Darren Manzella gets discharged from the Army

In December, “60 Minutes” ran one of my favorite “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” stories, featuring Army Sgt. Darren Manzella, who’d been deployed twice during the war in Iraq. During his first deployment, Manzella, a medic with a field artillery unit in Baghdad, earned a combat medal for rendering treatment under fire. “I’ve treated everything from blast injuries to gunshot wounds,” he told Leslie Stahl.

Manzella is gay, a fact that he hid from no one, even introducing his Army buddies to his boyfriend. When he received emails suggesting his personal life might soon be investigated, Manzella told his battalion commander the truth, which in turn prompted an investigation.

Manzella didn’t hold anything back in the investigation, submitting photos of himself and A.J., and a video of a road trip, including passionate kissing. But when the investigation ended, Manzella says he was told to go back to work. “There was no evidence of homosexuality and go back to work,” he says.

“Wait a minute. You’ve given them photographs of you and A.J.,” Stahl remarks.

“Yes, and then they’re like, ‘Go back to work. You’re not gay,” Manzella says.

“So, no one ever said anything to you about the — I don’t even know what word to use, absurdity, confusing response?” Stahl asks.

“The closest thing that I was given by my superiors was, “I don’t care if you’re gay or not.”

Well, no, of course not. As Cholene Espinoza, an Air Force Captain who flew combat missions, explained, “Darren is in a critical field. He’s a medic. His commander needs him. He’s a known quantity. He gets along with others. He does what he’s supposed to. He goes above and beyond. Why do I want to lose Darren?”

The Army didn’t want to lose Darren, which is precisely why he was told to go back to work.

At least that was what he was told initially. The “60 Minutes” report raised a few eyebrows, and now that Manzella’s revelations have become embarrassing to the Army, he’s been discharged.

Here’s the item from the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, by way of Pam Spaulding.

Decorated Army Sergeant Darren Manzella has been discharged under the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” law banning lesbian, gay and bisexual Americans from military service, effective June 10. The Iraq war veteran was the first openly gay active duty service member to speak with the media while serving inside a war zone. […]

“The discharge of battle-tested, talented service members like Sergeant Manzella weakens our military in a time of war. National security requires that Congress lift the ban on gays in the military and allow commanders to judge troops on their qualifications, not their sexuality,” said Adam Ebbin, Communications Director of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN). […]

Sergeant Manzella said, “My sexual orientation certainly didn’t make a difference when I treated injuries and saved lives in the streets of Baghdad. It shouldn’t be a factor in allowing me to continue to serve.”

John McCain recently said gay people in the military represent an “intolerable risk” to unit morale, cohesion, and discipline.

I’m curious. Which poses the great risk, Manzella being deployed and serving honorably, or Manzella not being deployed? Which is better for the troops? Which does more to help those in uniform? Which leaves the military stronger, and which leaves it weaker?

Maybe the Army will be able to explain their insanity in all of this—the day a soldier dies because Manzella wasn’t there to save his life.

  • The story was embarrassing for the Army. Do they really think discharging him now is going to make things *less* emabarrassing?

  • We have to get the gays out of the Army so we can make room for white supremacists, Christian dominionists, people with below-average IQs and convicted criminals.

    Come on, people — that’s just common sense!

  • When I was in my early 20s, military recruiters were calling all the time. One day I just flat out told the guy that I didn’t want to join the military because of their prejudices. The soldier on the other end of the line was black, and began to reassure me. I told him it wasn’t a racial thing, or a gender thing – it was a gay thing. This stopped him in his tracks. He asked “So…that is your preference?” I said “Yeah,” and after listening to him literally stumble all over himself not knowing what to say for a few seconds, I offered him an out. “Thanks for calling,” I said. “Yeah!” he practically yelled, relief in his voice. We hung up, and I’ve never received another call from the military.

    Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is abhorent. It asks honorable people to become Larry Craigs, lurking about in secret and shame. Screw that. If you don’t want me risking my life for the country I love and live in, that’s just fine and dandy. That’s a glass-half-full way of looking at things anyway. I prefer to think that we GLBT members of society are so *special*, so *revered* that the rest of our society just can’t bear the thought of our being killed on the battlefield. Delusional or not, it works for me, and it *really* pisses off the bigots.

  • Haik, the 60 Minutes episode was before he was discharged. In fact the message of the piece was that the military is ignoring the rule because they need people like Manzella.

