Clinton targets OPEC, vows to break up ‘monopoly’

I’m going to assume that the focus groups put oil prices at the very top of voters’ priority lists. Energy policy has gone from something of an afterthought — remember when Iraq dominated the Democratic race? — to the singular focus of the Clinton campaign.

Clinton’s attacks on oil prices as artificially inflated, Enron-style, keep escalating, and [Monday] she appeared to threaten to break up the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

“We’re going to go right at OPEC,” she said. “They can no longer be a cartel, a monopoly that get together once every couple of months in some conference room in some plush place in the world, they decide how much oil they’re going to produce and what price they’re going to put it at,” she told a crowd at a firehouse in Merrillville, IN.

“That’s not a market. That’s a monopoly,” she said, saying she’d use anti-trust law and the World Trade Organization to take on OPEC.

There is a bill pending in Congress that would “make oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal,” and the Obama campaign was quick to point out that Clinton has not signed on as a co-sponsor. She did, however, vote for a version of the legislation last year.

All of this, of course, dovetails nicely on the debate over the Clinton/McCain proposal for a “gas-tax holiday” over the summer. It shows Clinton identifying a major concern on the part of voters, and offering concrete ideas to address those concerns.

But like temporarily waiving the federal gas tax, there’s a disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality.

Josh Marshall’s response sounds about right.

What is Hillary talking about? She’s going to break up the OPEC oil cartel? Because we have such a strong hand to play now with the OPEC member states? And isn’t the main issue here a matter of rising demand, principally for rapidly expanding economies in Asia, not monopoly pricing?

Hillary is certainly not the first candidate to bash the oil producing states or oil companies around election time. And the polls seem to show it’s working for her. But I’m concerned about the widening gap between reality and her campaign trail statements. First with the pledge to obliterate Iran if they attack Israel, then the rebellion against economists and now this.

Where are we going here?

Well, that’s a good question. Clinton’s pitch yesterday probably sounds pretty good — she’s going to get tough with those Middle Eastern countries that export all the oil we want, and break up their monopoly. For low-information voters, this might even move a few votes in Clinton’s direction.

But it’s the follow-up where Clinton runs into trouble. First, the U.S., no matter who’s president, simply isn’t in a position to dictate that OPEC “no longer be a cartel.” I’m not exactly enthralled with OPEC, either, but we don’t have the ability to just break up this monopoly.

Second, OPEC’s structural flaws notwithstanding, the rising price of gas isn’t exactly OPEC’s fault. As Yglesias explained, “It’s just not the case that the current price escalation is driven by OPEC-induced supply restrictions — all indications are that everyone’s producing as much oil as they possibly can. After all, with prices this high how could you afford not to pump as much oil as you could? It’s just that demand for oil is high and rising, so the price goes up.”

I would assume that Clinton knows this, which is why it’s disappointing to hear her suggest “going to go right at OPEC” might help consumers at the pump. It won’t.

And third, all of this gave Obama yet another opportunity to characterize Clinton as a candidate who’ll say anything to win: “You say you’ve been in the White House for eight years, you’ve had two terms as U.S. Senator and haven’t said a word about OPEC and now suddenly you’re gonna take it right to OPEC…. That’s not being straight with the American people.”

We’ll see soon enough just how many voters are buying into the rhetoric anyway.

Post Script: I’d just add, by the way, that I find it so much more enjoyable to blog about energy policy than flag pins, haircuts, and cackles. I think Clinton’s wrong on this, but it’s not about her personality or style, it’s about substance. Wouldn’t the campaign be fun if it were always like this?

More lies from shillary – she does not control the International community and she knows it. Unless she is going to initiate a global holocaust, she cannot make people sell us there oil.

Besides, its the oil companies and chimpy’s illegal war in Iraq that caused the current crisis in the first place – shillary supported this every step of the way.

No bush-clinton-bush-clinton junta – the criminal cabal behind this need to be voted out of office. THAT WON’T HAPPEN IF WE ELECT SHILLARY!

