Obama campaign picks up on Krugman’s good advice

On Monday, the NYT’s Paul Krugman wrote some fair criticism of all three presidential candidates: they’re talking about the economy in general, but they aren’t sufficiently addressing the ongoing fiscal crisis. More importantly, they aren’t offering the kinds of regulations the system needs.

Now, the shadow banking system is facing the 21st-century equivalent of the wave of bank runs that swept America in the early 1930s. And the government is rushing in to help, with hundreds of billions from the Federal Reserve, and hundreds of billions more from government-sponsored institutions like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks.

Given the risks to the economy if the financial system melts down, this rescue mission is justified. But you don’t have to be an economic radical, or even a vocal reformer like Representative Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, to see that what’s happening now is the quid without the quo.

Last week Robert Rubin, the former Treasury secretary, declared that Mr. Frank is right about the need for expanded regulation. Mr. Rubin put it clearly: If Wall Street companies can count on being rescued like banks, then they need to be regulated like banks. […]

[Clinton and Obama] are running more or less populist campaigns. But at least so far, neither Democrat has made a clear commitment to financial reform.

It looks like the Obama campaign got the message. The senator delivered a speech at Cooper Union in NYC this morning on the economy, specifically emphasizing “legal reforms needed to establish a 21st century regulatory system.”

From a purely political perspective, I’d just add that Obama did so a) while exposing the disaster of Bush’s economic policies; b) trashing McCain’s speech on the economy from Tuesday; and c) without mentioning Hillary Clinton, in any context, even once.

From the speech:

The concentrations of economic power – and the failures of our political system to protect the American economy from its worst excesses – have been a staple of our past, most famously in the 1920s, when with success we ended up plunging the country into the Great Depression. That is when government stepped in to create a series of regulatory structures – from the FDIC to the Glass-Steagall Act – to serve as a corrective to protect the American people and American business.

Ironically, it was in reaction to the high taxes and some of the outmoded structures of the New Deal that both individuals and institutions began pushing for changes to this regulatory structure. But instead of sensible reform that rewarded success and freed the creative forces of the market, too often we’ve excused and even embraced an ethic of greed, corner cutting and inside dealing that has always threatened the long-term stability of our economic system. Too often, we’ve lost that common stake in each other’s prosperity.

Let me be clear: the American economy does not stand still, and neither should the rules that govern it. The evolution of industries often warrants regulatory reform – to foster competition, lower prices, or replace outdated oversight structures. Old institutions cannot adequately oversee new practices. Old rules may not fit the roads where our economy is leading. There were good arguments for changing the rules of the road in the 1990s. Our economy was undergoing a fundamental shift, carried along by the swift currents of technological change and globalization. For the sake of our common prosperity, we needed to adapt to keep markets competitive and fair.

Unfortunately, instead of establishing a 21st century regulatory framework, we simply dismantled the old one – aided by a legal but corrupt bargain in which campaign money all too often shaped policy and watered down oversight. In doing so, we encouraged a winner take all, anything goes environment that helped foster devastating dislocations in our economy.

The speech didn’t include a lot of specifics — speeches rarely do — but Obama’s general message seemed in line with Krugman’s concerns from earlier this week. At a minimum, Obama certainly didn’t shy away from the need for extensive new regulations and government oversight of the financial industry.

As for the campaign, Obama didn’t hold back much when taking on McCain’s economic plan.

John McCain recently announced his own plan, and it amounts to little more than watching this crisis happen. While this is consistent with Senator McCain’s determination to run for George Bush’s third term, it won’t help families who are suffering, and it won’t help lift our economy out of recession.

Over two million households are at risk of foreclosure and millions more have seen their home values plunge. Many Americans are walking away from their homes, which hurts property values for entire neighborhoods and aggravates the credit crisis. To stabilize the housing market and help bring the foreclosure crisis to an end, I have sponsored Senator Chris Dodd’s legislation creating a new FHA Housing Security Program, which will provide meaningful incentives for lenders to buy or refinance existing mortgages. This will allow Americans facing foreclosure to keep their homes at rates they can afford.