  • Roddy McCorley

    LOL!

    I’m with you except for people with limited IQs. That isn’t their choice, as sexual orientation is not self-chosen. The rest have chosen or voluntarily accepted their lot in life, with or without questions.

  • John McCain recently said gay people in the military represent an “intolerable risk” to unit morale, cohesion, and discipline.

    I’m curious. Which poses the great risk, Manzella being deployed and serving honorably, or Manzella not being deployed? Which is better for the troops? Which does more to help those in uniform? Which leaves the military stronger, and which leaves it weaker?

    CB, he is an intolerable risk because he wants to serve in the military. Gays aren’t supposed to want to do that. Service is for real men only. Gays are supposed to be into painting and flowers.

    /snark

  • This must be where McCain contracted his Chronic Flipflop Syndrome — in the military.

  • Lose one medic and lose a dozen badly wounded soldiers.

    Lose one Arabic Language translator and lose 3000+ people and Billions in property and economic damage.

    Thanks a lot Sam Nunn and Colin Powell.

  • Is there anything more antiquated than this policy of don’t ask, don’t tell? Ridiculous

  • “You don’t have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.”

    – Sen. Barry Goldwater

  • Haik, the 60 Minutes episode was before he was discharged. In fact the message of the piece was that the military is ignoring the rule because they need people like Manzella.

    Well then it all makes sense. They can ignore the rule until the fact that they’re ignoring it starts getting attention. This guy was basically asking to be discharged by going on the show.

    It may be a stupid rule, and they apparently bend the hell out of it, but it’s a rule nonetheless. If its bending is exposed, they can’t very well keep on with the bending.

    They can’t break the law in a highly publicized way. Good on the army for bending it as far as they could.

    Bad on the politicians and the people for the stupid rule.

  • The army is just did what they were ordered to do. They are ordered to discharge anyone who “tells”. Mr. Manzella’s commanding officer first tried to define “tell” so that simply announcing it to his buddies and producing photos didn’t count as “telling”. Once it was on national TV that approach could not work. Mr. Manzella took a principled stand in an attempt to expose a wrongheaded policy. But, the problem is with the orders and not with the officers who carried them out. Personally I think the military should follow orders from civilians.

    Also,

    Before Truman integrated the military black soldiers represented an intolerable risk to unit morale, cohesion, and discipline.

    and

    The republicans think that anyone who volunteers must have a limited IQ. Why else would anyone go? There isn’t even a draft. Risking your life for your country is for suckers.

  • SDH said: Gays are supposed to be into painting and flowers.

    Yeah, shame on us for not living down to their assumptions…

    I’m a big, strong, straight man. I like flowers. I spent part of last weekend planting a flower garden in memory of a gay man who was murdered for being gay.

    If someone asked big, strong, straight, me to run TOWARD explosions and gunfire to save a life, I might or might not have the courage to do it (I’d like to believe I would).

    Manzella proved that he’s brave enough to run into gunfire…hell, he proved that he’s brave enough to go head-to-head with the Government.

    I left my Bush Clock at home…how many more days until we have a shot at a return to sanity in DC?

  • So this begs the question, why aren’t all those opposed to being deployed again pretend to be gay? If it apparently isn’t an inherited trait (apparently by the right-wing ideology) and that your ENVIRONMENT makes you gay, can’t you say that hanging out with all those guys in close quarters turned you gay?

    What do you think is required to prove this for the army? Didn’t Vietnam draftees do this?

    This is just an exercise in logic and possible loop-holes.

  • Take what you want with this but here is prediction. The US WILL one day have to pony up major reparations to these people for being discriminated on… It’s all just a matter of time.

  • Manzella’s commander did early what a lot of commanders are going to do once the wars wind down. Watch for a sudden outbreak of pearl clutching and swooning because a soldier in the unit was gay.They’ll be discharged with no benefits and the U.S. military will continue to have something in common with the militaries of Iran and North Korea.

    Incidentally, this weekend marks the anniversary of the Stonewall Riots.

    NOT THAT I’M SUGGESTING VIOLENCE IS THE SOLUTION.

    Heh.

  • Thank you so much for writing about this. I did not know about it but have been interested in how this would play out after his 60-min interview.