  • Breaking OPEC is a neocon goal and part of the reason why the Iraq war happened. As we’ve seen the past 5 years how that’s worked out especially with $120+ bucks for a barrel of oil.

    Yeah Hilsbot! Way to show everyone your inner Lieberman.

    Why doesn’t Hils just merge with McCain now? They’re pretty much there. I’ve already got their slogan.

    McCain/Clinton or Clinton/McCain: Same Bullshit Different Name.

  • Isn’t this a lot like the drug problem? Instead of helping drug users overcome their addictions, which would reduce the demand, we bludgeon countries who produce only what many Americans want above all else. I believe that most countries grow poppies and coca not for their own use, but only to feed our habits. We’ve created their economic bases.

    Haven’t our brilliant leaders yet figured out the concept of supply and demand?

    P.S. Your p.s. is spot on.

  • Hillary is sounding more and more like a desperate, vote-pandering “I’ll say anything” conservative. What’s next? “Read my lips, no new taxes?” A “Whip Inflation Now” button?

  • First with the pledge to obliterate Iran if they attack Israel

    “Their use of nuclear weapons against Israel would provoke a nuclear response from the United States.” Mary, click HERE for the transcript.

    We’re going to go right at OPEC Hillary now.
    I would work with our friends in OPEC to convince them to open up the spigot, to increase the supply. Use the capital that my administration will earn, with the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, and convince them to open up the spigot. Bush 2000.

  • Georgette

    Indeed. A far better solution to the “OPEC problem” would be for the US to seek alternative energy sources and continually reduce its need for OPEC oil. Break the monopoly of American energy/oil companies on the production and supply of energy to consumers, and open the field to everybody who has processes or products that can help. There are large numbers of people who think outside that enormous “oil box” who have been working on alternative ways of “powering” consumer energy needs.

  • Hillary is sounding more like Bush and a continuation of his moronic policies every time she opens her mouth. She lives in a fairytale world and is totally out of touch with reality. Guess if we want OPEC oil we can just go in and ” OBLITERATE” the entire Middle East. You’d have to be nuts to vote for her. She’s more dangerous than senile old McCain who wants to throw us back into a Cold War with Russia.

  • The comedy continues.
    The clown unhinges.
    Hillary should grab a steel chair, put on a tutu, and challenge Hulk OPEC to a rage in the cage.

    She has become America’s favorite trailer trash clown:
    Daubs of pasty make-up, costume jewelry…
    And a brass-knuckle moxie that promises to knee-cap the Arab world.

    What’s next? Is she going to challenge Fidel to an arm wrestling?
    How about mud-wrestling Hugo?

    This isn’t a policy discussion it is a freak show.
    It’s like watching a horse with two broken ankles charge headlong at a oncoming train.

    Meanwhile back at the old folks ranch…
    A pie-eyed Bill slurs about how great match it would be…
    If only the two great Americans: Queen Hillary and St. John were the standard bearers.

    Jesus…
    How did the USA get so stupid… so fast?

  • What I never liked about the Clintons they always played to people’s fears. Here’s an example. Instead of shedding light to low information on the underlying problems, she talks about Opec and Middle Eastern countries which has racist undertones. This is so cynical but it works.

  • Made up enemies and scapegoats are just more from the republican playbook. No grounding in reality, but guaranteed to get the masses shaking their fists in the air and rallying ’round the flag. Not exactly the loyal opposition I had in mind.

  • I’ve made this particular issue the focus of most of my irrational rants to friends, family and occasional strangers on the street.

    There’s no explanation for current oil prices other than sheer, facilitated greed. Anyway you cut it, the whole thing is a sham. The demand equation only explains prices in the neighborhood of $70 per barrel. The next $50 is all speculation, dollar devaluation and price manipulation. For God’s sake, when Benazir Bhutto was killed, spot oil prices skyrocketed. Why? Because the vast oil fields of Pakistan were suddenly at risk? It’s all bullshit.

