Wednesday’s Mini-Report

Today’s edition of quick hits.

* The Clinton campaign will still trail Obama’s fundraising totals by quite a bit, but this is an extraordinarily impressive one-day haul: “Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) campaign said Wednesday afternoon it was “on track” to raise $10 million in online donations in the 24 hours since the Pennsylvania primary was called in her favor.”

* Big vote tonight in the Senate on the “Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act,” which passed the House nearly a year ago. Expect floor action in about a half an hour.

* Speaking of the Ledbetter bill, Clinton and Obama will return from the campaign trail to vote for the measure. John McCain, who has barely shown up for work in over a year, will not be there.

* Karl Rove’s lawyer concedes that Rove received requests to have Patrick Fitzgerald fired, but he didn’t follow up on them. Hmm.

* There’s a surprising amount of interest in whether Clinton won Pennsylvania by 10 points, 9.4 points, or 9.2 points.

* McClatchy: “The Veterans Administration has lied about the number of veterans who’ve attempted suicide, a senator charged Wednesday, citing internal e-mails that put the number at 12,000 a year when the department was publicly saying it was fewer than 800. ‘The suicide rate is a red-alarm bell to all of us,’ said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash. Murray also said that the VA’s mental health programs are being overwhelmed by Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans, even as the department tries to downplay the situation.”

* Why am I not surprised: “You didn’t think that John Yoo would come easily, did you? Earlier this month, House Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers (D-MI) invited Yoo to testify to the committee about his time as the administration’s point man for authorizing the use of torture in interrogations. Now Yoo, through his lawyer, is saying that he’s not coming.”

* Something to keep an eye on: “House Republicans Wednesday began circulating a discharge petition to force a vote on the Senate version of a bill seeking changes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.”

* The NYT’s Thomas Friedman was attacked today — with a pie.

* The United States has less than 5% of the world’s population, but “almost a quarter of the world’s prisoners.” Incredible.

* A little something CNN executives should have read before hiring Tony Snow.

* It’s going to take a long time to clean up Bush’s scandalous mess at the Environmental Protection Agency: “The Union of Concerned Scientists said that more than half of the nearly 1,600 EPA staff scientists who responded online to a detailed questionnaire reported they had experienced incidents of political interference in their work.”

* The latest cover of The New Republic really is a cheap shot.

* And why, oh why, was top Clinton campaign surrogate and former DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe on Fox News last night, praising it as the “fair and balanced” network? Without a hint of irony or satire?

Anything to add? Consider this an end-of-the-day open thread.

And why, oh why, was top Clinton campaign surrogate and former DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe on Fox News last night, praising it as the “fair and balanced” network? Without a hint of irony or satire?

Can’t bite the hand that feeds you.

How blind are Democrats that they can’t see this?

And I like the cover of TNR. She deserves every satirical jab on that cover. Besides, if she can’t take the heat…

  • The New Republic cover is more than a cheap shot, or do you think racism is a cheap shot too?

  • Tim Noah at Slate has a good column on HRC’s wildly inconsistent appeal to various metrics to bolster her case. In it, he links to the PA results, showing that with 99.51% counted, her margin is 9.2%. I don’t think even Clinton’s most oblivious supporters could round that up to 10% with a straight face.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2189812/

  • Of all the reasons to hit Tom Friedman with a pie — why’d it have to be for something he’s actually right about? What are the odds?

  • Karl Rove’s lawyer concedes that Rove received requests to have Patrick Fitzgerald fired, but he didn’t follow up on them. Hmm.

    Frequent requests, no less. What is interesting here is that supposedly Rove had no role in the firing of any of the US Attorneys. So you might think he would be the last person someone would go to if they wanted Fitzgerald gone. And it wouldn’t be necessary to even suggest that he didn’t take any actions, because he wouldn’t have been in a position to act.

  • “Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) campaign said Wednesday afternoon it was “on track” to raise $10 million in online donations in the 24 hours.”

    When I get up in the morning and have a cup of coffee in the first 15 minutes, I’m “on track” to have 96 cups of coffee in a 24 hour period.

    Check in tomorrow — and expect to keep waiting — to see if that particular train ever arrives as advertised. The wording is too artfully crafted; I’m not buying it.

    Too many credulous reporters jumping in and running with this story. When will they learn?

  • Mary at 2: The New Republic cover is more than a cheap shot, or do you think racism is a cheap shot too?

    Well, you’ve always seemed to enjoy it when you’re practicing it, but where you’re finding it on that cover I can’t discern. Text in your head, perhaps?

    Having said that, that cover sucks and they should be ashamed of themselves. It’s a good thing that Hillary is a fighter, has True Grit, and can take the rough stuff and keep going, unlike that candy-ass Obama whose response to getting punched is to keep winning.

    Moving on to Terry McAuliffe, his tossing Fox News’ salad is nothing to be surprised at. Remind me again why it’s called the DLC instead of the RLC?

  • * And why, oh why, was top Clinton campaign surrogate and former DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe on Fox News last night, praising it as the “fair and balanced” network? Without a hint of irony or satire?

