Just how nervous is the religious right over Obama?

Earlier this week, Focus on the Family’s James Dobson went after Barack Obama with a vengeance. Today, the Family Research Council, which Dobson helped form, goes after Obama on abortion.

The ad, which will reportedly begin airing today in Cincinnati, Dallas, and Atlanta, features Obama telling a church congregation, “We need fathers to recognize that responsibility doesn’t just end at conception.”

FRC President Tony Perkins is then shown, baby on his knee, thanking Obama for “promoting fatherhood,” before asking, “If, as you say, fatherhood begins at conception, when does life begin?” Or more to the point, “If I became a father at conception, when did Samuel here become my son?”

Perkins told the NYT the thinking behind the ad: “Barack Obama has made some very important points in his speeches, particularly his speech about fatherhood, but there is a disconnect between when he is saying and the political positions he has taken, and if he is going to be pro family he has got to be pro family.”

To be pro-choice, according to the FRC, necessarily disqualifies someone as “pro-family.”

Asked why the FRC’s anti-Obama ad and Dobson’s anti-Obama attacks came within a few days of each other, Perkins said it was a coincidence.

Maybe that’s true; I have no idea. It is pretty clear that the religious right movement is feeling rather panicky about Obama, though, because we never saw anything like this in the summer of 2000 or 2004.

It’s worth noting who Perkins is, because while he’s a major powerhouse in religious right circles, he’s not nearly as well known as characters like Dobson and Pat Robertson.

Perkins isn’t a household name, but he’s as serious a right-wing player as anyone in the country right now. When the Republican Party and evangelical activists organized “Justice Sunday” events to promote Bush’s judicial appointees, GOP leaders turned to Perkins to organize the events. When Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay wanted to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case, who’s the first person they approached for help? Tony Perkins.

But if we look a little closer at Perkins, we see a rather radical figure. I’m reminded of anecdotes like this one:

[In 2001], Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), America’s premier white supremacist organization, the successor to the White Citizens Councils, which battled integration in the South. In 1996 Perkins paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,000 for his mailing list. At the time, Perkins was the campaign manager for a right-wing Republican candidate for the US Senate in Louisiana. The Federal Election Commission fined the campaign Perkins ran $3,000 for attempting to hide the money paid to Duke.

More recently, Perkins blamed MTV for the Abu Ghraib scandal; compared Thomas Jefferson’s wall of separation of church and state to the communists’ Berlin Wall; and argued that federal judges who disagree with him pose “a greater threat to representative government” than “terrorist groups.”

When members of Congress invited a Hindu leader to deliver an invocation, Perkins rallied the opposition, insisting that no one outside the Christian or Jewish communities should be allowed to lead official congressional prayers.

And just this past December, when a madman when on a shooting rampage in Arvada, Colo., Perkins announced that “the secular media” was to blame.

And now, he’s starring in anti-Obama commercials. I wonder if he might inadvertently be doing Obama a favor.

Post Script: By the way, why would the FRC bother airing this ad in Houston?

I’m nervous over Obama now too. I was listening to O’Reilly’s show in the car for a few minutes earlier and Smerconish was guest-hosting. After saying he had been moderately pro-Obama before (yeah, right), Smerconish proceeded to criticize Obama for an extended period as a flip-flopper who has no real views. His examples were all the items from the last week where Obama has moved to the right. So basically, Obama is going to catch even more hell from the right-wingers who feel he is trespassing on their turf while at the same time losing alot of the activist core who would have formed what looked at one time like an impressive ground organization. The change message was working extremely well and this is undeniably a year when people are pissed at Washington business as usual. The Obama campaign has been very well run so far but I think moving to the center could be a fatal mistake.

  • Awww…did Bad Widdle Tony make a boo-boo in his widdle diaper?

    Yep—the Vangees are a-runnin’ scared. It’s about time they were on the receiving end of it all!

  • It’s a pretty tricky ad and no doubt will score points with the pro-lifers. But Obama didn’t say “fatherhood” started at conception. He said that a man’s “responsibility” does not end at conception. There’s a difference.

    And with all his ties to white supremacists, this Tony Perkins is infinitely scarier than the one of “Psycho” fame.

