McCain and his gang of 300 economists

Last month, when economists, en masse, concluded that John McCain’s idea for a “gas-tax holiday” didn’t make a lick of sense, McCain told a group of voters that economists aren’t to be trusted.

This morning, McCain decided that he actually loves economists.

U.S. Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign today released a statement signed by over 300 professional economists in support of John McCain’s Jobs for America economic plan. The list includes Nobel Prize winners, business economists with experience in the private sector, policy economists with experience in government and academic economists from major universities and state and community colleges.

Considering the fact that McCain’s economic plan is rather ridiculous, I suppose it’s rather impressive that his campaign pulled together over 300 professional economists (I’m going to assume that’s accurate; I didn’t check the credentials of the names) to endorse this nonsense.

But as it turns out, there’s a catch. As Ben Smith reported, “The statement [signed by the economists] leaves out two big chunks of McCain’s economic argument: the gas tax holiday and his promise to balance the budget by the end of his first term — there’s literally nothing in the release that mentions the deficit or national debt.”

In other words, the economists didn’t endorse his economic plan; they endorsed his plan after taking out two of the more transparently stupid centerpiece ideas of the plan.

Doesn’t that tell us quite a bit? The McCain campaign couldn’t even get like-minded economist allies to endorse his economic plan without quietly allowing them to ignore two of the proposals McCain claims to take seriously?

For that matter, here’s another question. For the next four months, how many times will the McCain campaign and his media base argue, “This economic plan must be pretty good if it’s been endorsed by over 300 economists”? If anyone’s willing to set an over/under, bet on the over. Trust me.

And as long as we’re talking about the McCain campaign, economics, and demonstrable falsehoods, here’s another doozy from this morning.

The McCain campaign also sent out a memo, reinforcing the point. “This year, Barack Obama returned to the United States Senate twice to vote in favor of a budget resolution which raises income tax rates by three percentage points for the 25, 28 and 33 percent tax brackets,” Holtz-Eakin writes in the memo. “This would mean a tax increase for those earning as little as $32,000. While Barack Obama campaigns on a promise of no tax hikes for anyone but the rich, we once again find that his words are empty when it comes time to act. In both March and June, Barack Obama could have put the force of his vote behind his words. Instead, he decided that ‘rich’ now means those making just $32,000 per year.”

But NBC’s Ken Strickland spoke with a Democratic aide at the Senate Budget Committee who said there was never a budget vote that said: Let’s raise taxes. What the budget vote did do was estimate how much additional revenue would be needed, and then it would go to the Finance Committee to determine how to raise that amount (raise taxes, close loopholes, etc).

As Atrios noted, “[T]his was a vote to basically have the committee score the various possibilities.”

The Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania isn’t always the most reliable source for fact-checking, but it got this one right when the McCain gang started using the line last last: “[B]y repeating their inflated 94-vote figure, the McCain campaign and the GOP falsely imply that Obama has pushed indiscriminately to raise taxes for nearly everybody. A closer look reveals that he’s voted consistently to restore higher tax rates on upper-income taxpayers but not on middle- or low-income workers. That’s consistent with what he’s said he’d do as president, which is to raise taxes only on those making more than $250,000 a year.”

It’s just another deliberate deception for the list. (I assume there’s a “list.” If not, maybe we should start one….)

One quick question: how many total economists are there in the U.S. now? Like, 315 or so? 318? Or is that just the number of Republican economists?

  • I recall reading on some economists blog that most of the McCain list are really business folk, and not PhD economists.

    Also, given this mornings McCain economic nonsense…

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11553.html

    …even those folks may want to reconsider:

    “The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit.”

  • Is it just me, or are the so-called “Americans for Prosperity” (or reasonable facsimilies thereof) REALLY behind The Terrible-Tempered Mr. Bang’s so-called “economic agenda”?

    And yes, we know what’s @ the core of its articles of faith: The belief in free-market capitalism with American characteristics as Great White Father of the heretofore “enslaved to Socialistic tendencies” Lower Classes, actually “empowering” same towards a New Golden Age of Industry, Self-Reliance, Personal Responsibility, Thrift based on Cash Economy and a Wholesome and Simple Home Life … all the more possible (in theory) thanks to “regulatory relief” as amounts to a back-door endorsement of cartel behaviour.

  • It’s just another deliberate deception for the list. (I assume there’s a “list.” If not, maybe we should start one….)

    Start one. Keep it updated. Link to it at the top of the site.

  • If I read this the right way, it tells me that John McCain loves people who are not to be trusted.

    Yep—more and more like Bush every day, isn’t he?

  • Steve, start one. Definitely. And do keep your list of Flip-Flops updated, too. It’s pretty stunning when you see them all listed on a single page.

    John McCain was for economists before he was against them before he was for them.

    That McCain 180 degree whiplash just turned into an Exorcist head spinning moment.

  • I think Ezra or Yglesias would be good choices to keep a list of McCain’s economic stupidity — it’s kinda in their wheelhouses, so to speak.

    As far as the topic goes, why the hell should anyone be surprised? The GOP hasn’t ran an honest campaign in my lifetime — they’ll distort, outright lie, cheat, rig votes, etc. etc. etc.

    Why would they start behaving with any shred of ethics or moral fiber now that the tide has turned against them?

    If anything, this is going to get worse. Much, much worse.

  • I didn’t check the credentials of the names

    I just checked out one name that looked interesting: “Finis We lch”. It turns out that this is real, though with a typographical error (a space inserted into the last name).

  • “they endorsed his plan after taking out two of the more transparently stupid centerpiece ideas of the plan.”

    With Rove’s formula, it’s all in the framing, nothing new here. Basically just like the four years of “progress” in Iraq. If you liked the press conferences for the last eight years, you’ll love more of the same from McCain.

