The lie that just won’t die

The Jeremiah Wright controversy was — and, arguably, still is — a major threat to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. When voters, especially centrist white voters who hoped Obama might be some kind of post-racial candidate, saw an angry Christian pastor making inflammatory remarks from his church pulpit, it caused some concerns.

There was, however, an upside. No one in their right minds could see all of this uproar and still think Obama is a Muslim. One would have to be a blithering fool to discount the wall-to-wall coverage of Obama attending a Christian church, and befriending his Christian pastor, and nevertheless fail to believe that Obama is a Christian.

And yet, there are an astonishing number of people out there that just can’t let go of the lie.

A Pew Research Center News Interest Index survey earlier in March found that 79% of the general public had heard rumors that Obama is Muslim, and 38% had heard “a lot” about this. The current survey finds that most voters have no misconceptions about Obama’s religious beliefs – 53% say that he is Christian. But one in ten believes Barack Obama is Muslim. Roughly a third (34%) say they don’t know what his religious beliefs are, though 9% say the reason they don’t know is that they’ve heard different things about his religion, not that they haven’t heard about it.

Notably, the impression that Obama is Muslim crosses party lines: 14% of Republicans, 10% of Democrats and 8% of independents think he is Muslim. Within both parties, ideology is a major factor: 16% of conservative Republicans believe Obama is Muslim, compared with 9% of moderates and liberals. And 13% of conservative and moderate Democrats believe Obama is Muslim, compared with just 5% of liberal Democrats.

The impression that Obama is Muslim varies by education, region, and religious background. Voters who did not attend college are three times as likely to believe Obama is Muslim when compared with voters who have a college degree (15% vs. 5%). And voters in the Midwest and South are about twice as likely as those in the Northeast and West to hold this belief. Nearly one-fifth of voters (19%) in rural areas say Obama is Muslim, as do 16% of white evangelical Protestants. But there is little difference by age, gender or race in terms of voters’ likelihood of thinking Obama is Muslim. Most notably, about as many black (10%) as white (11%) voters believe he is Muslim.

I just have one question: what is wrong with these people?

Keep in mind, this is a lie with electoral consequences.

There is little evidence that the recent news about Obama’s affiliation with the United Church of Christ has dispelled the impression that he is Muslim. While voters who heard “a lot” about Reverend Wright’s controversial sermons are more likely than those who have not to correctly identify Obama as a Christian, they are not substantially less likely to still believe that he is Muslim. Nearly one-in-ten (9%) of those who heard a lot about Wright still believe that Obama is Muslim.

Overall, the impression that Obama is Muslim has at most a slight impact on his fortunes in November – mostly because so few voters hold this belief in the first place. Moreover, Obama is only slightly less competitive against John McCain than Clinton is among the minority who believe this about him. Among the 10% of voters who say he is Muslim, 35% would still choose Obama over McCain in a general election matchup, while 61% would vote for McCain. These same voters would also choose McCain over Clinton, but by a smaller 52% to 42% margin.

Short of Obama running Huckabee-like “committed Christian” TV ads, I’m not sure what more anyone can do to expose these folks to reality.

Isn’t that about the same percentage that thinks George W. Bush is doing an excellent job as president? My guess is it’s the same idiots.

  • I just have one question: what is wrong with these people? You got me on this one.

    But I think this is a telling statement:

    Overall, the impression that Obama is Muslim has at most a slight impact on his fortunes in November – mostly because so few voters hold this belief in the first place.

    It just isn’t that big deal. However, it’s good to keep it up to make sure the idea that Obama is a Muslim (because it isn’t true) doesn’t spread.

  • “I just have one question: what is wrong with these people?”

    The problem is that, like most Americans, all their information comes only from the TeeVee. Visual information is processed by the occipital lobe, which is a little bigger than a dime and which is so primitive that we share it with an amazing number of species substantially below us on the evolutionary ladder.

    The primary function of the occipital lobe is to enable us to spot food and threat. Once the decision is reached, in nearly all cases, the brain “moves on”, i.e., forgets. That is, unless there is stuff to actually think about (like reading), TeeVee makes us stupid.

  • What is wrong with these people? Nothing. I operate on the theory that half of the hairless bipeds I am going to meet in any given day are “below average” and that half of them are morons. I’m never suprised or disappointed. These people are the ones in the bottom half of the “below average” category.

