McCain shouldn’t count too hard on veterans’ support

In light of the vote yesterday on a modernized, bipartisan GI Bill for U.S. troops, John McCain was forced to defend his position against general educational benefits for veterans. (For the record, McCain didn’t vote on the bill, preferring to go to a fundraiser in California.)

McCain responded by changing the subject away from the bill, emphasizing his service and support from fellow veterans.

“I believe that I have earned the right to speak out on veterans’ issues,” McCain said. “As a matter of fact I received the highest award from literally every veteran’s organization in America. I don’t know if the American people will judge Senator Obama as to whether he has military experience or not, but I think they may judge him as to whether he has experience and knowledge to make the judgment necessary to care for the veterans.”

The funny thing about the word “literally,” of course, is that it has a rather specific meaning.

And in McCain’s case, it invites critics to point out just how disappointed several veterans’ organizations have been in his willingness to support measures to help the troops.

Time magazine, for example, posed the question this week: “Does McCain Have a Vets Problem?” Keying off the GI Bill vote, Time reported:

“This isn’t about anything partisan; we are firmly supporting the bill that does right by the veterans, does right by the troops, and that is not McCain’s bill,” said Ramona Joyce, a spokeswoman for the American Legion. “It could do McCain damage with veteran voters if this issue drags out.” […]

This is not the first time McCain, who has a proud history of opposing what he views as excessive government spending, has found himself at odds with his fellow veterans on legislation. He’s voted for veterans funding bills only 30% of the time, according to a scorecard of roll-call votes put out by the nonpartisan Disabled Americans for America. Under the same system Obama has a 90% rating — though, of course, he has spent a much shorter time in Washington. “Senator McCain clearly needs to be recognized for his military service and in some respects that will play to his advantage, but when it actually comes to delivering health care and benefits during war, Senator McCain’s going to have some explaining to do,” said Paul Sullivan, director of the nonpartisan Veterans for Common Sense.

TP added some key tidbits, including the fact that Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans (Obama got a B+), and the Vietnam Veterans of America compiled a list of key votes, and found McCain voted against the group’s position 15 times and with the group eight times. (Obama, in contrast, voted with the VVA 12 times, and against it only once.)

McCain obviously has “the right to speak out on veterans’ issues”; we all do. But McCain is also under the impression that his service trumps his voting record. And on this, he’s clearly mistaken.

There was a time when a man who didn’t fight in WWII better not think about running for president. There was a time when most candidates who didn’t fight in Vietnam would have some ‘splainin’ to do also.

Today, what percentage of candidates do you think have served in the military? I don’t have a number; I just know that the expectation that a person who’s now 46 years old would have been in the military is faintly ridiculous to most people. This statement is such vintage McCain; he’s running the campaign of 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, emphasizing how old and utterly out of touch he is with most Americans.

  • This should be a particularly tough year to be on the wrong side of this issue: 1) Walter Reed 2) Fort Bragg 3) Multiple tours 4) The Perez Memo telling doctors not to diagnose PTSD 5) The numbers of returning wounded (especially brain traumas and psychological effects) 6) Recruitment lagging despite allowances for felons and high school dropouts.

    And if there is one word that best describes McCain’s military record and his political talk this year, it is “reckless”.

  • Enough is enough! Military service is not a pre-requisite for holding office. If that were the case, the majority of asshole republicans wouldn’t have a job today:

    Prominent Democrats
    • Representative Jack Murtha (D-PA) – distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts, retired from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990. (1)
    • Representative Richard Gephardt, former House Minority Leader – Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71. (1, 2)
    • Representative David Bonior – Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72 (1, 2)
    • Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle – 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72 (1, 2)
    • Former Vice President Al Gore – enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon. More facts about Gore’s Service
    • Former Senator Bob Kerrey… Democrat… Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam (1, 2)
    • Senator Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-’47; Medal of Honor, World War Two (1, 2)
    • Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat (1)
    • Representative Charles Rangel, Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea (1, 2)
    • Former Senator Max Cleland, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam (1, 2)
    • Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) – U.S. Army, 1951-1953. (1)
    • Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) – Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. (1, 2)
    • Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) – U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91 (1)
    • Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) – served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons. (1)
    • Representative Leonard Boswell (D-IA) – Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier’s Medal. (1, 2)
    • Former Representative “Pete” Peterson, Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit. (1, 2)
    • Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart. (1, 2)
    • Bill McBride, Democratic Candidate for Florida Governor – volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat “V.” (1)
    • Gray Davis, former California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star. (1)
    • Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57
    • Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate – lengthy military career.

