Superdelegates start to make their move?

This morning, George Stephanopoulos said uncommitted superdelegates supporting Barack Obama “will come three, four, five at a time, and this nomination will be locked up.” We’re still a ways from a “locked up” nomination, but there was some movement on the superdelegate front today, and Obama appears to have a net gain of four for the afternoon.

Today, in the wake of the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, the Obama campaign is announcing three new superdelegates: Jerry Meek, chairman of the North Carolina Democratic Party, Jeanette Council, a member of the D.N.C. from North Carolina and Inola Henry, a member of the D.N.C. from California. […]

These endorsements brings the total number of superdelegates to endorse Mr. Obama to 261, according to the campaign’s tally. He is 170 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination.

The news wasn’t all bad for Clinton, though. Rep. Heath Shuler had promised to support whichever candidate won his North Carolina district yesterday. Clinton carried the district easily (a 13-point victory), prompting Shuler to back the New York senator.

While that would give Obama a net gain of two for the day, Jennifer McClellan, a state rep in Virginia and a DNC member, switched today from Clinton to Obama.

Former Sen. George McGovern’s switch was a fairly big deal, but it did not affect the totals because McGovern isn’t a superdelegate.

So, where does that leave us, as of now? NBC has Clinton’s superdelegate lead down to 12.5 (272.5 to 260); the Politico also shows Clinton ahead by 12.5 (269.5 to 257); CNN puts the number at 13 (267 to 254); and the 2008 Democratic Convention Watch has Clinton leading by 14.5 (270.5 to 256).

There are also grumblings on the Hill. No superdelegates have switched, but at least one seems to be eyeing the exit sign.

One of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) congressional backers on Wednesday added to the mounting pressure on the former first lady to consider dropping her bid to become president.

Rep. Dale Kildee (D-Mich.) told The Hill that Clinton should reassess her prospects after losing to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) by 14 points in North Carolina and edging her rival in Indiana in Tuesday’s primaries.

“I urge her to take the day off and think very seriously about doing what’s best for the country and best for the party,” said Kildee.

“I got straight A’s in math,” added Kildee, implying that Obama’s delegate lead would be impossible to overcome in the few primaries left on the Democratic calendar.

The Senate, too.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), one of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) most prominent Senate supporters, said Wednesday that she will ask the former first lady to detail her plans for the rest of the Democratic primary.

“I, as you know, have great fondness and great respect for Sen. Clinton and I’m very loyal to her,” Feinstein said. “Having said that, I’d like to talk with her and [get] her view on the rest of the race and what the strategy is.”

Does anyone know what the deal is with HRC’s “half” delegate? What’s that about? I find it especially confusing since the “half-delegate” seems to be a super-delegate. I could imagine a primary result somehow involving a split delegate (although that too just sounds weird), but how did a superdelegate only “sorta,” half-way endorse HRC?

Anyone know?

  • 269.5 to 257

    I’m sure someone can explain to me how there can half a delegate.

    Is the person short? Or is it Lieberman?

  • The half-delegate, or rather one delegate who receives a half-vote, is for Democrats Abroad.

  • I think that is a Democrat Abroad or something like that, they are superdelegates but they only count as a half.

  • Reader,

    It’s a superdelegate from Americans Abroad, I believe. These are only worth half a point.

    No superdelegates were harmed in the making of these totals.

  • “I urge her to take the day off and think very seriously about doing what’s best for the country and best for the party,” said Kildee.

    A great suggestion really.
    But didn’t Kildee major in economics?
    I don’t believe Hillary believes those folks know what they are talking about.
    Which might explain why she wasn’t keen enough to listen.

    Speaking of those folks…
    Did anybody hear Donna Brazile’ retort to Paul Belaga’s insane comments last night?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LzOTfbpGj1s

    Someone needs to ask Paul “Limbaugh” Belaga where “fags” fit into his election calculus.
    Horrible. Just horrible. Eggheads and blacks? WTF? Hillary dead-end Dems are as bad as Repugs.

  • Paul Begala, not Belaga. You may have been thinking of Beluga caviar–those elitist DLCers, you know. 🙂

    It is pretty funny to watch Donna get her irk on. She is a creature of the Clinton DLC who has left the reservation, and they can’t forgive her for it. Have never been a big fan of hers and still am not, but she sees which direction the Democratic Party is going much more clearly than those trying to recapture the 1990s.

