New media meme: candidate flip-flops no longer matter

In 2004, the Bush-Cheney campaign decided early on in the race exactly how they’d define John Kerry: “flip-flopper.” The charge was quickly parroted by the media, and reinforced the Republican campaign’s narrative: in the first post-9/11 election, in a time of war, we don’t want someone who’s inconsistent.

Four years later, it’s the Republican who has reversed course on literally dozens of issues. And now, the media has decided that the dreaded flip-flops really don’t matter after all.

Time’s Michael Scherer sounds bored with all the talk about policy reversals.

[T]he legacy of Bush/Cheney ’04 remains, and Democrats have apparently learned their lesson. The core message of the Obama/DNC campaign is that McCain has flip-flopped on all his old maverick image. The key message of the McCain/RNC campaign is that Obama is an opportunist who will flip-flop when it helps him politically. And so it goes. Every day, flip-flop charges bang up against the political press like moths on a screen door. And we let some of them in, sometimes with the unexamined conceit that any shift in position is a window into the candidate’s lack of character, toughness or principle.

Andrew Sullivan agrees that flip-flops no longer mean much.

It’s often a completely idiotic way to analyze a candidate. Sometimes a flip-flop is a sign of real maturity in a politician responding to new events or facts. And sometimes, rigid consistency is disastrous.

The Washington Post’s Ruth Marcus argued today that these policy reversals may actually be a good quality in a candidate, a sign of “welcome pragmatism,” and “evidence of open-mindedness.” Marcus encouraged us to “not flip out too much about flip-flops.”

CNN’s Wolf Blitzer came to a similar conclusion a couple of weeks ago, “There’s nothing wrong with people changing their minds. We all do it – all the time.”

What a remarkable coincidence. When Kerry is charged as a flip-flopper, policy reversals become the central focus of the presidential campaign. When McCain is exposed as having reversed course dozens of times, leading media voices announce, “On second thought, all this flip-flop talk is kind of annoying.”

To reiterate an argument I raised a few weeks ago, as the self-designated keeper of the Official List of McCain Flip-Flops, I thought I’d take a moment to respond to this new, more tolerant, media perspective.

In short, there’s nothing substantively wrong with what any of these journalists have argued. I’m very much inclined to agree that there’s nothing offensive about a political figure changing his or her mind. Policy makers come to one conclusion, they gain more information, and then they reach a different conclusion. That is, to be sure, a good thing — it reflects a politician with an open mind and a healthy intellectual curiosity. Better to have a leader who changes his or her mind based on new information than one who stubbornly sticks to outmoded policy positions, regardless of facts or circumstances.

So why do McCain’s flip-flops matter? Because all available evidence suggests his reversals aren’t sincere, they’re cynically calculated for political gain. This isn’t indicative of an open mind; it’s actually indicative of a character flaw. And given the premise of McCain’s presidential campaign, it’s an area in desperate need of media scrutiny.

I won’t bother republishing the full list of 48 that I’ve come up with over the last several months — I just ran it recently, Keith Olbermann promoted it on Monday, and I’ll have an updated version next week — but go ahead and look it over, keeping an eye on the ideological trend. Some of the reversals are because McCain is embarrassed by what he used to believe — he argued, for example, that the war in Iraq would be easy, which looks ridiculous now, and which leads him to argue that he knew all along that the war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”

Most of the flip-flops, though, show McCain dropping his centrist/moderate credentials in order to be more in line with today’s Republican mainstream. Tax cuts, foreign policy, immigration, abortion, the religious right, the environment, detainee policy, campaign finance reform. In every instance, McCain was a “maverick,” willing to break with his party. Now, he isn’t. The perception people have of McCain is outdated, reflective of a man who no longer has any use for his previous persona.

What’s wrong with a politician who changes his or her views? Nothing in particular, but when a politician changes his views so much that he has an entirely different worldview, and that new worldview is conveniently necessary to win his party’s presidential nomination, is it unreasonable to wonder whether it’s entirely sincere? Especially when there’s no other apparent explanation for four dozen significant reversals?

What’s wrong with political leaders simply saying they’ve had a change of heart? Nothing, just so long as it’s genuine. Given the circumstances, one would have to be hopelessly naive to think McCain, all of a sudden, out of the blue, just happened to reinvent himself and his policy agenda based on nothing more than a simple “change of heart.”

Are there are worse qualities in a presidential candidate than changing one’s mind about a policy matter? Sure. McCain has been in Congress for decades; he’s bound to shift now and then on various controversies.