    Prominent Republicans
    • Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert – avoided the draft, did not serve.
    • Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey – avoided the draft, did not serve.
    • Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay – avoided the draft, did not serve (1). “So many minority youths had volunteered … that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself.”
    • House Majority Whip Roy Blunt – did not serve
    • Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist – did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
    • Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-KY – did not serve (1)
    • Rick Santorum, R-PA, third ranking Republican in the Senate – did not serve. (1)
    • Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott – avoided the draft, did not serve.
    • Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld – served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan’s Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.
    • GW Bush – decided that a six-year Nat’l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he’s “been to war.” Huh?
    • VP Cheney – several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, “had other priorities than military service”) (1)
    • Former Att’y Gen. John Ashcroft – did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
    • Jeb Bush, Florida Governor – did not serve. (1)
    • arl Rove – avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
    • Former Speaker Newt Gingrich – avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
    • Former President Ronald Reagan – due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
    • “B-1” Bob Dornan – avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
    • Phil Gramm – avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments
    • Senator John McCain – McCain’s naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
    • Former Senator Bob Dole – an honorable man. http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.php
    • Chuck Hagel – two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam. http://www.senate.gov/~hagel/Information/bio.htm
    • Duke Cunningham – nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.
    • Senator Jeff Sessions U.S. Army Reserves, 1973-1986
    • Colin Powell. What are we to make of Powell? On the one hand, a long career as a military manager. On the other hand, accused of covering up the My Lai massacre. Back on that first hand, one of the seemingly sane voices in this administration when it comes to Iraq (or at least he used to be). On the other hand, a clear hypocrite (“I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed… managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units…”)
    • Representative Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), served in USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.
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    Democrats
    • Chuck Robb, US Senator from Virginia, served in Vietnam
    • Howell Heflin… Democrat… Silver Star
    • George McGovern, famous liberal, awarded Silver Star & DFC, dozens of missions during WWII.
    • Former President Bill Clinton – avoided the draft through student deferments; in the autumn of 1969, Clinton entered the draft but received a high number (311) and was never called to serve. (CNN article.) “…it was his doubts about the morality of the war and the Selective Service system that led him to abandon the ROTC idea and to subject himself to a draft lottery. Only the luck of the draw – a high lottery number – kept him out. ” (Jeff Greenfield, ABC News, quoting Gov. Clinton.)
    • Former President Jimmy Carter, most recent recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, seven years in the Navy. “Except for his fellow service-academy graduate Dwight Eisenhower, no President of the twentieth century spent more years in uniform than Carter.” (New Yorker Magazine)
    • Former Presidential Nominee Mike Dukakis – United States Army, 1955-’57 (1)
    • Former Senator/Vice Presidential nominee Lloyd Bentsen – B-24 pilot in WWII 1942-’45, Squadron Commander; earned Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters. (1)
    • Former Vice President Walter Mondale, U.S. Army 1951-1953
    • Former Senator John Glenn, D-OH (1974-1999) – Served in WWII and Korea; extensive military commendations include the Distinguished Flying Cross on six occasions, and the Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
    • Congressman Tom Lantos, D-CA – Did not serve in the US military; did serve in the Hungarian anti-Nazi underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg, is the only Holocaust survivor to serve in Congress.
    Republicans/Conservatives
    Political
    • Senator Richard Shelby, did not serve (1)
    • Senator Jon Kyl, R-AZ – did not serve (1, 2)
    • Senator John Cornyn, R-TX – did not serve. (1)
    • Senator Tim Hutchison, R-AR – did not serve (1, 2)
    • Rep. Christopher Cox, R-CA, (formerly) fifth-ranking Republican in the House – did not serve. (1)
    • Rep. John T. Doolittle, R-CA, sixth-ranking Republican in the House – did not serve.
    • Representative Saxby Chambliss, Georgia – did not serve (1, 2), had a “bad knee” (yet somehow feels he has a right to attack Max Cleland’s patriotism)
    • Former Representative JC Watts – did not serve (1, 2)
    • Jack Kemp, did not serve (1, 2) (was unfit because of a knee injury, though he heroically continued as a National Football League quarterback for another eight years – source)
    • Former Vice President Dan Quayle, avoided Vietnam service, got a slot in the journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard when the unit was at 150% capacity (at least he showed up for his duty, unlike GW) (1, 2)
    • Eliot Abrams, did not serve (1, 2) (however, played a key role in subverting democracy in South America)
    • Paul Wolfowitz, did not serve (1, 2)
    • Former Representative Vin Weber, did not serve (1, 2)
    • Richard Perle, did not serve (1, 2) (is the current bloodshed in the Middle East a direct result of his treasonous meddling in Clinton Administrstion foreign policy?)
    • Douglas Feith, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy – did not serve. (1)
    • Rudy Giuliani, did not serve (1, 2)
    • Michael Bloomberg, did not serve (1, 2)
    • George Pataki, did not serve (1, 2)
    • Spencer Abraham, did not serve
    • John Engler, did not serve (1, 2)
    • Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) – website used to claim service as a “Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm veteran.” A current biographical website makes no such claim. In reality, was a National Guard lawyer who never left South Carolina during the Gulf War.
    • Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-CA, did not serve (1)
    • Rep. Darrell Issa, R-CA/49th, there were some problems with his service.
    • Rep. John M. McHugh, R-NY – avoided the draft, did not serve (1)
    • Rep. Todd Platts, R-PA – did not serve (1)
    • Arnold Schwarzenegger, CA Republican Governor – went AWOL from his Austrian army base to enter a bodybuilding competition
    • George Herbert Walker Bush, pilot in WWII. Awarded Navy Cross. Shot down by the Japanese; was lone survivor out of airplane (link).
    • Representative Sam R. Johnson, combat missions in both Korea and Vietnam, POW in Hanoi from April 1966 to February 1973 (1)
    (don’t ever run for president Sam, they’ll spread rumors that you’re crazy)
    • Senator Ted Stevens, R-AK, WW II pilot, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Air Medals, and the Yuan Hai medal awarded by the Republic of China.
    • Sen. John Warner, R-VA – Served in the Navy 1945-1946 as a RM3; reenlisted in the USMC 1950, 10 years service in Marine Corps Reserve, retired as Captain.
    • Congresswoman Heather Wilson, R-NM, served in the Air Force 1978-1989
    • Former President Gerald Ford, served in the Navy, WWII
    • Former Senator Strom Thurmond – apparently believes, along with Trent Lott, that America should have been a segregated society. Still, he served.
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  • Look, I’m not saying a soldier is, de facto, an a-hole. I’m just saying that the capacity to be an a-hole is in everyone, and a soldier isn’t necessarily a great guy, AND not every soldier feels the same way about everything. So if McCain thinks that, by being a vet himself, he’s in a position to speak on behalf of all vets, then he’s also saying that he disagrees with a whole lot of other vets who agree with this legislation. He’s belittling their opinions, and underserving their needs. Which maes him…an a-hole. A veteran, but also an a-hero. Way to multiask.