    What few people seem to understand is that Obama is a threat to the established order, and that much of Clinton’s behavior (and that of her troops) is a response to that threat. Forget the historic possibility of the first female or first black party nominee — the real defining aspect of this race is that it’s drawn a line between the established power brokers and those who believe that the power of democracy resides with the people who vote.

    Faced with extinction, Clinton and her troops stand on the only side of that line they can — which, as members of the established power elite, just happens to be on the same side as the Republicans. Survival is the most powerful motivator and the stakes could not be much higher.

  • Why is McAullife calling Fox F&B? For the same reason Hills is now best buds with Scaiffe.

  • Mary # 2 and Ugh – anything that keeps the media or public from spending even a second contemplating a bush-clinton-bush-clinton string of control for 28 or more years is a “win” for shillary and the criminal cabal behind the current administration.

    mcsame=shillary – so they win either way.

    It is not rational to think that 2 elite families are the most qualified to rule this nation and the world, we all know it too. America was not suppose to be a monarchy.

    Even the lamest, most brain-dead among us know this – so we see and ugly campaign, devoid of issues, and designed to prevent anyone from talking about the obvious.

    Americans overwhelmingly want change and they will not get it with from the bush-clinton-bush-clinton crowd.

  • What few people seem to understand is that Obama is a threat to the established order, and that much of Clinton’s behavior (and that of her troops) is a response to that threat. Forget the historic possibility of the first female or first black party nominee — the real defining aspect of this race is that it’s drawn a line between the established power brokers and those who believe that the power of democracy resides with the people who vote.

    This is exactly right, although I think more people are starting to understand this as the Clintonites’ behavior becomes more desperate and disgraceful. The screeching from the Carvilles and the McAuliffes and every other has-been who owes his or her career to the Clintons and the DLC are fighting for their very survival. We are watching a changing of the guard of Democratic party power. I welcome our new non-triangulating overlords.

  • For the esteemed Mr. Thomas Cleaver: My 10-year-old (the one whop calls Bu$h “the dummy in the White House”) just taped a Charlie Chaplain mustache on that Hillary pic from TNR’s cover.

    I thought you’d like to know….

  • And why, oh why, was top Clinton campaign surrogate and former DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe on Fox News last night, praising it as the “fair and balanced” network? Without a hint of irony or satire?

    Clinton isn’t moving to the right to appeal to Reagan Democrats. She’s moving to the right to appeal to Limbaugh Republicans.

  • How nice to know, Steve, that you’re raising your son to be as disrespectful and mocking of strong women as you apparently are.

  • * The Clinton campaign will still trail Obama’s fundraising totals by quite a bit, but this is an extraordinarily impressive one-day haul: “Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) campaign said Wednesday afternoon it was “on track” to raise $10 million in online donations in the 24 hours since the Pennsylvania primary was called in her favor.”

    They’ve reported a 2.5 mil haul, so I’m not quite sure what their math is for “being on track” to 10 mil, except as explained by retr2327, @6. And even that 2.5 mil… I’ll believe it when I see it, especially if it’s supposed to be coming from small online donations, a la Obama’s. But we won’t see the real numbers till early July, when the second quarter will be over and the FEC reports will be in and published. At which point, we won’t be told how much of the total was pulled in when (ie the first 24 hrs or the first 24 days)

    What this whole thing sounds like to me is a scam; make people believe they’re raking it in hand over fist and, perhaps, someone will think they’re onto a winner and will actually donate.

  • There’s a surprising amount of interest in whether Clinton won Pennsylvania by 10 points, 9.4 points, or 9.2 points.

    First of all, any grade school math teacher will tell us that 9.4 rounds to 9, not 10.

    Second, prior to the election the pundits consistently asserted that Hillary needed “more than” 10 points to keep hope alive (all the pundits were wrong since Obama already “closed the deal” way back in Wisconsin). For the sake of ratings, 9.4 magically rounds up to 10, 10 is double digits and close enough to “more than” to keep her in the news.

    Essentially Hillary has those network guys by balls. Unfortunately for her, Obama has already won and when all is said and done, she has and will continue to go the way of Zell Lieberman.

  • IFP – your shtick is getting old. Those of us that don’t support shillary and exercise to express our opinions (as private citizens, not as public servants) as to what she stands for and where her loyalties actually are don’t care about her gender.

    You are just distracting from the obvious – America will not support a bush-clinton-bush-clinton dynasty that extends the control of the cabal behind dur chimpfurhere.

    The vast majority of America wants change and most posters/readers here understand we will not get it from the folks that created the mess we are currently in.

    Spew all the hate you want about gender – its actually about “fresh blood” and realizing that America was not meant to be controled by a ruling class of elitests that hide behind a george bush, bill clinton, george bush, shillary clinton for the next 28 years.

    Are you going to support Jeb as our next emperor too?

  • Libra – its the same math that is used to disenfranchise voters in PA, OH, TX, and CA when they live in areas that overwhelmingly support Obama. Its the same math that brought us dur chimpfurher in 2000 & 2008.

    It is the same math that takes these crooked, unverifiable results and inflates them to 10%, proclaiming it an overwhelming victory when shillary had a 30% lead over Obama a few weeks ago.

    They are lying about money now because they need to deflect any discussion/analysis of corrupt voting systems (in each large state shillary “wins”).

