McCain picking up Bush’s worst habits, stacks town-hall forum

To hear his campaign tell it, John McCain is in his element when he hosts town-hall forums. Give him a podium and a teleprompter, and he’s lost. Give him a microphone and a floor, and he’s fine.

With that in mind, McCain, hoping to erase some of the lingering memories of last week’s speech debacle in Louisiana last Tuesday, hosted a forum in NYC last night. According to media accounts (I did not watch the event), McCain emphasized a bipartisan worldview: “We’ve gotta put our country first and not our party first and too many people have that reversed,” he said, garnering applause.

It’s curious, then, that McCain apparently tried to pack the audience with sympathetic allies.

For those of you who can’t watch clips online, Fox News’ Shepard Smith told viewers as the event was wrapping up, “I reported at the top of this hour that the campaign had told us at Fox News that the audience would be made up of Republicans, Democrats, and independents. We have now received a clarification from the campaign and I feel I should pass it along to you. The McCain campaign distributed tickets to supporters, Mayor Bloomberg, who of course is a registered Republican, and other independent groups.”*

Watching the event, Oliver Willis noted, “Right now John McCain is doing a ‘town hall’ meeting being broadcast by Fox News (The Official Network of McCain ’08, Home Of The Terrorist Fist Bump) and it’s a mighty amazing trick the McCain camp is pulling. Somehow they’ve gone to the most diverse city in America (New York City) and are seemingly unable to find minorities willing to attend.”

And now we know why.

This may seem like a simple “gotcha” moment, but I can’t help but wonder if this may have a more lasting significance.

First, it gives Dems a chance to highlight just how similar this is to the least-popular president in modern times.

DNC Chairman Howard Dean issued the following statement:

“Once again John McCain’s campaign is trying to mislead the American people. Senator McCain should understand that after seven years of a President who has divided Americans and pursued a scorched earth policy full of misleading propaganda campaigns, we need a leader who understands he is the President for all Americans not just his supporters. Copying the Bush campaign model of stacking events with his prescreened supporters is not the transparency Americans are looking for. If that is Senator McCain’s idea of straight talk, the American people are in for a long and disappointing campaign season.”

Quite right. If there’s one thing we’ve learned from Bush’s “Bubble” policies, it’s that the president loves town-hall forums, just so long as he can pick the audience. If McCain is pulling similar stunts, and FNC’s Shepard Smith made it sound as if he is, we have yet another example of McCain following in Bush’s footsteps.

And second, I wonder if this might also offer the Obama campaign a chance to steer clear of McCain’s invitations for joint town-hall events.

The event was originally intended to be a joint appearance with Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Although his opponent declined the invitation, McCain forged ahead making only a nod to Obama’s absence.

“Probably would’ve been a little more interesting tonight if Sen. Obama would’ve accepted my request to join in the meeting,” McCain joked.

If I’m the Obama campaign this morning, I’m thinking, “Why would we want to participate in joint events if McCain operates in bad faith?”

* Update: Commenters are right to note that FNC’s Smith is mistaken about Bloomberg, who was a registered Republican, but then switched to being an independent.

In this light, Smith’s “clarification” seems to need some additional clarification. He went out of his way to say that what the McCain campaign told Fox News about the event’s audience wasn’t accurate, but upon reflection, Smith didn’t go particularly far in explaining the extent of its inaccuracy. If I can get further details on this, I’ll update again.

Or:

Obama could wade into the lion’s den and win over McCain’s hand-picked supporters by virtue of being the smarter, more dynamic candidate.

Then what would McCain’s campaign do?

  • The difference between then and now: Now we jump all over this stuff and don’t let it pass. Good for Dean for immediately issuing this statement.

    This was an easy one, given that virtually everyone knows that Bush wouldn’t/won’t venture out of his safe zone. Either McCain Inc. didn’t foresee getting called on doing the same thing, or they knew the danger of an unstacked audience was so great to McCain that they thought it was worth the risk.

  • Next up: Holding pens for the dissenters.

    I’d sure be interested to know the nature of those “Independent groups,” but I feel slightly amazed that Camp McGramp’s admitted they were playing with a stacked deck. I guess that qualifies as straight talk. For a GOPer.

    Then what would McCain’s campaign do?

    Claim Obama used a Muslim Mind Trick to hypnotize the audience.

  • It’s pretty apparent that John McCain is comfortable speaking only to small groups of his supporters who overlook his unfortunately thoughtless statements and lightning-switches on his various positions.

    I’d really rather see actual debates on the issues between the two with a skilled non-partisan moderator and an unstacked audience. I think we’d get much more substantive information in that kind of forum.

  • Hmmmm. Was FOX news really “duped” by the McCorpse campaign, or did they know all along that the audience would be hand-picked and would feature no “unfriendlies”?? Hmmmm. You don’t suppose that FOX just gave him an hour of free prime-time advertising do you? Remember when Gen. Patreus got his own infomercial with Brit “I can’t believe how succesful the surge is” Hume??