    McCain is a sick man, an embarrassment to our nation. We are one of a handful of Theocratic nations that do not allow gays to serve. The other’s being Muslim-led..how friggin ironic is that????

    I am so humiliated by our elected officials actions on this issue..which really isn’t an issue except for the Theocratic assholes that continue to make it one.

  • Man, even Sam Nunn is backing off this turkey campaigning to be Obama’s VP.

    There, fixed it for ya, tAiO.

  • McCain says the law, passed in 1993, “unambiguously maintains that open homosexuality within the military services presents an intolerable risk to morale, cohesion and discipline.”
    That may also be said of the Congress: all congresspeople who are outed, either by their own admission(that word connotes something wrong with them, just as “admitting” to being Muslim does) or someone else “outing” them, should be removed from office to maintain the “…morale, cohesion and discipline” of the body of congress (isn’t congress another word for sexual intercourse?). In fact, since we are a Christian nation founded by a bunch of “Founding Fathers” of European descent, wealth and property, we best remove all members of Congress unlike this prototype: women, people of color, non-Christians and common people of moderate means. Is there someone out there willing to bring this to the discussion?

    We are either a nation of inclusivity or a nation of bigots. There is no in-between ground. I suggest everyone reading this check your family tree and see if you can meet the standard of “purity” represented by the “don’t ask, don’t tell” form of repression. Imagine a life without diversity: what contribution is made by a homogenous group of people who all think the same, have the same likes and dislikes and the same abilities? Who plants and picks the crops, builds skyscrapers, weapons of war, cares for the sick, buries the dead or composes and performs music?

    We are all ONE HUMAN FAMILY. It is time we started to act a one.

    I am committed to Oneness through Justice and Transformation

    peace,
    st john

  • Does it matter to the victim who is treating them or who is killing them. Doesn’t matter to the other armies of the world.

  • Hey Dusty, according to Wiki, Turkey requires all healthy heterosexual men to serve and allows healthy gay men to be excused if they want.

    So that’s one Muslim country that’s (in a kind of weird way) ahead of the U.S.

    I wonder what would happen if Israel (service requirement for everyone told us to stop being such schmucks. I suspect the TalEvan would give up their pretend love affair with the Israelis and revert to shrieking that the Jews killed Jesus.

  • Instead of DADT, the Army should be actively seeking out gays to recruit. Homosexuals have a glorious historical record of military service.

    Alexander the Great was probably gay.
    Julius Caesar was a known bisexual.
    The best general in Europe between Marlborough and Napoleon was King Frederick the Great of Prussia, a known homosexual.
    Spartan domination of Greece, (which started with their defeat of Athens in the Peloponessian War) ended with their defeat by Thebes under Epaminondas in 371 BCE at the Battle of Leuctra. The Thebans won by training an elite group of 300 to be able to maneuver on the battlefield, something no Greek army, even the Spartans, could do. The Theban Sacred Band was reportedly made up of 150 gay couples, under the theory that they would fight to the death rather than be disgraced in front of their lovers.

    How’s that for unit morale?

  • Thanks for looking that up The Answer is Orange..I feel even worse now, knowing one of the Muslim-led nations actually is more forward thinking than our nation.

  • Ok lets get something straight. The Army doesn’t kick people out for BEING gay, they discharge you if you run around screaming it. (It is also against army policy to attend rallies of any sort, such as pro-life assemblies etc.) Seemingly, Mr. Manzella USED the DADT policy to leave his term of service while his country needed him and not the other way around. His Chain of Command were well and good leaving him in and it was HIS choice to go AGAINST policy by going to the media UNAUTHORIZED and BLATANTLY professing his homosexuality. This is why they said there was not evidence of homosexuality, home videos are for you to watch at home, he wasn’t airing them at work. Mr. Manzella gave the video to his COC to BOLSTER HIS attempt to be discharged. Being gay shouldn’t be an issue because you shouldn’t have the urge to make a spectacle of it. I certainly don’t walk around reminding everyone that I am hetero. Your sexual preference doesn’t need to be brought up at all and in this case Mr. Manzella brought it up in order to cause a raucous and he suceeded. Naturally to assuage his guilt he did everything in his power to make it look like an Army bad-bad. This is what weakens our troops, individuals and media that insist on badgering our Armed Forces over things they are COMPLETELY ignorant of. Shame on you Manzella for making our Army look bad and for abandoning your comrades.

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