But therein lies the point — McCain was consistent on most of these issues, right up until he started running for president, at which point he conveniently abandoned literally dozens of positions he used to hold. The problem isn’t just the incessant flip-flops — though that’s part of it — it’s more about the shameless pandering and hollow convictions behind the incessant flip-flops. That the media still perceives McCain as some kind of “straight talker” who refuses to sway with the political winds makes this all the more glaring.

As Josh Marshall recently put it, “McCain is absolutely gung-ho and certain that he’s right about whatever his position and ‘principles’ are at the given moment. But they change repeatedly.”

How interesting that flip-flops mattered when the label was attached to Kerry, not so much when it’s the Republican candidate who is getting labeled. What are the odds? Who could have imagined?

  • And don’t forget that the Republicans are pushing Obama’s reversal on campaign finance as not just a flip-flop but a broken promise — when it was nothing of the sort — and Obama’s FISA reversal is also out there as a flip-flop. This flip-flop fatigue only cuts one way, to St. BBQ’s benefit. (Meanwhile, churls like Krauthammer complain that Obama is getting a free pass…)

    Memo from the media: IOKIYAR.

  • I’m rolling my eyes, but not surprised.

    The MSM is following the golden rule: he (Corporate masters) who has the gold makes the rules (on what is important.)

  • The media voices have flip-flopped on the issue of whether flip-flopping matters. But since flip-flopping no longer matters, they’re not doing anything wrong. They’re just changing their mind. Nothing wrong with that.

  • There is one thing in common about flip-flop-gate 04 and flip-flop-gate 08, and while my opinion may be biased, I think it bears remembering:

    In both instances, the media charge only takes on the illusion of being “true” if we, the people don’t delve deeper.

    In 2004, all the talk about flip-flopping on Kerry’s part was either made up or based on Kerry changing his mind because new evidence or new circumstances bore a change in thinking (and that evidence or those circumstances had zero to do with political expediency). But hey, it wouldn’t be as much fun to chant “fliiiiip-flooooop” in an arena with thousands of rabid Hannity fans if you found out ehy weren’t flip-flops at all. So the media narrative at the time was “Kerry’s flip-flops matter, just trust us on this. Don’t bother your pretty little head with the details”

    Four years later, McCain’s back-and-forth with key positions, what he knows or doesn’t know, and just plain reality in general would make your head spin. But then there won’t be free BBQ on the White House lawn if McCain’s NOT elected. So the media narrative THIS time is “McCain’s flip-flops DON’T matter…just trust us on this. Don’t bother your pretty little head with the details”

    What should piss America off more, that the press that we trust to inform us sucks at their job so much, or that they’re so well-paid to suck?

  • That Olbermann piece is terrific — short, sweet, and damning.

    I hope you keep pressing this, Steve.

  • Wait, now the MSM line is that flip-flops DO NOT matter??

    Oh, great, what’s next? That someone’s military record is now not subject to debate??

    Or that moral short-comings should be treated as a “personal matter”, and not used to attack a candidate?

  • I know how “flip-flopping” would once again become a major issue — if Obama reversed his terrible stance on the FISA “compromise.”

  • To be fair to McCain and Obama, if you have a reasonable reason for why you changed your mind then it is perfectly OK.

    I can’t remember who said it or the exact quote

    “Yes, I change my mind when the facts change. What do you do?”

    So, I can forgive McCain for saying that offshore drilling is OK when the oil is expensive but not worth it when oil is cheap.

    What I can’t forgive him for is his change on tax policy. He was against Bush’s tax cuts when we didn’t know if they would be good for the economy or not. He was against them because he didn’t think they were fair because they slanted too much to the rich.

    Now we KNOW that the tax cuts were bad for the economy. Yet McCain has changed his mind.

    If you had supported the Bush tax cuts back in 2001 and you saw that you were wrong and, after looking at the evidence, realized you were wrong and changed your mind, THEN it would show you were willing to admit when you were wrong.

    McCain just looks stupid concerning his tax policy.

  • The only thing John McCain stands for is “John McCain for President.” QEFD

    He’s as much an empty suit as the overpaid whores who’ve been holding up the Bush administration for the last 7+ years.

  • yes, changing your mind can be a sign of maturity, an improvement over President Stay the Course.

    but it is not just a matter of sincerity as CB suggests. pure frequency matters, too. changing from A to B and back to A again probably isn’t as good of a sign. but my favorite red flag – how you know a change is a sign of a character flaw – is when you flip-flop on your own signature pieces of legislation.

    1) It almost always means the change took place over a relatively short time period

    2) And there are really only two explanations, neither a positive trait: (a) political expediency or (b) you really hadn’t thought it through before you put your name on it in the first place.