  • The upset is he should be the first one to understand the need for the bill…………

  • citizen pain (3) What are the 1’s and 2’s at the ends of each line?

    Also one correction. Mitch McConnel was in the Army reserve for 6 months. I can’t find it now, but somewhere I remember reading that he was accused of fondling other recruits in the showers, and that this is the reason he is widely suspected of being gay.

  • I’d like to hear McCain articulate the logical extension of his position, which is that you are not qualified to make decisions with respect to a position or subset of people in the country unless you have served in that position or are a member of that subset.

    So I’m looking for a transgendered ex-military peace activist who is an evangelistic atheist with interracial parents to run as an independent democratic republican. Preferably someone who dropped out of high school to work at Wal-Mart so he could get his Ph.D. and inherit the family fortune. Anyone?

  • Of course, the subtext about a youthful Obama, his military experience, and “whether he has experience and knowledge to make the judgments necessary to care for the veterans” has another meaning to my mind. After all, he’s just a boy, nod-nod, wink-wink.

  • The most telling thing about military sentiment in this race is the overwhelming number of donations that have gone to the Obama campaign from current military troops. John McCain? Not so much. Obviously, opinion in the military community is divided.

    I would like to see the Obama camp play this up at some point.

  • So, being a former POW makes you more qualified to be president than not joining the military? This is from the same party that decided being AWOL from easy duty in the homeland beat being a decorated war hero.

