A ‘Bubble Boy’ for a new generation

If the conventional wisdom is right, John McCain would at least be a slight improvement over George W. Bush on the issue of The Bubble. The current president famously goes to comical lengths to avoid competing ideas or those he might disagree with. McCain couldn’t possibly be that bad.

But at this point, McCain seems to be picking up Bush’s Bubble-Boy policies and running with them. Carol Kreck, for example, is a 61-year-old part-time librarian, who went to McCain’s town-hall meeting in Denver on Monday. The event was described as “open to the public,” and was held at the Denver Center for the Performing Arts, which is financed in part by tax dollars.

Kreck, however, brought a hand-held sign with her that read, “McCain=Bush.” And as Rachel Maddow reported on MSNBC last night, that didn’t go over well.

A police officer told Kreck, “You have two choices. You can keep your sign here and receive a ticket for trespassing, or you can remove the sign and stay in line and attend this town hall meeting.” When Kreck chose Door #1, she was escorted by police off the property, and told she would be arrested if she returned.

Oddly enough, it was also in Denver, three years ago, when three people were forcibly removed from a presidential event because White House staffers didn’t approve of their bumper sticker. Now, it’s McCain, and a 61-year-old part-time librarian facing arrest for carrying a paper sign at a public event.

If you watch the video, pay particular attention to the question Kreck posed after being escorted away by two police officers: why would a “McCain=Bush” sign necessarily be considered offensive?

I mean, if Kreck brought a sign with her that read “I (heart) McCain” or “McCain=Reagan” or “McCain=Victory,” chances are Kreck wouldn’t have been charged with trespassing, and wouldn’t have faced arrest.

She received a citation, though, for attending a public event and articulating a two-word message that the McCain campaign doesn’t like. The phrase “viewpoint discrimination” comes to mind.

When the White House defends its Bubble-Boy policies, it generally argues that it wants to prevent disruptions from potential protestors at public events. That might sound reasonable enough, but there’s always that nagging question: how does one figure out who a “potential protestor” is? In other words, there’s no reason to lower the bar so low that you don’t even need to disrupt an event to get thrown out of a public event; you’re gone if Republicans think you might cause trouble.

As for the politics of this, had officials at the event simply left Kreck alone, most of the attendees probably would have ignored her and her sign would have been of no consequence. However, by giving her a citation and threatening her with arrest, officials have created a legitimate and widely-reported news story and given Kreck a platform she wouldn’t have had if they’d just let her be.

By trying to silence this 61-year-old part-time librarian, officials at the event inadvertently amplified her message. How amusing.

Kreck’s court date is July 23. I’ll let you know what happens.

Update: I forgot to mention one of the more blatant angles to McCain’s Bubble-Boy approach:

The Washington Post reports that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is now traveling in a new “Straight Talk Express” campaign airplane. It “features a special area” with “a couch and two captain’s chairs” where “McCain will conduct group interviews with the press.” But not all reporters covering McCain can enjoy this new lap of luxury. Top McCain aide Mark Salter said “‘only the good reporters’ would get to sit in the specially-configured section for interviews. ‘You’ll have to earn it,’ he said.” So how can these reporters “earn” a seat? Never challenge the Senator, as McCain biographer Matt Welch explained in a recent interview with the Los Angeles Times.

This story is terrible reporting. How is McCain responsible for a police officer.

When this incident happened McCain was still in Arizona and hadn’t even left for Colorodo.

This was a staged event to draw publicity.

If you went to an Obama event with a sign the police or secret service wouldn’t let you in with it and if you refused you would be ticketed.

The secret service gets all authority on security.

This isn’t a party issue.

The secret service isn’t a partisan department.

To use this and compare him to Bush is not the truth.

Doesn’t the truth stand for anything anymore on this blog.

McCain doesn’t ask voters to sign a loyalty oath like Bush did.

McCain doesn’t screen questions at town hall meetings.