    McCain, of course, fails all of these tests.

  • A couple of things:

    (a) Good list. Need some sub-lists eg: which are the top 3 flip-flops that prove he’s not a maverick, but just a regular wingnut? I’d say Taxes, Torture, Diplomacy, Immigration and Falwell. Something easy soundbites for Obama surrogates to take it from there.

    (b) It’s not good enough that Olbermann and a guy named Steve on the “internets” are tracking this. OBAMA needs to highlight the flip-flops. We all know today’s MSM, for them to pick up criticism of McCain, Obama has to say it, otherwise it doesn’t get said.

  • Contrary to what the MSM believe, it is not a “flip-flop” to support one Position One on Day X, change to Position Two on Day Y, and then deny the existence of Position One AND Day X on Day Z. I won’t expect the resident trolls to understand this, as their Algebraic skills are about as clumsy as the Martians were in Wells’ 1898 The War of the Worlds. Besides, the Martians had those wondrously-nasty machines—and all the GOPers have now is teh “Limp-Wimp-Wolf” Blitzer and his ilk. Talk about your pale comparisons….

  • More evidence that the fix is in. Face it people, the plutocracy (which owns the media of course) has already decided McCain will be the next president.

    America is screwed.

  • Oh darn.
    I was hoping the Democratic convention would have people throwing the thong shoes (flip-flops), and dressing shabby with P.O.W. written on their clothes, just for laughs.
    I seem to remember some other convention where similar antics were quite the rage, although I think it was purple band-aids instead of P.O.W. costumes.
    I guess that this would be “shot down” pretty quickly.
    \snark
    Seriously, I hate the Corp Media.

  • I think the McCan’t problem is that he flip-flops back and forth depending on the audience. Just run commercials on his immigration policy positions and he’ll sink.

    And yes the media is in the tank for McCan’t.

  • This isn’t indicative of an open mind; it’s actually indicative of a character flaw.

    CB, you’re so right! The real question for each change of stance in any candidate is “Why?”. McCain has a habit of flat out denying his reversals, forging ahead like he’s never heard himself speak. I have a feeling that his truthful answer will always be “because a lobbyist or corporate donor told me to.”

    But conservatives by their very nature aren’t concerned with the “why” of anything. Gas goes up? Make more gas. Weather patterns become more typically ferocious? Blame gays. “Why” implies responsibility. “Why” begs us to become more informed. But, when economists are the enemy of cheap gas, and educated people are “elites,” being informed is impossible. Reading the paper, changing the channel, thinking ahead, listening to experts, examining options — this is where you get the “Why.”

    But, the “Why” is not going to sell ad space on FOX News or the WSJ. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

  • Heaven forbid that a politician can legitimately change his or her mind. This seems to me a sign of growth and maturity, a greater grasp of the issues, or something that would cause one to make a better, more informed decision. Because truth be told, politicians are not omniscient.

    So it’s a good thing to say that the media isn’t focusing as much on these “so-called” flip-flops. Because another truth be told, they’ve only been focusing on Obama. They haven’t focused on many flip-flops or just outright gaffes McCain has made since he’s become the presumptive nominee of his party.

    Maybe the media will start focusing on the substantive issues instead of minor blips that have nothing to do with people losing their jobs, not being able to put gas in their cars or food on their tables?

  • You knew this was going to happen….right? Back when the media was stabbing Hillary in the back and cutting her throat and trying to help Obama over the finish line. I said back then that they would turn on him like they always turn on the democrats. It happens every year. As soon as we hit general election time they are cutting the troat of the democrat and barely calling out the republican that is doing much worse things. The news media is so dishonest nowadays.

  • There should be no doubt that it is a republican controlled media.

    btw…in you McCain flip-flop list be sure to include how McCain said several years ago that military service was not a qualification for public office to today when he says he’s “stronger on National security issues because of all the time I spent in the military” and that makes him “better qualified than my opponent” (to be president).

  • McCain’s flip-flopping has just become lying without consequence thanks to media complicity.

  • [W]hen a politician changes his views so much that he has an entirely different worldview, and that new worldview is conveniently necessary to win his party’s presidential nomination, is it unreasonable to wonder whether it’s entirely sincere?

    Even worse, that old worldview is simultaneously necessary to win the presidential contest.

    Either he still clings to his old beliefs and is misleading his new-found supporters among the GOP loyalists, or he has changed his beliefs and is misleading his old independent-minded constituency. Probably a little of both.

  • Tim Russert just flip-flopped in his grave.

    [insert the sound of anger glares]

    Yes, I know its too soon.
    My apologies.