    Most of all, they need to “catapult propaganda” to keep us from talking about how America will never support 28 years of tyranny under bush-clinton-bush-clinton regimes that actually represent the criminal cabal behind the current administration.

    They will tell any lie to derail a serious dialog about CHANGE and the fact Americans know that they need someone other than a bush/clinton/mclame to get it.

  • little bear, IFP is satire. That said, I agree that it gets old. We get enough of that from the real thing (Mary) and I’ve reached the point where I skip past both of them.

    At least you know IFP is doing a slam (and a good one) but still…too much, too much and all.

  • As the sun sets on the Pennsylvania primary, can Obama and Clinton rise above their caricatures? The Forever Campaign is turning the candidates into caricatures, their policy positions lost in the shuffle of gotchas and spin: Obama, the well-spoken elitist who talks a good game but can’t close the sale or get anything done. Clinton, the disingenuous opportunist who will do anything to win and refuses to concede that she’s lost. Two bright, thoughtful candidates are being eclipsed by cartoon versions of themselves.

  • I actually agree with Mary about something. Yuck. The TNR cover is way over the line into misogynistic crap territory.

  • >

    News Flash: Hillary is running as a moderate Republican. Just now figuring this out???

  • sorry, messed up some tags …

    My #24 was about “…Terry McAuliffe on Fox …”

  • Aw, c’mon, MsJoanne — you read little bear‘s (!) posts and not mine? It’s not like I’m any crazier than he, and I’m a lot more literate.

  • Actually, I find the need to stand in defense of the Prof on this one. When you can satirize a thing ahead of the rabid dog and its self-righteous wrath, it is synonymous to “putting down” the rabid dog. And—unlike gun ownership—there is no 30-day waiting period before being able to wield satire as a weapon….

  • IFP, you are significantly more literate than many of the posters I read here and elsewhere. And, please, don’t think I don’t (on occasion) enjoy your posts. Immensely, at times.

    Alas, after reading the tripe that Mary posts (and I fully believe that Mary is not a Clinton supporter, as she purports, but a gooper playing off of the emotions of both Clinton and Obama supporters), I just can’t deal with it.

    I love ya, doll…sometimes. 😀 But your posts play well to regulars, but not to newcomers. And it comes off that you’re real (and Mary is real, which, again, I do not believe she is) and it gives all of us a bad name.

    The fact is that if Clinton wins the nod, I will hold not only my nose but my cookies as I vote for her (and I used to both like and respect her – no more). No matter, she will be VASTLY superior to McCain who wants to truly sink our country into never never land.

    Ok, I said my bit. I didn’t mean to offend…well, you at least. 😉

  • Big vote tonight in the Senate on the “Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act,” which passed the House nearly a year ago. Expect floor action in about a half an hour.

    And the Republicans kept their filibuster, even though there was a majority vote in favor. Their position was that “this will promote lawsuits.” Remember, “Republican” is always a synonym for “defendant.”

    “The Veterans Administration has lied about the number of veterans who’ve attempted suicide, a senator charged Wednesday, citing internal e-mails that put the number at 12,000 a year when the department was publicly saying it was fewer than 800. ‘The suicide rate is a red-alarm bell to all of us,’ said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash. Murray also said that the VA’s mental health programs are being overwhelmed by Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans, even as the department tries to downplay the situation.”

    Not just Iraq and Afghan vets. Last year, a good friend of mine, a Vietnam combat veteran, was told that he had been paid $200/month disability too much for six years and they were taking back – reducing checks that were $1,800 each to less than $900 a month for 18 months – his sole income. He was found dead that night, with the letter in his hand. I’m sure the government was able to finance a 20 minute firefight in Baghdad with that.

  • The TNR cover pisses me off… in part because the article it promotes is really good.

    Seriously, check it out… and ask yourself what sort of person empowers both this kind of chaos and the slimy likes of Mark Penn.

    Given the more-than-surface resemblance to Bill’s White House–minus the extracurricular shtupping, presumably–there’s no conclusion other than that the Clintons have descended into an endless cycle of self-parody that even IFP could never hope to match.

  • Steve (#13) – I looooooove it!!!!! 🙂

    Posted earlier elsewhere, but more relevant here:

    An interesting commentary from someone who directly knows the Sixties history he is pointing out:

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080505/hayden

    Why Hillary Makes My Wife Scream
    by TOM HAYDEN
    [posted online on April 22, 2008]

    My wife Barbara has begun yelling at the television set every time she hears Hillary Clinton. This is abnormal behavior, since Barbara is a meditative practitioner of everything peaceful and organic, and is inspired by Barack Obama’s transformational appeal.

    For Barbara, Hillary has become the screech on the blackboard. From First Lady to Lady Macbeth.

    It’s getting to me as well. Last year, I was somewhat reconciled to the prospect of supporting and pressuring Hillary as the nominee amidst the rising tide of my friends who already hated her, irrationally I thought. I was one of those people Barack accuses of being willing to settle. I even had framed a flattering autographed message from Hillary. But as the campaign has gone on and on, her signed portrait still leans against the wall in my study. I don’t know where she belongs anymore.

