Comparing McCain to an ‘Internet stock circa 1999’

Looking at the Gallup Daily Tracking Polls every day, as some of us do, we see two sets of numbers — Clinton vs. Obama among Dems, and McCain vs. both Dems among all voters. The prior is volatile and unpredictable; the latter is so steady, it’s hardly worth watching.

Take a look at today’s report, for example. Over the last few weeks, Obama’s lead was huge, then small, then gone, then big again — but all the while, in a general election match-up, he and McCain are just about tied at 45% each. The same goes for a match-up pitting Clinton and McCain. No matter what’s going on in the news, or what the controversy of the day is, these two polls just don’t budge; the numbers remain the same.

So, is this encouraging or discouraging? I posed the question last week, noting that there’s two entirely opposite but completely reasonable interpretations here. One is that Dems are lucky to still be tied with McCain, given that he’s had it easy while Clinton and Obama have been tearing each other to shreds. The other is that Dems should be crushing McCain, given that he’s running on a Bush-like platform, and Americans are thoroughly unhappy with the status quo.

Jonathan Cohn argues today that McCain’s 45% standing against Obama or Hillary “represents a ceiling of his support.”

After all, barring some outside shock to the political system, there is no reason to think McCain’s numbers will go up. People already have overwhelmingly positive feelings about him–stronger than about either of the Democratic candidates. They see him as a likeable, principled war hero whom they trust on national security. Very few realize that he has supported privatizing Social Security, that he opposes universal health insurance, that he supports free trade without qualification, and so on. Once the voters learn these things, at least some of them are likely to abandon him.

If anything, McCain has the look of an Internet stock circa 1999: Great numbers, lousy fundamentals.

That’s relatively persuasive, but it’s still not a good reason to let the Democratic race continue.

Kevin agrees with Jon, and takes the argument a little further.

…McCain simply isn’t as strong a candidate as people seem to think he is. Factors working against him include Bush fatigue, a declining economy, his age, his need to pander heavily to the Christian right, his hawkishness in a year when the public isn’t feeling very hawkish, his history of flip flopping for transparently political reasons, and a portfolio of extremely unpopular positions (like privatizing Social Security) that Democrats can make a lot of hay with in the fall. What’s more — and go ahead, call me an optimist — I suspect that at some point there’s going to be a press backlash against McCain. His media image is a bubble, sustained by a sort of childlike faith, and once that faith starts to wobble — something that may already have started — the bubble is likely to pop. Before long, I suspect that a lot of reporters are going to start recognizing his faux openness as more faux than open.

Of course, this all assumes that Hillary Clinton decides not to be completely suicidal and take down the party in a huge ball of flames. But I don’t think she will. Even the Clintons have to bow to reality eventually.

I’d take issue with Kevin’s optimism over the media — I’ve been waiting for nine years for reporters to consider a backlash against McCain, and it’s never happened — but the rest of the analysis is sound. McCain, as a candidate, isn’t especially scary at all. He’s clumsy, unprincipled, arrogant, often belligerent, and usually confused. He was the best Republican candidate in the GOP field, but it was an awfully weak field.

But taking all of this into consideration, that’s all the more incentive to end the Democratic race and get the general election started. Like, now. Dems have a very powerful case to make against McCain, but they can’t make it while the party is divided in half, and they’re waiting until late August for a nominee.

McCain has high favorability ratings, nearly universal name ID, and the enduring love of every major news outlet in the country. The sooner Dems start making their case against McCain — which really isn’t that tough to make — Dems can position themselves for an incredibly successful, possibly even historic, year — at the top of the ballot on down.

The chances of this happening in a truncated, eight-week general election campaign, with a divided Democratic Party and a Republican nominee that will have a five-month head start, are considerably less. Cohn argues that it can come together for Dems anyway, so the party can just be patient and let all of this play out.

I’m not nearly as optimistic.

Clintons to face fraud trial

WORLDNET DAILY- Judge setting date, testimony to include ex-president, senator

While Hillary Clinton battles Barack Obama on the campaign trail, a judge in Los Angeles is quietly preparing to set a trial date in a $17 million fraud suit that aims to expose an alleged culture of widespread corruption by the Clintons and the Democratic Party.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868

  • I’m not nearly as optimistic.

    Nor am I.

    McCain can evolve his opinions and policies with impunity until he hits a winner.
    Calling him a flip-flopper won’t gain traction against him. Why is this? I’ve no idea. Why did Reagan seem to have a teflon suit? Same damn thing.

    So… anyways… I see Yahoo has this homepage headline up:

    McCain says U.S. in recession, vows war on poverty.

    Nice lede. See what I mean? It is never too late for him to appeal to the center left and the center right. He is fine tuning his pandering. And starting to hit the ball out of the park.

    In regards to the Clinton lawsuit thing at #1. Even if it is true it won’t matter.
    The market of public opinion has already factored in the fact that the Clintons are crooks and liars. Hillary could shoot a supporter with a shotgun while out hunting duck… and it won’t shift her stock value much anymore.

  • Geez get a grip will ya? In reality voters have just been ignoring McBush. He’s close to an idiot when he speaks and he’s basically said nothing about any of the issues that if challenged wouldn’t make him look like a fool. If dems ae tearing themselves up so bad as you say then He should have a huge lead because he’s getting a free pass and an apology by the press who continually have to explain what he really meant to say. The rest of us just have to tolerate the McCain ordeal for now so we ignore him. But make no mistake…republican rule is at an end. No one wants this disaster to continue any longer. Many of us still want impeachment so there is no way voters will allow this present state to continue in spite of how republicans try to spin it, their obstructionism to good government is coming to an end. No way a republican will win the WH unless they steal it. Too much is at stake like the SC replacements, and the DoJ being fumigated, and the continuation of our democracy.