  • Just who is McCain trying to please with this lack of support for the new GI Bill? It’s dumb.The Republican’s can’t claim they’re trying to save money when they’re war of choice is leaking money like it is. They can spend money to bomb an Iraqi village but not to educate a GI?

    And I suspect Dobbs and Robertson and them all look down on the Hagees and Parselys too.

    McCain is running a lousy race so far. It reminds me how out of touch Lieberman was when he finally had to fight for his seat. Remember those amateurish ads he ran?

    I don’t think McCain has a clue about what’s going on in America.

  • I am a Viet-Nam veteran … McBush not only does not have my fucking support .. only my absolute contempt for the piece of repiglican pig shit that he has become …

  • Oh, one more thing Dan, I live in KY, and have never heard the McConnell is gay rumor, but I wouldn’t doubt it at all. He sure does have an effeminate air about him. Since we are sort of on that topic ( I posted this on my blog during the ’06 election):

    As we approach perhaps the most important mid-term elections in our history, the Republican sleaze machine-Rove and his swift boaters, the bible thumping paranoid zealots and similar ilk are cranking into high gear. No doubt wretchedness and downright nastiness are sure to ensue. So, given that the Republicans seem to think they have a monopoly on values, that they hold the moral high ground, and democrats/progressives are simply godless immoral devious heathens, I want to highlight some Republicans that seem to have forgotten the lofty moral standing they so espouse:
    (please forgive the poor format)

    Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator from Puerto Rico, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9.

    Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist from Colorado, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Source Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl.
    Dick Armey (R-Texas), former professor, has been accused by The Dallas Observer of sexually harassing female students.

    Jim Bakker, televangelist with Pat Robertson at Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting network. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn and then used charitable donations to pay her hush money. Fellow televangelists say he’s gay. Indicted on 23 federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering . Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner from Maine, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

    Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying “The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit.” Was married three times. Paid for his second wife’s abortion. Failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.

    Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

    Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist from Maryland, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

    Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector from Virginia, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

    William Bennett, Drug Czar under George H. W. Bush, compulsive gambler who has had to wire as much as $1.4 million to cover gambling losses in a 2 month period.

    Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens.

    Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

    John Bolton: George W. Bush’s latest Ambassador to United Nations. Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department.

    Mike Bowers Former State Attorney General of Georgia, prosecuted the famous “Bowers vs. Hardwick” case, based on Georgia anti-sodomy laws. Admitted to a 10-year adulterous affair.
    Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

    Jeffrey Buley (http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/36931.htm), New York Republican Party’s top lawyer, and senior political adviser to Gov. Pataki (R), arrested for assaulting his wife in a drunken rage. They have two young children.

    Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party. Infamous serial rapist who murdered 16 women.

    Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: With his success due in great part to support from the Christian Coalition, Bunn won his congressional seat, then immediately ditched his wife (and mother of his five children), married a staffer, and put his new wife on the state payroll for the unheard-of salary of $97,500.

    John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist from Pensacola, Florida, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran.

    Dan Burton, Republican Congressman from Indiana who, while married, fathered a child by another woman.

    George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999.

    Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition, admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his room while on an Asian business trip.

    John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

    Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-Ca), champion of the Christian Coalition and its “family values.” Sued as an alimony deadbeat by his ex-wife. Said “We can’t forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky.” In 1993 he was caught by police receiving oral sex from a prostitute and attempted to flee the scene.

    Charles Canady, Congressman (R-Florida), Judiciary Committee member. Lied to his constituents about his adulterous affair with Sharon Becker, which caused her divorce.

    Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). Admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate. In 1995, Chenoweth had denied the affair when asked about it by The Spokane Spokesman-Review, but now she claims a pardon from a higher authority: “I’ve asked for God’s forgiveness, and I’ve received it,” she revealed.

    Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman from Hawaii, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.

    Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.

    Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who died of AIDS.

    Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old; the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial.

    Dan Crane, Republican Congressman from Illinois, married, father of six. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.

    Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair.

    Randy Cunningham: Federal prosecutors are investigating allegations that Congressman and confessed-felon ‘Duke’ Cunningham was periodically supplied with prositutes. Cunningham pled guilty to corruption charges, and is currently serving jail-time.

    Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes.

    Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges.

