About those 300 McCain-loving economists…

On Monday, the McCain campaign triumphantly released a joint statement from 300 economists who “enthusiastically support” the senator’s economic plan. Almost immediately, the statement looked a little sketchy, given they only endorsed his plan after taking out two of the more transparently stupid centerpiece ideas of the plan — the gas tax holiday and his promise to balance the budget by the end of his first term.

Today, the press stunt looks even worse. Alexander Burns and Avi Zenilman found that many of the 300 economists “don’t actually support the whole of McCain’s economic agenda” and at least one of McCain’s 300 economists “doesn’t even support McCain for president.”

In interviews with more than a dozen of the signatories, Politico found that, far from embracing McCain’s economic plan, many were unfamiliar with — or downright opposed to — key details. While most of those contacted by Politico had warm feelings about McCain, many did not want to associate themselves too closely with his campaign and its policy prescriptions.

Howard Beales, an economist at George Washington University, explained that he signed the letter as “an expression of support for [McCain], not necessarily each and every detail of his plan, which I may not have had time to study closely.”

Constantine Alexandrakis, a professor at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, not only supports Obama, but also rejects the notion that Bush’s tax cuts should be made permanent (a key facet of McCain’s plan). “I would describe myself as an Obama supporter,” he explained. “Maybe I shouldn’t have rushed into signing the letter.”

Apparently, adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin and former eBay CEO Meg Whitman began collecting signatures from economists months ago as a way of demonstrating general support for McCain’s broad economic priorities, not the specific (and ridiculous) 15-page report the McCain campaign released at the same time as the list of the 300 economists.

But that hasn’t stopped McCain from boasting on national television that his plan has received the blessing of “a whole lot of economists, including Nobel laureates.”

As long as we’re on the subject, I’d also note a really terrific item hilzoy had yesterday on McCain and economics.

He has a few ideas lodged in his head, without anything like the background he’d need in order to question or assess them, and without any discernible interest in learning more. He doesn’t keep basic, basic facts straight, or know really elementary aspects of his own policies.

I never thought I’d end up covering John McCain like this. I expected, after eight years of Bush, to be able to argue about genuine philosophical and policy differences, rather than going on about the most basic matters of competence. But McCain’s performance so far is just frightening. We’ve had eight years of a clueless President who governs on the basis of his gut plus a few stray ideas that wafted in on the breeze and somehow stuck. We do not need four more.

Quite right. When Bush decided to run for president during Clinton’s second term, he’d effectively held public office for about two years. He’d failed in business, after struggling in school, and didn’t have a clue about economics (or much else). No one expected much in the way of coherence, and Bush met the low expectations.

With McCain, I’ve long assumed that the entire nature of the debate would change — Dems would be up against someone who was merely wrong, not embarrassing.

But that’s probably been the single most surprising aspect of the campaign so far, at least to me. On almost every subject of significance, especially on the economy, McCain has proven himself to be, for lack of a better phrase, utterly foolish. He doesn’t understand Social Security. He doesn’t understand interest rates. He doesn’t understand how supply and demand affect energy policy. He doesn’t understand that tax cuts don’t generate government revenue. He can’t even begin to explain how he’d keep his transparently ridiculous promises about eliminating a $400 billion deficit in four years.

Under the circumstances, I’m not sure if I should feel sorry for McCain, or be offended that he sincerely believes he should be president.

“I would describe myself as an Obama supporter,” he explained. “Maybe I shouldn’t have rushed into signing the letter.”

Well, it seems to me like the next Obama campaign ad practically writes itself.

  • Howard Beales, economist at George Washington University may or may not be mad as hell and he may not be willing to take it anymore!

    Seriously, how can he not know whether he has read the plan and studied it closely or not?

    Benen, be offended that his handlers and the Republican Party think he should be President and that they will do anything and everything to make that happen. McCain may actually be too feeble-minded to hold in contempt, but the powers that be certainly aren’t. Comtemptuous AHs that they are.

  • He doesn’t understand Social Security. He doesn’t understand interest rates. He doesn’t understand how supply and demand affect energy policy. He doesn’t understand that tax cuts don’t generate government revenue.

    All true. But you have to remember, neither does the average reporter in the MSM. That’s why McCain keeps getting away with this stuff. If we had a press corp that cared more about understanding the issues than which candidate is better at the grill this country would be a lot better off.