  • Perkins told the NYT the thinking behind the ad:

    OK, I’m not a marketing expert but I do know that if you have to explain the thinking behind the ad, your ad has FAILED.

    [In 2001], Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), America’s premier white supremacist organization

    Good thing we can rely on the media to give this fact as much attention as Rev. Wright.

    Right they finish their McBarBQ.

  • “…By the way, why would the FRC bother airing this ad in Houston?”

    Buddies got to make a profit too.

    Once again the religious right leaders try to make it a one issue campaign and try to push the belief that pro-choice is anti-family.

    They do nothing to help prevent unwanted pregnancies and then condemn those who get abortions.

    Be for killing and destroying entire nations and turning the executive into a monarch but as long as your “pro-life” (misleading because so few are anti life) you get Perkins’ vote.

    Blaming politicians for supporting what a majority of Americans are in favor of is not only un-democratic it’s dictatorial.

  • Shalimar,

    Can you elaborate on being afraid of Obama’s candidacy? My concern is that he has not been aggressive about controlling the debate as McCain has.

  • By moving to the right, I’m afraid he is going to lose more voters (and especially volunteers who get out the vote) than he gains and end up losing an election that is there for the taking. Obama was successful when the theme was change. Moving to the right and parroting Republican positions is unfortunately the opposite of that.

  • Shalimar, Stop listening to O’liely and you’ll be fine. I agree with Micheline about the meassage, but I blame the MSM more than Obama. Every time McSame chirps the MSM go running for a reaction from Obama instead of questions McLame’s stupid positions.

  • When Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay wanted to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case, who’s the first person they approached for help? Tony Perkins.

    And how did those little adventures play out? Frist is gone, DeLay is gone, and Schiavo is a debacle most Republicans want to forget every happened. Please, keep ‘helping’ Tony – America needs all the ‘help’ it can get.

    The Obama campaign has been very well run so far but I think moving to the center could be a fatal mistake.

    I think listening to Smerconish-O’Reilly is a fatal mistake – you will never hear anything out of that camp except attack, attack, attack, irrespective of the details. As for “Obama moves to the right,” what a bunch of shit. You run your primary speaking to your base, you run your general speaking to everyone else. Nothing Obama has done has been a surprise to me, and follows decades of “shifting” that occurs when the general starts after the primaries conclude.

  • To try to counter such mean-minded, insidious propaganda head-on would be pissing in the wind to fall on deaf ears (to not unintentionally mix metaphors). But it still needs to be said. There seems to me no benefit from disputing whether life begins at conception or some other time, but what is worth disputing is which of the parents has the more intimate and decisive connection with the newly conceived entity. It’s no surprise that right-wing, Klu Klux Klan inheritors would deprive the mother of space or mention in their ad, but surely it is the mother who must be accorded the right to choose the destiny of the being that is occupying and dependent on her body for the following months.
    If life begins at conception, which I believe, then to terminate that life is indeed murder. However, if the mother doesn’t know or believe that, which is very commonly the case, then no sin or crime is committed if she chooses not to proceed with her pregnancy. After all, whether the father stays around or not, she has to look after this child virtually for the rest of her life.
    As a footnote I want to add that I have known cases, directly as well as in the literature, where, through the mother’s direct communion with her unborn child, explaining that the time is not right, spontaneous miscarriage has occurred. Through the intimacy of the bond between mother and fetus that being’s incarnation can be postponed without surgical intervention.

  • I wonder who Perkins thinks is more Gay:

    Sponge Bob; or
    The Purple Teletubby.

    Dobson is on record backing Sponge Bob. Where does Tony stand?

  • Shalimar,

    I think you’re right. He’s sure losing me, and a lot of people I know and read. The sheer number of mock Obama stickers and banners (“Be disappointed by someone NEW in 2008!” “Yes we can’t!”) I’m seeing around is, to me, symptomatic.

    I know a lot of people are sick of feeling like he thinks we owe him our votes and they’re in the bag.

  • 9. GuyFromOhio said: Nothing Obama has done has been a surprise to me, and follows decades of “shifting” that occurs when the general starts after the primaries conclude.