    And let’s not leave the auto producers off the hook. Why exactly is it so fucking hard to buy a hybrid vehicle? I went to the Toyota dealership to look at one and was told there was no negotiating the 15% mark-up on the dealer invoice because they were only given three Hybrid Highlanders a month and if I wasn’t going to order one, someone else sure would. If we’re in such an energy crunch and demand for hybrids is so high, why aren’t the auto manufacturers producing more to meet that demand? Well, perhaps it’s because if they had enough hybrids on the market, they couldn’t mark them up 15% and still sell them.

    It’s a scam from soup to nuts.

    As for the ultimate scammer, HilLIARy, what else is there to say. If someone told her killing baby seals would secure her the blue collar vote she’d be on an iceberg with her beholden press corps beating their cute, fuzzy little heads with a spiked cudgel and that grotesque smile on face.

    Break up OPEC? Right. Gas tax holiday? uh-hunh.

    At least Chimpy gave me a tax rebate in four figures.

  • Were Hillary getting to the roots of our own home grown demand problem she would improve her credibility 100%. Were she to say that we need to revise the last CAFE standards reform and shoot for 50 mpg instead of the very weak combination of standards and loopholes which were recently passed we might have a real fighting chance to put a damper on our dependence on all oil and not just the foreign stuff that politicians almost universally cite as our problem.

    And to add some real weight to her arguments, she could tell us we need to reduce the number of cars on the road, slow the pace of new road building, reduce our dependence on trucking, rebuild the rail lines for passenger travel and freight, cut our dependence on air travel, etc. But she takes the low road, the well worn road of creating an easy enemy to sway the masses with her brand of elitist rule which keeps us on the very predictable road to collapse.

    “God bless the rich.” HRC

  • Part of the reason for the high price of oil is the very weak US dollar. Hillary didn’t even mention the weak dollar in her rant on high oil prices?

    I’m certainly not an international economist, but every day I hear that the price of oil was up one dollar, or down two dollars. Is that the sign of a market controlled by monopolists?

    On the other hand, when the local gas stations all sell gasoline at exactly the same price, and they all raise their prices by exactly ten cents per gallon within one hour of one another, does that look like monopoly pricing to you? It does to me. Who makes the phone call that tells all the gas retailers where to set their prices?

    I think Hillary is going after the wrong villains, but demagogues have used xenophobia to rouse the rabble since the dawn of history.

  • BTW, as someone who does trend analysis for a living, I’ve noticed that as Shillary delves deeper into utter bullshit to strengthen her bid to steal the nomination from Obama, Insane Fake Professor has fallen silent.

    Where are you IFP? Why are you so quiet?

    Please feel free to launch a funny screed at me while avoiding the issues at stake. That way you’ll be just like you candidate of choice!

  • Clinton’s strategy to appeal to people incapable of grasping even slight complexity about economics is probably going to be very effective.

    It’s short sighted and profoundly foolish,. but in teh short term, exactly what you want to do to attain power with which you will fulfill NONE of the promises you made to get the votes.

    It’s smart and repugnant.

    Kinda sums it up, doesn’t it?

  • I’m going to break up OPEC

    BWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! She-Unworthy-of-Naming actually believes she will have the power to outlaw global cartels? With what? Is she going to declare them “irrelevant” and “elitist” and scare them into submission? Is she going to threaten them with “massive retaliatory obliteration?” Will she play the “nuke” card?

    Here’s the scenario, people—She-Unworthy-of-Naming becomes President, and OPEC closes the oil tap on our supply line. Period. End of story. Break out your walking shoes, and learn what it’s like to live a 2-hour-drive from your places of employment—when there’s no friggin’ gas to put in your Hummers.

    Like I said earlier:

    BWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • I’ve noticed that as Shillary delves deeper into utter bullshit to strengthen her bid to steal the nomination from Obama, Insane Fake Professor has fallen silent.

    Well, Clinton’s doing IFP’s work for him/her. Her parody of a candidate is just as spot on as IFPs.

