Barr makes the transition from far-right gadfly to Libertarian candidate

Former Rep. Bob Barr, as Dana Milbank reminds us, developed a colorful reputation during his four-term tenure in the House.

As a Republican candidate for the House in 1994, he rose to national attention when reports alleged that he had licked whipped cream off the breasts of two women at a charity event.

As a congressman from Georgia, the thrice-married Barr returned attention to the whipped-cream episode when, speaking in support of the Defense of Marriage Act, he argued that “the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundations of our society.”

As one of the managers of Bill Clinton’s impeachment, Barr gained enough prominence to attempt a run for the Senate in 2002. But that effort fell apart at about the time Barr accidentally fired a .38-caliber pistol through a glass door at a fundraising reception.

Ironically, Barr became more principled and serious after serving in Congress. After departing Capitol Hill, Barr became disillusioned with what had become of his Republican Party. He was nearly apoplectic about Bush’s conduct in the NSA warrantless search scandal, suggesting the president “deliberately order[ed] that federal law be violated,” and “ignored” the Constitution. Shortly thereafter, Barr agreed to introduce Al Gore at an event in which Gore blasted the president’s “excessive power grabs.” He was also highly critical of the Bush administration in the prosecutor purge scandal.

About a year ago, Barr left the GOP altogether and began talking to the Libertarian Party, calling for a “multidecade effort” to build a movement to make the party nationally competitive. He added that many “real conservatives” have become disheartened with Republicans. “They are eager for a philosophical home,” Barr said. “There are enough of them out there that a significant number can be weaned away” from the GOP.

Is Barr right? His presidential campaign, announced formally yesterday in DC, should be an interesting test.

One assumes Republicans will condemn Barr as a spoiler, running to undermine John McCain’s chances. For his part, Barr actually seems to dislike McCain enough to wear the label with some pride. When a reporter at yesterday’s kick-off speech at the National Press Club asked, “What’s your problem with McCain?” Barr turned to his campaign manager, former Ross Perot adviser Russ Verney. “How long do we have here, Russ?”

Barr took issue with McCain’s Iran policy. “I’m not going to go around making up songs about such a serious matter as going to war with a sovereign nation, as Senator McCain did,” the former congressman said, tut-tutting McCain’s “Barbara Ann/Bomb Iran” episode.

He quarreled with McCain’s Iraq policy. “These troops need to be brought home,” he offered.

He ridiculed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, which, he said, means McCain “cannot ever lay legitimate claim, at least with a straight face, to … being labeled as a conservative.”

He put down McCain’s plan to do away with pet-project earmarks, claiming it “would make barely a drop in the bucket with regard to the national debt, the deficit.”

And he disparaged McCain’s fiscal policy, saying “there are some legitimate questions that have been raised over whether Senator McCain is simply a Johnny-come-lately to the modest tax cuts.”

So, will any of this matter on Election Day? Are there enough Libertarians out there to affect the outcome? Josh Marshall argued that there are a few scenarios in which Barr could “draw non-trivial numbers away from McCain,” specifically in a few states where “drawing off a few points in one direction could make a state competitive where it otherwise wouldn’t be.” (Josh points to some Mountain states as the region to keep an eye on.)

Conceding, of course, that third-party candidates rarely have any influence at all, Barr is certainly worth watching. There’s some Republican discontent with McCain, and Barr will be fanning the flames with every opportunity. He’ll also get plenty of chances to hammer his message home, by virtue of his status as a media darling.

The one thing I’d add to Josh’s analysis is the question of Ron Paul, who also ran for president on the Libertarian ticket a few cycles ago. Paul continues to express reservations about endorsing the McCain ticket, and will likely find a great deal in common with Barr. Might Paul throw his support to Barr and encourage his followers to back him? It wouldn’t surprise me at all.

The point isn’t that Barr is seriously going to be in a position to win a single state; he clearly won’t be. But it’s hardly a stretch to think Barr might be able to put a few percentage points together in some competitive states, with a coalition of Paulites, libertarians, and disaffected Republicans.

In a close contest, in which a percentage point here or there might matter, could Barr matter? I don’t see why not.

I believe Barr is the only Republican terrified by Clinton’s expanded anti-terror powers, who also opposed Bush’s Patriot Act. And the only Libertarian to figure out the ACLU is on his side. (If the ACLU would just be consistent on Amendment 2…)

  • Bob Barr’s good as far as it goes. That takes care of peeling off the extreme libertarian vote. Now if we could find someone who could draw off the few remaining (Nelson) Rockefeller Republicans, and another to peel off the Southern Strategy bigots, and another for the snake-handling religious nuts, and another for the NASCAR crowd.