    So everything will be fine, this is what they all do. And this is supposed to reassure me that the change candidate hasn’t ditched his successful message, how exactly?

  • Shalimar and miwome,

    I know what you guys are saying but it is our job to hold his feet to the fire. Do you think that FDR instituted changes simply because he wanted to?

  • As for “Obama moves to the right,” what a bunch of shit.

    FISA.

    So…. not a bunch of shit, PutzFromOhio

  • why would the FRC bother airing this ad in Houston?

    Because if they don’t get busy we’re going to kick their asses, that’s why.

    We in Texas are about to hand Bush’s buddies their asses, in a bucket.

  • Even among far right voters, who would never vote for Obama anyway, I have to think that people will notice the glaring fallacy in “if fatherhood doesn’t conception, then a fetus is a human being.”

    I guess the “logic” is something like “If fatherhood doesn’t end at conception, it must begin at conception. If fatherhood begins at conception, then the fertilized egg has a father. If the fertilized egg has a father, it must be a baby.”

    Is it just me, or is it hilarious when people like this think they’re being clever when in fact they are being astonishingly, superlatively dumb?

  • Asked why the FRC’s anti-Obama ad and Dobson’s anti-Obama attacks came within a few days of each other, Perkins said it was a coincidence.

    Riiiiight. If James Dobson ever came to a screeching halt, Tony Perkins would likely die of strangulation before he could pull his head out of Dobson’s ass.

    This is the guy who, when asked about the David Duke mailing list, said he needed it for “my Christmas list.”

    He’s the guy who wants to see the death penalty for “unchaste women.” Also he wants the death penalty for “blasphemy.”

  • Remember the other week? When moveon.org aired that “100 years” ad? With the mother holding the baby, telling McCain that if he expects her son to fight his 100 year war in iraq, “you can’t have him?” Remember that? Do ya? Huh?

    That was shrill. It must be true. All the rightwingers said so. How dare you use a baby for a cheap political stunt, they asked.

    Which is why I’m looking forward to the inevitable backlash with Tony Perkins using a baby for a cheap political stunt.

    The rightwingers will be all over this, too. Right? Won’t they?

    Or are they a bunch of effing hypocrites?

  • Ohio Guy:

    Nothing Obama has done has been a surprise to me, and follows decades of “shifting” that occurs when the general starts after the primaries conclude.

    The issue is that a lot of people were enthusiastic about Obama — much more than usual for a candidate, and specifically in contrast to their feelings about Clinton — because he seemed to promise precisely a “change” from “decades of shifting” and other unfortunate attributes of politics. It doesn’t surprise me, either, because I’m much to cynical at this point to believe in such promises, but it also doesn’t surprise me that this would be upsetting to those less jaded than I (and thank god there are such people).

    actually, i would amend my above paragraph slightly: the FISA move by Obama was craven enough and unconstitutional enough that it even surprised me.

  • The latest flap over whether Obama believes in a wall between church and state or whether he believes his religion is inseparable from his decision-making should make all of us take another look at the guy.

    If evangelicals are comfortable with Obama, as the press has been saying lately, I am definitely not comfortable with him (for yet another reason). I don’t want another religious president. I want a president whose religion is personal and a source of comfort and strength (if he or she must be religious) but who will recognize that this is a diverse nation and that God does not govern a secular state. That isn’t Obama, based on everything I’ve been reading about his religious views.

    I could not ever vote for someone who would say, in his own campaign literature (as he did), that he was “called by God to run for the presidency”.

    Look at the fellow travelers Obama has been recruiting from the religious right and ask what that says about Obama before it is too late and we are stuck with the guy. Obama is being attacked by Dobson, Perkins and FRC because he is making inroads with their constituency. That should be a warning flag, not something to be happy about.

  • Oh, Mary, you forgot to add “…and I was so far up Hillary Clinton’s ass, my nose would’ve broken had she made a sharp left.” You know, disclaimers are important.

  • Brooks #17: I have to think that people will notice the glaring fallacy in “if fatherhood doesn’t [end at] conception, then a fetus is a human being.”

    You’re giving way to much credit to voters, right wing or otherwise, being able to suss out logical fallacies. Thanks for explaining it, though.

