McCain’s ‘academic argument’

On “Hardball” the other day, John McCain was confronted a bit with his record of siding with the Bush White House on Iraq policy. McCain didn’t want to talk about the past.

“We can look back at the past and argue about whether we should have gone to war or not, whether we should have invaded or not, and that’s a good academic argument. But we’re there now, and the question is, is what we do in the future.”

“Academic argument.” Holding leading senators accountable for their votes is “academic.” Looking for some sense of responsibility from those who seek the presidency is “academic.”

As Yglesias put it, “Over 4,000 people died in this academic arguments. People need to use the term “trillion” to express its fiscal cost. And, obviously, the question about whether or not it was a good idea speaks to some important points of doctrine and theory. This isn’t like quibbling over some vote on some amendment back in 1983, it was the biggest national security policy decision of the current era.”

Atrios added, “Proving he’s truly at one with the Village, John McCain thinks it’s just an academic question of whether it was a good decision to invade another country, create a situation in which hundreds of thousands of citizens of that country die, cost a trillion dollars and 4000+ and counting US lives. Because the Village is an accountability free zone, where as long as you agree with the serious people you can never be wrong, and even if you were it doesn’t matter so stop mentioning it.”

That’s clearly right, but I think this is a uniquely annoying problem for McCain.

The thing that’s always struck me as odd about McCain’s campaign pitch is that it only works if you refuse to look below the surface.

McCain, for example, goes to great lengths to emphasize his past. He’s running on his “experience.” The entire pitch so far has been based on a backwards-looking approach — look at his family history, his military service during Vietnam, and his quarter-century in Congress.

It sounds great, until we actually want to scrutinize this experience, at which point the past is an “academic exercise,” and the only thing that matters is “the future.”

The argument, in a nutshell, is that McCain’s past matters more than anything else, except when he decides it shouldn’t.

Stephen Colbert explained this very well recently.

“[W]hen you question his record he says this: ‘I want to make it very clear this is not about excisions that were made — decisions that were made in the past.’ Now, decisions that were made in the past is how people without experience define experience. So how can McCain claim to be more qualified of a candidate because of his experience yet also claim that any history of bad decisions is irrelevant? Easy. Experience. You see, he is experienced enough to know that some experience is relevant, like the fact that he has experience. While other experience, like his previous experiences, are irrelevant.”

It’s quite a compelling argument, isn’t it?

Speaking of “academic arguments,” spot the ironic coincidence in the start of Passover … the anniversary of the Oklahoma City Incident … and the birth anniversary of Adolf Hitler.

All of which conspire this weekend, as if you didn’t know.

  • Colbert really is incredible. Too bad too many people don’t actually understand that its parody.

  • McCain can get out of discussing *any* subject by saying “that’s a good academic argument” because, as everyone knows, he may be all kinds of things, but “academic” he’s not. What was it? 6th from the bottom of his class? 5th? So, all academic questions are out of his ken… But, perhaps, he mis-spoke; perhaps he meant “disputable”, rather than “academic”?

  • It’s also ironic that Republicans equate education with elitism, yet McCain dismisses bad decisions as “academic” at a college. But then anyone with common sense (the intelligence you’re born with) knows that you learn from experience. And what you’re supposed to learn from it is to use your common sense.

  • Iraq is not an “academic argument” when Iran is in play. We need a president that can learn from mistakes.

  • Let’s ask McCain the follow-up that isn’t so academic. Who is better qualified to be president? Someone whose judgment has been identical to Bush’s and wrong at every step or someone whose judgment has been proven to be right all along?

  • Ummm.. Not seeing your argument about learning from mistakes. It was McCain who practically hit Bush over the head and demanded that Bush change personnel, change tactics, and change the entire plan in Iraq. So what’s your point?

  • I think Barack Obama and every democrat needs to start hitting John McCain with this quote. Talk about being elitist and out of touch.

    That so called “academic argument” has real meaning to 4000 dead soldiers, 150,000+ soldiers in the field and their families and loved ones. Not to mention every American citizen who has to pay $16,000 (or was it $32,000) for this war so far.

    Where is the manufactured outrage? Where is the echo chamber with the endless reverb of this quote?

  • 8. Jonathon Moseley said:Take a look at the declassified memo during the Scooter Libbey trial, that proved that Saddam Hussein WAS in fact building nuclear bombs…

    If they tried to buy yellowcake but weren’t successful, then how were they “building nuclear bombs” without yellowcake? At best, taken at face value, this is evidence Saddam wanted to restart his nuclear program but wasn’t able to get access to the materials. Your logical skills need some serious work.

  • Cheney’s version of “It’s academic” is “I reject the premise of your question.”

  • Moseley, @8 &,

    Is this your real surname, or have you adopted it in admiration of the Brit pro-Nazi movement?

  • It would be academic if the Iraq Invasion were a mere paper exercise gone wrong. You know, like playing Risk and lost an invasion of Mesopotamia because you didn’t roll enough sixes. All that died were some plastic counters.

    However, in the real world, all of us get judged on our past decisions. It’s really too bad for McCain that he has a history of incredibly poor judgment and no real strategic though beyond reacting with his volcanic temper.

    Maverick McCain never really existed outside of the media and those who hoped for something better (I would be one of those who bought the hype and am ashamed I did)

  • “Faced with this criticism in the past, McCain has claimed that it was not his responsibility to “involve ourselves in the ethics process [of senators].” John Mc Cain,_________________________________________________________________Courtesy HuffPo,”McCain Witheld Controversial Abramoff E-Mail,”Sam Stein,Feb.25,2008.

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