  • Polls consistently show that 10-20% of Americans have VERY ODD BELIEFS. Whether it’s belief in ghosts, having seen a UFO, believe Hitler was a good man, support Osama bin Laden and Al Quada, think that jicama is a tasty treat, there’s always, always, always a weird outlier. Best thing is to ignore.

  • There is a difference between East Asian muslims and black muslims. Someone could read the uproar about Wright and wonder whether Obama was sympathetic to people like Farrakhan and U.S. black muslims. Unless you define what you mean by Muslim in the poll, you may get some confusion over that. There are also a fair number of people who don’t know what a Muslim is, outside of the context of terrorism.

  • In order to reinforce the the idea that he isn’t a Muslin, Obama has had to embrace the tar baby Wright. Quite the Rovian gambit by the Clintons.

  • I’m sure you’re well aware by now that at least 10% of Americans are completely uninformed idiots. That’s actually a pretty acceptable number, I think; it shows that anyone who has been paying the slightest bit of attention knows better.

  • Society is ignorant, but they believe what they believe no matter how much those darned facts keep contradicting what they know to be true, and will not go out of their way to find out for themselves.

    48% of people polled in the recent wsj/nbc poll said they didn’t know who Jeremiah Wright was.. are you kidding me?!?!

    These are the same people who will go out and vote in November, and it doesn’t matter how many speeches Obama gives, they won’t listen.. but they may hear 30 second clips of Jeremiah Wright played over and over, interwoven with clips of Obama saying how he helped make him who he is, and those 48% may be influenced enough to not vote for Obama (30 seconds fits right into their short attention spans).

    The media doesn’t help either, here’s a good article that is not liberal or conservative, nor is it biased toward any candidate, but rather looks deeply at how the 24 hour news networks love to pontificate and inject opinion into their shows, I never heard of the author but I’m impressed by the accuracy.

    http://www.bnd.com/285/story/293037.html

  • They don’t read. Reading involves actual cognitive processes, and is not spoon-fed. What the late Morton Downey Jr. called “pablum-puking”.

    It’s amazing that people will believe a lie over truth, but can you blame them when their lives are centered around a box that spews fiction and latered reality for entertainment.

  • I’m a transplanted New Yorker living in rural Ohio. The closest town has one stoplight, one bar, one gas station. It _used_ to have a minimart. I have lived here for ten years and I have never seen a black person in town. Seriously. A few years ago the minimart was bought by a fellow from Pakistan who had been assured by his brother (who operates one a world away in Columbus) that it would be a great investment.

    Anyway, the guy seemed nice and we shopped there frequently. But I was just about his only customer. It turned out that the locals had decided on day one that this guy was sent by the a-rabs (as they say) to plan a terrorist attack on East Nowhere. Seriously. I heard this proclaimed as fact by a local schoolteacher. The store closed about a year later.

    You don’t know stupid until you spend time in a place like this. It’s like the 14th century with satellite TV.

  • I think it would also be interesting to ask these people what the difference is between being a Muslim and being a Christian. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be able to answer it.

    Sadly enough, Obama’s Christianity is what I consider to be his weakest characteristic. When can we get to the point in this country where you don’t have to buy into dogmatic mythology to hold political office. As long as we value ignorance (faith) as a people, we will be at the whim of the ignorant.

  • Last night Fox “news” (Dallas) did a short segment on the lie, and actually did a fairly good job on it. Surprised the hell out of me.

    They said 10% of Democrats believed the lie.

  • Can I ask folks to kindly add the Seinfeld caveat?

    Obama is NOT a Muslim… not that there’d be anything wrong with that.

    When we DO someday have a terrific candidate who’s a Muslim, I’d rather not go through this all over again.

  • This is really discouraging and I’ve experienced it twice with people I know. First, a friend’s husband who I met through facebook sends me the stupid chain letter saying Obama is a muslim and used the Koran on his swearing in ceremony. The guy has a masters in Pharmacy and is an educated professional. But he’s a republican so that wasn’t completely unexpected.

    Then, a friend who is a lawyer and holds an MA in Intl Relations (the exact title might be different, but that was the focus) from NYU tells me that she would vote for McCain if she lived in the country. (She can’t vote for Pres from Puerto Rico). When I asked why, she said she just didn’t feel comfortable voting for a muslim. I could not believe what I was hearing. And she’s usually on the liberal side of things! Seriously, I despair of this country sometimes.

  • Running the committed Christian ads wouldn’t make any difference either. Many of the people who still think he is a Muslim believe that his 20 years attendance at a Christian church is just a ruse to aid his political ambition and cover up his true religious convictions. There is nothing you can do to convince these people, you can’t argue with stupid.

