McCain sees detainee ruling as ‘one of the worst decisions in the history of this country’

The Supreme Court ruled yesterday, in a narrow 5-4 decision, to extend access to the federal courts to detainees at Guantanamo Bay. When reporters asked John McCain for his reaction a few hours later, he struck a disappointed note, but seemed pretty level-headed about the case. “[I]t is a decision that the Supreme Court has made,” McCain said. “Now we need to move forward. As you know I always favored closing Guantanamo Bay and I still think we ought to do that.”

That McCain did not share the right’s apoplexy over the ruling was not especially surprising — his record is that of someone not entirely comfortable with the Bush administration’s detainee policy. Indeed, in 2003, McCain blasted the administration’s notion of indefinite detentions and publicly challenged the Pentagon (specifically, Rumsfeld) to resolve the matter by either processing the detainees as war criminals or returning them to their home countries for trials. Shortly thereafter, McCain added that the detainees “have rights under various human rights declarations,” one of which is “the right not to be detained indefinitely.”

The Bush administration ignored McCain’s advice, and the two-year detentions McCain was worried about have since become six- and seven-year detentions. It makes sense, then, that McCain struck a moderate tone yesterday.

Apparently, though, moderation didn’t poll well overnight. Today, McCain quickly embraced the far-right line and denounced the ruling in the strongest of terms.

John McCain weighed in on the U.S. Supreme Court decision on the rights of Guantanamo Bay prisoners to challenge their detention in U.S. courts at a town hall meeting Friday, calling the 5-4 decision “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

McCain said he that while he has been a vocal opponent of torture and advocated closing Guantanamo, he does not believe prisoners deserve the same rights as U.S. citizens.

“These are enemy combatants, these are people who are not citizens, they are not and never have been given the rights that the citizens of this country have,” he said. “Our first obligation is the safety and security of this nation and the men and women who defend it.”

Remember the good ol’ days? Before John McCain became a shameless hack? Good times, good times.

Boumediene is not “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” McCain must know this, but the ruling seems to be inspiring all kinds of right-wing hyperbole. Did you catch what Scalia wrote in his dissent?

“The game of bait-and-switch that today’s opinion plays upon the Nation’s Commander in Chief will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed. The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today.”

For a less unhinged perspective, there are plenty of great analyses of the court’s ruling, but as always, I’m partial to Dahlia Lithwick’s take.

This raises the question of what Scalia would do with these prisoners, many of whom have been held for six years without charges. If they can’t reasonably be tried or released, it must be a great comfort to believe that they are all killers and terrorists, and no further proof is needed.

The claim that the majority handed Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the others at Guantanamo the keys to the cells is absurd on its face. As Justice Kennedy is careful to point out in his majority opinion, the court is not ordering the release of any detainees; it is restoring their fundamental right to a habeas proceeding before a neutral fact-finder. The court did not get to the question of whether the president has authority to detain these petitioners. Nor did it actually grant anyone a writ. The majority did not strike down the MCA or find the military trials the Bush administration established to be unconstitutional. The court merely said that the petitioners are entitled to some reasonable approximation of a habeas corpus proceeding, and that the jumped-up pretrial hearings known as Combatant Status Review Tribunals just don’t substitute. Chief Justice John Roberts may insist that these tribunals represent everything a prisoner could ever wish for in the way of due process rights. But Justice Kennedy points out that the detainees’ lack of a real lawyer and their inability to rebut the charges against them make for a process that is, by definition, “closed and accusatorial” and thus open to “considerable risk of error.” (Not to mention that if a CSRT finds that you’re NOT an enemy combatant, they can just order a do-over!) Such error may result in a lifetime of detention. The majority isn’t persuaded the risk is worth it. Wrote Kennedy: “Given that the consequence of error may be detention of persons for the duration of hostilities that may last a generation or more, this is a risk too significant too ignore.”

And in the end, this is the fight between the majority and the dissent: Kennedy and the justices who signed his opinion (David Souter, John Paul Stevens, Stephen Breyer, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg) are worried about the very real risk of a lifetime of mistaken imprisonment. And the dissenters (Scalia, Roberts, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito) are worried about the risk of … what? Not an actual mistaken release, but a day in court. The big threat here is of federal court review that may — somewhere far down the line, and at the moment entirely hypothetically — result in the release of a detainee or (more attenuated still) the disclosure of a piece of hypothetical information that could help the terrorists in their fight against us. […]

In the event that one of the prisoners who has suffered years of abuse and mistreatment at Guantanamo is someday actually released following a federal habeas proceeding and blows something up, Scalia wants to be able to point at Justice Kennedy as the man who let him go. Or if in the course of a someday trial, a piece of evidence is leaked that somehow strengthens a terrorist group, he can blame Kennedy for his blind faith in the federal courts. The dissenters here are unwilling to bear the risk that any of the 270 men at Guantanamo — among them people who were grabbed as teens and others who claim actual innocence — go free. And, indeed, reasonable people can disagree about whether that risk is too much to bear. But Scalia and his dissenting friends today made clear that this is not the risk to which they most object. What they cannot accept is the risk that their brothers and sisters on the federal bench — with decades of judicial experience and the Constitution to light their way — might now do what they are trained to do: hear cases.