Senator McCain argues that government should do nothing to protect borrowers and lenders who’ve made bad decisions, or taken on excessive risk. On this point, I agree. But the Dodd-Frank package is not a bailout for lenders or investors who gambled recklessly, as they will take losses. It is not a windfall for borrowers, as they will have to share any capital gain. Instead, it offers a responsible and fair way to help bring an end to the foreclosure crisis. It asks both sides to sacrifice, while preventing a long-term collapse that could have enormous ramifications for the most responsible lenders and borrowers, as well as the American people as a whole. That is what Senator McCain ignores.

Good. This is what a frontrunner is supposed to do — challenge the other party’s nominee, while ignoring the intra-party rival. More of this, please.

Post Script: I’d be remiss if I neglected to mention that Obama was introduced by NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who gave Obama a warm introduction, but stopped short of an endorsement. This will, undoubtedly, renew speculation about who Bloomberg will support, whether Bloomberg would serve in a candidate’s cabinet, and whatever else Bloomberg-watchers speculate over.

Honestly, I think the Obama campaign would also benefit from taking some of TCR’s advice some times. But at least seem to be listening for a change.

  • It is good to see Obama moving from from the pointless sniping with Hillary. He has done everything possible to secure the nomination, and while I hope his campaign is prepared for backroom fights over credentials, attempts to steal pledged delegates, and so on, there is no need to discuss any of that in public. Let Hillary play Huckabee all she wants; there is no reason at all for Obama to acknowledge her as a legitimate candidate at this point.

    Focusing on actual policy and building up his own credibility and better defining his positions will help him in both the nomination and general election without further tarnishing him as that guy who got down into the mud with the Clintons. I’m only disappointed that he did that at all, and many a bit worried that this speech is a temporary respite and that he might backslide and dirty himself with Clintonian politics again. I really hope not, though.

  • Meanwhile Hillary seems to think Greenspan should be the guy to fix things up, even though he’s one of the prime culprits who screwed up. I’m sure Krugman has a few words to say about that.

    Next she’ll be bringing back Rumsfeld to help get us out of Iraq.

  • Barack’s taking a very common sense approach that cross-pollinates between some conservative (in the old-school economic sense) ideas and liberal concepts. It provides some hope that things will get better under his leadership. He’s looking more presidential all the time.

    McCain’s approach, while satisfying in a let ’em swing kind of way isn’t really a pragmatic course since the economy has developed too great a dependence in these flawed institutions to let them just rot.

    Hillary? All her talk so far has been just talk of bailouts and I haven’t heard what the public gets in return. If the public is rescue these institutions, the public should reap some of the financial benefits of the rescue and not just be the sucker taking the losses, which is what Republicans want to see.

  • Another nail in the coffin of the “no substance” line of attack.

    The man has provided an example of policy that is commonsense, fair, wise and well spoken. It would be a crime to allow his candidacy to be derailed by petty nonsense being slung at him from within the party.

    This is the kind of leader the country need. The antidote to Bush.

  • ‘sigh’ The worst thing about Hillary not winning is we wont get the brilliant Robert Rubin back as Treasury Secretary or main economic adviser. For the snark posted about HiIllary here, she IS the one with Robert Rubin in her camp so your complaints that she is also an economic creep reveal you as poorly educated on the subject and unaware of who advises who.

    Cant you all post something positive about Obama without being a creep to her?

  • While this is consistent with Senator McCain’s determination to run for George Bush’s third term …

    Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

    As far as the speech goes, I would like to have heard more specifics — I’m in the finance industry and pay real, real close attention to this stuff — but understand these types of speeches really don’t lend themselves to that. I’ll have to go to his site later and see if it drills down a bit deeper into this issue.

    Regardless, it’s great to see Obama come out and not shy away from suggesting more regulation. The right will go nuts and call him socialist, I’m sure, but there are a few that get it and realize something has to be done to put more protections for consumers and, yes, even banks (i.e. strengthened capital requirements, loss reserves, etc.).

    Of course, states tried more regs and protections in ’05, but were told by the OCC they couldn’t do anything with federally chartered banks. We all know what’s happened since then.

    The Bush Administration strikes again …

  • Meanwhile Hillary seems to think Greenspan should be the guy to fix things up, even though he’s one of the prime culprits who screwed up. I’m sure Krugman has a few words to say about that. — RacerX, @3

    I sincerely doubt that, same as I doubt Obama’s speech is going to change Krugman’s opinion of Obama. Krugman may not be sold on Clinton, but he sure as hell is not going to say anything that would smack of Obama approval, however faintly. Krugman has Obama pegged as an anti-Semite and as a scary black man and nothing is going to change that.