Can this site stop lying for one day. Just one item.

  • When the White House defends its Bubble-Boy policies, it generally argues that it wants to prevent disruptions from potential protestors at public events. That might sound reasonable enough

    And there is the evidence for just how much this Administration has soiled and debased the nation — not that the police saw fit to detain someone for the content of their placard, but that even a progressive blogger will concede that this could possibly be “reasonable”.

    Last time I checked the Constitution — and I admit, it’s getting hard to find the document anywhere in American life — there is no stipulated right to hold an event without disruption. There is a right to free speech, however. That completely trumps any fictitious “right” McCain has to stage an incident-free event.

    I feel firmly that any protester has a right to do so, barring only actual and explicit harm to lives or property — that is, the state has a content-neutral interest in keeping a place safe from physical threat. Never does the state have a legitimate interest in keeping a place safe from a purely political threat. (And hey, Democrats — keep that in mind regarding your own “free speech zones” at the convention.)

    This is as much evidence of our long hard fall as the amazing fact that we’re even discussing when torture is OK or when the government can spy on us without warrants. Bush’s “legacy” has been the deterioration of the concept of American liberty…

  • The secret service isn’t a partisan department.

    Right. Just like the Department of Defense. Oh, wait, I mean, just like FEMA. Oops, um, just like the Environmental Protection Agency. Er, no, I mean just like the Department of Justice…

    Under Bush, every department has been transformed into a political department.

    You want the McCain campaign absolved of this? Let’s see them issue a strong denunciation of the police officer’s action. Better, let’s seem them offer to pay the court costs of the American citizen whose rights have been trampled in the name of McCain.

  • The answer’s simple- she’s a thought-criminal- double chocolate rations for everyone!

    The Secret Police say you’re trespassing with an inoffensive sign, you must be a terr’ist.
    What a matter of national security- clearly she’s an insurgent…

    And the cops act as paper-pushing lapdogs. Clearly they are poorly trained to spot the real enemy of freedom- John McCain.

    Kind of reminds me of the 50’s commie hysteria.
    Throw her in the klink, Col. Klink.

  • Stacy,

    You and your sister Mary need to understand that this isn’t a party issue. It’s a free speech issue.

    And it was a McCain event, therefore he and his campaign are responsible for any ‘security’ calls made at it.

    The End.

  • Stacy wrote: “This was a staged event to draw publicity.”

    Evidence?

    Stacy wrote: “If you went to an Obama event with a sign the police or secret service wouldn’t let you in with it and if you refused you would be ticketed.”

    Examples? Proof?

    Stacy wrote: “This isn’t a party issue.”

    Evidence?

    Stacy wrote: “The secret service isn’t a partisan department.”

    What Bernard said. And I didn’t see a single secret service member in the video.

    Stacy wrote: “Can this site stop lying for one day. Just one item.”

    Can’t you come up with one argument backed up by evidence. Just one.

  • To use this and compare him to Bush is not the truth.

    Riiiiiight.

    Other than the fact that this is exactly the same way Bush ran his campaign stops. And the fact that McCain wants to continue all of Bush’s policies. And the fact that McCain’s campaign is now run by the same people that ran Bush’s campaign. Nope, no similarities there at all.

    Kreck is right. McCain = Bush.

    Oh, and better trolls please.

  • Having read Stacy’s comment 3 times, I still can’t figure out where the lie in the post supposedly was. Maybe Stacy could explain why “McCain=Bush” is such a slur to Republicans that it was guaranteed to get this woman arrested for the publicity?

  • Crap. Stacy might be right on this one. That’s not definite, but it’s possible.

    If the police officer decided all on his own that a middle-aged woman (61 is no longer classified as “old” right? Not that baby boomers are in their 60s it’s middle-aged, right?) holding a sign was a threat to security, that police officer has some ‘splainin’ to do himself. If, however, he was “only following the orders” (ah! memories) of McCain campaign managers who insisted she or the sign be removed, than this is all on McCain. Buck’s gotta stop somewhere, and that’s either with the local PD, OR the campaign.