    Peter Dibble, Republican legislator from Connecticut pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

    Brian J. Doyle, Deputy Press Secretary for U.S. Department of Homeland Security. On March 12, 2006, Doyle contacted a 14-year-old girl whose profile was posted on the Internet, and initiated a sexually explicit conversation with her. The girl was actually an undercover Polk County Sheriff s Computer Crimes detective. Doyle knew that the girl was 14 years old, and he told her who he was and that he worked for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. During future online chats, Doyle gave the undercover detective posing as a 14-year-old girl his office phone number and his government-issued cell phone number, so that they could have telephone conversations, in addition to their online chatting. Doyle used the Internet to send hard-core pornographic movie clips to the girl and used the AOL Instant Messenger chat service to have explicit sexual conversations with her.

    Nicholas Elizondo, Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

    Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest.

    John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child.

    Jeff Gannon Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush’s Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute.

    Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman from Pennsylvania, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot.

    Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters.

    Newt Gingrich, Republican from Georgia, married three times. Gingrich campaign worker Anne Manning admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. Informed one wife he was filing for divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer treatments.

    Philip Giordano, Republican mayor from Connecticut sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall office.

    Matthew Glavin, President and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indecency, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him.

    Marty Glickman, Republican activist, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

    Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist from Virginia, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

    Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor, withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to grope one. “I’ve made some mistakes” he said.

    Dr. W. David Hager, Bush appointee from Kentucky, member of Focus on the Family’s Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep.

    Mark Harris, Republican city councilman from Wisconsin who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

    John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate from Maine, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

    Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Schiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002.

    Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor from Des Moines, Iowa, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail, and promoted his policies. Says he supports Bush’s values. Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child. Also signed an ad (that called for criminally prosecuting business that sell porn), together with another pastor who was repeatedly busted for public masturbation.

    Neal Horsley, anti-abortion activist from Georgia. Has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. Admitted on the Fox News Radio’s The Alan Colmes Show, that he’s had sex with mules. Put photographs on his Web site of naked men engaging in homosexual acts and a nude woman engaging in bestiality amid shots of grotesquely maimed fetuses. Drug dealer convicted of possession of hashish with intent to sell. He calls for “the establishment of a new government, one that can obey God’s plan for government.”

    Henry Hyde, Republican Congressman from Illinois, Judge who oversaw Clinton’s impeachment proceedings, prominent opponent of reproductive rights, who had an extramarital affair with a woman who was married and had three children, during the course of which she and her husband were divorced.

    Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California’s rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son “acted accordingly” because the child was a “slut”.

    Tim Hutchinson, divorced his wife of 29 years to marry a congressional aide he was having an affair with.

    Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

    Bill Janklow, former S. Dakota Governor and Congressman, arrested for drunk driving, disorderly conduct, assaulting an officer, and indecent exposure in 1974. Pardoned his son-in-law for multiple drunk driving convictions in 2002. Resigned congressional seat due to a felony manslaughter conviction in a reckless driving incident (running a stop sign at 70 mph)in 2003 that resulted in the death of farmer, Vietnam veteran, and motorcyclist Randy Scott, 55, of Hardwick, Minnesota. Janklow served 100 days of a possible 11-year sentence. Janklow sought and received immunity from civil damages on the grounds that he was traveling on business related to his role as a congressman when the killing of Scott occurred. Janklow also petitioned to get back (and was granted) his license to practice law in the state of South Dakota.

    Bernard Kerik, had two simultaneous adulterous affairs.

    Earl Kimmerling, from Indiana, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Anderson, IN, Mayor Mark Lawler and Republican State Reps. Jack Lutz of Anderson, IN, and Woody Burton of Greenwood, IN, supported him.

    Randy Steven Kraft Republican serial killer convicted of 16 murders and suspected of at least 51 others.

    Lewis Libby, former Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. In 1996 published a novel containing bizarre sexual content, including bestiality and pedophilia.Full Details (Oh yeah, and he’s also been indicted on obstruction of justice, perjury and making false statements, charges adding up to 10 years in prison.)

    Rush Limbaugh, triple-divorcee, 30-pill a day drug addict.

    Bob Livingston, former Congressman (R-La.), Speaker of the House; resigned from the House in the wake of revelations about his past adultery — at the same time he was leading calls for impeachment of President Clinton.

    Donald Lukens, Former Ohio Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor – a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. Also convicted of taking $15,000 in bribes from the operators of a trade school while he was a congressman. A U.S. District Court jury in Washington deliberated for just one hour before reaching the verdict.

