About that record of ‘working across party lines’…

Marc Ambinder noted that this clip of Fox News personality Juan Williams is making the rounds in “Republican circles.”

For those who can’t watch clips online, the video features Williams, on Fox News, saying, “You think about everything from campaign finance to immigration and on and there’s John McCain working across party lines. Sen. Obama doesn’t have a record. Now he can make the claim and he can hold himself up as pure and trying to reach to a new generation of post-partisan politics, but he has to do so largely based on rhetoric and wishful thinking, because he doesn’t have the record.” He made the comment on the air on Wednesday.

Ambinder added, “You can bet that a big McCain talking point in the fall will be almost exactly as phrased” by Williams. I think that’s true. In fact, I wouldn’t be especially surprised if the McCain campaign simply started airing Williams’ remarks directly in its commercials.

But before the “Republican circles” get too pleased with themselves, it’s probably worth noting a few flaws in this. First, pro-McCain testimonials from Fox News personalities really don’t carry a lot of weight. It’s a bit like members of the National Republican Committee telling people what a great guy McCain is — it lacks credibility and objectivity.

Second, and more importantly, Williams cited two specific examples to bolster his assertion, without noting (or perhaps even realizing) that McCain used to work across party lines on campaign-finance legislation and immigration, but he’s since abandoned his more centrist approach to both.

Media Matters noted:

Williams did not note that McCain now says that he would no longer support his own bill if it came up for a vote in the Senate. Additionally, McCain has reversed himself on the issue of border security; he now says that “we’ve got to secure the borders first” — a position at odds with his prior assertion that border security could not be disaggregated from other aspects of comprehensive immigration reform without being rendered ineffective.

Quite right. Pre-campaign McCain — you know, the one who considered leaving the Republican Party in ’01 and weighed joining John Kerry’s ticket in ’04 — was willing to talk to Democrats about legislation. Republican Nominee McCain bears no resemblance.

And third, as Mark Kleiman noted, not only is Williams wrong about McCain, he’s also wrong about Obama.

Obama has more genuine bipartisan achievement to his credit in his short career than McCain does in his long one.

Obama has several substantial bi-partisan accomplishments. In Springfield, he sponsored successful bills for children’s health care, an earned income tax credit, ethics and campaign finance reform, and videotaped police interrogations (an anti-torture measure). In Washington, it was ethics reform again and work with Richard Lugar on loose nukes. That is not a thin record.

No wonder the clip is making the rounds in “Republican circles”; it’s not especially well grounded in reality.

Pointing out how many times McCain has voted against his own bipartisan compromises — especially the prominent ones with his own name on them, like McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, etc. — should not only blunt this charge but reinforce the flip-flopping image he richly deserves.


  • First, pro-McCain testimonials from Fox News personalities really don’t carry a lot of weight.

    Ah, but it won’t be Fox News Analyst Juan Williams, it’ll be a Fox News clip of Juan Williams from that liberally liberal NPR.

    He costs NPR credibility reguarly. They really need to send him packing.

  • That is hilarious, and should be quite useful. The “maverick” who “works across party lines”, has flipflopped on his own signature issues, and now only works the Republican side of the line, which most Americans know is the side of Old Washington Politics. He backed Bush on 95% of the things that he actually showed up to vote on, and he wants us to believe that he’s a maverick?

    ROFLMAO

  • This is a message that everyone needs to broadcast loud and clear, that McCain “flip-flops” on an epic scale. Of course, the Republican response will be that he’s just saying those things to improve his electibility, and since all politicians do that, that’s OK. Unless you’re a Democrat, in which case it shows unforgivable weakness of character. But not McCain.

  • I guess mclame IS working across party lines in the sense that he represents the same interests and panders to the same voters as shillary

    Racer X – shillary back dur chimpfurher on virtually everything too – so I guess in some way the 2 of them do “work across party lines.”

    Both are extremely out of touch with America which OVERWHELMINGLY wants change.

    mclame=clinton and BOTH=bush

  • It really is a reflection of just how rotten politics has become if anyone can make an issue about “working across party lines”. No doubt, McCain has been on the more reasonable side of some issues. But we should also consider just how much sway McCain had in persuading members of his own party on those issues. And don’t forget too, the McCain is a senator who is up for reelection only every six years. Senators have a bit more leeway in not being so dependent on following the party line except when they decide to run for president.

  • Juan Williams – a great reason to turn off NPR, which certainly has become a shaodow of its former self, and I am not referring to it as a “liberal” network, but just as a network whose reporters had some professional credibility. Putting Willaims and Mara Liasson, who are Republican shills, into the prominent positions they have now does nothing to maintain crediblity.