  • HELP

    Send out a SEARCH PARTY!!!!!!!

    Has anyone seen our little shillary shill greg? He’s been missing in action since shillary’s spankin’.

    And the ORIGINAL insane fake professor can only manage a few meager racist posts – do you suppose they are planning on sending better trolls here and that both greg and mary are being reassigned?

    Or perhaps they have moved on to bigger lies on bigger blogs?

    Do you think that the “concern troll” lies about shillary are to patently insane now and that they have assumed new identities on other blogs so that the can promote mclame or perhaps advocate for permanent dictatorship by dur chimpfurher?

  • Does anyone know what the deal is with HRC’s “half” delegate?

    Oh – that one’s easy.

    Only a HALF-BRAIN would support a bush-clinton-bush-clinton junta, so she gets half-delegates.

    Silly rabbit – everyone knows this nation was not founded to be a monarchy by 2 ruling elite families that provide cover for the same criminal cabal.

  • One of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) congressional backers on Wednesday added to the mounting pressure on the former first lady to consider dropping her bid to become president.

    Rep. Dale Kildee (D-Mich.) […]

    The ungrateful wretch! Here she is, fighting for his rights to be seated at the convention and he stabs her in the front. Just like a man…

  • I feel that black superdelegates should not count since they obviously lack the ability to choose a candidate based on qualifications alone, as white people do. Only by backing the first woman candidate can we break through these ugly traditions and free ourselves of the noxious identity politics smothering our party.

  • Superdelegates say, we will decide

    Uncommitted Democratic superdelegates in Congress overwhelmingly say they won’t necessarily back the presidential candidate who wins the most primary delegates. Instead, electability will be very important in their decision.

    Looks like neither candidate will get the required number of delegates to win outright, so I don’t understand why people are calling for Hillary to quit.

  • “Silly rabbit – everyone knows this nation was not founded to be a monarchy by 2 ruling elite families that provide cover for the same criminal cabal.”

    Tell that to the Roosevelts and the Adamses.

  • JRD:
    There are many more — though I might question including the Roosevelts, since TR and FDR were distant cousins. In fact, Stephen Hess compiled a book called AMERICA’S POLITICAL DYNASTIES FROM ADAMS TO KENNEDY.
    (To quote from the ‘alibris’ description:
    “This fascinating study of poltics as a family habit focuses on 16 families: Adams, Lee, Livingston, Washburn, Muhlenberg, Roosevelt, Harrison, Breckinridge, Bayard, Taft, Frelinghuysen, Tucker, Stockton, Long, Lodge, and Kennedy. The appendices list many more families in which three or more persons have been in Congress and other offices.”)

    I had the book at one time and it is a worthwhile reference, though dated. There have been many more since then, including the Kyls — father and mother both longtime Representatives, the son currently — hopefully not for much longer — Senator.

  • I surprised so very voters appear to have fallen for the elimination of the Federal Gas tax for the summer. Often, people’s econpmic interest overrules their head. Go O!

  • Are you kidding me? Us poor, uneducated, huddled masses yearning to breathe free of Republican AND Democratic politics don’t want to have to choose between experience in the real global world and hope! Neither O’Bama, nor Hillary will win without the other. A Hillary/O’Bama ticket – experience + hope w/o politics as usual – THAT will win. If Limbaugh AND Hamas are “endorsing” O’Bama – then O’Bama needs Hillary (and Bill). Hillary needs the young and diverse vote that O’Bama can deliver. DON’T MAKE US CHOOSE MCCAIN!

  • crazybusymom: You sound so pathetic. First of all why would you or me get to select who the nominee choose as a running mate? How can you tell Obama that the only way for him to win is to select Hillary? Why would he want to put himself in more danger by having her as a VP when she shows desperation on a daily basis and will do anything to become the next president? That would be the worst thing he could do. He would somehow die in an airplane crash or comitt suicide, at least that would be the newsreport anyway.

    Secondly, No one has to make you choose McCain, you will do that for yourself. In making that decision, I can say you certainly do not care about anyone other than yourself, just as is demonstrated in Hillary plight for presidency. Millions of American family members are dying everyday in a war that was never suppose to happen. Millions of women will see their freedom to choose go out the window, and new wars will be born to satisfy the ego in McCain.

    So if this is your contribution if Obama doesn’t follow your rules, then be my guest. Cut off your nose to spite your face and then blame yourself each time another solider die, another innocent Iraqi die, and they finally envoke us into Nuclear war.