    Pat McPherson, Douglas County, Nebraska Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl.

    Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.

    Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.”

    Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist from Cape May County, NJ, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

    Sue Myrick, Congresswoman (R-NC), describes herself as a “devout Christian.” Committed adultery with a married man.

    Bill O’Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for sexual harrassment by his producer. The suit included graphic details, including tape-recordings. O’Reilly’s wife was pregnant at the time. O’Reilly settled and paid millions of dollars rather than have the details become public.

    Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment.

    Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman from Sparta, NJ, was arrested for distributing what experts call “some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world” – a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

    Brent Parker Utah State Representative. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute.

    John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.

    Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge from Monroe County, PA, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

    John Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa), accused of sexual harassment and creation of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a crime, saying only “I may have been an excessive hugger.”

    Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.

    Ronald Reagan First president to be divorced (from a woman who had been married two or three times before him – the record is unclear, none of which seems to bother the religious right).

    George Roche III, carried on a 19 year affair with his son’s wife, while serving as president of Hillsdale College in Michigan, which “emphasizes the importance of the common moral truths that bind all Americans, while recognizing the importance of religion for the maintenance of a free society.”

    Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition as well as a member of the South Carolina Republican Party’s executive committee, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children.

    Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured his wife, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others watched.

    Rick Santorum, used $100,000 of PA state funds earmarked for that state’s school children to educate his own children, who were not residents of Pennsylvania.

    Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman from Pensacola, Florida, currently a conservative talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner, who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an autopsy report, and suspended in Florida for six years, ruled the case an accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said he lied about them because “The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury.”

    Ed Schrock, two-term Republican Congressman from Virginia, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

    Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, but estranged from her mother; opposes birth control, but has had her tubes tied; espouses saving oneself for marriage, but admits to having had sex before she was married; opposes adultery, but has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man; opposes divorce, but is divorced and remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online.

    Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado State Representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De’Nyle (Stephany Schwarz).

    Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican governor, had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28. Numerous allegations of gropings, harassment, in California.

    John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children.

    Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives representing the 10th Congressional District of Pennsylvania. Eventually admitted to an affair with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her.

    Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant and former head of the South Bay, CA, Republican Club, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

    Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman from Wrightsville, PA, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

    Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s.

    Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in “family values”, as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit against Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times.

    Roger Stone, Republican dirty-tricks operative, led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount; advisor for Bob Dole and Arlen Specter’s Presidential campaigns, owner of Washington, D.C.-based Ikon Public Affairs. Place X-rated ads for group sex with his wife, Nydia. Claimed he was framed, even though the ads were placed with his credit card and used his P.O. Box.

    Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon “I’m trying to find the correct name for it … this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. … I’ve never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I’m gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I’m gonna kill him and tell God he died.” Had an affair with a prostitute.

    David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner from Ohio, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

    Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage – she is no longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church after committing adultery.

    Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas’ war chest.

    Strom Thurmond, Republican Senator from South Carolina and racist, impregnated a 15-year old African American maid.

    Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

    Robert Waltrip, Bush campaign contributor. Runs a funeral company which had to settle a lawsuit because bodies were being dug up and dumped in the woods. According to Fox News, Waltrip’s company, a cemetery company called Service Corporation International (also known as Dignity Memorial) was “recycling” graves, removing the bodies that were there originally and throwing them in the woods to use the space to house new customers at two Jewish cemeteries in Florida. George W. Bush, who had met with Waltrip, was subpoenaed but refused to testify in the case.

    J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of “moral values.” Has out-of-wedlock children.

    Jim West, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy.

    Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

    Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy in West Chester, PA, for permission to perform oral sex on him.

    So, they were saying something about “morals” and “values”?!?!?
    posted by CiTiZeN pAiN at 8/01/2006 12:38:00 PM

    1 Comments:

  • No military experience = zero understanding of vet issues???
    so
    No medical degree = no understanding of medical issues
    No female body parts = no understanding of womens issues
    no farm experience = no understanding of farm issues
    no skin color = no understanding of other cultures
    no law degree = no understanding of the law
    no college degree = no understanding of intelligent issues
    no presidential experience = zero understanding of the office so… we need to keep the same imbecile in office that is there right now!