  • Georgette Orwell said:
    Isn’t this a lot like the drug problem? Instead of helping drug users overcome their addictions, which would reduce the demand, we bludgeon countries who produce only what many Americans want above all else.

    One of the few things Bush has said during his presidency that I agreed with is that America is addicted to oil. OPEC, and particularly Saudi Arabia, has been acting like a pusher — selling the U.S. as much as we can use when times are good and dropping the price just enough to keep us from trying to kick our addiction when oil gets too expensive.

    The biggest reason that I supported Bill Richardson at the beginning of the primary season was his energy policy. His goal wasn’t to reduce the use of imported oil — which is a stupid idea, kind of like people from Des Moines deciding they’re only going to buy cans of corn grown in Iowa at the grocery store. Richardson wanted the U.S. to end it’s dependency on all fossil fuels.

    For what it’s worth, here is my four point plan to end America’s dependence on fossil fuels:

    1) Federal subsidies to home buyers and builders to make homes powered by solar and/or wind (whatever works best in the local geography and climate) cost no more than homes powered and heated by fossil fuels. Also subsidies to make electric cars cost the same as conventional cars plus rebates to people who trade cars with internal combustion engines for electric cars.

    2) Federal Legislation (based on national security) that overrides local building codes that prohibit solar or wind powered homes. Also federal waivers against local restrictions on wind or solar farms in any area that already has a visible human presence — i.e. roads, power lines, etc.

    3) Huge increases in federal support for research into increasing the efficiency and output of solar, geothermal, tidal and other energy-producing technologies that don’t use fossil fuels.

    4) Large increases into federal support for pure scientific research. To achieve a completely renewable energy economy, we will need a scientific breakthrough in battery technology where the storage capacity is increased exponentially.

  • SteveT @ 20: 4) Large increases into federal support for pure scientific research.

    Now,there’s a quaint notion. And so twentieth century.

  • Snobbish despisers of the working class, I covered this in the next thread down. As a white person, meaning a person who works for a living, I do not have time to sit here all day and watch the Hillary Derangement Syndrome play out. I have to multitask, juggle and take care of the necessities of life, as women always do and men can rarely be bothered to try.

  • There’s no explanation for current oil prices other than sheer, facilitated greed.

    Not sure what this is supposed to mean – greed on the part of whom? The oil producers? Owners of distribution infrastructure? Or retail customers, who want to continue to buy gasoline for heavily subsidized prices that ignore the many expensive externalities of its production?

    The basic fact about oil is that it is a finite commodity now being produced at something close to 100% of capacity. U.S. customers are paying for it using a currency that has recently seen major declines in value (largely as a result of the administration’s economic malfeasance). Other non-US customers have an ever-increasing level of demand, and even in the U.S. levels of demand are pretty inelastic, since much of our usage is dictated by hard-to-change factors like land use and existing durable goods choices (people can’t just ditch their SUV’s or McMansons way out in the sticks because gas prices went up). And, certainly not least, one of the major middle eastern oil suppliers (Iraq) is in political turmoil due to the idiotic invasion the administration committed and then bungled. All this results in a supply/demand-driven increase in price.

    There’s probably a certain amount of speculation driving the day-to-day fluctuations, but the underlying price trends are from these other factors.

    Oil was, in a lot of ways, a one-time bonanza of cheap, easy energy. Millions of years of biomass compressed into a energy-dense, easily produced and transported form. Well, we burned much of it up over the course of a few decades, and pretty soon it’ll start being scarce. That, and not a vague conspiracy of greedy speculators, is what we’re up against.

    Oh, and Hillary is completely full of it. Amazing I ever took her seriously.

  • With this never ending progression of nonsense, Democrats better hope that Obama wins the nomination.

    Imagine what McCain will do to her in a general election with the media portraying him as the straight talker. Sure that reputation is largely a myth, but compared to Clinton he does look like a straight talker.

