The far-right China-Cuba myth that just won’t die

About a month ago, as the debate over coastal drilling began in earnest, Dick Cheney pushed the rhetorical envelope a bit, telling the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that “oil is being drilled right now 60 miles off the coast of Florida. We’re not doing it. The Chinese are in cooperation with the Cuban government…. Even the communists have figured out that a good answer to high prices is more supply. Yet Congress has said … no to drilling off Florida.”

It’s been a common Republican talking point, but it’s patently false — the Chinese are not drilling off Cuba’s coasts. The day after Cheney made the bogus claim, the VP’s office acknowledged that he was mistaken.

And yet, for some reason, high-profile Republicans can’t stop repeating the claim that’s already been debunked. Maybe conservatives have decided that they can’t win a debate on energy policy on the merits, so lying to people about communists stealing our oil is the better strategy. Here’s failed presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani talking to CNN’s resident right-wing clown, Glenn Beck, last night:

“You look at Cuba,” Giuliani said, “Cuba is going to allow China to drill for oil within 80 miles of Florida. And Florida had a 300-mile limit. So in essence, we have China drilling for American oil…. An American company would do it much more carefully. It would be regulated better.”

Maybe it’s my imagination, but it almost seems as if high-profile Republicans have been repeating the false claim more now that it’s been debunked.

TPM has been keeping track of all the examples, and there are some real doozies in there. Some Republicans have altered the myth a little — I think Giuliani is the first to suggest that the Cubans and the Chinese are taking our oil — but they’re all repeating a charge that isn’t remotely true. Either they don’t know what they’re talking about, or they know the claim is false and repeat it anyway. At this point, it’s hard to know which is the case.

The WaPo’s Ben Pershing called it the “myth that keeps on giving,” and a “good illustration of the D.C. echo chamber.”

[T]he idea that communist China and Cuba have teamed up to drill oil just off Florida while the U.S. sits out the game has proven to be just too juicy not to repeat. The blog TPM Election Central has been gleefully tracking the number of congressional Republicans who keep making the same assertion.

Most recently, Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.) repeated the charge to the Ft. Collins Coloradoan, which pointed out to her that it wasn’t true. Her office later acknowledged that she “misspoke.” Other Republicans who have made variations of the same debunked point include Reps. Mark Kirk (Ill.), Virgil Goode (Va.), Jean Schmidt (Ohio) and Sam Graves (Mo.), who was smacked for it today in a column in his hometown paper, the Kansas City Star.

The Internet is fueling this trend in both directions. On one hand, the growth of blogs and e-mail makes it easy for an untrue assertion to be repeated so many times in so many places that people will believe it (see this obvious example). On the other hand, fact-checking sites, digital cameras and the all-powerful YouTube make it more likely that people who repeat the China drilling story will get caught saying it. It will be interesting to see how much longer this particular myth will live on.

It’s been nearly a month since Cheney’s office backpedaled, and his colleagues haven’t picked up on reality yet. It’s not exactly encouraging.

it almost seems as if high-profile Republicans have been repeating the false claim more now that it’s been debunked.

If it wasn’t obvious before that no in the “liberal media” will call any of the fascists on their collective and individual bullshit, it should be now. From the Rovian tactics tried in 2004 through McCains’ casual fictionalizing today, the Repulican Party has determined that truth, facts and honesty are deadweight to be jettisoned at first opportunity. Rudy can fabricate anything he wants to for Becks’ amusement, and Beck will never question it.

Couple this little anecdote with Limbaugh’s grand larceny, and it’s pretty obvious that until the flu takes or they starve in the famine, none of these criminals is capable of dealing with reality.

  • Republicans invented the zombie lie, and it continues to be one of their favorite tools. They can create zombie lies because they own the media, which will allow them to repeat long-debunked falsehoods without challenge.

  • Thanks to the ingenuosly-jihadist, too-stupid-to-be-a network FOX, America’s Constitutional right to lie with impunity has been extrapolated to its logical conclusion.

  • We hate commie Cuba. And, while we’re totally dependent on commie China, we don’t really like them much better. So joining the two at the hip, especially in the dastardly plot to steal *our* oil (and, possibly, despoil all those beautiful beaches where our retirees take their pleasure, in the process) was just too much of an attractive story to pass up.

  • Aournd 40% on the public still believes Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. Never underestimate peoples ability to hold on to a lie.

    Of course it doesn’t help that the MSM does not correct or call people on these blantant lies or untruth. Rather they just call in part of the ‘controversy’ and let it go on and on.

  • Don’t anyone dare mention that if it wasn’t for fifty years of nonsensical Cuba policy we could be the ones drilling for oil sixty miles offshore and that we could also be setting up closed-cycle methanol plants running on Cuba’s copious sugarcane.

  • Just yesterday in my local paper (Bellingham Herald) there was a letter to the editor blaming Democrats for rising gas prices and stating that oil was being drilled off Florida’s coast. Some people will believe anything.

  • Once again, the MSM is doing nothing to straighten this out. Given the fact that the American “low information voter” sees “Red” when wanting to drill for oil thinking it will immediately bring the price of gas down, silencing a riot over an out-and-out lie seems easy and honest thing for our free liberal press to handle. NOT! Wolf will have Giuliani on and never ask a hard question…IN fact, he’ll push the idea if he thinks it’ll help McAce.

