against McCain? Could he peel off frustrated Republicans disgusted after eight years of Bush?

Those are clearly important angles to consider, but Toner takes this one step further, and poses the question of whether any center-left Democrat can win a majority right now.

In many ways, the Obama campaign is challenging the fundamental political premise that has prevailed in Washington for more than a generation: that any majority coalition must be carefully centrist, if not center-right. Bill Clinton ran in 1992 as a candidate willing to break with liberal orthodoxy on many issues, including crime and welfare, and eager to move the party — which had lost five of the six previous presidential elections — to the middle. Mr. Clinton’s New Democrats assumed a certain level of conservatism among voters.

Mr. Obama and his allies are basing his campaign on a different bet: that the right-leaning political landscape Mr. Clinton confronted has changed. Several major Democratic strategists, and outside analysts as well, argue that the country has shifted to the left because of the Iraq war, the economy and seven-plus years of President Bush, and that it has become open to a new progressive majority.

Obama, not surprisingly, sounded an optimistic note, and I suspect he’s right about the landscape: “What I’m certain about is that people are disenchanted with a highly ideological Republican Party that believes tax cuts are the answer to every problem, and lack of regulation and oversight is always going to generate economic growth, and unilateral intervention around the world is the best approach to foreign policy. So there’s no doubt the pendulum is swinging.”

Is this really so hard to believe?

The NYT piece added:

[M]any of Mr. Obama’s supporters say he has recognized this new political climate in a way that Mrs. Clinton has not. They say he is ready for a new, self-assured era in which progressives (few have returned to using the word “liberal”) make no apologies about their goals — universal health care, withdrawing troops from Iraq, ending tax breaks for more affluent Americans — and assume that a broad swath of the public shares them.

Mrs. Clinton, on the other hand, often displays the wariness of Democrats who came of political age in the Reagan era, when the party was constantly on the defensive. As The New Republic recently put it, “Clintonism is a political strategy that assumes a skeptical public; Obamaism is a way of actualizing a latent ideological majority.”

That sounds about right to me, and it’s been one of the interesting undercurrents of the campaign. The Clinton pitch is that Obama is naive to think Democrats can re-work the electoral map in the party’s favor, and the Obama pitch is that Clinton lacks the vision and ambition to even try. For those who perceive the U.S. as a center-right country, the Clinton approach sounds safe and reassuring. For those who think the pendulum has swung, and Dems have less to be afraid of, Clinton’s approach sounds stuck in the ’90s.

For what it’s worth, I tend to think a liberal — more specifically, Obama — can be a “unifier.” The WaPo recently asked Americans which party they trusted more on the economy, immigration, Iraq, the deficit, taxes, the campaign against terrorism, and health care. Dems led Republicans in every category, in some instances, by quite a bit.

It doesn’t look like a center-right nation, and there’s very little reason for Dems to campaign from a defensive crouch, assuming that it is.

Part of this is political packaging — an appealing messenger taking a progressive message to the country in such a way that appeals to a broad audience — and part of this is taking advantage to the nation’s desperate desire for change.

Can a liberal be a unifier? Why on earth not?

The MSM just wants to throw more roadblocks in Obama’s way

  • I’d like to think so, but unfortunately, the corporations that own our media will not allow the public debate to stray from the current conservative/liberal framework. Its easier to distract the public with wedge issues that fuel this con/lib argument than to provide journalism and reporting that actually engage the public in a more intellectual debate about real issues.
    And, why would they want a progressive in office anyway? Someone who will threaten their stranglehold on government?

  • We’re long overdue for a generational change in politics. We saw hints of that with Howard Dean’s campaign in 2004, and with the change of power in Congress in 2006. But I think Senator Obama is the first to really catch the wave (his upbringing in Hawaii might be paying off…).

  • asked what two books obama would take into the white house (presumably the question was “if you were limited to two…”) obama answered the bible and “Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln” by historian Doris Kearns Goodwin.

    he’s going to walk the talk and compose a cabinet of democrats AND republicans.