    At least Hillary was a known quantity in my life. I knew of the danger of her becoming more and more hawkish as she tried to break the ultimate glass ceiling. I also knew that she could be forced to change course if public opinion was fiercely opposed to the war. And I knew she was familiar with radical social causes from her own life experience in the Sixties. So my progressive task seemed clear: help build an anti-war force powerful enough to make it politically necessary to end the war. Been there, done that. And in the process, finally put a woman in the White House. A soothing bonus.

    But as the Obama campaign gained momentum, Hillary began morphing into the persona that has my pacifist wife screaming at the television set.

    Going negative doesn’t begin to describe what has happened. Hillary is going over the edge. Even worse are the flacks she sends before the cameras on her behalf, like that Kiki person, who smirks and shakes her head at the camera every time she fields a question. Or the real carnivores, like Howard Wolfson, Lanny Davis and James Carville, whose sneering smugness prevents countless women like my wife from considering Hillary at all.

    To use the current terminology, Hillary people are bitter people, even more bitter than the white working-class voters Barack has talked about. Because they circle the wagons so tightly, they don’t recognize how identical, self-reinforcing and out-of-touch they are.

    To take just one example, the imagined association between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers will suffice. Hillary is blind to her own roots in the Sixties. In one college speech she spoke of ecstatic transcendence; in another, she said, “our social indictment has broadened. Where once we exposed the quality of life in the world of the South and the ghettos, now we condemn the quality of work in factories and corporations. Where once we assaulted the exploitation of man, now we decry the destruction of nature as well. How much long can we let corporations run us?”

    She was in Chicago for three nights during the 1968 street confrontations. She chaired the 1970 Yale law school meeting where students voted to join a national student strike against an “unconscionable expansion of a war that should never have been waged.” She was involved in the New Haven defense of Bobby Seale during his murder trial in 1970, as the lead scheduler of student monitors. She surely agreed with Yale president Kingman Brewster that a black revolutionary couldn’t get a fair trial in America. She wrote that abused children were citizens with the same rights as their parents.

    Most significantly in terms of her recent attacks on Barack, after Yale law school, Hillary went to work for the left-wing Bay Area law firm of Truehaft, Walker and Burnstein, which specialized in Black Panthers and West Coast labor leaders prosecuted for being communists. Two of the firm’s partners, according to Treuhaft, were communists and the two others “tolerated communists”. Then she went on to Washington to help impeach Richard Nixon, whose career was built on smearing and destroying the careers of people through vague insinuations about their backgrounds and associates. (All these citations can be found in Carl Bernstein’s sympathetic 2007 Clinton biography, A Woman in Charge.)

    All these were honorable words and associations in my mind, but doesn’t she see how the Hillary of today would accuse the Hillary of the Sixties of associating with black revolutionaries who fought gun battles with police officers, and defending pro-communist lawyers who backed communists? Doesn’t the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whom Hillary attacks today, represent the very essence of the black radicals Hillary was associating with in those days? And isn’t the Hillary of today becoming the same kind of guilt-by-association insinuator as the Richard Nixon she worked to impeach?

    It is as if Hillary Clinton is engaged in a toxic transmission onto Barack Obama of every outrageous insult and accusation ever inflicted on her by the American Right over the decades. She is running against what she might have become. Too much politics dries the soul of the idealist.

    It is abundantly clear that the Clintons, working with FOX News and manipulating old Clinton staffers like George Stephanopoulos, are trying, at least unconsciously, to so damage Barack Obama that he will be perceived as “unelectable” to Democratic superdelegates. It is also clear that the campaign of defamation against Obama has resulted in higher negative ratings for Hillary Clinton. She therefore is threatening the Democratic Party’s chances for the White House, whether or not she is the nominee.

    Since no one in the party leadership seems able or willing to intervene against this self-destructive downward spiral, perhaps progressives need to consider responding in the only way politicians sometimes understand. If they can’t hear us screaming at the television sets, we can send a message that the Clintons are acting as if they prefer John McCain to Barack Obama. And follow it up with another message: if Clinton doesn’t immediately cease her path of destruction, millions of young voters and black voters may not send checks, may not knock on doors, and may not even vote for her if she becomes the nominee. That’s not a threat, that’s the reality she is creating.

  • Thanks for posting that T.C.

    FYI — The GOP is running anti-Obama ads in NC…further confirmation of what we already know…they’d rather face her is the general and if a Dem makes it to the White House, they’d rather it be her.

  • Tom, sad, sad story (the first). But I think the firefight that $900 a month would cover would be in milliseconds, not minutes.

    The second…excellent. 😀

  • At the end of March didn’t the Clinton campaign say they raised “in the neighborhood of 10 million $”? And then a few days later when the real numbers were filed wasn’t it more along the lines of 8.5? Maybe that’s the way they got to 10 today.

    And didn’t a pro-Obama group raise 1 million in a minute on Monday?

  • Boy, that New Republic article is certainly an interesting portrait of life in Versailles, particularly in the Hall of Mirrors. Talk about an “imperial court,” you could cast them all in the update of “I, Claudius” – “I, Clinton.” I’d say it looks like the court in the latter days of Augustus, and the reign of Tiberius.