  • Grasping for straws. They can see he is a great candidate and they can’t bring him down no matter what they try. So they just throw anything against the wall to see what sticks!

  • It’s really only a matter of time before they start floating rumors that he’s really a Hasidic Jew.

  • It’s all in the name.

    If it sounds and looks different, it is different. Lots of common country folk (esp. those John McCain’s age) never met a Muslim or had the pleasure of trying to pronounce a name such as Barack Hussein Obama (both names remind them of “Osama” and “Saddam”). Many of those don’t use the net, can only afford basic cable, and supplement their understanding of a candidate by what is said around the senior citizen luncheons. I think it’s more a matter of exposure than redneck ignorance. In some cases, it could be they’re just plain old.

    But you’ll never win any of ’em over by addressing them as stupid. It may be their last vote, but by God they’ll remember in November.

    Don’t forget, *they* elected Crackhead George twice.

  • Obama clearly lied when he said he would leave the church if Wright stayed.

    First he said that there was no reason for him to leave.

    Now he is saying he would have left.

    Also, there is something wrong with that Church. It is not just Wright that is the problem.

    His church also published a Hamas Terror Document:
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456

  • Short of Obama running Huckabee-like “committed Christian” TV ads, I’m not sure what more anyone can do to expose these folks to reality.

    I really would like to see Obama address this lie, along with the nonsense about his middle name. Sadly, too many Americans are ignorant idiots — like the dumbasses who beat up Sikhs after 9-11. Hey morons — wrong country, wrong ethnic group and wrong freakin’ religion.

    Obama should consider introducing himself the same way at every speech and debate:

    “Hello, I’m Barack Hussein Obama. My mother was from Kansas and my father was from Kenya. Like many people, I have an embarrassing middle name. Hussein means ‘beautiful one’, and my mother, like most mothers, was a little biased. But I don’t blame her for giving me the same name as a kid from Iraq that no one had heard of in 1961.

    “My wife, Michelle, and I have attended Trinity United Church of Christ for the past 20 years. But I’m sure most of you already know that because it was mentioned in the news a while ago.”

    Just a suggestion….

  • The the Repubs formula for sucess is
    Every Dem mole hill = a mountain,
    Every Repub mountain = a mole hill.

    Every problem and failure = some one else’e fault,
    Iraq bad = blame the Iraqis and/or the Dems and/or the news media
    Home foreclosure rates = blame stupid/greddy home owners because bankers and lenders would never, ever make mistakes or be misleading or blinded by greed.
    Katrina = Should have packed up and left in the SUV earlier and had better insurance.

  • The people who still believe that “Obama is a muslim” lie are the same idiots who think that there were “weapons of mass destruction in Iraq” and the George Bush is the great president ever.

  • Barack could have gone back to calling himself Barry.

    Using the name Barack is apparently important to his identity. Since he is not Muslim, not Kenyan, not “foreign,” what does the name mean to him?

  • The story is not gonna die easily since the the question of OBAMA or OSAMAs character is legitimate.

    1. He’s been a member of this church for several years under Rev. Wright, since Wrights stated racial remarks recently I don’t think the racial remarks happens only once in his tenure as Senior Pastor. Knowing that I would say his church denomination are more racial……..AN APPLE TREE CAN ONLY BEAR APPLE IT CANNOT BEAR AN ORANGE FRUIT….

    2. If he knows Rev. Wright is racist from the very beginning he should have joined another church…..unless he is not listening to his sermon….or… may be he is RACIST HIMSELF AND JUST TRYING TO HIDE IT POLITICALLY….

    3. Or it doesn’t matter because he is a muslim dress as christian..

  • Putting the rumors to rest…

    I heard that my favorite morning program ‘Mourning Jo(K)e’ with Joe Scarborough is going to change its name to ‘The McCain Campaign Headquarters’. As far as I know, this is not true. It would make obvious what you have to view to now know.

    I heard that Joe Scarborough pushing hard for Hillary because he is sure McCain can beat her. I heard that Joe said “We know the nig*** can’t win in my part of Florida, but I don’t have confidence in the rest of the country.” As far as I know, JoKe is not a racist.

    Sitting in a restaurant for lunch today (Indianapolis, IN), overheard 2 white males (40’s?) talking. One said, I can’t vote for Obama because he is a Muslim. The other said, I can’t vote for Obama because of his Radical Black Christian Church. It did not appear that either noticed anything contradictory is what they were telling each other.