  • Sadly, she positioned the entire story based on the National Journal’s totally bogus “most liberal Senator” rating. With that “ranking” in the third paragraph, that turned this story into a hit piece posing as news. “But this promise leads, inevitably, to a question: Can such a majority be built and led by Mr. Obama, whose voting record was, by one ranking, the most liberal in the Senate last year?” It would have been remarkably easy to turn this into an accurate story with a little bit of context comparing the Journal’s “ranking” (they manage to rate any Dem front runner as the most liberal) with unbiased ranking sources and using polling data showing the clear

  • citizen_pain-
    The corporations don’t have a choice, one way or another. Either they’ll go along, as they’ve done by acknowledging Olbermann as a bigger draw than Tucker, or they’ll get run over by the bloggers and the other independent media figures.

  • They say he is ready for a new, self-assured era in which progressives (few have returned to using the word “liberal”) make no apologies about their goals — universal health care, withdrawing troops from Iraq, ending tax breaks for more affluent Americans —and assume that a broad swath of the public shares them.

    Um … there is no “assuming” “that a broad swath of the public shares” a liberal view on numerous issues.

    It’s a fact “that a broad swath of the public shares them.”

    And they have for years.

    The problem is that Democrats are just plain gawd awful at sharing their message and proposals in a clear and concise way, while the GOPers are masters at it. (Having a media that pushes every GOP talking point while ignoring every Democratic proposal and idea doesn’t help much, either.)

    Thus, many people don’t know much about Dems and just assume what they hear on the TV and talk radio is true: Dems want to tax everyone to pay for abortions for gay teenagers (who are to be called “Fertile Young Adults”) while advocating a foreign policy centered around “Hugs and Kisses for All” paid for by a 75% tax rate.

    Once Democrats become better salepeople and message-sharers, then the conventional wisdom will catch up.

  • he’s going to walk the talk and compose a cabinet of democrats AND republicans.

    o, GOODY!
    Which GOPukes is he gonna bring in? The CorpoRats like Bob Rubin & Co; or the bomb-throwers like Unca Newtie? What about, oh, I dunno, The Huck-ster to run the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives which Obama has hinted he WON’T close (of course; too many black churches have been the recipients of Bushevik largess for a black president to close that one down.) Put Tom Delay on the FEC?

    I’m sorry, but IF I vote for Dems, I don’t want ’em trolling the dregs of the last regime for the least objectionable members of really vile and foul outfit…

  • The problem is that Democrats are just plain gawd awful at sharing their message and proposals in a clear and concise way, while the GOPers are masters at it.

    Exactly.

    And: the GOP, homogeneous, autocratic, top-down entity that it is, is better at A.) staying on message, even when the message is tedious or nonsensical or or moronic; and B.) voting as a unified block instead of breaking down into smaller factions.

    Thankfully, Dems (and progressives in general) are getting much better at simplifying the message and sticking to the script. I’m cautiously optimistic.

  • You mixed up progressive and left leaning. A left leaning candidate can easily win because all that candidate needs to do is continue open borders and unlimited immigration and there will soon be more than 50% of the population that will automatically vote for any Democratic candidate.

    The better question is how can rich white elite progressive function in a political party that is dominate by blacks, Hispanics, and blue collar whites? the other question is what will politics be like when the Republican Party collapses and the previous Republican voters start voting in the Democratic primary.

  • The MSM, for the most part, cannot imagine a scenario whereby an Obama presidency allows them to continue in their little king-making gambit. They’ll actually have to get off their butts, stop cut-n-pasting each other’s bylines, and work for a living.

    Visions of that scorpion-faced Carville, with a billboard slung over his shoulders reading, “will slander for food” come to mind—as do the visions of seeing him die of starvation in a back-alley gutter.

    Sometimes, schadenfreude can be your friend….

  • I reject the premise that center-right was ever a winning strategy for Democrats,

    Bill Clinton won with 43% against a read-my-lips confirmed liar tax raising center-right Republican.
    Bill Clinton squeaked by a center-right Bob Dole with 48%
    Al Gore lost with 50+% of the vote running center-left.
    John Kerry lost with 50% running centrist-right with a side order of soft-peddled Iraq withdrawl.