  • very disappointing re the Ledbetter Act. 3 votes short; Reid did a nice job in that no Dems crossed lines. Most of the contested R’s crossed. We just don’t have enough D’s and moderate R’s in the Senate, period. the only two not voting were Hagel and McCain. Hopefully this is the beginningof a very large November gender gap. I suppose it was too much to hope for that frequently decent guys who are retiring anyway would break ranks and do the right thing (John Warner, I’m looking at you.)

  • Sams Club limits the amount of rice sold

    Sam’s Club, the membership warehouse division of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., is limiting how much rice customers can buy because of what it calls “recent supply and demand trends,” the company said Wednesday.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-080423-walmart-rice,0,7463084.story

    We sooooooooooooo need to return to buying local. The food will taste better, be fresher, and you support your local growers. Oh, and if you’re like me, you’ll consider buying meat from local ranchers. (I no longer eat beef unless it’s certified kosher or halal OR I get it from a local rancher. No more eating steaks at a restaurant for me. Downer cows scared me off. Sick cows make sick food.)

    Get yourselves off the food grid now! Buy from Farmer’s Markets, buy from local ranchers and farmers. Develop relationships now. The time is going to come when it’s worth it to buy from someone local because food at the stores is rising faster than you can say diesel fuel is already over $4.00 a gallon ($4.10 in Austin, TX).

    http://www.eatwild.com/ to find local farmers and ranchers.

    (h/t: Lex for the 411 on eatwild)

    TASTE THE DIFFERENCE!

  • Here’s my two cents for whatever that’s worth these days 😉

    The TNR cover goes over the line for what is an otherwise intersting piece of writing.

    On pace for $10 million my ass…can you say shilling for dollars?

    9.2 point win translates to about a net 8-10 delegate gain…big whup-de-doo! Obama has so got the nomination.

  • While I am on the topic of food…

    Flowers Have Lost Their Scent…and the consequences are enormous.

    Pollution is dulling the scent of flowers and impeding some of the most basic processes of nature, disrupting insect life and imperilling food supplies, a new study suggests.

    The potentially hugely significant research has found that gases mainly formed from the emissions of car exhausts prevent flowers from attracting bees and other insects in order to pollinate them. And the scientists who have conducted the study fear that insects’ ability to repel enemies and attract mates may also be impeded.

    The researchers say that pollution is dramatically cutting the distance travelled by the scent of flowers. Professor Jose Fuentes, said: “Scent molecules produced by flowers in a less polluted environment could travel for roughly 1,000 to 1,200 metres. But today they may travel only 200 to 300 metres. This makes it increasingly difficult for bees and other insects to locate the flowers.”

    The researchers found that the molecules are volatile, and quickly bond with pollutants such as ozone and nitrate radicals, mainly formed from vehicle emissions. This chemically alters the molecules so that they no longer smell like flowers. A vicious cycle is therefore set up where insects struggle to get enough food and the plants do not get pollinated enough to proliferate.

    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/20/8404/

    (h/t: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda from ThinkProgress)

  • For everyone (who is sane) who thought the TNR cover was over the top, what about it makes you say that? I’m genuinely curious.

    I’m also genuinely curious to see what Obama’s fundraising numbers for the last day will be. I know he got some cold hard from me.

  • doubful, what bothered me was the Hitler-esque salute. I found that rather offensive. Then there’s the Howard Dean scream like face.

    Other than that… 😉

  • CB: Now Yoo, through his lawyer, is saying that he’s not coming.

    Someone needs to write a book… but instead of calling it “All the President’s Men” it absolutely must have the title “All the Emperor’s Men.”

    Pudgy Yoo is betting he can find shelter under the Emperor’s umbrella. One has got to wonder though… is there room under there for a pudgy academic? He’d make a great fall guy.

  • beep52 @ 9….
    Best post of the day so far.

    That’s why I picked a McCain versus Hillary ticket three years ago.
    I was wrong of course.
    But only because: who could have imagined Barack Obama three years ago?

  • WOO HOO!!! 49 to go!

    ast of the DRE (Touch-Screen) Voting Machine Vendors Withdraws Attempt for Certification in the Empire State

    It’s now official. Liberty Election Systems has withdrawn their DRE from the New York State and has informed the State Board of Elections that they will not pursue further certification testing or fill their one current order. LibertyVote/Nedap was the only remaining vendor offering a DRE in New York. The move represents the end of an era in New York State, and could be a harbinger for what lies ahead in the rest of the nation…

    So for the first time since HAVA passed in 2002, New York State has no DREs of any type being purchased by any county, or undergoing NYS certification testing for 2009 purchases. For the vendors who for 6 years told us “New York is a DRE state”, we tell you now as we told you then, “Wrong. New York is a paper ballot state.”

    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5922

    Now if we could get FL on board. I know…not gonna happen.

  • …what bothered me was the Hitler-esque salute. -MsJoanne

    Ah, see I didn’t get that. I got ‘hailing a leaving bus.’ I see that face every time I’m in the city.

  • I posted the following in another thread much earlier today about internet fund raising differences between Hillary and Obama.

    I had gone over to ActBlue this morning to give a little extra to Barack’s campaign and compared the amounts raised and the number of donors of each candidate and the differences are astounding. Now, these are figures from ONE on-line donation site, but I’d think the figures probably parallel other on-line giving.

    Again, these figures are from ActBlue, total donations since the site was set up.