    There was a time when I thought that no matter how bad the Democratic nominee was, they would still beat the Republican this year. That might still be true thanks to Bush, but with the Republicans picking their most electable nominee, and with Clinton looking worse and worse, there is now a clear path for the Democrats to manage to blow this election.

  • Federal Legislation (based on national security) that overrides local building codes that prohibit solar or wind powered homes. Also federal waivers against local restrictions on wind or solar farms

    Man the furious NIMBY opposition this would produce would be pretty hilarious to watch. Local zoning boards and neighborhood associations would go nuclear to stop this. Not saying it’s a bad idea, just that you’re poking a very big, nasty, ill-tempered tiger with a stick.

  • You see, Ed (16), I knew IFP would be here soon. He/she lives for those moments when the phalanxes of reason and logic abandon the Clinton campaign.

  • What if Mrs. Clinton isn’t lying about her intent to break-up the OPEC oil cartel? Maybe Mrs. Clinton actually believes she will be elected Emperor of the World and not merely POTUS. Mrs. Clinton has been telling lies so long, she may no longer have the mental capacity to distingusih truth from her fiction.

  • I seem to remember the shrub sayin’ he’d go over and “jawbone” OPEC into lowering gas prices back when he was running for president. Look how well THAT turned out. OK, well it didn’t turn out that great for us, but it sure helped out the bush cartel.

    I see the same thing happening here. They’re not gonna lower prices when demand is so high. After all, it’s the free market right?

  • The Oil Drum links to Hon Rep. Roscoe Bartlett’s Peak Oil Special Order Speech. Well worth checking out what real solutions might look like.

    I wasn’t paying attention at the time, but I thought that I heard that this type of disingenuous appeal to the less educated was crucial to Hon. Sen. Clinton’s win in New York. Isn’t this current foolishness just going back to what’s worked for her in the past?

  • Clinton has a severe case of the ‘same bullshit, different day’ syndrome. Her smoke and mirrors just obfuscates the problem. Her Lo-i-vos will blame whoever she tells them to for high gas prices, and keep driving their pick-up truck, running their AC on full blast, chowing down on individually wrapped burgers and fries.

    Of course, they are all secretly hoping that those ‘elites’ will come up with some sort of alternate fuel so they can persist in gluttony.

    She’ll say anything to win, and if she wins, we all lose.

    Where are you IFP? Why are you so quiet? -Ed

    The need for parody diminishes in proportions to the ridiculousness of the subject of the parody. As Clinton, and by extension Mary become more and more crazy, IFP is left with less material.

  • As Clinton, and by extension Mary become more and more crazy, IFP is left with less material.

    That’s for damned sure. I’m dyin’ here. I can’t compete.

  • Hillary is going to break up OPEC????? What’s she going to do, threaten to pull America out of OPEC and then refuse to buy any more of their oil?? (I know, we aren’t in OPEC, because we are no longer a net producer of oil – that’s my point. She’s being tragic, comic, and frightening, all at the same time.)

    We have absolutely no traction against OPEC in the short term. They are a monopoly, because they constitute the only major producers of the commodity that we want. The only ways we can break their monopoly are long-term fundamental changes:
    1) Invade them and make their resources our property (currently underway, albeit incompetently, in Iraq, and I don’t like the way McCain, Bush, & Hillary talk about Iran) (And how did all our oil end up under their sand anyway? What was God thinking?)
    2) Set up a puppet dictatorship that makes their part of the world safe for us to buy oil (tried in Iran, with short-term success and long-term failure)
    3) Hold a countervailing monopoly on strong currency (that worked for a time, until Bush and the rise of other economies blew it out of the water, but it was always prone to failure).
    4) Do away with our dependence on their resource (conservation & alternate energy sources). (What would it matter if someone still held a monopoly on whale oil?)

    Only alternate energy is reasonable in the long term (with conservation helping in the short to intermediate term), and it must either happen eventually, or our society will fail, at least in its current form.

  • jimBOB said: Hillary is completely full of it. Amazing I ever took her seriously.