    Of course, what are the odds we’ll ever get the whole story.

    On a final note, if I were that woman, I would’ve said “What? I love McCain, I love Bush, I love that McCain is continuing Bush’s policies, what’s the problem with my sign? What if I added a little heart AROUND the “equal” sign so everyone knows my true feelings?” Then, if/when the police officer said that would be fine, add a bleeding heart adorned with military dog tags for a soldier who died in Iraq.

  • in response to stacy who sounds exactly like a troll I read on here yesterday.

    McCain may not have been there yet but his forward event handlers were.

    It is obvious they went to the Secret Service people and asked that she be removed. If you had bothered to watch the video the man said Secret Service asked him to remove her. So he then called the police.

    How is an elderly woman politely standing there considered a security threat by the Secret Service?

    A staged event is when someone blatantly creates a scene to draw attention.

  • I’m afraid to say Stacy has it right here, CB. It just makes no sense at all to say that McCain is adopting “Bubble Boy” tactics where some random police officer wrongfully infringed Ms. Kreck’s First Amendment rights. There’s no indication whatsoever from what I’ve seen that McCain or anyone from his campaign was involved in this, and it’s just ridiculous to ascribe this to McCain in any way. The same sort of thing could very easily have happened at an Obama event. The problem in this instance is with the local police, not McCain.

  • Stacy can you please explain why McBush only allows certain reporters the luxury of meeting with him on the Straight BS Express? Or why McBush gets angry if someone asks how his military experience qualifies him to be president, despite the fact he rams it down the public’s throat in every media ad?

  • The police officer got the order from the secret service if you check out other youtube videos of this.

    The secret service has authority for security for BOTH McCain and Obama. So how is this a partisan issue. McCain who wasn’t even in the state at the time this happened is supposed to be accountable for orders of the secret service. McCain campaign managers weren’t there they were with McCain in Arizona about to fly to Colorodo. This happened hours before McCain’s event when you have to get in line.

    It was staged. The group the lady is affiliated with called up earlier to ask where to set up shop to protest.

    The lady is a former denver post reporter. She is known for staging events like this.

    It just so happens that she had a friend video tapping everything then interviewing here afterwards.

    They knew that if they had a sign and didn’t leave they would get a ticket.

    I am not agreeing with it but the it was staged.

  • When this incident happened McCain was still in Arizona and hadn’t even left for Colorodo[sic].
    So, if McCain isn’t physically present then he has no control over or responsibility for outcomes?
    “While I’m sorry for the loss of Afghanistan this morning, I wasn’t there so my administration accepts no responsibility.”

  • You and your sister Mary

    Can Mary talk while Stacy drinks kool-aid?

    As for the story itself, unlike with the Muslim-women incident with the Obama campaign in Michigan, this dude is not some random volunteer. The police are briefed before the event. Perhaps he could have been overzealous, but I’ve not doubt he was responding to a clear message: NO LIBERALS ALLOWED IN.

    If there is evidence that the Obama campaign actively excludes conservatives, even those who may be there to protest, I’ll be happy to read it. Otherwise, enough with the false hypothetical equivalences.

  • McCain=Bush ?

    Why is this offensive to people like Stacy?

    It’s a simple statement of fact AND what 30% of the American poll taking public want to hear, right?

    Wouldn’t a sign stating’

    McCain – Bush !, be considered offensive to that 30% Repo base?

    What you want, Stacey?

  • “I am not agreeing with it but the it was staged.”

    How does this matter? Protests are staged, by nature. That is the entire point of a protest.

  • At this point, I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest that this was anything more than the action of one misguided individual.

  • From the video on Countdown last night, I remember a secret service agent in the mix as well. I guess it all comes down to where they got their marching orders.