    Whether it is the code word ‘muslim’ or the code word ‘radical christian’, it is just a cover that is ‘cleaner’ than saying “I ain’t voting for no nig** for president.”

  • SteveT @ 22 — I think he has addressed this somewhat.. i’ve heard several times in his speeches where he says something about his funny name.

    Mary @ 25 — It is his NAME. Maybe he likes it? I think it is pretty common for someone who grew up with a nickname, (Bobby, to Bob or Robert; Mikey to Mike or Michael) to want to be know as an adult, at least professionally, by their full first name, or at least a more “adult” nickname.

    NER @ 26 — I see we found one of the ignorant.

  • The sad thing is that the Republican’ts who claim they could vote for Senator Obama are going to be shocked…

    …Shocked I say…

    …to discover in the general election campaign that Obama is a Liberal.

    That doubtlessly includes my wingnut Texas Oil Mafia brother-in-law.

  • it took him 20 years to get to the point of leaving the church?? are you kidding me. He had to have been present during at least one speech that was inflammatory. The Sunday after 9/11 are you telling me he did not go to church? I go to church once every 10 years and I went that Sunday. Also why did he lie about his parents meeting at the selma march?

  • What’s wrong with these people is they same retarded level of brain activity as George W. Bush.

    Basically, George Bush has no interest whatsoever in “thinking”, i.e., trying to figure out what’s really happening. Instead, he has a bunch of words floating around in his head, like “freedom”, “strong”, “secure” for things he likes and supports, and words like “evil”, “terror”, and “mistake” for things he doesn’t like. This is why he continually makes ignorant statements over and over like how Pakistan’s Musharraf is a “great friend to democracy”, or how our economy is “sound and strong”, or the attacks in Basra are “a positive development”. Bush wants and supports these things, so these words fly out of his mouth, regardless of whether it has any relation to what’s going on.

    The same thing’s going on among his 28% of supporters. “How can they think Obama’s a Muslim after the controversy about his Christian church?” Wrong question – these people *aren’t* “thinking”! The Christian Church is good. They like the Christian Church. Therefore, since the pastor says mean things they don’t like, that *can’t* be a real Christian church! And they don’t know (or care to know) anything about Muslim beliefs. “Muslim” is just a way of saying “scary different-looking person” – it’s a word to describe their fears. And that’s why you can’t convince them, either. Their fears about Obama aren’t going to go away, and therefore as long as “Muslim” is the most insulting word they can use (because they can’t use “terrorist” or “n—–r”), then that’s what they’ll use, regardless of any facts.

  • I just have to add, this is George Bush’s real legacy to this country and its people: the complete glorification of ignorance and self-satisfaction to the exclusion of any value, principle, or standard.

  • Hvaing lived in the Us for several years but now residind in Switzerland I have the following comments to make.

    First what is all this crap about about freedom of speech in the US. All you have to do is say anything mildly PERCEIVED as anti-israeli to be described as an anti-semite… Lets be be clear here Israel is a state that sanctions state sponsored assassination (illegal just about anywhere) & has no more right to exist than the US but of course everyone in the US knows it has a extra special right to exist! So a historian says they are worse than nazis because they didn’t learn from the holocaust – what is anti-semitic about that??? For all you bible belt republicans out there – please read the book of joshua in the bible & you will find the first example of ethnic cleansing…

    So Obama’s pastor says some things that gets youtubed into a 1 minute summary. The man was a marine. But now he is anti-american. freedom of speech means he is entitled to his opinionj however wacky. Obama said he didn’t agree with him so why is he getting tarred with all the crap?

    It is really hard to escape the conclusion that there are one set of rules for white (wasps, catholics or jews) & another for black/minorities (non-wasps, muslims etc) in the US. This from a country that tells everyone about freedom (& then has shit like guantamaco (spelling?), torture on its record! And americans wonder why no one takes them seriously outside the US!!

  • Let’s get to the meat of the hypocrisy here. The fact that people believe that Jesus wouldn’ damn America for slavery (or bigotry) are gravely ignorant of their own faith. Christianity does NOT equal America. Worshipping America in church does NOT equal Christianity folks!! In case you didn’t know it, Jesus was a radical. That’s what got him crucified. DUH!

    I recommend reading the book: THE MYTH OF A CHRISTIAN NATION. It is right on the money about Christianity becoming a civil religion (i.e. a religion in name only) in this country. We have conflated Christianity and patriotism. Putting America before the kingdom of God is idolatry. You can be proud of America and still call it out on its wicked ways! In fact, we are obligated to call it out.