    It’s OK, lots of smart people assumed she wasn’t full of crap, but when she got her back up against the wall “she had to do what she had to do”.

    The moral of the story is that you never know what people will do when the chips are down, which is one of the scariest things about peak oil. The whole discussion about forcing OPEC to lower prices is moronic, but a lot of people would rather believe that the AY-rabs are able to save us than that we are about to have a run-in with an historical shift in the way mankind interracts with nature. The smart people are moving towards new paradigms, the stupid people will sit at the gas pump and wail for the their god to fill their gas tanks cheaply once again.

  • I think Insane Fake Professor is a fraud!!

    IFP pretends to be just a fake professor who comments on blogs. If you look closely at IFP’s arguments they turn out to be so close to views later expressed by Clinton and her campaign that I can’t believe it is a coincidence. Either IFP is psychic or is in direct contact with the highest levels of the Clinton campaign.

    Insane Fake Professor must be a Clinton campaign insider who is spreading the campaign’s views in comments without disclosure of the connection. 🙂

  • One thing I found absurd was the inclusion in her attack of OPEC meeting in “plush places,” as if part of the problem is the location of where these people meet. As if we expect them to meet in the Roy Rogers Room at the Best Western in Tulsa. As if Hillary doesn’t herself lead a very plush life.

    I’m not sure how much I ever believed in her Hillary the Wonk incarnation, but Hillary the Faux Populist is simply disgusting.

  • RonChusid,

    Yes, that may be, but let’s all admit it – IFP’s posts not only entertain, they inform the debate, kinda….

    I love you, IFP!

  • More proof of Hillary the world champion bullshitter. “The woman the oil companies fear the most!”

    Andrew Leonard in “How The World Works” at Salon has it right:

    The econoblogosphere is in an uproar following Sen. Hillary Clinton’s comment on “This Week With George Stephanopoulos that “I’m not going to put my lot in with economists.” Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich went so far as to hurtfully invoke the illustrious record of our current president as part of his denunciation.

    “In case you’ve missed it, we now have a president who doesn’t care what most economists think. George W. Bush doesn’t even care what scientists think. He rejects all experts who disagree with his politics. This has led to some extraordinarily stupid policies.”

    Anyone who pays attention to the intersection of politics and economics knows that economists hardly have a stranglehold on any such a thing as absolute truth. They may be united as never before on the subject of the stupidity of the gas tax holiday, but they are certainly not infallible. But her associated slam, “We’ve got to get out of this mind-set where somehow elite opinion is always on the side of doing things that really disadvantage the vast majority of Americans,” reveals another group that Clinton is deciding not to join hands with: peak oilers.

    Hillary Clinton told Stephanopoulos that her support for a gas tax holiday is based on her conviction that the price of oil is a result of oil market manipulation.

    “Now, why am I proposing this? Well, No. 1, I am absolutely convinced that these record profits of the oil companies are a result of a number of factors beyond supply and demand. I think there has been market manipulation. In fact, Exxon Mobil official testifying under oath before the House of Representatives committee said that if it were just market factors, then the price of oil would be like $50 or $55 a barrel.

    “We know that there’s market manipulation going on. So I would launch an investigation if I were president right now by the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission.”

    The question is: Who is doing the manipulation? What the man from Exxon-Mobil was likely referring to is the impact of speculation by hedge funds and other institutional traders upon the price of oil. No one knows how much of the current price is due to traders’ bidding up the price — estimates ranges from 20 percent all the way up to 60 percent. We don’t know because a huge percentage of energy trading is done on unregulated electronic exchanges that don’t have to report big market moves to the government — because of a law, signed by Hillary Clinton’s husband, that exempted those exchanges from close government scrutiny. If Clinton really wants to start cracking down on oil market manipulation, the first place to start is in regulating energy futures trading to the point that the government actually knows what’s going on. In the long run, that would be far more meaningful than a gas tax holiday or even a windfall profits tax.