    If you go back over the Krugman quote, you’ll notice that he avoids any mention of Greenspan but quotes Rubin as the authority — that’s one of the trio that Clinton has proposed (in addition to Greenspan and Voelcker — spell?). And that’s the one who’s firmly in the Clinton camp.

    Mind you… Rubin is lauding Frank’s solution and now Obama has joined it as a co-sponsor, which will make Krugman twqist himself into a pretzel trying to both give credit to Frank and discredit Obama at the same time (signed up when it was all done; not a leader?) but that’s always a problem when one starts with peercnceptions and, instead of adjusting one’s viewpoint to the reality tries to twist reality to fit the preconceptions…

  • Jammer, above said:

    “’sigh’ The worst thing about Hillary not winning is we wont get the brilliant Robert Rubin back as Treasury Secretary or main economic adviser. For the snark posted about HiIllary here, she IS the one with Robert Rubin in her camp so your complaints that she is also an economic creep reveal you as poorly educated on the subject and unaware of who advises who.”

    Who’s to say Bob Rubin WOULDN’T serve in an Obama administration if asked?

    And, wasn’t it refreshing to see and hear a politician who could speak? Who didn’t call Americans “folk”? Who didn’t seem like the idiot brother?

  • Sorry for the typos @ 8. “Twiqst”? “Peercnceptions”? Yuck. Try: “twist” and “preconceptions”

  • Mark D (7): You should like this speech. It really is quite detailed. And while it makes no mention of Hillary, I would argue it wasn’t kind to the Clinton administration.

    Under Republican and Democratic administrations, we failed to guard against practices that all to often rewarded financial manipulation instead of productivity and sound business practices. We let special interests put their thumbs on the economic scales… Companies like Enron and Worldcom took advantage of the new regulatory environment to push the envelope, pump up earnings, disguise losses and otherwise engage in severely damaged public trust in capital markets. This was not the invisible hand at work. Instead, it was the hand of industry lobbyists tilting the playing fields in Washington, and accounting industry that had developed powerful conflicts of interest, and a financial sector that fueled over-investment.

    These things did not start in 2001, and it is important to understand that.

  • Rubin in the Clinton Camp?????
    Didn’t anyone else see Colbert???? Rubin clearly said he’d prefer a chocolate bunny in his basket instead of a squishy marshmallow peep. Could it be anymore definitive?????

  • “Unfortunately, instead of establishing a 21st century regulatory framework, we simply dismantled the old one – aided by a legal but corrupt bargain in which campaign money all too often shaped policy and watered down oversight. In doing so, we encouraged a winner take all, anything goes environment that helped foster devastating dislocations in our economy.”

    That quote was an indirect slap at the Clinton administration and getting rid of Glass-Steagall.

    I’m glad he’s turned towards mcCain, hope he keeps it up and basically ignores Hillary from here on out.

  • CEOs on Wall street are walking away with millions in salaries and benefits while expecting the the government and tax payers to bail their companies out. The consequences of unregulated greed which gets a pat on the back from McCain.

  • Shout out to Gorobei at #5, whose comments are as sensible and community building at those of his namesake in “The Seven Samurai.”

  • I sincerely doubt that, same as I doubt Obama’s speech is going to change Krugman’s opinion of Obama. Krugman may not be sold on Clinton, but he sure as hell is not going to say anything that would smack of Obama approval, however faintly. Krugman has Obama pegged as an anti-Semite and as a scary black man and nothing is going to change that.”

    Say wha…?

    Ive been pretty disgusted with Krugman’s incessant attacks on Obama myself, but do you have any evidence for this assertion??

    My take is that Krugman got all upset because Obama was arguing against mandates, and got a bit of a white-whale complex about it and wouldn’t let go, or let him see any aspect of O’s candidacy beyond that one narrow issue.

    Can you point to one of Krugman’s columns, blog posts, or public appearances that indicates that this is personal? I’m skeptical, but it would certainly be valuable information if true!!

  • Didn’t anyone else see Colbert???? Rubin clearly said he’d prefer a chocolate bunny in his basket instead of a squishy marshmallow peep. Could it be anymore definitive?????