  • Some pundit’s ask disingenuously, Why Can’t Barack Close the Deal? The TRUTH OF THE MATTER, is that Barack is fighting TWO opponents, Clinton & the Republican Machine: Joe Scarborough, Pat Buchanan, Wolf Blitzer, Fox News and they fight a lot dirtier, louder, harder than “light”! They fight with lies, distortions, brain wash and money. Barack is doing something new and necessary, though slower because a loud voice gets a lot more attention than a sane, compassionate, low-speaking one, like Barack’s. That is why he is having such a hard time. Look at the unevenness and unfairness of the last debate? The new Republican’s and Clinton’s talking point is why cannot Barack put it away. The answer is he is fighting a three-headed Giant, the Clintons and the Republican Machine — it is a Giant compared to Barack and the assault goes on 24/7 starting with Morning Joe and continuing all day with Fox News! Then there are the new swift-boat TV adds and false emails, he is being blanketed with — and then they smile to themselves and ask smugly, “Why can’t he put her away? Knowing the dark answer to this question and the dark seed they hope to plant into the minds of the people who are unable to think for themselves and are influenced by fear and ignorance. But humanity’s heart is opening to the light and the energy of goodwill. May be this time, we can overcome these awful forces of destruction to mankind, may be this time.

    In Michael Moore’s endorsement of Obama, he states “I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, “Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for ‘spiritual counseling?’ THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!” But no, Obama won’t throw that at her. It wouldn’t be right. It wouldn’t be decent. She’s been through enough hurt. And so he remains silent and takes the mud she throws in his face. That’s why the crowds who come to see him are so large. That’s why he’ll take us down a more decent path. That’s why I would vote for him if Michigan were allowed to have an election.”

  • Hillary could shoot a supporter with a shotgun while out hunting duck

    In fact it would help her by keeping people from talking about the bush-clinton-bush-clinton criminal cabal that they want people to ignore/overlook.

    Rational people know that America was never meant to be ruled by elite monarchs – another clinton presidency has to be rejected on its face because it is so contrary to what this nation was founded on and goes directly against what polls overwhelmingly show Americans want.

    People want CHANGE and they want NEW LEADERSHIP. We do not want 28 years of a “leaders” that represent the same interests that brought us dur chimpfuhrer.

  • No way a republican will win the WH unless they steal it.

    There is another way – by hook & crook, make it a shillary/mclame contest. Then, either way, we get bush-clinton-bush-clinton/mclame – more of the same.

  • Until yesterday, I might have agreed that as soon as the sights get turned on McCain, people would smarten up and all would be well. Now, that I’ve seen how a majority of people just stick with what they’ve “always known” (he’s “basically decent” a “straight talker” and “a moderate” — thank you Bill, for helping with that).

    Yesterday I was talking with someone here, Clinton supporter, college and graduate degree (okay, it’s in education…and I can say that, since I’m going back for yet another degree in it). I mentioned Clinton and Colombia. She had no idea what I was talking about.

    Just before that she was talking about her daughter, whose fiance is in the military. This, she at least prefaced with “this is just what she hears from him.” The daughter is seriously thinking she should vote for McCain, because, she hears, he is the only candidate who plans to leave Iraq in a reasonable way, rather than pulling out all at once, instantly.

    Suffice it to say that it was difficult to keep my head from exploding. Besides, she’d already voted. But if I’ve learned anything of late, it’s to never underestimate the uninformedness of Americans, democrats, republicans or independents. It’s hard after a while not to sound like some crazy person, as you try to drop in a few details into a conversation.

  • I should clarify from that last posting — the daughter also believed that McCain intended to get them out quickly.

  • I’m mixed on this. I am more optimistic as I suspect McCain – and his media enablers – can’t handle a reality based campaign without going down in flames.

    But I don’t think eight weeks is enough to do it.

    If it’s true Obama is going to turn on McCain now that could help – especially if Clinton tries to one-up him and do the same thing. If both of them hammer McCain more, that could be what’s needed – and turn the narrative around.

    Which is another way of saying this hinges on Hillary. Which is depressing.

  • I agree that McCain will “go down in flames”. Like Giuliani’s 9-11 monotone, he has has only one storyline – about the Hanoi Hilton. When he is pressed on an issue, he resorts to that scenario; it’s all that he has. When George Snuffalupagus asked why he didn’t think other Americans deserved health insurance as good as his, McCain reminded us that he didn’t have such good insurance when the Viet Cong imprisoned him. WTF! What does that have to do with anything ?

  • I’m with you, Steve. This drawn-out primary is like handing the keys to McCain. The Dem nominee is at serious risk to be too damaged and to not have enough time to have any kind of chance. I also agree with your skepticism about the media; I rolled my eyes when I read Kevin this morning. If they were going to turn on McCain, they would have done so by now; he’s given them plenty of reasons. Ain’t gonna happen.

  • Don’t forget that the ongoing battle for the Democratic nomination has dominated the political news since Super Tuesday, so no one has been paying attention to McCain. Don’t believe me? Quick, where did McCain speak today? I don’t know, and I’d bet most of you don’t either — and we’re more politically aware than most Americans. We’re reading this blog, aren’t we?

    Think of it as free publicity.

    .

  • Moderates and Independents think McCan’t is ‘Authentic’.

    Which is why they think he will go back on every conservative promise he has made in this campaign and:
    Get us out of Iraq,
    Not outlaw Abortion,
    Cut the deficit by raising taxes,
    etc., etc., etc..

    I’m not sure 45% is McCan’t’s ceiling. I’d love to believe that, but I don’t really think so.

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