  • By “literally,” McCain of course meant “figuratively.” And by “figuratively every veteran’s organization in America,” he of course meant, “every veteran’s organization in America that’s given me their highest rating.”

  • Mitch McConnel was in the Army reserve for 6 months. I can’t find it now, but somewhere I remember reading that he was accused of fondling other recruits in the showers, and that this is the reason he is widely suspected of being gay.

    I’ve heard from a fairly well-connected source that McConnell is going to have a Larry Craig Moment sometime this summer. I’d normally discount the rumor, but this source called the original LCM about six months before it happened, so I’m inclined to believe.

  • I am a veteran and I think that President (to be) McCain is spot on with his position on the issue. The current benefit is very generous and to give this bonus to everyone is too generous for all military. To make it fair, they could limit this additional benefit (paying for all 4 years of school) to only those who have been deployed to a war zone for more than 30 days. The reality is that the majority of people in the military are not serving in the war zone (Can you say Navy?) or at a stateside posting with little threat of being deployed. Why should we give them the same benefit as our actual combat vets? There is no blank check and the democrats would like to write checks to everyone but who is going to pay the bills in the end? Our grandchildren?

  • There is no blank check and the democrats would like to write checks to everyone but who is going to pay the bills in the end? Our grandchildren?

    If you want to talk about running up debt for our grandchildren, check out the budget deficits and national debt run up under Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. Then come around and talk about Democrats. Until then, you might want to learn the facts.

    The GI Bill is one of the great accomplishments of the United States government. It made us what we became after world War II, with the best educated workforce in the world.

    And if you are saying sailors shouldn’t qualify, you are full of shit.

  • To add to the list: Veterans of Foreign Wars — usually a reliable Repub-propping org — is not very happy with MyCane, either.

    And Jason, @21,
    Our grandchildren will be working, for years, in Chinese factories, paying off the debt for Bush’s little I-wreck misadventure (occupation), whether or not we shave off a few bucks on veterans’ healthcare.

  • Please, please, please don’t lets find out that Mitch McConnell is gay. As a bisexual man, I’m sick of having the sleasiest Republicans (Craig, Dreier) and ministers turn out to be gay. And McConnell is, to me, the worst. I may hate other Republicans, but McConnell — like Cheney and Coburn — causes an instinctual revulsion. Let him prove to be eternally straight, let them have him.

    PLEASE!

  • McCain is a traitor to every person serving in the military and he is a traitor to all us here in Az. as well. The man doesn’t deserve to be a senator let alona the president. He should be impeached for failure yo uphold his duties to the state he is supposed to represent.

  • To me it looks like Sen. McCain, with his 100% free college education from the Naval Academy and generous disability pay that he receives to this day is saying “I got mine; to hell with you grunts.”

    We have abused our military terribly in the last five years, and they deserve these benefits!

  • Jason #21:

    Ten year Navy vet over here. Feel free to plant your lips upon my derrière.

    At least the Army and Air Force get 100% T.A. while on active duty. Department of the Navy gets 100% T.A. as well – for 12 credits per year. The rest of it? They told me, “Use your GI Bill benefits while on active duty.” Trouble was that while on active duty I received only 2/3 the amount I would have if I were to have gotten out, despite paying the $1200 plus the kicker PLUS getting the Navy College Fund. I did finish my B.A. at about the same time I separated. The rest of that GI Bill and NCF is going to pay for a hefty chunk of a Master’s so I can continue as a G.S. the work I started as a blue shirt. I’ll still have to pay for a good portion of it out of pocket, though.

  • I’m quite surprised no one has discovered the reason McCentury does not support the new G.I. Bill. Simply put, it subsidizes education for the working class. A majot tenet of the conservative movement is to have a constant stream of cheap & ignorant labor. This is why we had slaves, and why they were punished for reading, this is why they are always opposed to increasing the minimum wage, this is why they have this love / hate affair with immigration labor. They all love the cheap and neverending supply but just hate to see so many non-English speaking people.

    Education is a great equalizer, it enables all sorts of people to become more open-minded and thus less closed minded like they are. Another constant conservative theme is to close the Dept. of Education. The last thing they want is millions of smart, open-minded, Americans quite capable of making decisions on their own rather than being led by the Party of Greed.

    The new G.I. Bill is a great step toward empowering people to become leaders. There are 2 classes of people on this earth in the Republican view; the ruling class and those that are ruled. If this isn’t evident by now it never will be.

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