    Which is not to say a windfall profits tax is necessarily a bad idea: The oil companies are obviously benefiting phenomenally from current high prices; why shouldn’t they share some of the pain everybody else is going through? But in normal circumstances, when the price of oil rises, the likes of Exxon and Chevron and BP do their best to boost production. But the most telling aspect of the current oil market is that they have been unable to do so. As David Strahan, author of “The Last Oil Shock,” wrote in an Op-Ed piece in the Telegraph, the “righteous indignation over the level of profits reported by Shell and BP … entirely misses the point. These issues are trifling compared to global oil depletion.”

    The idea that oil companies are somehow “to blame” for record oil prices and rising fuel costs is seductive but absurd. For all their power and profits, the international oil companies are in fact in trouble. They may still be swimming in cash, but no longer in oil. Despite vast investment in exploration and production, these days they generally fail to replace the oil they produce each year with fresh discoveries, or even to maintain current levels of output. Shell’s oil production has been falling for six years, BP’s seems to have peaked in 2005, and this week even the mighty Exxon was forced to admit its output dropped 10 percent in the first quarter of the year.

    The most charitable way to interpret Hillary Clinton’s position is that she wants to provide Americans with some short-term help while engaging in a long-term plan to address the challenges of “foreign oil dependence.” But the problem with that defense is that any serious long-term plan to address the two great challenges of the 21st century — climate change and the energy crisis — will require that the price Americans pay for energy goes up. There will be pain. The sooner we start biting the bullet the better.

    Perhaps you won’t win a primary battle in Indiana by telling voters that “during my presidency, you can expect to pay more for gasoline than you do now, because that is the only way we can truly break free from our addiction to oil,” just as you weren’t going to win a primary battle in Ohio by lecturing voters on the benefits of free trade. But by blaming “elite opinion” for not being on the side of ordinary Americans, Clinton is dismissing everyone who says the current status quo can’t be sustained, that sacrifices will have to be made, and that the era of cheap oil is over.

  • Tom Cleaver,

    Snap, my brotha. This post nailed it.

    As the hedge funds and other abberations of the free market slowly slide into financial ruin, they’re playing the oil market to save their collective asses from subprime exposure – it’s kind of like Shillary’s latest ploy.

  • I think Clinton’s wrong on this, but it’s not about her personality or style, it’s about substance.

    All due respect Steve, but this isn’t about policy or substance, this is pandering at it’s worst. What exactly is the substance here? There is none, this is about Clinton trying to move a few votes as you said yourself. Really it’s no better than flag pins.

  • Once again, it comes back to judgement.

    Someone with lots of experience should have known that invading a major oil producing state and shutting down its oil fields would push oil prices up.

    And someone with lots of experience should have known it would be more useful to spend a trillion dollars researching alternative energy sources instead of spending it policing someone else’s civil war. It might, for example, enable a breakthrough in photovoltaics. A short-sighted program would at least buy most families a new hybrid car.

    Judgement and responsible choices.

  • Hillary has got to be kidding. It’s only the fact that OPEC is still trading (at least officially) in American dollars that our economy hasn’t completely collapsed. We killed Sadaam Hussein partly to keep him from switching to Euros and taking the rest of the Middle East with him.

    NOW she wants to get rid of OPEC all together? Dear God, why doesn’t take the darn sawbucks and burn them right out of the mint?

    It seems that the only person who knows less about the economy than me and John McCain is Hillary Clinton.

  • A law to make OPEC illegal? Isn’t that completely asinine? What are we going to do, sue a bunch of foreign governments in US courts for managing their natural resources in ways that violate a newly-minted US law?

    Are Clinton, et al, trying to make America the laughingstock of the world?

  • Just one other thing: OPEC is a cartel, not a monoply.

    Shillary’s gang should be forced to retake Econ 101.

  • yeah, remember the last time we took on the oil producing states and we had an embargo? mile long gas lines and rationing ought to go over real well with joe six-pack…..