That McCain would consider this “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country,” suggests he’s truly gone — and he’s not coming back.

Three little words here:

Just like Bush.

  • I’m confused – the detainees are not called POW’s because then they would fall under the Geneva Convention, so Bush renamed them enemy combatants. Yet isn’t it the designation of enemy combatant that gives them rights?

  • Scalia, Roberts, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito

    Since John Edwards has pointed out that there are two Americas, it’s time for us to have two Supreme Courts. The above group should now be referred to as Supreme Kangaroo Court.

  • I find it somewhat amazing that the Supreme Court felt it was important to ensure these prisoners habeus corpus, given that some of them might be released and commit further acts of terrorism, while at the same time felt it necessary to deny 90-year-old nuns the right to vote because someone *might* try to commit voter fraud. The logic is the same, why should the decisions be different?

    Am I the only one who made this connection? Is it too much of a stretch?

  • “Our first obligation is the safety and security of this nation and the men and women who defend it.” – John McCain

    Funny, I thought the first obligation of federal public servants was to “…preserve, protect and defend the Constitution…”

    My mistake.

  • Not being a constitutional attorney, I can’t comment on the legal aspects of the case. From a broader, human rights viewpoint, I think it’s fair to say that the court’s decision is morally correct and that McCain is an immoral idiot just like Bush.

  • McCain and Bush love war, McCain and Bush love trashing our Bill of Rights, McCain and Bush love trashing our Constitution. McCain and Bush love the rule of fascist, authoritarian bullies and thugs.

  • I’m amazed that it is even in debate that those we have imprisoned do not have the right to see or have presented to them the evidence as to why they are being held or a chance to prove their innocence. All the SC decision did was give these “accused” a day in court. How dare McCain just assume they are all guilty without any proof or evidence…just because so and so said so in order to get the $5000 reward. McCain does not believe in justice? And this bullshit about him being against torture etc is crap. He knew his grandstanding would produce no effects so it was safe for him to do it. He said nothing to Bush issuing signing statements to allow him to torture or detain anyone he wished.

    He’s conned the press with barbecues and “inside” info and contacts (“the Politico brought my mom flowers”), just the relationship an objective press should have, otherwise the press should be harping on how delusional this phony really is. McCain is essentially saying If they look Islamic then they must be guilty. I am so ashamed that this country that stands for justice should have an administration who has reduced the rule of law to accusation and kingly disposition.

    “…“These are enemy combatants, these are people who are not citizens, they are not and never have been given the rights that the citizens of this country have,” …”

    Without proof and without evidence, John McCain has determined they are all guilty even though the US paid $5000 reward for each one turned in…McCain has decided. Yet those relatives of OBL having refreshments with the Sr. Bush on 9/11 were given safe passage without question. What shameful hypocrisy McCain represents.

  • I have to admit I am more disappointed with McCain than I ever thought I could be. I was seriously worried in 2000 that he might win the Republican nomination and I would have to make a real choice. Not so much that I loved McCain as I was decidedly cool toward Gore. In the intervening 8 years one has grown and the other is a shriveled husk of what he might once have been.

    The problem here is that McCain has the best perspective on what’s at stake here, having spent five years in lock-up as an enemy combatant. That he could take the stand he now takes is astounding. It illustrates that there are no depths too deep for him to plumb in his quest for the prize. He is as ammoral as a politician can get.

    In terms of the decision, while Scalia’s and Robert’s dissents are getting a lot of play, almost as much as Kennedy’s opinion for the court, I haven’t seen any mention of Souter’s concurring opinion, where he answers the dissents. I particularly like this passage:

    It is in fact the very lapse of four years from the time Rasul put everyone on notice that habeas process was available to Guantanamo prisoners, and the lapse of six years since some of these prisoners were captured and incarcerated, that stand at odds with the repeated suggestions of the dissenters that these cases should be seen as a judicial victory in a contest for power between the Court and the political branches. The several answers to the charge of triumphal-ism might start with a basic fact of Anglo-American constitutional history: that the power, first of the Crown and now of the Executive Branch of the United States, is necessarily limited by habeas corpus jurisdiction to enquire into the legality of executive detention. And one could explain that in this Court’s exercise of responsibility to preserve habeas corpus something much more significant is involved than pulling and hauling between the judicial and political branches. Instead, though, it is enough to repeat that some of these petitioners have spent six years behind bars. After six years of sustained executive detentions in Guantanamo, subject to habeas jurisdiction but without any actual habeas scrutiny, today’s decision is no judicial victory, but an act of perseverance in trying to make habeas review, and the obligation of the courts to provide it, mean something of value both to prisoners and to the Nation.