    It could if it had been Robert Rubin, instead of Robert Reich. And I seriously doubt Reich celebrates Easter, although I think people of all faiths can agree on the inadvisability of consuming marshmallow peeps.

  • Ouch!!!
    Humbly corrected! I was too distracted in cleaning up the milk that shot out of my nose while I was laughing….

  • DON’T BE DUPED !!!

    Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

    But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. “Carpe diem” (harvest the day).

    I think Hillary Clinton see’s a beautiful world of plenty for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it’s time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children’s future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

    You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.

    Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

    As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

    Hillary Clinton has been out manned, out gunned, and out spent 2 and 3 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

    If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.

    The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

    I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton’s offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama’s place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history.

    The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

    Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

    “This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)

    Sincerely

    jacksmith…

  • You should publish a correction to the statement that he did not mention Clinton in any capacity. When he talked about the dismantling of financial regulations in the 1990s because of corruption and campaign money, he was talking about Bill Clinton pushing through the repeal of Glass-Steagall (which was specifically mentioned in the paragraph before). Oh yes, Bill Clinton was the one that set off the one thing that has contributed the most to the subprime crisis we are seeing now. Glass-Steagall, that’s all you need to know. Look it up.

  • Nice, if long, parody, Jacksmith. You’re joking, right? If not, please provide evidence of your claim 1/3 of Obama’s support comes from Repubs looking to sabotage the process. But it HAS to be a parody, so don’t bother. In her defense, she seemed to go after McCain more in her speech today, though her campaign made the laughable claim he stole her plan. No, he drank her milkshake.

  • As usual Obama’s words reflect the intellect of a statesman and a student of history. He intends to restore dignity and integrity to a political office that has suffered years of abuse. He has no equal in this political race, or in any other in my lifetime.

  • Jacksmith,

    There are so many things wrong with your statement, it’s best to ignore it, just like it’s best to ignore Hillary and her blindest supporters.

  • You should publish a correction to the statement that he did not mention Clinton in any capacity. When he talked about the dismantling of financial regulations in the 1990s because of corruption and campaign money, he was talking about Bill Clinton pushing through the repeal of Glass-Steagall (which was specifically mentioned in the paragraph before). Oh yes, Bill Clinton was the one that set off the one thing that has contributed the most to the subprime crisis we are seeing now. Glass-Steagall, that’s all you need to know. Look it up.

    Uh, Zoey. Barack is running against Hillary, not Bill.

  • OT:

    MSNBC seems intent on beating the Rev. Wright horse to death, even despite the polling which shows it’s a dead issue.

    They’ve been flogging some new quotes by Wright that “were found through an internet search.” They were found? By whom? They never say.

    The intros to their segments, in even more passive-voice deflection, said “eyebrows are being raised” by the new info and “the issue is being revived.” Really? Whose eyebrows? Revived by whom? They never say.

    There’s no occasion for this reporting, no one outraged about them and demanding the coverage, other than a producer at the network looking to gin up another controversy. They had no quotes from anyone — Clinton, McCain, anyone — who was upset by this stuff, or even knew of their existence.

    The best part was that they had a pair of pundits, one from Townhall.com and one from Huff Post, and both of them basically said, well, this is a media-created controversy, and as long as you keep talking about it, you can keep covering it.

    No one cares about this, not even the people you bring on to debate it. Let it go.

    I just dropped them an email — letters@msnbc.com — and encourage everyone else to do so too.

  • JackSmith –

    Are you sure about Repubs voting for Obama? I suggest you go to Limbaugh’s site or do the Google on his suggestions to GOP primary voters. Its Hillary that he’s telling his Dittohead minions to vote for. Look again, check the facts and review your screed. As Olbermann pointed out a couple of weeks ago her campaign is looking more like a Republican effort rather than a true democratic Democratic one.

  • Now Rubin, the Chief Risk Officer of Citibank who didn’t see the crisis coming, and let the CEO keep dancing while the music was on has something to say. Whata joke.

  • Zoey — Steve said Obama did not mention Clinton in any capacity, which is true. The fact that he talked about regulatory changes that the Clinton administration is partially responsible for does not contradict that. Listeners and readers may make a connection to the Clinton campaign, but Obama didn’t; he specifically chose not to make a claim of the flavor “because you claim policy experience as first lady, you’re responsible for everything in the Clinton Administration.” That’s a wise choice, since guilty-by-association attacks from the Clinton campaign haven’t been doing them much good lately, and it’s also part of the point of Steve’s statement.