  • aristede (4)actual debates on the issues between the two with a skilled non-partisan moderator and an unstacked audience

    And unlike 2000 or 2004, I think Obama is in a position to demand that.

    Meanwhile I am imagining Obama at the above meeting with police outside dragging away someone with an Obama sticker on his tee shirt.

  • What this all brings to my mind is the Orwellian “Free Speach Zones” that have been used for many campaign events in the recent past … I believe by both parties. Is this bizarre practice going to continue?

    You are welcome to your little protest as long as you do it over there behind the fence, away from the prying eyes of the press.

  • Although I would never be invited to such a gathering, My question to McBush would be three fold:

    “Senator McCain do you believe your being tortured was effective way of getting information out of you?” Explain”

    “Next, do you think torture is a valuable tool in the war on terror?”

    “Lastly, why would a person who, like yourself, has been tortured would ever vote to legalize that format for use on our enemies?”

  • Or, Senator how do you plan to use the money you save under your proposed tax cuts?

  • Danp said: “Or, Senator how do you plan to use the money you save under your proposed tax cuts?”

    Actually, since all his assets are hidden under his wife’s name.

    Senator, how does your multi-millionaire wife plan to spend all the money she will save under your proposed tax cuts?

  • heck, I’d like a couple of televised debates without an audience at all. I think McCain’s odds of gong off on a tangent are greater if fewer people are around. Having an audience would remind him to be on his best behavior.

  • “The McCain campaign distributed tickets to supporters, Mayor Bloomberg, who of course is a registered Republican.”

    Uh, Shep? Watched any news in the past year?

    (BTW, I figured I’d link to FNC reporting on that story and make a joke about Shep failing to watch his own network. But when I Googled it, I found lots of links to other news organizations reporting on Bloomberg’s decision, but none from Fox News. So maybe they still haven’t caught on.)

  • Lance (11), and of course, McCain’s answer would be to give it to charity, which is apparently what he does with his income. But the follow up question is then, “Is that how a president leads by example? Giving to charities, while reducing programs like SCHIP?”

  • Henry (Re #1) –
    Nice thought, but you have obviously never had an encounter with a cult member. And that’s how I would describe most Republicans right now, because there are not that many billionaires or millionaires (the only people benefitting from the current policies).
    Any non-rich Republican is in serious denial of reality, a hallmark of cult membership. As good as he is, I doubt that Obama could slice through the warming cocoon of non-realistic beliefs that these people hold.

  • I think everyone should go to the website ‘Vietnam veterans against McCain’ it has a lot of information that has long been known, but the media will not talk about it. If they are going to smear Obama perhaps we should do the same to McCain. As for smearing Michell Obama, it has been suggested in the past that Cindy McCain has some kind of mental problems, also stealing drugs from a charity, and of course committing adfultery with McCain while he was married to his wife. JS

  • Zorro makes a good point. Bloomberg is not a registered Republican, and I just don’t see how it follows from the fact that tickets were distributed to Bloomberg and “independent groups” that the audience was comprised of pre-screened McCain supporters. If you can prove that, CB, you’ve got a story, but this frankly seems pretty weak at the moment.

  • JRD (17): I think the part you are missing is that the McCain campaign told Fox it would be a mixed group, and that Shep Smith of FOX concluded afterwards that it was not. You can still challenge what Smith actually knew, but I think this falls under the category of “utterance against personal interest.”

  • Danp– Maybe, but my point is that I don’t see how the subsequent “clarification” undermines the original assertion that it was a mixed group, unless we assume that Bloomberg and the unnamed independent groups distributed tickets only to Republicans. I just don’t see any reason to make that assumption on the basis of the facts stated here. What were the independent groups? Who did they distribute tickets to? Who did Bloomberg give tickets to? How did Bloomberg and the independent groups decide how to distribute tickets? Is Bloomberg a McCain supporter? He’s made a number of friendly statements to Obama and if I recall correctly met with him for breakfast in NYC a few months ago. Again, maybe there’s a story here, but I just don’t see that the facts are sufficiently developed to make a determination.

  • BuzzMon – I give you free rights to use my mantra (which I ‘borrowed’ from someone else) and pass it on as widely as possible – There’s only 2 kinds of Publicans – millionaires and suckers. The bad grammar helps the ‘suckers’ to hear it better…

    JRD – I have to agree with Danp that the story is in the clarification. Why did the reporter find it necessary to offer up that information at the end of the event?

  • JS:
    You say “If they are going to smear Obama perhaps we should do the same to McCain. As for smearing Michell Obama, it has been suggested in the past that Cindy McCain …”

    You really don’t understand Obama, do you? (I have the feeling I’m going to have to say this so often people will get sick of hearing me.)