  • Someone, please remind me how McCain Feingold reduced the influence of big money. The real story is not that he crossed lines. It’s that the bill was a complete sham, switching power from the National parties to the lobbyists, PAC’s and 527’s.

  • I am not IFP, in case anyone was confused about that (e.g., Maria). I post here only under the name Mary. The same cannot be said for others.

    I have no interest in reading articles about McCain. The idea that any Democrat needs reasons to oppose McCain is idiotic. We do, however, need reasons to forgive Obama and his supporters for their recent behavior, and I am hearing nothing about that here, or anywhere else for that matter. I am planning to vote for Nader, as I’ve said before. I will never, under any circumstances, vote for Obama. I’ve suffered through bad presidents and Republican presidents and the country will come through this no matter who is elected. I’ve never voted outside the Democratic party before, but there is a first time for everything I guess.

    Voting for someone because he is of the same race as you are, is racialized voting whether you are black or white. I don’t do it and I don’t condone it when Obama supporters do it or when Clinton supporters do it. The double standard for Obama frustrates me more than any other aspect of this primary campaign. You all don’t care what you say or do as long as Obama wins. I’ll leave you to the hollowness of that kind of victory. I don’t know how much I’ll be around, given that stuff posted about McCain is boring and stuff posted about Obama is intolerable.

  • Please, let us focus on McCan’ts senate carreer.

    That’s why his base hates him. Let’s mention every comprimise on finance reform, immigration and judicial nominations. Show him flip-flopping yes, but also show his ‘base’ how much they have to despise the man.

    Along with us.

  • I third (or fourth) the notion about Williams and Liasson.

    I love listening to NPR, and overall they are still a great source of news. But those two clowns are a blight on their reputation.

  • Mary-

    Grow up.

    Be a big girl and make the big girl choice. It doesn’t matter what you think about Obama or how much you loooove Hillary. You know McCain will be an unmitigated disaster for this country. Period.

    Spare us the nonsense about Obama or his supporters making nice with you. You know what the right decision is. If you vote for McCain or stay home in November, that choice is on your head – and nobody else’s.

  • This is how Republicans work across party lines. Granted, it’s not the senate, but it wholly applies. This from ThinkProgress:

    Republicans vote against Mother’s Day.

    On Wednesday, the House took up the seemingly uncontroversial H. Res. 1113, “Celebrating the role of mothers in the United States and supporting the goals and ideals of Mother’s Day.” The resolution initially passed 412 to 0, until Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS) rose in protest:

    Mr. Speaker, I ask for a recorded vote because I’m sure every member wants their mother to know that they have supported the goals of Mother’s Day.

    Tiahrt’s mother, however, may be disappointed to know that her son did not support Mother’s Day. He and 177 other Republicans decided to cast their vote against mothers.

    When asked why the GOP switched their votes, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) said, “Oh, we just wanted to make sure that everyone was on record in support of Mother’s Day.” (Even though he also was actually on record against Mother’s Day.) The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank reports that this move was a procedural tactic to “bring the House to a standstill.”

    You can watch the video here.

    Why did they do this? Good question. I called Mr. Tiahrt’s office in DC. Apparently, the minority Republicans are going to stop votes on EVERYTHING until they get what they want in the Emergency Supplemental Bill. The goopers will be doing Motions To Reconsider on every bill presented until they get what they want in that supplemental.

    This is what our government has become. The minority stops government from functioning until they get what they want.

    Want more of this? Vote McCain in November. Vote for ANY Republican in November.

    Our government is broken…seriously broken.

  • Additionally, for anyone who thinks that this supplemental bill might be about anything but the war, read this.

    This is ALL about the war, no matter what this pr!cks say!

    Crossing the aisle my ass!

  • Hey, I listen to NPR, and I totally agree about Juan (Faux “News” personality) Williams and Mara Liasson.
    I just want to add Cokie Roberts to the credibilty sucking “talent” pool names. I can summarize every one of the reports given by these three:
    “This is good for the Republicans.”
    If the other big media didn’t suck so badly, NPR wouldn’t seem nearly as good as it does post Bush meddling.

  • BuzzMon is on the mark. I became aquainted with all of the above, Williams, Liason, and McCain, by watching the same Sunday morning gang of liars. There were actually a few moments when Juan sort of half assed tried to question the Bush administration. Mara Liason would always bat her eyes and blurt out something like “we just have to hand it to the Bush Administration” and I would wonder why do they say she’s a left wing pundit?

    I still recall the day my wife walked in and saw McCain in a closeup on Sunday, she said, “my god what happened to that guy?”

    My reply was “a little torture, then a facelift.”

    Seems like sooooo looooong ago.

    I just don’t watch those shows anymore.

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