    Peel all that off and you’re left with the essence of the GOP: big business greed mitigated somewhat by sexual perversion.

  • Ed, I appreciate that you find sexual perversion a mitigating factor 🙂

  • I’m going to climb out on a limb and say that the GOP is probably unmitigated in its perversions.

  • The question with Barr is not how big the libertarian vote is but how big the far right vote is and how many would vote third party as opposed to Republican.

    The Libertarian label is applied to a wide variety of people. Many, such as Barr, are essentially conservatives who find the libertarian label cooler, especially if they (understandably) want to disassociate themselves from Bush. Barr is certainly preferable to Bush with regards to civil liberties issues.

    If McCain moves towards the center in the general election campaign (which he must do to keep the votes of those who think he is a moderate or independent) he risks alienating more on the far right who would consider Barr. It is possible that in some states he could take enough votes from McCain to tilt a close race similar to Nader in 2000.

  • I think Barr could do a bit better than Nader. There are a few things I like about the theoretical policies of the Republicans (lower taxes and efficient government would certainly help the economy … I’m just not sure what to cut from the budget, besides the obvious war and excessive military spending). If the Republicans got rid of the war-mongering and religious BS, they could actually start to compete with the Democrats for my vote … and a lot of people feel like this and I think Barr and Ron Paul fits into this niche.

  • I don’t see Ron Paul endorsing a third-party candidate. Democrats treat Lieberman with deference in his support of McCain; Congressman Paul knows Republicans would strip him of committee assignments and make him a man without a party if he supported the Libertarian candidate.

  • One more thing …


    he rose to national attention when reports alleged that he had licked whipped cream off the breasts of two women at a charity event.

    Who was receiving the charity here?

  • Libertarians are Republicans who like flouting “family values.”

    Licking whipped cream off womens’ breasts is perverted? James Dobson would be pleased to hear that.

  • Barr was loosing the 2002 Senate campaign before the accidental discharge of the gun at a party. However, because of that incident, we were treaty to a Yosemite Sam character wearing a “Gun Safety Instructor” pin appearing at all his campaign appearances. Barr’s son even attacked the guy once. It was a hilarious time!

  • Steve – thanks for including Ron Paul in your post. I’ve know a number of people who expressed interest in his wacky bag of worldviews, and none of them had an answer when I pointed out that he still has that criminal brand ( R ) behind his name.
    I believe that it would increase his crediblity (as far as an anti-choice Libertarian could get) if he completely dropped out of the Republican party. It will be interesting to see if he really belives his spiel and joins this movement, or stays with the Republicans. If he stays with the Republicans, in my mind he’s just another full-of shit class warrior blowing smoke up the collected asses of his constituents.
    I’d bet on the latter scenario.

  • I’m betting McCain’s global warming speech yesterday got more votes for Bob Barr from “true conservatives” than McCain got from environmentalists.

  • I don’t know that he will peel off many Republican voters. He may get protest votes for those that wanted to vote for someone like the empty suit Romney but who were going to stay home.

  • …reports alleged that he had licked whipped cream off the breasts of two women at a charity event.

    Well, to be fair, whipped cream is delicious.

    As long as it’s not a dead girl or a live boy, I don’t think the GOP cares. I doubt the Libertarians care either, since most of them are just Republicans who want to smoke grass.

  • Re BuzzMon’s comment, I don’t have any problem with Paul remaining in the Republican Party. If we go with the assumption that he is preferable to the mainstream Republicans, than we should want people with preferable views to be in the party as opposed to allowing the neocons and Bush apologists to dominate the party.

    Besides, from a practical point of view it is understandable that Paul would rather be a Republican than a Libertarian Party candidate. He can get elected as a Republican while the chances of a Libertarian making it to Congress are a lot lower. Unfortunately Paul has had to compromise principles to run as a Republican. Despite his anti-war position,when running as a Republican his campaign literature often looks like that of a typical pro-war Republican.

  • Steve, I think you updated the wrong blog entry with the Jonah Goldberg rebuke of Boehner.

  • How on earth does a Libertarian support the Defense of Marriage Act? Has he turned around on this issue, or is he still anti-gay marriage?