  • Wave those flip-flops Johnny, I’ll just be over here collecting the contradictory video…

  • There is a large group of people in this country who truly hope the United States becomes a dictatorship.

  • Apparently, though, moderation didn’t poll well overnight. Today, McCain quickly embraced the far-right line and denounced the ruling in the strongest of terms.

    Is it just me or does this campaign season seem fundamentally different than previous ones? Previously, the conventional wisdom was that politicians ran to the fringes of their party to win the nomination, and then ran to the center to win the general election. Seems like the exact opposite this time, especially for McCain. Odd…

  • Worse than Dred Scott? Wow, that’s taking an extreme stand.

    Here’s why I think the right will lose on this: Americans like to believe themselves great champions of fair play. Someone asking to have a court review his detention is just asking for that fair play — literally, for his day in court. I think that resonates with people. We’ll see if it can overcome irresponsible phrases like “giving them the rights of US citizens” and “freeing terrorists” and of course “one of the worst decisions in the nation’s history”…

  • WHY SHOULD ENEMIES OF AMERICA (NON CITIZENS OF AMERICA) BE PROTECTED UNDER THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION WHEN THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS OF AMERICA??? WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?

  • BERNARD YOU ARE A RETARD. IF A NON CITIZEN ENEMY KILLED YOUR MOTHER, WHAT KIND OF FAIR PLAY WOULD YOU GRANT THEM? WHAT A BUNCH OF WUSSY APPEASERS WE HAVE HERE. KILL THEM ALL BEFORE THEY KILL YOU AND BELIEVE ME… GIVEN THE CHANCE, THEY WILL KILL YOU AND EVERY OTHER RETARD YOU KNOW.

  • The reaction from McCain is so thoroughly unamerican as to be offensive. Listen to his words: “they are not and never have been given the rights that the citizens of this country have”. As eloquently pointed out here, citizens, and in fact all persons, are not “given” rights at all. They are inalienable, remember? Protecting these rights (see: “securing the blessings of liberty”) is the fundamental goal of our system of government and if we do not have these rights, we have nothing. The mind boggles at the inconsistency of inalienable rights for some and not for others, bOB.

  • well, we can always fall back on the famous sentiment: “Give me security, or give me death!”

    wait…what?

  • Shorter McCain, Bush and the right-wing Fearbots: Innocent people don’t get charged — these people are guilty, I say! Screw the courts, just gimme a noose and I’ll give you justice.

  • Worse than Dred Scott? Wow, that’s taking an extreme stand.

    These people don’t really have a problem with Dred Scott….

  • bOB said:
    WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?

    Uh, that we’re supposed to be the good guys…ya know example to the world…light of liberty…no?!?

  • Davis @ 20:

    I was going to suggest a functioning neurological synapse; it’s usually prerequisite for using the shift key. Besides—maybe the “non-citizen enemy” is actually after “bOB” for the obvious crime against humanity of “cruel and unusual treatment of the caps-lock key.”

    What was that old saying—something about “the enemy of my enemy…?”

  • “That McCain would consider this “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country,” suggests he’s truly gone — and he’s not coming back.”

    Bye bye, McCain! *waving emphatically*

  • While I AGREE with today’s majority opinion that “all enemy combatants detained during a war, at least insofar as they are confined in an area away from the battlefield, [but] over which the United States exercises ‘absolute and indefinite’ control, may seek a writ of habeas corpus in federal court,” I also AGREE with Chief Justice Roberts (and his fellow dissenters) that the Writ can be suspended in time of war, such as the war on terror that we find ourselves involved in right now, and that suspension power belongs to Congress, such as Congress has exercised in this case, “as the Constitution surely allows Congress to [wield].”

    I guess one can REASONABLY conclude that the Court’s Majority knew where they wanted to end up, and proceeded to get there, however s-l-o-w-l-y they weaved their way through precedential minefield!

    OsiSpeaks.com

  • So when and if we catch Bin Laden… he will get his day in an American court?
    WHAT A JOKE. KILL ALL THE RAGHEADS, TAKE THEIR FKN OIL AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT LET’S KILL ALL OF THE FAGOTS TOO. We are at a precipice of the destruction of this country and for whatever reason there are brainless idealogical twits who want to give the final push, they believe that they are so damn intelligent and just by wiping their own ass crack they are going to bring world peace to a globe of absolute chaos. Wake up fools before it is too late.

  • “The game of bait-and-switch that today’s opinion plays upon the Nation’s Commander in Chief will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed. The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today.”.

    “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free”– Ronald Reagan

    The patriot’s blood is the seed of Freedom’s tree. ~Thomas Campbell

    Sometimes, it isn’t just soldiers who will die for the sake of preserving freedom from a government that would watch our every move, control our every word, and dictate every action.

    If people must die at the hands of scoundrels so that we may remain free, must we allow cringing cowards to tell us we must live in fear? I shall wrest your lot from your clutching bosom and cast it with my own into the wind. We must be free together or be chained one by one.

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