Voters far more concerned with Bush than Jeremiah Wright

It’s painfully obvious that major media outlets really want Americans to care deeply about the former pastor that Barack Obama has already denounced, and to a large extent, the coverage has convinced a lot of voters that the Obama-Wright association matters.

But for most Americans, there’s another association that matters a lot more.

Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could hurt his presidential hopes. So could his comment about “bitter” small-town America clinging to guns and religion. And Americans might question Sen. Hillary Clinton’s honesty and trustworthiness.

But according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the bigger problem appears to be John McCain’s ties to President Bush.

In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

By way of comparison, the 43% of voters concerned about McCain and Bush is quite a bit more than the number concerned with Clinton’s policy reversals (36%), Obama’s “bitter” remarks (34%), and Obama’s ties to Wright and William Ayers (32%).

In other words, media coverage notwithstanding, Americans are 11 points more concerned with McCain’s ties to Bush than with controversial figures in Obama’s life. And yet, the latter dominates the political discourse, while the prior is treated as an afterthought, when it’s mentioned at all.

Indeed, while the Democratic race seems to be the only topic of discussion, and various controversies surrounding the two remaining Dems gets all kinds of play, it’s Republicans who are tanking when it comes to public approval.

The Wall Street Journal noted this morning, “Only 27% of voters have positive views of the Republican Party, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, the lowest level for either party in the survey’s nearly two-decade history.” In contrast, by a 44% to 32% margin, Americans hold positive feelings toward the Democratic Party.

Asked which party should control the White House next January, Dems enjoy a huge 18-point margin (51% to 33%). As for Congress, “By a 15-point margin, 49% to 34%, voters say they want Democrats to keep control of Congress. Swing voters — the one-third of the electorate that will decide the elections — are even more hostile toward the Republican Party than voters overall, and identify by more than 2-to-1 with Democrats.”

And then, there’s the unfortunate news.

[John McCain is] in a statistical dead-heat against either Democrat in the poll. Sen. Obama, the Democratic front-runner, leads Sen. McCain 46% to 43%, and Sen. Clinton has a 45% to 44% edge over the Republican. A big reason for the closeness: More voters said they could identify with Sen. McCain’s “background” and “values” than with those of either of the Democratic contenders.

Voters don’t like McCain’s party, or his ideas, or where he wants to take the country, or his close associations with the least popular president in modern political history (Bush’s job approval is down to 27%), but they seem to think McCain’s a good guy. As the NBC/WSJ pollster put it, “What is driving [McCain’s] image … is values. It is faith, honor, country, patriotism.”

The WSJ report added, however, that “McCain’s appeal could fade” as the campaign progresses. That’s obviously true, and in fact, the poll results lead me to wonder about McCain having peaked. Stu Rothenberg recently suggested, “For McCain, this could be as good as it’s going to get.”

Voters like McCain on a personal level right now, and they’re not hearing a single negative thing about him. Voters aren’t sure about Clinton and Obama on a personal level, and they’re hearing plenty of negative things about them.

And yet, in a November match-up, they’re about tied. As the general-election phase begins (eventually), and voters hear quite a bit more about what McCain actually believes, there’s ample reason to believe he has nowhere to go but down.

In a perfect world this would be so. Bush’s policies have caused irreparable damage to the country Wright’s words are just that words. Obama has denounced Wright and his tirades Insane McCain vows to continue the disaster of the last 7 1/2 years

  • And yet the media can’t stop reassuring itself in front of us that Jeremiah Wright is a 24/7 topic only because viewers/readers demand it.

  • Is it me, or does this piece lack any link to the actual poll referenced?

    Whenever I hear results like: “voters said they could identify with Sen. McCain’s ‘background’ and ‘values,'” I wonder if the question contained s short list of options from which to choose. I think that this was a major factor in the hullabaloo concerning the mythical “values voters.” Since there was no option for “I voted for the candidate who was as homophobic as I am,” it got interpreted as “values.”

  • The more the media focuses on the 100 years comment, stressing that he only wants to stay because it will be peaceful, the more people will see this as a continuation of the rosy outlook that Bush keeps talking about. I do think this will wear him down. And I suspect the more people think about it, the more they really don’t care about what he “meant”. The fact is he would only be president for 4 or 8 years, and that’s the part they are concerned about.

  • and voters hear quite a bit more about what McCain actually believes

    You’re making a huge assumption right there.

  • On the other shoe, you have NBC’s sibling, msnbc.com, touting a new NYT Poll and claiming the Dems are in trouble. I think the headlines are little out of line compared to the reported results, but there is one key lesson that party leaders really need to heed, regardless of who they support:

    Democrats see no early end to the Obama-Clinton battle, the poll found. About 7 in 10 Democratic voters predict that their party’s nominee will not be decided before the convention in August. And a plurality of voters say this will eventually hurt their party’s chances against Mr. McCain. . . . Still, there is resistance to the idea of party leaders stepping in to resolve the fight. Even among Democrats who said a lengthy battle would hurt the party, a majority said the contest should continue until one candidate clearly wins the delegate count.

    That is a problematic set of results: the race will go to August, it will hurt the party, and yet voters don’t want it to end without a clear winner in the delegate counts (and I very much read into that an implication that superdelegates at the convention wont please them).