    Hillary – 219 donors giving $30,792

    Obama – 3,921 donors giving $278,954

    Now, the figures are just a drop in the bucket to what both candidate have raised, but still the discrepancy between the is staggering.

  • Can we re-run that hard-hitting, negative ad on Obama one more time? I want you to see it so you get an idea of what a hit job it is on Obama, just to give you an idea of how noble McCain is to call for it to be removed from the air. Once you see the things it says about Obama, you’ll see why only someone who wants to change the tone of Washington would ask for it to be pulled, even though it would be devastating to Obama if people saw it. Roll the tape.

    What a hero, I tell ya.

  • The trouble with Obama supporters

    1) Your in college?

    2) You think he’ is a Rock Star?

    3) Your black?

    4) You have to much education?

    Thats all that is possible for voting for him. Yes he states he is against the WAR but can he just bring all the troops home? He says he is against lobbist so why does he take their money?

  • Uhm, Bill…it’s YOU’RE, not your.

    No wonder you hate people with a 4th grade education. You couldn’t hack it.

    It would be amusing…but it’s not. You’re an embarrassment to yourself.

  • she will stay in the race till the convention, or until her friends prevail upon her…
    EVEN THO she must win every primary from here on out by 75%-25% in order to stop his nomination
    she will stay in the race till the convention, or until her friends prevail upon her…
    EVEN THO he has won every demographic except retired white women
    she will stay in the race till the convention, or until her friends prevail upon her…
    EVEN THO her negative perception among the voters climbs weekly
    she will stay in the race till the convention, or until her friends prevail upon her…
    EVEN THO she wins PA, Ohio, and TX by margins attributable to the GOP folk that heeded Rush’s call to throw the vote in her direction…GOPers who will not vote for her in November
    she will stay in the race till the convention, or until her friends prevail upon her…
    EVEN THO (or maybe because) she is trying hard to turn Obama into damaged goods, assuring a GOP victory in November

  • Ms Joanne,

    When you ever want to conversate I would be ready.

    You didn’t answer one of my questions.

    Actually I am a retired CPA, graduated from SU in 1980

  • Comeback Bill, read the commenting policies of this site or don’t come back. Annoying people with your stupid comments and obvious ignorance day after day is one thing but your #53 is way over the line.

  • Speaking of stupid (ha!) I meant to reference comment 50 not 53. Apologies to joe in oklahoma.

  • When you ever want to conversate I would be ready.[…] Actually I am a retired CPA, graduated from SU in 1980 — Cumback Bill, @54

    Don’t now what “SU” mite be… Soviet Union? A Sports-Utility Vehicle missing a weel? Watever… Good too now yu spent some (surely not fore?) ears in collej but to bad they didn’t teach Inglish their. If yu new Inglish, we cood conversate.

    It’s no wonder you are “retired” less than 30 yrs after graduating from whatever school you claim to have attended; I wouldn’t want you anywhere near my tax forms, either.

  • #34 — the site, which was not affiliated with Obama, stated a goal of $1 million to pull a Ron Paul, but only managed to raise about $250,000, far short of its goal.

    Clinton has raised $10 million, according to news reports late today. Unsurprising, since whoever seems to be leading tends to attract more money.

    Those of you who think misogyny is funny and OK when it is aimed at someone you don’t like probably think it is OK to make racist jokes about a black person as long as he is someone you think deserves it. That’s called situational ethics, another way of saying you have no ethics at all.

    Our party stands against racism AND sexism, except for you Obama supporters who stand by yourselves on this one.

    How juvenile is it to call anyone who doesn’t support Obama a Republican?

    Have things gotten to the point where Obama supporters will say and do anything if it is in service of their candidate? Personally, I believe a lot of what is being said on behalf of Obama and against Clinton supporters is just an exercise in hostility — people taking out the frustrations of the day on others here, because none of us seem real in cyberspace. Sort of like the flame wars that break out over trivialities, like YOUR vs YOU’RE above.

  • beep52 way back at #9: right on, man. Hillary and McSame are the establishment candidates; Obama is the (relative) outsider. Obama is a threat to the Washington insiders’ very way of life – sucking the life out of the poor & middle class for their own enrichment.

    This is what I love about Obama’s message – we the people can take back our country. It won’t be easy, but it can be done. Most people are fed up with business as usual.

  • I hope Hillary will use her new donations (whatever they are) to pay off her debts to all of the small businesses (ie not Mark Penn) that have done work for her campaign that haven’t been paid thus far. You can’t claim to be for working Americans when you don’t pay your bills (yet are apparently worth over $100 million).

    Mary #59: When Clinton sells her soul in order to suck up to her new “redemptive” BFF Scaife, while Scaife, thru his company Newsmax is blasting Obama, then she might as well be a Republican. That is NOT trivial. And it’s not OK for a Democrat to do to another Democrat.

  • How juvenile is it to call anyone who doesn’t support Obama a Republican?

    When they insist — as you have repeatedly — that they won’t stand by Obama if he’s the Democratic nominee, well, it doesn’t make much sense to call them Demopcrats, now does it?

  • Mary, Your v. You’re is not trivial when you are stating that you do not have an appreciation for education. It is pointing out something so obvious that one would think even you might get it. Apparently, you can’t see through your hatred to understand – which is as per usual with you.