  • Either Republican’ts are hopelessly stupid

    or their voters are.

    What more can you say? [other than the lies you are repeating are untrue]

  • Ah, Rudi. Good ol’ Joe Biden really put Rudi in his place.

    Rudi truly was the most unqualifed person running for President this year. Albeit, he was tied for last place with Tancredo, Hunter and some other loser I am forgetting about.

  • libra…
    i thought all oil was “our” oil, regardless of whose land, sand, or water it was under.
    after all, that’s what iraq is all about, isn’t it?

  • An American company would do it much more carefully. It would be regulated better.

    Oh, so Republicans like regulation now? I hadn’t heard. Interesting.

  • I just wanted to mention that the Soviet Union has been drilling for American oil in my own backyard because the government says I can’t and the “experts” say there’s no oil there. But how could there not be oil in my backyard when I live in Texas?

    The Liberal Media is letting Mother Russia suck up all my Texas Tea!!!

  • Um… “is going to” is not the same thing as “is” – I think you’ve got the Republican lie not quite right. Rudy isn’t saying China is drilling, he’s saying that Cuba is going to allow them to.

  • jimBOB hits the nail squarely with the phrase zombie lie. There is no better word for it. Cheney is a master at the technique:

    1] Lie loudly.
    2] Retract quietly.
    3] Sit back and stroke your hairless cat or clean your monocle while your brain-dead minions stagger across the countryside, spewing the lie like vile poison at every living thing.
    4] Work base into a lather.
    5] Rinse with tax cuts.
    6] Repeat.

  • “Cuba is going to allow China to drill for oil within 80 miles of Florida. And Florida had a 300-mile limit. So in essence, we have China drilling for American oil…. ”

    By this logic, wouldn’t Cuba itself be within our jurisdiction? Are we going to have to invade Havana to enforce our territorial rights now?

    Wait, better not say that too loud. Somebody might be listening….. 🙁

  • Insanity is doing the same thing/saying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result: in this case, insanity seems to work. Does that mean we are all insane? Insane McCain ( not an original; I saw it here. I think, from another poster) continues to f/f ( won’t use the term because it is so yesterday) and no one calls the lies, lies. I guess they are not sure which are the lies and which is the truth, so are afraid they might call the wrong position a lie and have to retract it and look foolish.

    I know I am not of superior intelligence to EVERYONE, but I am beginning to wonder if I am not superior to most Americans/USAns. As many here have pointed out, we knew the lies being told when they were being told before 911 and after 911, and today. Millions all over the world knew the lies and made their statements in a variety of ways, yet nothing came of it. I used to think that journalists and the people who supervised them, their editors and publishers, must be of high intelligence because I was taught that these positions required education, common sense and intelligence. Apparently there are some other criteria I am missing. That the Howard Zinns, Noam Chomskys, Phil Donahues, Ralph Naders, Dennis Kucinichs, and many ‘foreign’ intellects are marginalized or totally ignored by corporate media and the general public is astounding to me, and I’m sure many readers here. I don’t know what to do. I have little money to make an impact. I already do not subscribe to any newspapers, magazines, online news ‘publications’ and am a very poor consumer, so my footprint is negligible. My voice is seldom acknowledged here, so I am beginning to wonder if I am really off the track. I had a post the other day, early in the day, and it was the last post on that thread. Oh well, I just keep speaking ‘my truth’, and feeling good about that.

    I am committed to Oneness through Justice and Transformation
    peace,
    st john

  • THE INTERNET MUST BE BROKEN.

    There is a severe shortage of totally appropriate “I drink your milkshake” jokes on this issue. Sad.

  • …for some reason, high-profile Republicans can’t stop repeating the claim that’s already been debunked.

    “I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.”

  • My voice is seldom acknowledged here, so I am beginning to wonder if I am really off the track. I had a post the other day, early in the day, and it was the last post on that thread. Oh well, I just keep speaking ‘my truth’, and feeling good about that. — st john, @ 18

    In reverse order:
    You do that; keeping on and hoping we’re doing some good is all any of us can do.
    Some threads don’t “catch”; not everything is of equal interest to everyone.
    You’re not off track and you’re being read (at least by me). But asking to be acknowledged might be a bit too much; it happens fairly rarely, to all of us (except Mary)

  • Thanks, Libra. Interesting: I am a Libra by birth. Yes, I guess asking for acknowledgement makes me look a little needy and perhaps ego-driven. Yes, I wouldn’t want to be Mary. I wonder about people who seem so impervious to negative and well-documented comments. Well, better stay off that track: some call it projection to criticize others for our own shortcomings. Best to look in a mirror before hitting ‘submit comment’.
    Enjoy the 4th, and remember it is not all about “The Military”. Patriots come in all stripes and colors.

    I am committed to Oneness through Justice and Transformation
    peace,
    st john

  • Actually, it’s true. Two years ago Cuba opened up bids for contracts for their offshore drilling areas that we divvied up with them, and China purchased those lease rights. They’ve been building drilling platforms, but they haven’t yet started actual drilling.

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