About those ‘prominent’ Dems supporting McCain…

Looking ahead to November, there are just two angles to the campaign that worry me. One is the extent to which email-circulated smears will undermine support for Barack Obama. The other is the number of Dems — either because of ideology or spite — who’ll withhold support from the Democratic ticket. I suspect both groups will be fairly small, and neither will affect the outcome.

Nevertheless, I found it interesting that the McCain campaign hosted a conference call on Saturday as part of an outreach effort to non-Republicans. The campaign released a list of a “group of prominent Democratic and unaffiliated leaders and activists who have joined ‘Citizens for McCain,’ a new grass-roots effort headed by Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT) to rally Americans of all political parties to support John McCain’s candidacy.”

Ben Smith posted the entire list of 30, and to characterize them as “prominent” is a bit of a stretch. Only one of the thirty ever held federal office; there were no Dems who currently hold statewide office; some have never held elected office before; and one is a blogger. More than half are out-of-office local officials.

Nevertheless, these are ostensibly 30 “Democratic and unaffiliated leaders and activists” who’ve decided to throw their support to the conservative Republican candidate instead of the Democratic ticket. Cause for concern? Indicative of a larger trend?

My estimable friends at TPM, Greg Sargent and Eric Kleefeld, decided to take a closer look at the group. Oddly enough, they discovered that the list is “a bit of a sham.”

Wait, you mean Joe Lieberman and John McCain would create a phony organization/fundraising gimmick and then release a spurious list to generate some cheap publicity? I’m shocked. Just shocked.

It’s quite a motley crew of “Democrats,” many of whom have been voting for Republicans for quite a while now. One is an independent who endorsed Mitt Romney. Another is a Bush appointee in the Department of Agriculture. Another is a religious right activist who wrote a book accusing Democrats of becoming “the enemy of my religion.” Another publicly endorsed Bush in 2000 and 2004.

But here’s my favorite:

Perhaps the biggest stretch of all on the list is “former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Philip Frye.” It’s true that Frye did indeed seek the Democratic nomination for governor in 2004. But it’s less than surprising that he is opposing a Democrat now.

Here’s why he ran in the first place: Dem Gov. Bob Wise had been damaged after having been caught having an affair with Frye’s wife. (When Wise withdrew from the race, Frye’s star faded and he received less than one-percent of the vote.) To top it all off, Frye actually attacked Wise as a “typical Democrat” for having had an affair, so clearly he’s hardly a Dem in any meaningful sense.

And yet, this largely-anonymous guy has teamed up with Joe Lieberman and other “prominent Democratic” leaders to show their support for John McCain.

First, the McCain campaign seems to look increasingly ridiculous with each passing day.

Second, kudos to Greg and Eric for fact-checking the specious “Citizens for McCain” list.

There’s going to be a lot of blogospheric navel gazing about disloyal Dems, far disproportionate to their actual existence. With that in mind, a shout out to my sister in law, who will not get blogged about. She was a Hillary supporter who last week put an Obumper sticker on her van and got on with her *&#$ life.

  • Hey, you’re missing the big point here. The McCain campaign actually used Democratic rather than Democrat. That’s a big step forward … and probably cost him some rightwingnut votes.

  • Despite the fact that I am not A REPUBLICAN FOR OBAMA, nor will I ever be A REPUBLICAN FOR OBAMA, I have heard there are REPUBLICANS FOR OBAMA, and that my sister might be A REPUBLICAN FOR OBAMA.

  • Why don’t we list some former and current Republicans supporting Obama. like Clarke — or John Dean (who still worships Barry Goldwater)? I think our list would have a bit more weight than theirs.

  • Despite the fact that I am not A REPUBLICAN FOR OBAMA… -hab

    It’s because you’re a Democrat for Obama, right? Did I win a prize?

  • Let them have their scrawney, puny, or outright fake Democrats for McBush. I believe that there can be a number of compelling lists compiled for Sen. Obama. To start:
    Republicans for Obama
    Top Brass for Obama (retired General & Admirals)
    Intelligence for Obama (former intelligence officials)
    Economists for Obama

    Any other suggestions?

  • …the entire list of 30…

    Wow—it sounds like one of those Ghoul for Prez campaign events. Can we get photographs of these people? I know someone who works for a sports-card company. We could make little collection sets of these critters, and put one card inside each box of Cracker Jack. Or maybe some of those 110% sugar cereals that the Saturday morning cartoons peddle to the kiddies.

    “One free in every box of HyperCrunch! Collect them all!!!”

    Think of all the money.

    We could pay off the national debt. We could cure homelessness. We could rebuild New Orleans.

    We could buy China, fire the Chinese, and outsource all of their jobs (that used to be our jobs) back to the US.

  • I’m most worried about them convincing Americans not to vote for him because of his color and his name. There are many subtle, and not so subtle ways they can go about this.

  • Correction for Prup—

    Clark was never a Republican — didn’t join a party — and had stopped voting for them for president by the time of Bush, Sr.

  • Catherine (13) I think Prup might have been referring to Richard Clarke, who was a Rep.