  • …mile long gas lines and rationing ought to go over real well with joe six-pack… -just bill

    But, but…just think of all the tax they’ll save!

  • Ed, @45,

    The witch knows perfectly well she’s spouting BS; she’s simply counting on her audience not being clued to it. And she may very well be right, for all I know; there’s always a certain percentage of the population who are totally unaware of the old principle that, if something sounds too good to be true, it is. And, if someone is promising you a piece of the moon, you need to be double-leery.

  • We shall see tonight just how gullible and ill-informed the good people of Indiana are. If current polls prove accurate, then Shillary will be able to add one more notch to her belt of shame.

    One other consideration for the Clinton campaign, these issues have a half-life measured in months from utterance to hard, cold reality. Have they even considered that this particular strand of pandering will come back to haunt them very quickly? Or do they not look down the road far enough to realize that if she steals the nomination, the gas-guzzling public will be looking for her to make good on this campaign promise well before Nov. 4?

  • Shillary’s gang should be forced to retake Econ 101.

    Ed, that statement would depend on whether her “gang” took it the first time around. And as for her making good on the promise, she’s already waffling on it, saying that a Bush veto is imminent.

    I wonder—how many of Indiana’s academes will vote for her today, given the “elitist” commentaries from her….

  • There must have been something in the air of Gary ,Indianathat led people into economics: the first Nobel Prize winner, Paul Samuelson was from Gary,Indiana ,as well Joseph Stiglitz -another Nobel Prize winner in Economics.It is inconceivable of Hillary to not have availed her campaign of the Clinton connection to this economist,especially since he was the author of the third way economic theory ,that in great part ,was responsible for much of the prosperity of the “Clinton era ” .Stiglitz was in Bill’s Economic Policy Advisors circle. WHAT A FOOL THIS WOMAN IS. With all the palaver to teachers and students and parents in stump speeches,about the importance of higher education-then to go blow off economic experts as elitist-how does that square with stressing the need for education to get ahead in the world?Does this woman not realize these idiotic inconsistencies will not come back to haunt her? If this is an example of her judgment and foresight,God help us all!

  • On Gas Pains at the Gas Pump.

    Tut, Tut!: These are the same poor Senators who:

    a) Do not allow oil drilling on the Alaskan North Slope
    or in ANWAR (Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge)

    b) Do not allow drilling in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico,
    near Florida

    c) Do not allow drilling off the California coast

    d) Exclude 40% of BLM (Bureau of Land Management) lands
    from oil or gas exploration, while maintaining govt.
    ownership of 60% of the land in the West, 99% in
    Alaska

    e) Do not support or oppose nuclear power

    f) Gutted nuclear fusion R & D

    g) Similar “geniuses” enacted California state law
    forbidding nuclear plant construction in California

    h) All of the above forced and cheered by the
    environmentalist movement.

    As a result of the above (surprise!), we are “short”
    of energy & oil. I am a “dumb rocket engineer”, but
    even I can “forecast”: $150 / barrel in 2 months,
    $200 / barrel in 6 months, $300 in 2 years….

    Here is another “forecast”: in view of the entrenched
    mutually supportive environmentalist, oil & coal
    interests in this country, it will take us at least 5-20
    years to “get our act together” on energy. We have
    failed for the last 30. It will require “retiring” 1/2
    – 2/3 of the current Congress.

    This, in turn, will require that our citizens “get a
    belly full” of ever higher energy & resource prices.

    By the way, a viable “energy infrastructure” is the
    “bedrock” foundation for manufacturing, transportation,
    the economy, and high-paying jobs. All the tap
    dancing with money supply, interest rates and govt.
    guarrantees is just “smoke and mirrors”. Even a “six
    pack beer drinking rocket engineer”, unlike Congressmen
    or Senators, can figure that out.

    So “Good luck” America. Enjoy the show!

    Perhaps they should be called “the Senators from OPEC?”.

    Regards, Art Collins,
    Retired Nuclear & Aerospace (Rocket) Engineer

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