  • What is with 300? Didn’t James Inhofe present a list of 300 “scientist”, global warming deniers?

    Conservatives go to the “credential” list when their position is weak or they are weak on credibility. Kind of like prefacing a statement with , “frankly, my friends”.

  • Phil Gramm and his wife Wendy Lee are professional economists??

    No wonder the outlook for the economic profession has never been so poor.

  • This Is Sparta!!!!

    – um no it isn’t John, it’s America.

  • It’s like getting experts to sing praises of McCain’s military plan because it said “we need the military” and leaving out “to stay in Iraq”. This has turned into a war of rich vs poor…corporate rule vs ruled by the people. The corporate owned media is on board to spread the propaganda.

    Is Obama’s response offensive or defensive. Are our leaders being threatened with their lives?

    The McCain lies and smears and pure propaganda only proves how desperate the GOP is to maintain power.

    “An armed revolution cannot overcome a fully trained military but it can effectively get rid of its leaders” anonymous.

    Are our leaders being blackmailed by information learned from illegal spying to support a bill which will legalize Bush to spy on democrats just in time for the election? Why else would the dem leadership give him such power…they can’t be that stupid.

    Nothing Obama says makes any sense at all as reason to support FISA…nor Pelosi etc.

    Who would have thought our country could be blackmailed into submission.

  • I’d suppose there were 300 economists on the retainer of the Club for Growth/Greed. This is hardly overwhelming…

    … even if you ignore the fact they drop parts of his plan before endorsing it.

  • Lou: Conservatives go to the “credential” list when their position is weak or they are weak on credibility. Kind of like prefacing a statement with , “frankly, my friends”.

    It’s also like starting a sentence with: “I wouldn’t lie to you…” “No offense, but…” “Call me crazy, but…” “Seriously…” Each is a warning that you’re about to be lied to or offended.

    So, “Frankly, my friends…” means nothing more than: “Check out my next line of calculated bullshit, you ass-faced lemmings…”

  • Bush-Cheney did the same thing back in ’04. Of course, their economists didn’t support the BC04 platform, but attacked Kerry’s plan.

    The same economic hacks that attacked Kerry in ’04 are on the list for McCain in ’08. Funny how that worked out.

    The best part of the ’04 letter is the last line: All in all, John Kerry favors economic policies that, if implemented, would lead to bigger and more intrusive government and a lower standard of living for the American people.

    Bush was able to to trump that by creating an even BIGGER and more intrusive government (phone-tapping anyone?) as well as an even LOWER standard of living for the American people (how’s that ownership society working out for you folks with foreclosed homes?)!!

  • I wonder who reads this crap; loser liberals trying to find other idiots who agree with them? good grief.

  • Looking over the list, many of the signatories are people who held appointee positions under Bush, and would no doubt be looking for a higher position in a McCain presidency. There is a clear conflict of interest with many of them.

  • BTW–Fred @ 17, is that the best you could come up with? Pathetic, really. Try engaging on the substance next time, you sniviling twerp.

  • Fred: I wonder who reads this crap; loser liberals trying to find other idiots who agree with them? good grief.

    Fred, if you take even a cursory glance at the comments posted on pretty much any of these topics, you’ll see that the vast majority of readers and commentators here are far from losers. You’ll see reasoned debate and heated arguments. And plenty of agreement, due in large part to the fact that we have a common enemy: the Republican status quo.

    When you typed your 19 words, Fred, did you have to login first? Or join an organization? Or make a donation? Or pay? Or sign up for the EIB newsletter?

    No, you didn’t.

    That’s because, unlike many large right-wing conservative blogs I have visited and wished to add a opposing comment to, you don’t have to sign-up or sign-in or donate or buy anything to post your thoughts here. The Carpetbagger Report welcomes all comments. Even yours.

    So the next time you get so angry you can’t remember to hold down the shift key when you’re starting a new sentence, why don’t you take a deep breath, count to ten [that’s 1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10] and type something of substance. Yours is the only “crap” I see here, Fred. Not because you disagree with the majority opinion, but because you spout thoughtless vitriol without contributing to the dialog. And that reads like a loser idiot to me.

  • I’m sure some economists aren’t the most socially savvy types. But really, what dillhole WOULDN’T know that the GOP would take any endorsement you give them, no matter how heavily stipulated or how many caveats you add, and make it come across like an unequivocal no-bones-about-it thumbs-up?

    Methinks the answer would sadly be: economists who’d love a gig on the taxpayer’s dime and a taste of that McCainolicious bbq.

    But remember, I’m not a real progressive, so I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about. I should really just go away.

  • This Is Sparta!!!!

    If this were Sparta, McCain would have been killed by his own people. Ah, were there was but one honest GOPer soul brave enough to stop drinking the kool-aid!

    But of course, we all know that a GOPer is neither honest, nor brave….

  • Hm, starting from the bottom I found a few questionable names:

    http://www2.hawaii.edu/~katezhou/kate.html

    Teaching and Research Fields
    Asian Politics; Chinese Politics; International Political Economy;
    Political Economy of East Asia; Developmental Politics; Democracy and
    Market Development; Women and Development.

    Academic Employment History
    July 1999- Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, University of Hawaii.

    As you can see a poli-sci, not an economist.

    Next Paul J. Zak, Claremont Graduate University
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Zak
    His research was the first to identify the role of the neuropeptide oxytocin in mediating trusting behaviors between unacquainted humans in 2004. Zak directs the Center for Neuroeconomics Studies at Claremont Graduate University. His book Moral Markets: The Critical Role of Values in the Economy was published by Princeton University Press in 2008.
    So a person who studies the brain and happens to do it about economics… interesting.

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