    Myself, I believe that the secret service or police wouldn’t act on something like this without orders from the campaign. Logically, they would have freedom to act in an emergency situation, but I would imagine wouldn’t want to accept responsibility for deciding who is allowed into events.

    Besides, if McCain’s campaign had nothing to do with it, they would quickly apologize, just as Obama apologized to the muslims in headdress.

    However, I only expect to hear deafening silence.

  • “My friends I will never surrender to 60 year old libriarians. I will never surrender.”

  • I’ll just wait for an equivalent episode at an Obama rally. It’s ironic these only seem to happen at Republican functions.

  • STILL don’t see any evidence from you Stacy, just accusations and assertions.

    JRT wrote: “From the video on Countdown last night, I remember a secret service agent in the mix as well. I guess it all comes down to where they got their marching orders.”

    Actually, the guy in the video (tan jacket) doesn’t seem to be secret service or police. He says that “representatives of the secret service” have asked that she be removed. He does not identify himself as secret service. When Kreck asked the officer if he was telling her that she was trespassing on city property, the officer points to tan jacket and says, “No, HE’S saying you’re trespassing on city property.”

  • 50 years ago, the Denver Police Department was revealed as a collection of robbers and liars. Then 40 years ago they were revealed as a bunch of morons who were happy to follow illegal government orders and violate constitutional rights on a mass scale when it involved antiwar protests.

    It’s nice to see that some things in life never change.

  • Stacy: thanks ever so much for demonstrating that a synonym for Reightwing Republican Female is Airheaded Bimbo.

    Better fascist bimbos please. This one can’t hide her lack of frontal lobes and opposable thumbs.

  • The “only the good reporters” thing is just creepy. The last thing I needed was to connect McCain and Santa Claus in my head.

  • Our latest Mary incarnation forgot the “6”. Accept no substitutes, folks. 😉

    For me, this is the important detail: The event was described as “open to the public,” and was held at the Denver Center for the Performing Arts, which is financed in part by tax dollars.

    Open to the public. On public property. Financed in part by the public. What on earth were they doing, then, keeping a member of the public away from the event just because she wanted to express a concisely-worded opinion and without resorting to the use of obscenities? This is not the sort of action that should be acceptable to anyone. “Bubble boy” politics aside, how is this not a violation of Constitutional rights?

    We may be slightly premature in saying that McCain pursues the same protections from reality as Bush, but this certainly doesn’t look good for him. Neither does his perversion of access to the press. If we don’t see more incidents like this, I’ll be very surprised.

  • 14. On July 9th, 2008 at 11:09 am, stacy said:
    The police officer got the order from the secret service if you check out other youtube videos of this.

    The secret service has authority for security for BOTH McCain and Obama. So how is this a partisan issue.
    __________________________________________________________

    The same way a car is a way to get to and from work for one person, and a means of disposing dead bodies for someone else. It’s all how you use it. If one of McCain’s handlers went to Secret Service and said “See that c**t there? RIGHT THERE?!?!?! With the f***ing McCain = Bush sign? Throw her ass out!” then Secret Service, in turn, goes to the local police and asks to handle the situation to please the McCain camp, and the local police comes across as the bad guy while the McCain camp and the Secret Service comes across as the good…well, the not-bad-guys.

    Furthermore, the McCain camp could’ve said “If that bitch ain’t outta here, McCain’s not going on, all these people who came to see McCain will be righteously pissed, and you’re gonna have a full-scale riot on your hands and it’ll be ALL YOUR FAULT!” Which would then give the police to reasonably say she was removed “for the public safety.”

    I don’t know this is how it went down the same way you don’t know it’s NOT how it went down. It is merely a scenario. I do know, however, that we’ll never know for sure, because the McCain camp will never cooperate with any investigation 9were there to be one) and the Secret Service will never take culpability were things to have gone down like this. Why? So partisan trolls throughotu the land – TV, print, radio and even lowly bloggers – will be able to say “how is this a partisan issue?”