    Have a nice day and maybe you are just as your name appears: a crazy busy (body) mom.

    Have a beautiful life, but remember this election is about Americans, not about Hillary, Obama, or McCain, it is about our lives and that of our children and grandchildren.

  • 19. crazybusymom said: Are you kidding me? Us poor, uneducated, huddled masses yearning to breathe free of Republican AND Democratic politics don’t want to have to choose between experience in the real global world and hope! Neither O’Bama, nor Hillary will win without the other. A Hillary/O’Bama ticket – experience + hope w/o politics as usual – THAT will win. If Limbaugh AND Hamas are “endorsing” O’Bama – then O’Bama needs Hillary (and Bill). Hillary needs the young and diverse vote that O’Bama can deliver. DON’T MAKE US CHOOSE MCCAIN!

    Please, please, please choose McCain. I want to have as little as possible in common with someone like you.

  • Tuesday’s primaries were very significant with respect to one key question: How much damage has the negative publicity received by Senator Obama in the last couple of months hurt his ability to win the general election? The PA primary results told us that the damage was significant. North Carolina was unlikely to shed any light onto this question as the demographic composition (blacks and students) are unlikely to be concerned about Obama’s relationship with his pastor. Indiana, however, gave even more telling results than PA. Even though the margin of victory it produced for Clinton was small (2 points), it represented a great voter shift toward Clinton, who in mid-February was 15 points behind in the polls. This voter shift shows that the publicity received by Obama, had and will have an important impact on Obama’s electability in the general election. Had this information been made public sooner, Obama would not have won as many primaries as he did. Therefore, his pledged delegate numbers should be discounted.

    This is only one of the arguments pointing to the wisdom of nominating Clinton. Another is that Clinton is the candidate who will maximize the Democrats’ chances to win the general election. She won all the states the Democrats must take in order to win the White House [except Illinois, Obama’s home state]. As the winner of the primaries in the states that matter, Clinton is more likely to win these states in the general election than would be the loser of these primaries, Obama. All the states won by Obama [other than his home state] will likely go to the Republicans. Therefore, the primaries he won are inconsequential for a Democratic victory. Selecting Obama as the nominee would serve to minimize (rather than maximize) the Democrats’ chances to win the White House.

  • Come on now W kerry, the arguement that Hillary won the big states is not valid. rmember that these states that Hillary claims that they reflect electability, are democratic states, and always go democratic in a general election, no matter what democratic candidate run, Because these democrates in those states chose Hillary over Obama, does not mean they will not vote for a democrate. Just because a mom prefers a particular daughter over a son does mean that she will will choose over a stranger when faced with a choice between of her incompetent son and a stranger, off its common wisdom that she is likely to choose her son. it will be very stupid for REAL democrates to vote for McCain in a genaral election just as much as it will be unwise for the mom to pick a stranger over her son…. think outside the box people. If Hillary pulls out a miracle we will back her 100% just as much we will back Obama if he becomes the nominee.

  • When I read comments like W. Kerry’s, I find myself wondering if these people are all disingenuous or if they really do believe that the primary winner of a specific state is the only one who can win that state in the general. If it’s the former, well, the Clintons’ best performance this campaign season has been in the dissemination of marginally plausible bullshit. If it’s the latter, well, ditto. But it really worries me that so many people may be totally unaware of the basics of elections.

  • A half delegate is from a district that has only a few delegates, like the U.S. Virgin islands, where three half delegates were awarded to Barack from voters, and 3 superdelegates voted, one of which was for her.

  • The nominee process is about DELEGATES. Obama has won them, Clinton has lost. Conceding victory is not surrender, it would show class in recognizing the inevitable and a desire to unify the party to take on McCain.

    For Clinton to reject her own pledge and claim that the results of the Stalinesque election in Michigan (only one candidate on the ballot) and Florida (no campaigning) are somehow fair is a slur against American democratic principles. ALL eight of the candidates agreed to the rules as set forth by the DNC. For all her new invented macho image, she should realize that the American people will not tolerate another argument of “what the definition of IS is” or other similar such sophistry cooked up by Harold Ickes and Lanny Davis.