    With a record like THIS, is it any wonder the GOP would rather face a right-centrist again?

    Is it any wonder that Howard Dean’s center-left tactic received an audience after so much failure?

    Is it so surprising that it worked in 2006?

  • Can a liberal be a unifier? Why on earth not?

    I think it’s possible, but if we can’t it’s because the media is owned by people who are threatened by a unified America. They have billions of reasons to keep us divided.

  • The Democrats face a daunting challenge in having only from August to early November to cool down from the nomination fight.
    The exit polling will be wholly confusing. Anti-Clinton Democrats voting for Nader, despairing Republicans voting for Hillary, or anti-Obama Democrats voting for who nows who
    .
    I hope that the extreme rhetoric espoused by each camp in the Democratic nomination process is just talk. Splintering the vote in November would be a catastrophe for the nation. We simply can’t afford another 4 years of a Republican administration.

  • The better question is how can rich white elite progressive function in a political party that is dominate by blacks, Hispanics, and blue collar whites? …

    Huh?

    Seriously — what in the holy hell are you typing about?

  • Mark,

    Look at the demographic trends in the U.S. Whites will be less than half of the population in a couple of decades. That means that progressives; that is urban,upper class whites; will be in the same political party as blacks, Hispanics, and blue collar whites, all of who have very different agendas.

    The question for the coming of the dominate center-left party is whose agenda will dominate.

  • Independents and a fair number of Republicans just go where the wind blows them, choosing not based upon any set of issues that affect them, but random sound bites.

    I doubt this will change, as long as we allow conservatives to set the definitions of the words we use and scare off a majority of voters.

    Stupid is still in, and I doubt that will change in my lifetime.

    …But I could be wrong.

  • Yeah, terrific argument ‘weary’ @12. Because we got less than 50% of the vote, we need to move away from the other 50% of the voters…

    To capture those who don’t vote? Why? They don’t vote. As long as they’re not willing to put in with the closest candidate, they’re not worth catching. They decided to wander off and let us fight the fight, and ignore the ‘By the People’. What good is it seeking out people who don’t show up to vote?

    If all those people who didn’t vote voted for every tom dick and harry that was on the ballot just randomly, maybe I’d take your argument. But they don’t even do that. In fact, they don’t do it so much that we have a system incapable of letting but a small portion of registered voters (let alone the rest of the population) vote.

    If the non-voters want to vote, let them. But until I see their numbers in the return, I really don’t care about courting them.

  • I think Obama scares the S**t out of the MSM. He doesn’t cower and parse and spin when they lob the standard crap at him. I made the mistake of watching Lou Dobbs the other day at my in-laws. Him and his “Democratic (Clinton) strategist” and other panelists were still beating the patriotism issue. Still beating the Wright issue (one of the idiots actually said something to the effect of “he needs to address this issue head-on”, as if Obama hadn’t just given a major speech a few days earlier devoted exactly to that), with the added “threw his grandmother under the bus” twist.

    But McCain’s SOUGHT OUT endorsement of Hagee/Parsley? Nope.
    His flagrant violation of the campaign finance law he helped create? Mum.
    His repeated, blatantly flase attempts to associate Iran and Al-Queda (even after being corrected by Lieberman and Graham)? Misspoke, flub, “senior moment” (which is it? and how are any of the options reassuring?)

  • Crissa- that was one of the most bizzare (and circular) rants I’ve read, at least today.

  • Obama & Clinton hell, the majority of our dem reps can’t seem to read polls or listen to the majority of voters as they seem to act in ways that want to keep from angering republicans. How much more, how many more times, how many more ways are left to demonstrate what the majority of us want that they refuse to hear or follow? Majority of voters want a not for profit national health care plan but both candidates ignore that and give us plans that keep the profiteers involved in our health care. Why? Because they claim republicans will never agree to it…completely ignoring that most Americans support a not for profit system.