  • Yuck, Danp, that “person” with the long hair and beard is the fellow we’re talking about?
    Frye?

    The Republicans can have him.

  • Releasing this list seems more of a joke than something important.

    I suppose they were expecting it to be repeated on the right-wing news without anyone looking at the names on the list.

  • We could make little collection sets of these critters, and put one card inside each box of Cracker Jack. Or maybe some of those 110% sugar cereals that the Saturday morning cartoons peddle to the kiddies. — Steve, @ 11

    If McCain got a few more — say, 52 all told — they could make it into a deck of cards (with Lieberman as a Joker) and add it to the golf gear at the website store.

    Danp, @14

    I have no idea who “uncle Itt” is or what he looks like but this guy looks like a medieval anchorite, just stuffed into a modern suit of clothes and, possibly, given a bath. No wonder his nickname is “Icky”…

  • I think the fact that this is headed by Lie-berman means that, by definition, this is not a grass roots organization.

  • Hey Busmon @10…how about adding these to your list. ……radical preachers for obamma….or…young atheists for obamma.. or planned parenthood for obamma…..or I know.. here is a shocker.. the ACLU ‘s for obamma…. hmmmm the list goes on..
    Bubba said that… the troll you all love to hate…

  • Due to the Republican-inspired economic conditions we now find ourselves mired, in, Hate has become a precious commodity, reserved for detestable individuals who have proven themselves worthy of hatred. Trolls are hereby demoted to the rank of pitiful creatures.

    Pass the itsy bitsy violin, please….

  • Since the ACLU has been one of the most positive and beneficial organizations in the country — and you might, before you slate them, take a look at the cases they have actually taken and the people they have defended, let’s list them. As for young atheists, well, this old atheist has been supporting Obama right along — but the more fervent and less tolerant atheists have taken a lot of convincing because of Obama’s strong religious faith. (Of all the other candidates in either party, only Huckabee and Paul aren’t, in reality, essentially secular. Huckabee is someone whose Christianity — and the good impulses that, for him, Christianity means — is continually at war with his Republicanism. As for Paul, the type of ‘Reconstructionist Christianity’ that he follows — remember that Gary North and Lew Rockwell were both on his staff — is even more obnoxious than the Hagee-Parsley brand.)

    As for radical preachers, compare Wright and Pfleger to Hagee, Parsley, Dobson, Perkins, and the others and then please show me which are the true ‘radicals.’

    The support of Planned Parenthood, like the ACLU’s, is a positive. Can you argue otherwise — that one would be fun to fight out.

    Bubba, you do a great job of hit-and-run trolling — and your sense of humor makes you bearable and even a bit likable — but are you capable of defending your positions? Now that things have calmed down a bit, I’ll be more than glad to actually debate any statement you make — the rest can just scroll past both of us.

  • I am not saying these are not legitimate contributors to your boy, I am just stating the obvioius…that they are..and depending on which side of the aisle you stand is what makes you proud or ashamed of somones work….. the grass is always browner on the other side… I really dont like debating politics…especially with the other side.. . I dont take this stuff all that serious.. I just have a good time playing the devils advocate and mentioning certain things as a reality check for you all who seem all rapped up in this crap….. ,,,,
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    .oh I want to add a couple of more obamma supporters to your list:
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    In an advertisement, Obama says, “I don’t take money from oil companies.”

    hmmmmm???????

    Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.
    Two of Obama’s bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.
    It’s true that Obama doesn’t take money directly from oil companies, but then, no presidential, House or Senate candidate does. They can’t: Corporations have been prohibited from contributing directly to federal candidates since the Tillman Act became law in 1907.

    thanks for the invite to argue,,, but I like my drive by style and tactics… I seem to catch more hits .. trolling as such

    Bubba said that……the troll you love to hate….

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  • actually, bubba, you may have trouble with your “ACLU for Obama.” I doubt former Republican – and one of the Republican floor managers for the Clinton impeachment – will give that one up without a fight since he was, after all, a prominent spokesperson for the ACLU, that terrible, awful, lefty organization.

  • oops. editing error. at some point #25 should mention that i am referring to Bob Barr, current Libertarian candidate for Pres.

  • Yeah Im glad he is a former Republican.. if he was worth a damn he would have got the job done… just another loser…. thanks for bringing him up though….

  • Gotta run for tonight… you guys are truly the best….best what I dont know but I like ya’ll a whole bunch.. hell this blogging stuff is more fun than drownin kittens..
    I havent had this much fun since the wolves dragged away my baby brother…
    g’night

  • In state and local politics, you can always find politicians who are DINO. That’s true especially in heavily Democratic places where the Democratic nomination is tantamount to winning the general election. Such politicians may be prominent in their social circles–you can always find a pond small enough.

  • Steve make up your mind ..am I a troll or a pitiful creature…wow you must have majored in Oratory Excellence at Wishywashy U …..besides you dont have enough juice on this blog to demote someone…I like my title as troll
    .. Hell I was even nominated as “PET TROLL”…. I am hardly likely to give up my status or future as such to such a pitiful attempt at you trying to demote me..
    If you are going to match witts with me ….bring your lunch bag because it is going to take you a while…..

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