  • Obama all CHANGE all the time:

    CHANGE … what you’ll have left after I raise taxes.
    CHANGE … your gas prices upwards, but gradually
    CHANGE … my hat size because every day my head gets bigger
    CHANGE … the national motto to: In Obama We Trust.
    CHANGE … what I do to my story depending upon whom I’m talking to.
    CHANGE … what I do every day to my foreign policy
    CHANGE … what I do to my trade policy depending upon whom I’m talking to
    CHANGE … your lifestyle because the rest of the world doesn’t like you
    CHANGE … my friends when they turn out NOT to be “The person I knew”
    CHANGE … what my radical left-wing ideologue handlers have in store for you
    CHANGE … what I do to facts to suit my needs.
    CHANGE … my previous position in favor of gun control was ‘inartful language’
    CHANGE … my pastor’s screed is OK, yours isn’t
    CHANGE … FISA line that we crossed but I have now moved back
    CHANGE … from public to private campaign financing because I can raise more money
    CHANGE … I’ll debate John McCain anytime, anywhere; except when and where he asks me.
    CHANGE … the words of others and claim they’re mine, because words count.
    CHANGE … the meaning of Bible verses to meet my own liberal world view
    CHANGE … more of you into victims of something and build government programs to take care of you
    CHANGE … you into a ward of the state so that I OWN you and your vote
    CHANGE … your mind and believe in me for I am the Obamessiah come to save you
    CHANGE … into giggling sycophants; liberal mainstream media do under the spell of the Obamessiah
    CHANGE … the chant I use to control the weak-minded Obamanized masses
    CHANGE … into an Obamatron; join the cult, repeat the chant: CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE …
    CHANGE … what I plan to do to America because it’s the greatest country on the planet.
    CHANGE … the national anthems of all the nations of the world to Kumbaya using my messianic foreign policy skills
    CHANGE … into mumble-mouthed idiot when I don’t have prepared speech to read.
    CHANGE … historical facts to agree with my life story
    CHANGE … I said the DC gun ban was constitutional, but now I agree with Supreme Court ruling it unconstitutional.
    CHANGE … what I said because my rhetoric was overheated and amplified
    CHANGE … I mocked Hillary during the primary, now she “rocks”.
    CHANGE … I respect McCain’s service to his nation, so I sent Wesley “looser” Clark out to demean him
    CHANGE … but not for us, not the left-wing liberal elite, CHANGE is for YOU.
    CHANGE … the mortgage industry is a bunch of crooks; but I got my deal
    CHANGE … anything and everything I’ve said or done in my life if it will help me win
    CHANGE … the definition of change to: What I say, when I say it, to whom I say it.
    CHANGE … I can CHANGE when it suits me
    CHANGE … you can believe in for a day or two
    CHANGE … you can’t keep up with

    CHANGE … your underwear because you’ll defecate in your pants when you wake up to find out what the left-wing liberal ideologues have done after gaining complete control of government.

    CHANGE … YOU better freaking BELIEVE IN because it will WORK YOU over.
    Obama: the AUDACITY to count on you and I being DOPEs

  • Is the sound of angry glares like the sound of one hand clapping?

    Very Zen question that.

  • Re #26.

    Now there’s a Troll.

    Just as an exercise, I wonder how many of those could be replaced with Boy George II.

  • @#29

    Now there’s typical kool-aid drinking Dimocratic Obama-tool comment.

    Just as an exercise, I wonder how many more slick Barry Obama two-faced lies will surface in the next few months?

    Ooooops one more just surfaced in his most recent propaganda add. Obama claimed to have reduced welfare by 80%.

    LIE … The Republican Congress passed the Welfare Reform Act which Obama was against in1996. The Illinois law he supported was required to comply with Federal law.

    As usual .. Obama jumped in front of the parade and pretended to lead.

  • Ooooops another one.

    Hobama didn’t vote with the majority of the Senate to censure MoveOn.org for the “General Betray Us” add, but now that he is “moving to the center” and needs some Independent votes, he issued a rebuke.

    Hobama walking the streets for votes … What do you want to hear honey?

  • I actually don’t mind so much a politician, or anyone else for that matter, changing their position.

    What I do mind, very much, is when a person changes their position and then tries to tell me that it was their position since the beginning of time.

    That’s the difference between honesty and dishonesty.

  • 30.
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 pm, Occam said:
    blech, blah blah blah blah
    As usual .. Obama jumped in front of the parade and pretended to lead.

    ===========

    Guy, I’m assuming you’re a Republican, if so, give up, your party is done like dinner, and I mean around the world it is done, and if somehow you guys manage to pervert this election and win, well than, America is done, you are no longer the worlds leader in anything (good) and the world will marginalize you (further) and your once great empire will crumble like Rome (already happening). All thanks to conservatism in it’s current form in the US. Good luck with that.