    The United Church of Christ, is a denomination that practices radical love. It has even been called “liberal” and had its commercials banned on TV for welcoming gays.

  • SmilingDixie: Whether it is the code word ‘muslim’ or the code word ‘radical christian’, it is just a cover that is ‘cleaner’ than saying “I ain’t voting for no nig** for president.”

    I hope that this attitude is at least operating subconciously for the most part, but yeah, I think that pretty much sums it up.

  • Mary

    Because Barry is not his name and he is not afraid to hide his roots. As much as I do not Obama, you have to admire that

  • obama could be a muslim, yeti, mooney, atheist, I could really give a rats @ss- What he really is is a flaming liberal that makes hubert humphrey look like ronald reagan. The man is a socialist plain and simple- with the endorsement of a religious racist he called pastor. BE AFRAID of this MAN if you value your way of life. He will take from the rich and middle class and bring us all down to prop up the millions that do not want to earn and only want things GIVEN to them. Thanks for listening comrades-long live mother Russia

  • It’s a strange, weird, and beautiful world.

    You don’t have to live in rural Ohio to see “stupidness.”

    I travel all over this country and see and hear incredibly ignorant human things all the time.

    No segment of the population is immune – rural, suburban, urban, young, old, rich, poor, white, black, educated or not, conservative or progressive, north, south, east, west.

    I just visited my hometown of Los Angeles and couldn’t believe the level of unawareness and stupidity – even from the supposedly hip west side.

    On one level, it seems totally impossible for someone not to know anything about Rev. Wright.

    On another level, not knowing who Rev. Wright is could be an incredibly hip and aware thing.

    Politics, as practiced in this country, has a fair share of “mindlessness,” and unfortunately affects too many of those involved – kind of like the sports culture.

    As a human being trying to achieve saneness, sometimes I feel that the only rational response to politics is to just ignore it. Although, that doesn’t seem quite right either.

    So how does one make sense of any of it? It’s a crazy world, humans are just nuts and oh so flawed. We are dammed if we do and dammed if we don’t.

    I firmly believe that we all deserve a round of applause for just keeping our heads about us with all the nonsense we have to navigate through each day.

    And also, what’s so bad about jicama?

  • Part of my job involves customer technical support, so I speak from some experience, and you’d better believe that at least a full ONE QUARTER of the population of America are not just dumb but WILLFULLY IGNORANT.

    They don’t want to be burdened with facts, they don’t want to learn better ways to do anything, and they’re timid and easily led anywhere.

    The only shock is that these “Muslim” figures aren’t higher.

  • Earlier this week I was speaking to an Egyptian businessowner here in Los Angeles. Out of the blue he mentioned that he had noticed the Obama bumper sticker on my car and wanted me to know that Obama was a secret Muslim. I asked him if he were serious, and he assured me that Obama is a Muslim and that “he will destroy America.”

    For this extraordinary assertion he offered scant but bizarre evidence, which I decline to mention here. I pressed him on these claims, but his belief is adamantine.

    At some point he mentioned that he is voting for McCain. I asked him if there were any of McCain’s policies which he particularly likes, and his answer was “I’m a Republican. I have a family. I’m for McCain.” The end.

    This is the first person I have met face-to-face who actually admits believing that Obama is Muslim.

  • I saw the people in RURAL mississippi -you know all those dumb ignorant rural folk rolling up their sleeves after hurrican katrina and digging out and helping their neighbors- no whinning crying and screaming for someone to save them-same can not be said for URBAN new orleans!!! Give me the ignorant rural people everytime.-At least they try to earn what they get.

  • the darwin test is what made america great and also compassion for the people or thing that needs a helping hand- I as well as most of america will give even if we really don’t have much to give-but do not tell me that a person on welfare should be given a free ride their whole life -there is a limit to compassion and it turns into taking advantage of your situation. I am no longer compassionate-just resentful- Michele Obama preaching to me how her life was so horrible and how she was never proud to be an american -my freakin tax dollars sent her and her husband to ivy league schools-something my children will never be able to do- am I bitter-not at all, my children will work for what they get and be proud to be an american. Of course usen rural folks is kind of backwards and wes just don’t know how the real world is- we just know how life is in our little plot of farmland or as we folk like to call it the holler

  • “Muslim” = “Black Radical” = “Foreign” = “Terrorist” = “Jap” = “Communist” = “Abolitionist” = “Jacobin” = “N*****”

    The sentiment is exactly the same over all of American history; only the “Scary Other’ signifier changes.