  • Just fyi, Krugman–on his blog– was very critical of Clinton for suggesting Greenspan be part of the solution to the housing problems.

  • Good to see Obama bring up Glass-Steagall, if only obliquely. There is a lot that Clinton did to lay the foundation for George’s house of cards…the housing bubble actually began (according to some sources, such as The Economist) in 1996.

    I don’t know though, we might be be coming up on the point of no return for soft landings. When the same periodical cited above starts sounding really worried, i start getting really worried. They’re hardly left-wing, the sky is falling when it comes to finance/money.

    Let me just put it this way: this week’s “Buttonwood” suggests that the best investment is a piece of agricultural land. When the ultimate in free-traders start musing about buying a little piece of land to grow your own food on…well, it might be time to think about buying a piece of land to grow your own food on.

    If you have the cash, i’d suggest Chile or Argentina.

  • Resume Man, @17

    I honestly don’t remember whether it was in one of his columns or on his blog, but there were a couple of “snipes” of the kind which rang all sorts of wrong bells with me. The one I — sort of — remember was about some rabbis defending Obama publicly, “even though it must have been very difficult for them” (or gone against the grain, or something like that). The reason it raised all sorts of hackles is that I remember the same kind of attitude from my (Jewish) Mother and her friends. Everyone was very liberal and very tolerant, but, in the long run, the “schwartze” could not be trusted and should be kept at an arm’s length. I think Krugman’s original beef was, *indeed*, on the matter of mandates. But when Obama didn’t back down like a good boy, the older prejudices kicked in as well.

    Perhaps I’m overly sensitive… OTOH… There’s a long tradition of distrust between Jews and blacks in this country and it goes both ways (see the writings of Wright and Baldwin). I think it’s getting less and less — just as racism in general is diminishing — but among the slightly older generation it’s still bubbling under the surface.

  • Krugman campaign picks up on ROTFLMLiberalAO’s good advice

    ‘Bout time:
    Stick to the economy stupid, that’s where you shine brilliant…

  • Michele Obama is an anti-american racist and a nappy headed ho too, She looks like a young Aunt Jemima as well; this is reason enough not to vote for Mr. Hussein Obama.
    Remember though, a vote for Obama is a vote for Osama; don’t forget that. Al-Qaeda also wants Obama to win. The only difference between Obama and Osama is BS. Obama’s racist Leftist anti-american Pastor Jeremiah Wight ought to be hanged for treason his anti-american comments (especially in time of War like now) as well as anyone who believes in or agrees with his Leftist hateful anti-american message.
    Hateful militant angry blackman types are evil and are also anti-american traitors as well.
    Just like Muhammad is in hell! So are many treasonous American muslim leaders such as Malcolm X, Elijah Mohammed and someday Louis farrakhan and honorary racist negro muslims like Jeremiah Wright and Jesse Jackson, Malik Shabazz, the Nation of Islam and the Black panthers and Michele Obama. Whenever they are asked to apologize for their evil rhetoric they rarely do and when they actually do they do it in a very niggardly manner. Isn’t it obvious their contempt for America and law abiding true Christians? America needs a President who loves America and is proud of her and needs those around him to love her also and served her both in politics and the miltary; much like President Bush, his father, Reagan, Ford, Nixon and JFK all did. We don’t want racist anti-military, anti-american angry negro running the country who has a nappy headed ho for a wife and a racist traitor for a pastor like Mr. Hussein Obama. A vote for Obama is a vote for Osama! Al-Qaeda is rooting for Mr. Hussein Obama too! There’s no telling how many 9/11’s we’ll have if he becomes the Prez; it is almost inevitable ! I would bet that we get hit at least 3 or 4 times by 9/11 magnitude attacks in 1 term with Obama. That is why I would never vote for him. McCain all the way!!!!!!