    And if you’re a dem, you are a DINO…but I still think you’re a gooper.

    Don’t like it? Tough shit. Read your own words.

  • Those of you who think misogyny is funny and OK when it is aimed at someone you don’t like probably think it is OK to make racist jokes about a black person as long as he is someone you think deserves it. That’s called situational ethics, another way of saying you have no ethics at all.

    “Probably think it’s OK?” This is your answer to the person above who asked you to back up your claim that there was racism on that cover? Do you have no intellectual integrity at all? If you were a freshman trying that argument, you’d be flunked.

    One only needs to quickly peruse your posts to find myriad examples of you “situationally” excusing Clinton–except that the “situation” might be described unilaterally as “has uterus, will be excused.” Truly, she could eat a kitten on the Senate floor and you’d find some way to justify it because your only goal is to get a woman into the White House and you are willing to drop to the deepest levels of dishonesty to do it. You simply have no ethical barometer about her or anything else in this race.

    Our party stands against racism AND sexism, except for you Obama supporters who stand by yourselves on this one.

    It won’t take long for anyone reading these threads to find numerous examples of posters here decrying sexism. I’ve done it many times myself. You on the other hand, have treated us to a cavalcade of “I See Black People! Everywhere!” racially questionable remarks; not only do you not stand against racism, but you’re openly hostile to the idea that it exists where black people are concerned.

    My personal favorite was when you said Obama “evaded debt” on his student loans because he might have felt it was okay being an “‘oppressed’ minority.” Leaving aside your baseless smear of his having avoided debt simply by complying with the terms of the loan (and you still haven’t apologized for that; did you learn nothing from my teaching you how to gracefully retract an erroneous remark?), you brought up his race completely apropos of nothing as part of your ongoing obsession with his non-whiteness. Then, your quotation marks around “oppressed” were, of course, a way of questioning that minorities actually experience any sort of oppression.

    Honey, that’s some beautiful race-baiting. I hope you don’t teach students of color, because your prejudices are tangible. I suspect your grading of women vs. black students would make for some interesting viewing.

    If someone here had wrongly said Clinton committed a crime and she probably excused it due to her “oppressed” gender, everyone would have heard you squawking at the Nevada border. Your sense of right and wrong is less developed than a three-year-old’s or a sociopath’s. It makes fascinating reading.

  • I hope you don’t teach students of …

    If this is what our education has become, we are beyond doomed to fail. A teacher who can’t put forth a coherent argument or understand the underlying thought to the words presented; who doesn’t understand that dismissing education (or those attempting to achieve) and then using inaccurate words (I didn’t even mention the contraction problem) and says it is a trivial flame war…if that is a teacher, I will gladly and with vigor eat my hat.

  • I didn’t say the cover was racist. I said that sexism should be taken as seriously as racism. I said that because you Obama supporters supposedly consider racism bad and should feel the same way about sexism, but obviously do not.

    It is not racism to refer to a person’s race, especially when that person has made a point of bringing his own race into this election. As Obama himself said, there is no discussion about race in this country and you are showing us why that is — anyone who talks about it is immediately called a racist. It is racism to attribute negative traits to a person on the basis of his or her race, to treat that person only as a member of a group and not consider his individuality. It is not racism to attribute to Obama the beliefs of his longtime family friend and pastor, Wright, especially when Obama has refused to separate himself from Wright. It is not racism to attribute racial attitudes to Obama that are consistent with his own expressed views. It is not racism to ask whether being a member of a racial minority might have affected Obama’s behavior, especially when he has talked about that impact himself, repeatedly. It is not racism to talk about how playing the “race card” has helped Obama’s campaign, something Obamabots refuse to acknowledge while simultaneously calling Clinton supporters white bigots.

    Spelling flames are against netiquette. They show how low you are willing to stoop to attack someone who disagrees with you.

  • It is not racism to refer to a person’s race, especially when that person has made a point of bringing his own race into this election.

    That’s correct. It is, however, most definitely racism to bring someone’s race into a discussion that has absolutely nothing to do with race–and then claim that that someone is probably committing a crime or deep ethical breach because of his race. This is what you did in the student loan discussion; it speaks volumes about your own hostile obsession with others’ blackness…and how you likely treat your black students.

    You know this. You’re not dumb; you’re just utterly without morality in your fervor for your chosen cause, in your willingness to use any means to your end. It would, however, be better to be dumb than to have reached your level of complete ethical corruption.

  • The only thing on TNR I could POSSIBLY see that was a “cheap shot” was the ferklempt bubble.
    But as much as we’ve teased numerous male Republican Senators who’ve gotten ferklempt when talking about how much they love their country so they want the 4th amendment currently protected by FISA crushed, I’m not buying it.

    It’s a bit sophomoric in presentation, but I’m not seeing much in the way of foul play.

  • Obama is not a victim of oppression. He is a member of a minority group that has historically experienced oppression, some of whose members are currently oppressed, but others not. The extent to which he personally has experienced oppression deserves quote marks because he himself was born into the middle class, attended prep schools and elite universities and has since been a member of a relatively high paying profession. If that’s oppression, then we should all be so oppressed. He grew up in one of the most racially diverse areas of the country, a place more intolerant of whites than anyone of color (with a special derogatory name for them). All of that led to an understandable confusion about how he was to take up the mantle of oppression as a black man. So, he identified himself with liberation theology and Afrocentrism to shore up his tenuous sense of being truly African American. Read his biography.