  • All beware we all know why Hillary is hanging in there. She plans on buying the super delagtes, another Million wont her pocket book any. Hope that America realizes this and some how can stop her

  • I can not believe we are having this conversation. Our opinion doesnt matter to this woman…It’s a game to her that she wants to win and doesnt care how she does it.
    Which is typical to old school politics and the Clinton ways…Wake up you delegates and do what the people want for once…
    Also the fact that Obama wasnt on the ballot in Mich is disturbing to me that you want to try to seat the election anyways, I think he might have a chance of taking that state and its not right for you to deny them their votes, let Fl and Mich have a redo or dont count them at all, you can not say who would have taken what states without them even being on the ballot…
    This is a joke…
    If this does go on much further I will give Mccain my vote either way because I think you people determining this are completly losing site of the general election to come and the more waves she makes the less likely you are to get peoples votes at all…I know she has made me a believer in not wanting her anywheres near the white house. BTW, I and my husband are both white middle class working individuals with no college education in upstate New York, Repubilcans by party and we have seen the jobs leave and I donot know how anyone figures she has helped us, she hasnt, not in our area of NY anyhow, for the most part, most of us up here are hoping she loses big, So we can hopefully get her out of our senate..She makes alot of claims she can not back up, do you really want someone like this in our White House, so they can have the same Scandles and Crap like the last Clinton Admin had…
    You delegates need to stop this thing before you lose all the base of the Republican that will back Barrack and trust me, you let her stay in this much longer, she is going to destory whatever popularity he has left. Because We are on the line of not being so sure, not with what she has already done to him, and if you want a chance at all, at winning this general election, you need to stop this now, it has gone on long enough.. I, my husband and quite a few others will gladly vote the other way should you not stop this now…She wouldnt get our vote either way but he still stands a small chance at this point but the longer she stays in this, the less and less likely we are to vote at all..Do it now before she completely destroys the general election…For people with this power, you would think you would have enough common sense to figure this out….Crap rolls down hill, remember this…When you up for reelection…

  • #22 W. Kerry

    What in the world are you talking about? Hillary was always ahead in the polls for Indiana. She wasn’t behind 15 pts and made a huge turn around to win it by 1% (1.4% rounded off is 1%, not 2% as the media would have you believe).

    In an obvious attempt to pick and choose to make your argument, look at the full breath of the results here and tell me she was ever really ahead:

    http://www.pollster.com/08-IN-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

    Not that it really matters since Indiana hasn’t voted Democrat in the general since 1964.

  • A great suggestion really – the fact that Obama wasnt on the ballot in Mich is disturbing to me that you want to try to seat the election anyways.

    I and my husband are both white middle class working individuals (each of us), and I donut know how anyone figures she has helped us,so they can have the same Scandles and Crap like the last Clinton Admin had. I think you people determining this are completly losing site of the general election to come and the waves roll down hill.

    Millions of American family members are tie-dying everyday!

    Wake up you delegates before you do what the people want for once,When you up for reelection, I know she has made me a believer!

  • Hillary was raised in a middle-class family in the middle of a state in the middle of America in the middle of the last century.

    From that classic suburban childhood in Park Ridge, Illinois, Hillary went on to become one of America’s foremost advocates for children and families; an attorney twice voted one of the most unethical in America; a First Lady of Arkansas who helped transform the schools to the state that they are in today; a bona fide war hero; a bestselling “ghosted” author; a First Lady for America who helped transform that role into dishonor, becoming a chump for health care and families at home, and a champion of women’s rights and human rights around the world – except for unborn children, against whom she took her stand.

    Since her wind-breaking election to the United States Senate, Hillary has been a steadfast advocate for middle-class families, working fruitlessly to help create jobs, expand children’s health care and abortion, and prevent Social Security from realization.

    As the Senator representing New York after 9/11, Hillary has fought to strengthen our approach to homeland security and to improve our communications and intelligence operations.

    As the first New Yorker ever named to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Hillary, though she voted for the War, and has stated her desire to wage nuclear war on Iran, has been a tough critic of the administration’s bungling of Iraq and a fierce advocate for proper equipment, health benefits, and treatment for military families.

  • If Kildee had majored in Economics, his district wouldn’t be in the shape it’s in. his solution to everything in the district is to write a federal check.

    He’s a High school Latin teacher – from back when that was a thriving field.

    “On May 7th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, ROTFLMLiberalAO said:
    “I urge her to take the day off and think very seriously about doing what’s best for the country and best for the party,” said Kildee.

    A great suggestion really.
    But didn’t Kildee major in economics?”

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