  • Unlike the Left (Dems. Etc) and most of the the rest of the world GOP isn’t afraid of these towel headed muslim terrorists (redundant). America is much more powerful than them and we can whip them bad just like the we did to the supposedly tough Taliban and Saddam & Co. If we want to we can wipe those muslims of the map; no doubt. It would be nice. mohammed is a child molesting pedophile. Bring it on towel heads! You (Jihaders) will soon by joining the like of Al-Zarqawi, saddam and his two sons. Let’s take them the way of the Dinosaurs!:)))Oh yeah! USA!USA!USA!USA!USA! God willing!

    Remember though, a vote for Obama is a vote for Osama; don’t forget that. Al-Qaeda also wants the dems to win! They fear the GOP. The fear Dubya and McCain that is why they have not struck since 9/11 ! They know Dubya and the GOP will retaliate with overwhelming force! Perhaps nuking Muslim holy sites is not off the table even. if we get hit again; it’s been mentioned by some congressmen . Mecca might look like the Grand Canyon after! During the Hadj would be a good time I think. I would be dancing in the street and millions of americans would be too. God is great!! McCain all the way! Just like Muhammad is in hell! So are many treasonous American muslim leaders such as Malcolm X, Elijah Mohammed and later on Louis farrakhan and honorary muslim like Jeremiah Wright and Jesse Jackson.

  • I like how Obama’s people can forget tha the only serious policies he has discussed in the campaign were adopted from the Clintons, like healthcare reform, fiscal restraint, and bipartisanship. The rest have been far left cliches and vague fantasies. I especially liked his darling baby lambkins foreign policy. But the deep voice and sing sing rhetoric has so done the trick with this crowd, they now expect us to beleive Obama actually knows something about policy.

  • Regarding the msnbc (or any other network) coverage of the Rev. Wright issue, you might want to consider including “Not This Time” in your message, as in:

    regarding your coverage. . .etc.
    you can do that; or you can say–
    Not This Time.

  • I heard Obama’s speech today. It was magnificant, presidential. He outlined the nation’s financial problem from an historic perspective and offered solutions that addressed the mortgage crisis, and the deep-seated problems in the financial system as a whole. He directly addressed the underlying mindset that is rampant on Wall street: greed. I heard the speech on our financial situation made by John McCain and the speech made by Hillary Clinton. They both offered bandaides where major surgery is required. Obama was addressing a crowd of Wall Streeters, letting them known that they must be – as we all must – part of the change required for us all to live decently in this country. Clinton and McCain are at best divisive; Obama, if elected,has the ability to be transformative.

    We must end the bloodletting in the Democratic party.

  • Obama criticizes the Clinton administration for not regulating the financial industry to prevent this type of problem. Sounds like hindsight to me; Obama is only stating what is fairly clear NOW THAT THE DISASTER HAS OCCURRED. Had he himself foreseen these problems back in the days when Clinton was president and during which he now faults Clinton for not taking regulatory action? Are there records of Obama speaking back then (or writing) that we were in need of regulation, otherwise there could be future financial disaster?? OF COURSE NOT. Obama tries to play a tactic he has used before: blaming others for not foreseeing things that HE HIMSELF ALSO DID NOT FORESEE. This is why I don’t like the guy; because he uses these sorts of tactics to create a false impression that he saw things coming that others did not, and to blame others for not seeing these things or taking action on them. HE HIMSELF is just as guilty of not seeing such things coming. I am not taken-in. He is now merely stating the currently-obvious. He never said a word about the coming financial disaster in past years, yet faults other for also failing to see it coming, and the listener is left with the impression that Obama did see it coming. Sorry, but he didn’t. No one did.

  • Damn, just stepped in a pile of Rick.

    CB, clean up on aisle 5, please, please, please????

  • to RICK:
    Tell the black people you work with about some of the ideas you have, “face to face” and see how far it gets you. You are just kid anyway…

  • The Jacks and Ricks of this world make me sick. They are nothing but
    Limbaugh dittoheads and Rove’s wanna be’s,
    Am so glad the tide, hopefully, has turned towards what we want to
    hear. The issues need to be addressed.
    And, as many have said, the news media have stooped to the lowest
    level, sensationalizing, distorting and reporting what none of us are
    interested in and what is not important over and over and over.
    They do a disservice to the American voters and what should be
    expected of them.
    Tom Brokow, come back.

  • WOW Jacksmith is prolific!

    I have seen this same nonsense posted almost word- for word all over the place. Most recently at Salon I believe.

    Pretty clever dittohead tactic I guess.

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