    My conservative, conspiratorial, shockingly ignorant WHITE pastor said the other day that “the Muslims are behind” the recent violence in Kenya. Of course, Kenya is only 10% Muslim and both sides in the conflict were Christian. He might as well have been saying “the Communists are behind it.” It’s okay to be an ignorant jerk if you’re white, though.

  • Jenk, the huge majority of welfare recipients are white. And a huge portion are rural.

    And they deserve the help. So do all citizens who are in need regardless of skin color.

    This is EXACTLY the point Obama made in his speech on race — white working folks have a racial resentment (that’s you, Jenk) which is understandable, but entirely non-factual. That is, entirely wrong. Somebody has done you wrong, but it’s not who you think it is. Blacks and whites who are getting the short end of our failing economy could find solutions if they didn’t keep blaming each other. Wake up, dude.

  • I am so fed up with the fear masked as anger in politics as illustrated by “jenk.”

    When any of us sees someone in distress we offer help. We do this because our humanity demands it of ourselves.

    It is only in the abstract that our obtuse, vitriolic, mean-spirited fear comes out as we forsake our humanity.

    I don’t completely trust Obama, but one phrase he uttered in his first grand primary victory speech keeps coming to mind. I paraphrase – we are not as different as we are led to believe.

    I don’t know if he is truly sincere in this belief, but to my knowledge he is the only remaining candidate who has uttered such a sentiment. Plus, my instinct tells me that he just might believe it.

    The vitriol coming his way for thinking like this is just sad and disillusioning. Some people are so afraid that they just have to lash out at anyone or anything that seems threatening in anyway.

    Never mind that they haven’t taken the time to think about the issue or examined their inner thoughts to try and realize the roots to their feelings, they will just react and lash out.

    Anything will do; Obama’s a Muslim, he is a liberal, he is unpatriotic, his wife is ungrateful, he will take my money, he will destroy our nation, his pastor is a racist, he is a socialist, and on and on and on.

    My anger and frustration is only surpassed by my sadness and exasperation.

    To some the thought that we are all more similar than dissimilar and that we should all take care of each other are fearful notions.

    There’s nothing here to fear, unless of course one fears their own humanity.

  • I cannot believe some people are so upset about Pastor Jeremiah Wright comments about racism in America. When he was just exposing his own pain and anger about how people of color have been treated for CENTURIES IN AMERICA!!! If that short twenty second clip has people feeling so uncomfortable. Take a minute to meditate on how the majority of people of color, especially AFRICAN-AMERICANS feel when we experience discrimination and prejudicy on our jobs, while shopping, while driving, while simply living. Every time we turn on the news we see one of our own getting beat and killed by the police department and treated unfairly in the judicial system. EVERY SINGLE DAY WE EXPERIENCE HARSHNESS, RUDENESS, GLARING LOOKS AND SARCASM FROM THE MOUTHS OF WHITE PEOPLE – WHICH MAKES US UNCOMFORTABLE EVERY MINUTE OF OUR LIVES. Have you forgot about the slave trade, the middle passage, Jim Crow and Overt and Subtle racist behavior still present in 2008. African -American have a justified right to be terrified living in this society considering how we were brought here. So if twenty-seconds have you feeling scared, just think about how we feel when hate crimes and comments have been inflicted upon us for HUNDREDS OF YEARS!!!–GET A CLUE!!!

  • Not to mention SH that Rev. Wright also spoke the truth.

    It has been mentioned in a few of the blogs sympathetic to the Rev. that there were a couple of “over the line” sentiments expressed by Wright, but I failed to find those.

    After seeing the extended excerpts of his sermons I didn’t hear him say anything other than the truth. He is owed an apology by all who took him to task on any level, and Obama doesn’t need to distance himself from anything that I heard Wright say.

  • I swear, believing in UFO’s makes a hell of alot more sense than believing in some politicians.

  • what is wrong with these people?

    Simple. They’re stupid. A condition that, while it afflicts conservatives more than moderates or liberals, is one that crosses party, racial, and economic lines.

    This has been another edition…yada yada yada.

  • As far as Obamma being a Moslem is concerned, I seem to recall something in the constitution saying there shall not be any test of religion for public office. Who gives a tinker’s damn what faith the man is of? I plan to vote for him this November, unless the bodies of a dozen or so boys and young men are found hidden beneath his house (or if Clinton gets the nomination).

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