  • I’d like to say, as a librarian for a public library, I really loved Rachel Maddow calling us “trained democracy superheroes.” It has a much pluckier vibe than “Reference.” 🙂

  • In fairness, I note that no rigid signs or signs on poles or sticks are allowed in our state legislature — because they may be used as bludgeons. If a “middle-aged” woman attended with a cane and a cloth sign, then used the cane to hoist the sign, she would likely be escorted out by the Sgt. At Arms. For what it’s worth.

    I agree with you CB, no dissent allowed at a public political meeting is a dangerous policy.

  • Stacy et al., look at the video. The video shows someone in dark slacks and a light sport coat telling the librarian to lose the sign. When she didn’t lose the sign, he went to the cop. From the video, the guy telling the cop to act looked more like a campaign worker than a secret service agent — unless the Secret Servce is now hiring short dumpy guys. Has nybody actually identified the guy in the sport coat?

  • Greg, the short dumpy guy explains HE was told the woman had to lose the sign or be escorted “by representatives of the Secret Service.” We don’t know who he is, and what representatives of the Secret Service (if any) told him to get the police. So you’re right, ID’ing the douche in the sports coat probably will explain a lot, or at least get the ball rolling. Does he work for the local police? Does he work for McCain? Who were the representatives of the Secret Service that told him to do what he did?

    I’d think an enterprising member of the press would want to find the anwers to those questions.

    I guess I have to wait for some genetic mutation to create an enterprising member of the press

  • Re McCain’s plane and how only the “good” reporters are allowed up front with McGramps: Jed at jedreport has decided the jet should be called the “Lap Dog Express”. I would consider it a compliment to my journalistic abilities (were I a reporter) to be permanently banned, not only from the seats up front, but from the jet altogether.

    Oh, and I love Carol Kreck!

  • “stacy” is a plant for the McCain people. In paying close attention to the videos and the pictures, we repeatedly see a plain-clothed individual wearing a McCain security badge. Not a police badge, and not a Secret Service badge—but a McCain badge.

    This is the man who instructed these “officers” to remove the offensive individual (the 61-year-old librarian) from the premises. He’s a “front man” for the McCain camp.

    Another thing that causes me to think about this is that at least two of these “uniformed officers” have uniform shirts with chevrons on the right sleeve, and a left sleeve with nothing on it at all. I thought police officers had American flags on their left sleeves.

    Do these “cops” now hate the flag—or are they really not “cops?”

  • A quote from the Denver Police department, courtesy of the Denver Post:

    “Our officers received a signed complaint from a security guard at a private event and acted accordingly,”

    Secret Service my backside….

  • Steve @ 35…they must be real cops, they issued her a ticket/summons. It’s on the video…

    Though it would be “funny” if she wound up appearing in court on the date they specified only to be told they weren’t real cops and had no authority ejecting her OR writing tickets.

  • Stacy you are so full of it and McCain does every single thing you say he doesn’t do plus he’s an repressed angry little man who happens to be stupid. He intimidates anyone who would question him and changes the subject or rejects the commenter on nearly every non-softball question. Go play mommy somewhere else. Reality seems to totally escape you. Did you just ignore the last paragraph of the post.

  • McGramps will be in the bubble regarding one area. He won’t be looking at a computer; he will have to be told about anything that’s online.

  • stacy and mary can’t be the same person. their writing styles are totally different. one writes in long incoherent paragraphs, and the other writes in short choppy incoherent paragraphs.

    having said that, their comments are always worth skipping over

  • Steve comment 36…

    Go see the video at democratic underground where they have the representative of the secret service on video and audio stating their complaint when asked who and why…that’s your backside.

  • Someone should start printing McCain=Bush tee shirts so people can wear them to town meetings and then take off their jackets/outer shirts after the event has begun. If there are 50 in the audience so dressed – are they going to remove 50 people? Or start doing strip-searches?