  • I must confess, I have little respect for libertarianism, as it is heavily elitist and essentially transfers all power from the government to private businesses. So it would be really nice to watch them all flock into their own tent and leave the rest of us alone.

    My main concern is that I’ve met many liberals who have been bamboozled into believing that libertarianism is their ally. There are many who have claimed that they were willing to vote for Ron Paul, and we don’t want them to by siphoned away by Barr’s candidacy. We want them to vote for the dem.

  • Barr is likely to have more influence than Nader for several reasons:

    McCain still does not have his ‘base’ secure. Even now other candidates are pulling 20-30% of the votes in Republican primaries — even though they have dropped out. (This is not comparable to the Clinton vote, since Hillary supporters still believe that they have a chance — and, were there some incredible gaffe or scandal, they are right. McCain has the delegates to ensure his nomination whatever happens. Nor is it comparable to Kennedy-Carter, where Kennedy was, technically, still in the race.) These are people sufficiently motivated to take the time to go to the polls to vote when there is no campaign, no publicity. They are ‘pure’ anti-McCain votes. If Barr peels off even 10% of them, it will matter.

    Because of this, McCain will be forced to ‘run to the right’ rather than ‘run to the center.’ This will substantially cut down on his appeal to that group of independents that are — supposedly — begging for the chance to support him.

    Furthermore, there ARE a lot of Republicans who might support McCain on other issues but who are against the War. This, more than ‘Libertarian principles’ is what moved the Paul campaign. Paul was always very vulnerable because of his past racist comments and substantial support from the neo-Nazi group. (It never became an issue because Paul never got enough votes to matter. Had he pulled down even 10% it would have.)

    Barr has been an extreme hard-liner on social issues — though not quite as bad as Paul. But he’s shown *ahem* flexibility on other issues. The Libertarian Party’s raison d’etre has been precisely that it believes the government should stay out of the bedroom and the ‘smoking room.’ (If it was just for ‘economic libertarianism’ it would be the Norquist party.) Were Barr to announce he now accepts the party’s position on this, were he to choose, for example, a Steve Gunderson or Jim Kolbe as a running mate, he’d pick up a LOT of support from the Log Cabin Republicans and other ‘conservative gays.’ (Kolbe might even cost McCain Arizona.)

    And, finally, few people have seen Paul except in snippets. Barr has been a commentator or regular guest on the news networks. And even people like myself, who used to hate him have tended to give him more respect because of what he’s said.

    So this might be much more important than it appears at first.

  • Shave Tail:
    The liberal support for Ron Paul came at a time when everybody assumed that the Democratic Nomination was Hillary’s to lose — it was, she did — and was based almost exclusively on the war — and maybe on drug legalization. They didn’t trust Hillary on the war, didn’t expect Obama to be successful, and supported Paul for this reason.

    Once Obama proved to be a viable candidate, the Paul support dropped like a stone. (Some of that was helped by the number of Stormfront types that kept showing up at his rallies in full regalia.)

    There are still some liberals who support Libertarianism, particularly the more conspiracy-oriented among us (hello, Little Bear). But they will be a minor factor compared to the anti-McCain Republicans.

  • How on earth does Barr consider himself a Libertarian? More to the point, how on earth do Libertarians count him among their ranks? He voted against civil marriage equality, and in 1999 he, along with then-Governor Chimpy and Strom Thurmond were demanding that the DOD stop supporting religious freedom for Pagan and Wiccan troops.

    http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/RINVol2No2/wicca.htm

    Sorry, Bob, but just because you don’t support Mein Chimpenfurher’s Executive power grabs and violations of the 4th and 14th Amendment does NOT make you a Libertarian. Try again. But by all means, please take support away from McSame so the grownups can finally get something done.

  • In 1992, Perot threw the election in Clinton. Clinton subsequently balanced the budget… Perot’s main issue.

    In 2000, Nader threw the race to Bush. Dems rode Gore’s global warming green wave to take both houses in 2006.

    In 2008, can Bob Barr make the two big parties scrabble and claw for libertarians by beefing up civil rights?

    I can only hope so.

  • Prup, I really want to believe that, but I’ve been seeing liberals buying into the libertarian myth for years. It long predates Paul’s candidacy.

  • Steve, I think you updated the wrong blog entry with the Jonah Goldberg rebuke of Boehner.

    How very embarrassing. It’s fixed.

  • The real question is how much will Barr undercut Nader by? Looks like the lunatic-fringe demographic might get split.

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