    The point is that, first, by ‘responding in kind’ Obama would ratify the use of personal attacks in the campaign. Have you been asleep these last few months? How many times did Obama say “Lewinsky” or “Lincoln Bedroom” or “Rich pardon” in response to Hillary’s attacks? (And just imagine how thinking about the fund-raising use of the Lincoln bedroom must have pained him.)

    He didn’t, he didn’t need to, and by not doing so, he made Hillary — and her supporters — look bad by their tactics. (Interestingly enough, though, the only bloggers he mentions on his ‘fight the smears’ website are Hillary supporters — or claim to be — not Republicans.)

    Second, whatever Cindy McCain’s personal problems may be, whatever the story of McCain’s remarriage was, these things are totally irrelevant to John McCain’s fitness to be President. (Didn’t we argue, rightly, precisely this about Monica?) There are some ‘personal problems’ — particularly his age, health, and mental alertness — that do impact on this, but even those don’t need to be mentioned by Obama’s campaign. People are smart enough to see this on their own.

    Finally, Obama is not just on the right side of almost every issue, he’s on the popular side. The more the campaigns focus on real issues, the stronger he is. Why should he want to ‘go off message’ — or permit his supporters to do so — when he only loses by doing so?

  • Better yet would be a joint town hall with half of the audience picked by each candidate. I’m sure that Obama would easily be able to handle the McLame crowd, and the Obama supporters would be polite but ask some tough questions (as they’ve done in Obama town halls I’ve been to/read about). Those tough questions would stump McLame. And maybe he’d lose his temper, or appear foolish at the least.

    Sounds good to me.

  • Prup, taking the high ground aside, if the media starts making crass inquiries into Michelle Obama’s life, I see nothing wrong with at LEAST ASKING THE QUESTION of whether or not they will do the same thing with Cindy McCain, being that there is SO much documented about her personal life that COULD be questioned.

    In other words, if the media is going to leave wives alone, awesome. But if they’re going to shine a light on Michelle, Cindy should get the same sort of scrutiny.

    I don’t think it makes a lick of difference either, but if anyone’s going to make up sh!t about Michelle to imply she makes Barack unfit to be President, then what does that make an adulterous pill-popper who stole from a charity she chaired?

    Just saying…

  • To McCan’t a mixed audience is one where half are Republican’ts who say they will vote for McCan’t…
    … and half are Republican’ts who say they won’t.

  • “Probably would’ve been a little more interesting tonight if Sen. Obama would’ve accepted my request to join in the meeting,” McCain joked.

    I can’t wait to have a *literate* president for a change… This should have been: Probably would have been a little more interesting tonight if Senator Obama had accepted (or: had Senator Obama accepted)…

    As for Shep Smith’s “[…]the campaign had told us at Fox News that the audience would be made up of Republicans, Democrats, and independents.”, the campaign had told nothing but the truth. They sent a ticket to Mayor Bloomberg, didn’t they? That’s a Dem, a Repub and an Indie right there..

  • You know, it has really amazed me how many people did not know (and *still* do not know) that Bush had Republican-only town hall meetings. SO Republican-only that people who showed up with Kerry buttons on or with “No War” signs were thrown out, arrested, and even strip searched. What the hell? And now McCain is trying this sh*t?

    Really, it doesn’t surprise me. You really can fool some of the people some of the time. But knowing that McCain will cheat against Obama who won’t…kind of worries me. The Obama campaign has to (HAS TO) make clear that their reluctance to attend is based on McCain’s willingness to cheat. Hammer that point home for a couple of weeks, and let McCain’s camp try to explain their way out of it. Circulate an ad comparing Bush and McCain on this issue – featuring one of the papers folks had to sign pledging support of Bush in order to attend his TH meetings. Then when the McCain camp fires back with “People came who were invited!” use that as the end frame of the ad and ask “As a citizen of these United States, do you think *you* will be invited?”

    No need to cheat like McCain – just help them stretch their own cheat around far enough that it will bit them on the ass.

  • Obamba is in no position to demand anything. He’s merely the afirmative action candidate for the Surrender Party. He is perfect for the part, inexperienced, connected with terrorists, criminals, black liberation churches, Syria, FARC, Hamas and Louis Farrakan. The lowlife D’rats have chosen progressively worse candidates throughout the last century. This one is not even an American.

    Say what you will, Surrender Monkeys, Barak Hussein Obamba is unfit to preside as Commander in Chief. Juan McCain isn’t much but he is twice the man the con- artist Bari, the Marxist puppet will ever be.

  • Well said Zeke Eagle. Barack Hussein Obama is indeed unfit to lead this nation. Shame on those who prop him up as the Second Coming!!!!

  • Well put ZE!

    BHO will be a DISASTER if elected.! God have mercy on us all if this anti-American and his America hating wife reside in the White house. It will be like nothing we have seen before.

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