    Alas, the polled Democrats are not into the details or they would know that it is all but impossible for either candidate to reach 2025 without “party leaders” – i.e. Superdelegates – “stepping in.”

    It seems to me, then, that the only way to solve this problem in a way that does not upset the masses is that the Superdelegates all need to move to a candidate of their choosing – preferably not in an ostentatious block that looks like party leaders meddling – before the last primary or two. That would allow actual voting states an opportunity to put someone over the 2025. If the Supers wait until after states are done, the masses will never have their “clear delegate winner” without the “party leaders stepping in.”

    Wonder if any of the Supers are paying any attention. And even if they are if any of them have any spines?

  • Whenever I hear results like: “voters said they could identify with Sen. McCain’s ‘background’ and ‘values,’” I wonder if the question contained s short list of options from which to choose.

    In the NBC/WSJ poll, there was just that kind of list — see pages 3 and 4 0f the poll results PDF — but that seems to have come only after a general question about “background” and “values.”

  • I agree that once Democrats unite around a nominee, John McCentury’s numbers will start to decline towards the generic Democratic-Republican’t poll results.

  • More voters said they could identify with Sen. McCain’s “background” and “values” than with those of either of the Democratic contenders.

    Because he’s the same white male moron they’ve been used to for most of the past 30 years.

  • I think the super delegates are waiting untill all of the primaries have been completed before making a move enmasse. Its proactive damage control. If there was a big move now the Clinton campaign would go nuts. They would be screaming that the party has pulled the rug out from under the voters, the system has been defiled… Waiting untill June 3 leaves Clinton no options. she’ll have lost. I still think she’ll try to run as an independant, though.

    The Democrats can’t really do much against John McCain until this freak show is wrapped. Its especially difficult with Hillary Clinton siding with McCain, bashing Obama on Fox News, etc. She’s holding the party hostage to the Republicans’ agenda.

    I would like to believe the Democrats could turn their attention to John McCain as soon as the nomination has been set, but my fear is that the Clintons will become even more relentless and vicious once that happens.

  • More voters said they could identify with Sen. McCain’s “background” and “values” than with those of either of the Democratic contenders.

    Because they want to leave their spouse who stood by them through hardship for a rich, younger concubine and ride their family’s money flip-flopping and pandering all the way to the top.

    Obama has integrity. Which is why most of America can’t identify with them.

  • Once you’ve actually seen and heard a lot of McCain then you’ve seen and heard enough of McCain. If he ever had to talk alongside anyone who disagreed with him he turns into an asshole before your very eyes. He’s a very wealthy elitist, flying around in his wife’s jet, staying and eating at only the most expensive restaurants and resorts. He’s so far removed from the middle class voter and each time he opens his mouth his smug authoritarianism spews out and he shows himself to be ignorant on the issues. His whole attitude is “I’ll just tell the problems to go away…to stop the bullshit”. Brilliant huh? So far he’s just been ignored but that will soon change. This race is not even close.

  • joey, you just described Shrub. Who was elected president of the USA. TWICE. Because the collective wisdom of the electorate decided he was a folksy chap. Well, that and a little help from the Supremes and Diebold.

  • Congressman Ron Paul is our Lord-Creator’s warning to us (Americans). The United States of America will come to it’s end if we don’t heed Dr Paul’s advice.
    Since the republican voters didn’t choose Dr Paul as their choice for president; then, we must pick one the 3 leading contenders.

    But who among the remaing candidates will save us from self destruction?

    Sen Clinton is a habitual liar. She will do and say anything to become president.
    She is offering the same as what we have now, repackaged to fool the ignorant.

    Sen Obama is new to the game of politricks, so there is a chance he can be convinced to accept Dr Paul’s vision. He has inspired many people who never participated in politics before or who gave up on it years ago. The spirit of revolution (change) is strong among his supporters.

    Sen McCain is ego tripping just like Hillary Clinton. He just want to be president for the sake of being president. He will go where-ever the wind blows him. He doesn’t stand for anything. Just like Sen Clinton, he will do whatever it takes to become President of the U.S.A.

  • The spirit of revolution (change) is strong among his supporters

    Why is it that when I read that from Brnman, I heard the voice of Darth Vader saying “the force is strong in that one”?

  • Sen Obama is new to the game of politricks, so there is a chance he can be convinced to accept Dr Paul’s vision. -Brnman

    He’s not that new or that fraking stupid.

  • In three months Bush and his henchmen will look back on this day with fondness. “Hey, remember when George’s disapproval rating was only 70%? Man, those were the good ol’ days.” Bush and his gang of criminal misfits still have PLENTY of time to drive that disapproval rating higher. One word: Iran.

  • DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!

    It’s time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

    Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.

    But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

    Hillary Clinton say’s that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

    Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton’s have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

    If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

    Sen. Hillary Clinton: “You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it’s also clear that we’ve got nine more important contests to go.”

    Sincerely

    Jacksmith… Working Class 🙂

  • MY FELLOW “BITTER”, STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE 🙂

    If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of “BITTER”!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. 🙁

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose 😉 husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose 😉 husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose 😉 husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose 😉 husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

    You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. 🙂

    Best regards

    jacksmith… Working Class 🙂

    p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! 🙂

    If you don’t know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering…

    You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. 🙂

    Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on…

    OBAMA AIDE: “WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS” 😮

    DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!…

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