    It would also be a solidarity builder for the left, and the message would have to have an effect on the MSM over time, just as the Wesley Clark remarks are going to affect how the MSM cover McCain’s endlessly drilled POW story.

    Here’s a variation, too – “McCain=Bush – Is That So Bad?”

  • Can you imagine what would have happened had Carol Kreck also been a Muslim in headdress??

    OMFG!

    I was one of four protesters at an event during Reagan’s campaign (I was a John Anderson groupie). I knew the route he would be taking to the coliseum so I stood there, along side my other lonesome friends and a gauntlet of police officers, etc., with no signs, simply a one-inch button with the word Reagan in a circle/slash symbol. Soon a state patrol officer comes up to axe me what the button means? It means “No Reagan”, I say. He gives me a final dirty look and moves on.

    So I feel Carol’s pain. Sometimes it just sucks to be us.

  • Slappy @37, look at the video a second time—and this time, look at it closely. One officer (the one giving the librarian the choice of caving, or getting a ticket) has his rank chevrons on the right sleeve, and the other sleeve is empty—no US flag, no nothing, just shirt-sleeve. But as she’s being escorted away, a different officer has his rank chevrons on the left sleeve—we never do see the right-side sleeve on him. So my question is, since when did Denver PD drop American flags from their uniforms, and how do two different officers from the same department not have the same uniform code?

    Joey @41, Maybe you should revisit that DU video yourself, kiddo. The uniform officers identified the guy in the tan jacket as being the source of the original complaint about the sign, and then that guy says that the complaint came from the Secret Service. So—we can pretty much tell from this that “tan-coat guy” isn’t DPD, and he’s not SS. His jacket-badge wasn’t DPD, and it wasn’t SS-issue, either. And if you look closely at that badge, it’s got his picture on it, some faint text beside the picture that’s not legible, and what looks like a strip of black tape across the top where “department-identity” would normally appear. So you tell me, joey—he’s not a cop; he’s not SS, but who else on that plaza would want to get rid of the old lady with a sign that links McCain to Bush, when the biggest goal of McCain right now is to not be linked to Bush? Another thing, joey—when she was physically issued the citation she was surrounded by four uniforms—and tan-coat guy was nowhere to be seen. My guess is he went back inside to report to his “McMaster….”

  • The Secret Service don’t throw people out of events for signs. They do if the signs have sticks (too easy to smuggle something dangerous in that way). However, the Secret Service are convenient scapegoats for campaign folks. If you say, “it’s for security reasons” then most people will comply without thinking about it. Furthermore, the Secret Service don’t have much interaction with street cops, and street cops may not know what their requirements are. The street officers do have a fair amount of interaction with campaign staff. Therefore, it’s pretty easy for a campaign staffer to walk up to a street cop and get him to believe that the Secret Service want someone removed.

    I feel sorry for the officer who had to do the dirty work. He’s in a very unfamiliar situation, with big consequences for screwing up. Someone who appears to have both experience and authority steps in and gives him an order. He follows through on it to the best of his ability, and he has to know that no matter what, he’s going to be the focus of some really uncomfortable scrutiny.

    As for the “issue” of cops having American flags on their sleeves, that varies from department to department. Some do, so don’t, and even if they’re supposed to, they’re generally just patches that can get lost or torn off. Don’t assume that minor inconsistencies in uniform are evidence of some conspiracy. Cops know each other, generally, and imitating an officer on a scene is just asking to go to jail.

  • @Slappy #29

    “If one of McCain’s handlers went to Secret Service and said “See that c**t there? RIGHT THERE?!?!?! With the f***ing McCain = Bush sign? Throw her ass out!” then Secret Service, in turn, goes to the local police and asks to handle the situation to please the McCain camp, and the local police comes across as the bad guy while the McCain camp and the Secret Service comes across as the good…well, the not-bad-guys.”