    In this case, “conception” is a euphemism for “fucking,” which would’ve opened Obama to an entirely different line of attacks, if he had said it.

  • Goldilocks #10: If life begins at conception, which I believe, then to terminate that life is indeed murder. However, if the mother doesn’t know or believe that, which is very commonly the case, then no sin or crime is committed if she chooses not to proceed with her pregnancy.

    I’m not understanding the logic here. It’s a sin or crime if I believe it is, but it’s not a sin or crime for the person who doesn’t believe it?

  • I think it will be GREAT if the Religious Nutcases go against Obama so the rest of us, who had doubts about IF Obama is really pro-choice, can rest assured he really IS pro-choice. Since he ABSTAINED from every single vote on abortion as a senator, I was a little worried about that.

  • Life begins at conception, so BIRTH CONTROL is NOT abortion. Many fetuses are NOT VIABLE and so there is such a thing as a natural “spontaneous” abortion. In the first three months, that happens MORE than people know. I do not believe people should USE abortion as a form of birth control or to get out of responsibility, but I believe that is also BETWEEN THEM AND GOD, and not the domain of GOVERNMENT. I remember the days when it was illegal, and how DEVASTATING it was…. coathanger abortions, back alley abortions, kitchen table abortions done in secrecy, teens abandoned by parents and committing suicide, the rich going overseas for legal abortions and the poor having baby after baby and going on welfare. I knew some girls who had babies JUST to get welfare- you get a RAISE in PAY for each baby you have. What happened to all those babies raised by drug and alcohol addicted moms? Broken homes? THEY BECAME THE CRIMINALS of today, the people who go out shooting and doing all sorts of antisocial crimes. Not all babies born of unwed moms do that, but ENOUGH do that we have to wonder about should they have even been born. This is not even considering children born of RAPE AND ABUSIVE MOMS OR DADS who go on to abuse their own kids in a chain of abuse. IF EVERY PERSON who believes in pro choice OFFERS TO ADOPT TEN CHILDREN, I would say it would be safe to make abortion illegal; however, YOU AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE CASE. You guys who spout morality WILL NOT do that. And yet you BECOME ANGRY when the single moms GO ON WELFARE? How hypocritical is that? I am already afraid for the future of Roe vs Wade in light of the recent conservative judges’ rulings in our highest court. I am SO AFRAID for the future of America if the conservative, religious nutbags take control and wipe out a hundred years of progress!

  • As far as if a fetus is a baby, of course it is. Is abortion killing? Yes, of course it is. So? We often have to make a choice between two very AWFUL options. Which choice is made should be between a WOMAN AND HER DOCTOR, and NOT THE GOVERNMENT. Actually, I am OF THE BELIEF that abortion is wrong, but NOT illegal, and should not be called illegal. It is between her and God. God will be the judge, and not people. Remember, the Bible says, “Judge not lest you be judged”. That brings up the principle of OPENING UP a A PRECEDENT legally that you REALLY DO NOT WANT to open. Remember when GOVERNMENT MADE IT MANDATORY for some people to have BRAIN operations to remove the personality section of the brain? When GOVERNMENT MADE IT MANDATORY for sterilization? When the CHINESE government ORDERED ABORTIONS after a family had one child? WE CAN BECOME THAT again. Be very careful WHAT you want in the hands of government. My body is one thing I do NOT want government to control.

  • What is a sin? What is a crime? Are they synonymous? LOOK IT UP IN THE DICTIONARY. Religiously, a woman having an abortion, unless it is for a solid reason, is committing a sin. ot all sins are CRIMES. I happen to think DRINKING ALCOHOL is a sin, but should we make that ILLEGAL? We can’t make ALL SINS illegal. We are NOT GOD.

  • By the way, Goldilock’s assertion that a woman can “make herself” have a spontaneous abortion by “talking to the fetus” is ridiculous. Does she live in “la la land”? I think “Alice in Wonderland” would be a better pseudonym than Goldilocks.

  • CCC is not a racist org no more racist then the ADL, La Raza or NAACP. Get it right or don’t report such crap you have no knowing of.

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