    No one can argue historical oppression, but there is enough about Obama to dislike without reference to his race. One can dislike his failure to address the problem of HIV in the African American community, by embracing the homophobia that pretends homosexuality doesn’t exist among black men. One can dislike his failure to understand how NCLB has damaged education, including and even especially education of minority children. One can dislike his parrotting of Republican talking points about social security, a benefit more important to low income elderly than to the more affluent. One can dislike his arrogance, his lack of respect for more experienced politicians (such as Edwards and those whose speeches he preempted), his belief that two years in national politics is sufficient to qualify him for the top job. One can dislike the way he lets his supporters do the dirty work while pretending to be a “new” kind of politician as they bully caucus goers and break campaign rules and strongarm behind the scenes (NC debate most recently) while claiming that Clinton is the ruthless campaigner.

    Maria and Joanne, you seem to think that if you attack people who hold opposing views to your own, then are winning some sort of debate and your candidate will be victorious. You think I am a Republican in disguise because I said I would vote for Nader instead of Obama? This new claim that McCain will win if Obama is not the nominee, so anyone who supports Clinton must be a Republican is typical of the logic you guys use in any of these discussions. So, when you call me a racist or imply that I have lied about my personal info (posted in answer to requests by other posters), you are just illustrating how low Obama supporters will go to bully those with opposing views here. Calling me a bad teacher cannot hurt my feelings when you have never seen me teach, so why do it? Does it feel good to be mean in the name of your candidate? Is it OK to be ugly to others because they vote differently than you do, but I’m the racist? You have lost the right to talk about tolerance of any kind — it is forfeited by your behavior.

  • Obama is not a victim of oppression.

    Ah, but that isn’t what you said. You referred specifically to Obama’s “‘oppressed’ minority group,” which indisputably connotes your challenge of whether minorities in general, or blacks in particular, are oppressed. The rest of your first two paragraphs are just an attempt to throw sand in the umpire’s eyes–to move the goalposts away from getting busted for blatant race-baiting.

    As for your third paragraph, a festival of incoherent whining, get this through your befuddled-with-fantasies-of-victimhood head: You are mocked, ridiculed, chastised, despised, and constantly corrected here and all over the progressives blogosphere because of your own behavior. Other Clinton supporters don’t even defend you–several have told me how much you embarrass them. It isn’t the circumstance of who you are but of what you do that inspires such contempt in your readers. You receive no respect because, with your history of continuous dishonesty, desperate spinning, shameless prejudice, lack of intellectual integrity and moral depravity, you just don’t deserve any. Wailing about people being “mean” to you or “bullying” you by holding you accountable for your words simply demonstrates that you expect a deference and a tolerance that your outrageous conduct doesn’t warrant. That kind of reminds us of someone else who lacks accountability or performance but nonetheless feels entitled.

    You’re always telling us how strong and resilient Clinton is. Aren’t you ashamed that you run and hide behind a false scrim of victimhood when you can’t defend your own remarks? You do the verbal crimes, so suck it up and do the time. Grow up and act like a woman, not a sniveling seventh-grader who’s been caught lying too many times and thinks she can get out of it by crying “Meanies!”

  • I just read more of the commentary and felt compelled to spew.

    I’m more than a little tired of every Clinton detractor being accused of sexism. The accusation itself is an attack designed to intimidate. I am uncowed.
    I live in Maryland where my Congresswoman, two of three state delegates, my state senator and one of my U.S. Senators is female.

    I voted for all of them.

    Hilary Clinton is a woman who is NOT getting my vote because she is NOT an impressive stateswoman and I’d sooner vote for any of the women I just listed because they are more ethical and have a better sense of logic and organization. They have a greater ability to forge alliances needed to accomplish and execute law.

    I thoroughly dislike Hilary Clinton for many reasons. Neither I nor the sizable number of my friends (many women themselves) that agree with me, hold her sex against her.

    Claiming sexism is a comfortable crutch to lean on for those enamored with the idea of a first woman president regardless of how unsuitable she may be, but for the sake of the next credible female presidential candidate, you may need to re-examine this way of thinking so you don’t delude yourself that America was too sexist to elect a woman. You will inappropriately assume that NO woman has a chance simply because this specific, flawed woman was rejected.

  • toowearyforoutrage.
    I am with you, I am tired of being called sexist because I won’t vote for the campaign that went on Rush and praises Fox News and makes up complete fabrications.

    It’s a two sided coin, maybe all of you Hillary worshipers are racists. Right, and being a former HRC supporter I resent, more then you probably understand, being called a sexist because I haven’t fallen in line with the person you deem worthy of my support.

    I regret sending her money earlier this year and I regret her supporters sinking to the level of calling other democrats sexists. Trust me, if we operating at that level, I doubt we would find Obama a satisfactory option. So please HRC backers, save yourself the embarrassment by blaming us and take a look at what you candidate has done to lose a great deal of her support.

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