    Furthermore, the McCain camp could’ve said “If that bitch ain’t outta here, McCain’s not going on, all these people who came to see McCain will be righteously pissed, and you’re gonna have a full-scale riot on your hands and it’ll be ALL YOUR FAULT!” Which would then give the police to reasonably say she was removed “for the public safety.”

    The Secret Service wouldn’t. The Secret Service are non-partisan, non-political. They don’t really give a damn about pleasing any campaign. They have rules and guidelines for what sorts of signs, but those deal with the structure and construction of those signs (e.g., no sticks, pipes or metal). The second scenario is more plausible, but it’s not very likely. Cops aren’t complete morons. My guess is that the youngish cop who was there screwed up by listening to the wrong people (i.e. the “campaign security coordinator” or whatever that guy in the tan coat was), and now, the Denver police are in the unenviable position of trying to make it clear who is really at fault without leaving him out to dry.

  • It’s perfectly okay that signs might not be allowed at an event – they can block other people’s view. You could get removed from a movie for a hat, for instance.

    But yes, indeed, it seems here it is the content of the sign, not the sign itself, which is being disputed. In situations such as these, it’s up to the campaign to prove that isn’t the case. Think of it more of slander and libel than legal culpability.

  • […] the question Kreck posed after being escorted away by two police officers: why would a “McCain=Bush” sign necessarily be considered offensive?

    On old joke from my mis-spent commie youth:

    A drunk on a city bus is mumbling: “the government sucks. They ought to be in jail, one and all, fucking criminals. I hope they all drop dead soon and rot in hell for centuries”
    A discretely dressed man approaches him: “will you please come with me, citizen?”
    The drunk says: “why? What have I done?”
    The agent: “you have been criticising the government”.
    The drunk: “so what? I was talking about the *American* government. That’s permissible”
    The agent: “yeah, sure; pull the other one. You think I’m stupid? You think I don’t know just which government stinks and is full of crooks?”

    That’s the same principle, which makes a “McCain=Bush” sign offensive.

    BTW… Any bets that he lady loses her part-time job over the fracas? Can’t have arrested criminals corrupting our youth at the library…

  • Seems McCain has been busy lately, what with still trying to get past his bomb, bomb, bomb Iran foreign policy position, his running around distancing himself from his top financial who called Americans whiners for complaining about our economy, his disgraceful comments on our Social Security program, his even more disgraceful joke about killing Iranian citizens with foreign cigarettes, to distancing himself from any talk of viagra and even had his 100 year war platform pulled out from under him by Iraq and still had to work hard to find time to deny vets their benefits. He had to try to locate missing non-existent economic supporters and rack his brain for any memory of saying what he said in the first place about his own economic skills. And this was just Monday. Now the poor man has to remember who is what re: Steelers, Sunni, Packers, Shia. Give the man a break. The man is incredible as he still finds time to issue challenges 24/7 for Obama to appear before him.

    I have a challenge for Mr. McCain.

    John Sidney McCain is hereby challenged to meet with the little old librarian who was denied access to his public forum on public property, issued a trespassing ticket and threatened with arrest for simply carrying a sign that said McCain = Bush – to answer a few of HER questions

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lyaMrS0hzk

    P.S. My suggestion, as requested by the RNC: Vote Obama.

  • I tend to think that charges will be dropped as Ms. Kreck now has ACLU lawyers and in discovery they would ask not only who filed the initial complaint asking for her removal but also for a video of the actual forum which will show if any other were allowed in. They would also ask for whatever documentation there is from the SS and/or the McCain staff as to rules concerning signs and/or protestors, and trust me, the McCain people do NOT want any of that out for public disclosure.

    I’d give a favored organ to be on THAT paralegal research team!

  • Still not as bad as Bush.

    This lady actually had the inflammatory piece on her and was invited to stay without it.

    Bush woulda had Cheney cavity search her either way and then deported to Myanmar.

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