    Now we get McBush, Graham, & Lieberman trying to rally support for attacking Iran while Cheney makes his nuclear attack scenario known to the Arab Kingdom and Washington dems silent with no call to action to stop it because republicans would make them look weak on National Security. Look weak to whom??? Those of us trying to stop them? The majority? If the citizens of a country cannot prevent its leader from attacking another country…then it is a dictatorship.

    Our dem reps in Washington ignore the polls and the majority of Americans because they keep buying into the idea that the nation leans ‘right’ because the media leans ‘right’ when the reality is that the middle is far to the left and the polls demonstrate this on every issue. We must find a way for our dem reps to hear ‘us’ and not be misled by the so called beltway insiders or the DC media.

  • Look at the demographic trends in the U.S. Whites will be less than half of the population in a couple of decades. That means that progressives; that is urban,upper class whites; will be in the same political party as blacks, Hispanics, and blue collar whites, all of who have very different agendas.

    Um … I don’t even know where to begin and I’m short on time. But here’s a few quick thoughts:

    1. Your definition of “progressives” as limited to “urban,upper class whites” is absurd. There are “progressives” of all races, locations and economic status.

    2. The Democratic party has included blacks, Hispanics, and blue collar whites (along with Asians, Jews, Muslims and many, many others) for quite some time now. In fact, it’s been that way since the Dixiecrats left for the Republican party four decades ago.

    3. To think that there aren’t different agendas now is also absurd. The thought that your limited definition of progressives all have the same agenda is equally absurd.

    The question for the coming of the dominate center-left party is whose agenda will dominate.

    How about the agenda of the American people, regardless of race, location or paycheck? You know, like health care, a real solution for terrorism, education, infrastructure, the environment, the economy?

    No offense here, but are you Lou Dobbs’ son or something? Because those fears seem more like those held by the “whites need to be dominant!” group of rightwing crazies, rather than someone who has a grasp of true liberal ideology.

  • Here, here…

    What’s is hopefully coming to pass is the recognition that the majority of Americans (Blacks, Latinos, Women, and Progressives) have the same agenda. The implementation may vary based upon local conditions but it is the same agenda; education, health care, clean environment and jobs.

    This divide and rule crap stops now.

  • I’ve always known that this country has a vast center-left majority, but the problem is that only about a third of these people actually vote. About 60 million Republicans and independents decided to vote for Bush in 2004. About 58 million voted for Kerry. In a country of 300 million (with, let’s say, at least 80-100 million people either under 18 or otherwise inelledgable to vote), that still leaves another 80 million or so people who didn’t vote. Now, Republicans live to vote, and I’m hard pressed to find and large block of Republicans who didn’t get out there and vote for Bush again in 04, and independents were pretty split between the two candidates, but most of those independents who voted for Bush now support Obama. This country was founded on the most liberal ideas this world has ever know, and it shames me to see it being taken over but a minority party that more closely represents the tyrants this country was founded to renouce. I have long sought the day when a candidate like Obama came around and got my father, a life-long conservative, to vote for him with full pride and confidence, and I’m glad to say that day has come. It truly gives me hope.

  • Mark,

    While claiming that the Democratic Party is the reality based party, it is odd that anyone would claim that blacks, Hispanics, and upper middle class whites all support the same agenda. Using education, they all have very different agendas. Look at places like DC and LA. Do the upper middle class whites really have the same agenda as blacks and Hispanics?

  • Look at places like DC and LA. Do the upper middle class whites really have the same agenda as blacks and Hispanics?

    Places such as DC and LA have middle and upper middle class blacks and hispanics that support the same agendas as any other Americans. Upper class blacks are not so long remove from what it is like being at the bottom unlike many whites. Just remember segregation was still the law of the land less than 40 years ago. Hispanics were never enslaved. All to often, politicians have pitted blacks, lower income whites and hispanics against one another to win elections. Many whites voted republican to prevent some perceived idea that blacks where going to get some advantage such as afirmative action. Is it better for a young black person to get a favorite job, a foot in the dor, or would you rather for that young person to rob and steal and spend a lifetime on the taxpayers dime?

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