  • Occam, one change I really look forward to when Obama takes office [and Mark Warner goes to the Senate] is that you will get to be the one to hold the administration in utter contempt. And we will get to be the ones to defend it. For many of the folks assembled here, you will be easy pickin’s.

    Also, I look forward to your tiny head exploding as Obama takes the oath of office. Hopefully you’ll put it on YouTube.

  • I don’t think McCain is a flip flopper at all. I think McCain is a doddering old man who can’t remember what he said five minutes after he says it. Or he is completely overwhelmed that he just reads what they put in front of him. If he gets asked a question, he has some canned answers to fall back on. There is no way this old war dog is going to make it to the convention.

    They have the poor old man running around the country with his hat in his hands looking for donations.

  • %$#& >:( #26

    Talk about fabrications of what facts are. #26 or OCCAM, you must have learned your skills of logical discourse from FAUX NEWS. Is Oxycontin Limbag, or Billshit your daddy?

    WHY DO NEO-PIGS HATE THIS COUNTRY AND THE CONSTITUTION? LOVE THEM OR LEAVE US!!

  • Can someone change my Depends and all Crybaby Cons diapers?

    Obama is the new Reagan! Tons of Republican will vote for him.

    1. Why would a “war hero” refuse to release his Complete Military Records? What is he hiding? Kerry signed the Form 180 waiver and released all of his records. Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Make it a Hundred Traitor War Criminal McBush refuses to do so. Why?
    2. He received numerous demerits at the US Naval Acadamy and graduated 894 out of 899. His 4 star Admiral daddy pulled strings to get him into the Academy. Daddy helped him become a pilot in the Navy despite his despicable record of alcoholism, drug use and womanizing at the academy.
    3. He admitted to collaborating with the enemy providing them with military targets, operations and plans.
    4. He killed 168 US sailors on the USS Forrestal being a hotdog idiot, and his 4 star Admiral daddy promptly
    transferred him to another ship
    5. He admitted to being a War Criminal on 60 Minutes, 1997, CBS News,for bombing innocent women and children
    6. Why did the Vietnamese give him the codename Songbird?
    7. He made dozens of Anti-American videos for the enemy denouncing America.
    8. Why did the Vietnamese erect a bust in his honor?
    9. All Republicans in Congress voted to release government records of POW/MIA on Vietnam, only 1 person blocked it, Old Fart Songbird Traitor McBush. Why did he want those records sealed?
    10. Wouldn’t the Navy wash his records? His father and grandfather were both 4 star admirals in the Navy.
    11. How did he receive medals which required 2 eyewitnesses when there were none?
    12. How did he get 28 medals in less than 20 hours of combat? Did his 4 star admiral daddy give him medals he did not deserve? Some grunts fighting on the ground for 7000 hours received no medals
    13. He told his captors he was the son of a 4 star Admiral who was the head of Pacific Military Operations to receive special preferential treatment and medical care, violating Military Code of Conduct.
    14. There is no evidence he was tortured
    15. There is no evidence his plane was shotdown. He was an incompetent pilot having crashed 4 other Naval planes previously.
    16. He also violated military uniform code of conduct by having numerous sexual relations with subordinates, a crime.
    17. He was not eligible to be released as a POW based on military protocol, the oldest POW is released first.
    18. Daddy helped get him jobs in DC after he returned.
    19. Immediately, upon returning he started having sexual affairs while still married with 2 kids, gold digging until he snagged rich Cindy whose daddy owned the 2nd largest Budweiser distributorship.
    20. Why does he want to stay in Iraq forever? Research his Lobbyists and their clients, especially, Rick Davis and Charle Black.
    21. Some Vietnam Vets believe he is the Manchurian Candidate, do some research on that.

    Google these to learn more

    McCain Songbird
    McCain Adultery
    McCain Lobbyists
    McCain Charlie Black
    McCain USS Forrestal
    McCain Rick Davis
    McCain Temper
    McCain Infidelity
    McCain Phil Gramm
    McCain Enron Loophole
    McCain Arizona Mob
    McCain Kosovo Muslims
    McCain Fortune
    McCain Traitor
    McCain Flip Flops
    McCain Torturers’ Lobby
    McCain Manchurian

    If Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor McCorrupt wins, his administration will be the most corrupt in history.

    Why would a war hero hide his Military Records, Old Fart Adulterer Songbird Traitor War Criminal Terrorist McCorrupt?

    What Would Jesus Kill?

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