  • It’s the old, he’s an idiot, but he’s our idiot.

    I’m sure Meg Whitman will benefit from the tax cuts. The rest is window dressing for her. The point is that implementing tax cuts for the wealthy is very possible and can be successfully accomplished (Congress willing) yet all of the other “stuff” does not hold up to scrutiny and has no substance.

    That’s the point.

  • thorin-1’s point is right on the money, so i’ll only add that i don’t know why you thought mccain was more sensible and better informed than your typical republican: i’ve never seen any evidence of same.

  • Perhaps McCain had hoped for a debate on the issues too, until he discovered that, literally, the Republican base was on the ‘wrong’ (that is, less popular) side of every issue — and that if he were to break from the party position, he’d lose more support from ‘the base’ than he would pick up from Independents.

  • Let’s be honest. It’s impossible to be an expert on every issue facing the nation. That’s why there are advisers and so forth. But a smart person should be able to organize these ideas and understand the reasons behind what the advisers say.

    Despite some differences with Obama policy, this is why I’m going to vote for him. The evidence is that he listens carefully to advisers, asks intelligent questions, promotes debate within his inner circle without people getting at each other’s throats, and perhaps most importantly, learns and remembers what he hears.

    McCain does not clearly have any of these abilities. His campaign is an obvious disaster. Furthermore, his only obvious asset is his foreign policy experience, and his bad calls on actual foreign policy erase that only asset.

    I swear, if not for Obama’s pastor and Obama’s racial mix, I think he would be up by 15 right now. And if he had a few more years of experience, he’d be up by 25. Maybe subtract 2 for FISA.

  • How about being offended that once again the Repugnantcans are throwing crap at the wall and watching the gullible public stare at what they are asked to accept as “art”? I have to truly believe that they are laughing at the American people with these candidates that they have to offer. We have McSame because, seriously, an Repub that hopes to have a future wouldn’t get hear this election … it’s career poison for whoever looses.

  • Yeah, lets all vote for Obama’s tax and spend policies that will leave the country bankrupt. You have to be kidding me. Obama is a joke, and worse, he is bad for our country.

  • “I would describe myself as an Obama supporter,” he explained. “Maybe I shouldn’t have rushed into signing the letter.”

    Gee, ya think?

  • It is a stunning revelation, and leaves me reeling. I had no idea. McCain is incompetent. It is as simple as that. He is proving it every day. He is not just recklessly, even ruthlessly, ambitious, a man who will say or do anything to become president, including repudiating every principle he was believed to stand for, although he is that, too. He just doesn’t know what he’s doing, and hasn’t got the intellect or temperament to function as president. It’s scary. It really is. We can’t tolerate any more of this.

    But we can’t say it, can we? He’s a war hero.

    The media is going to do whatever it can to ensure that McCain gets at least an even chance to become president. What can we do to stop them?

  • As much as economists are revered and idolized in our society, gaining the support of 299 of them should prove as galvanizing to voters as the chance to see naked pictures of Angelina Jolie’s pancreas.

  • Under the circumstances, I’m not sure if I should feel sorry for McCain, or be offended that he sincerely believes he should be president.

    The man is a philosophical, intellectual, political, and cultural obscenity. He is a blight; a plague upon the Republic, the Constitution, the People, the human race, and the planet.

    FEEL SORRY?!?

    An individual who is so outrageously beneath contempt—not merely my contempt, not merely the contempt of the majority of Americans, but also the unmitigatable contempt of the majority of the entire world—is neither worthy of, no deserving of, any form of pity whatsoever. Furthermore, to suggest that he is deserving of one’s “offended-ness” is an understatement equal to the idea that Utopia for a true pacifist would be equal to being in a locked cage with every military battle ever waged on the planet—while they were being waged—simultaneously.

  • Where were you when Dubya was running for office .. I knew he was an idiot but I didnt have the platform you have to make my feelings known.. yes McCain while a patriot is also an idiot . Please Americans , don’t put this man in charge of our government and our sinking economy . It will be a catastrophe on top of a disaster ! I know Obama isn’t perfect but at least hes coming up with some ideas and hes smart . Lord help us all if we get McCain .

  • Why would an economist lend their name to an economic platform they disagree with? That isn’t making any sense to me. There are other ways to support John McCain if they desire to do so.

  • Nobody in Washington understands or cares about the problems mentioned in this article. They’ve been problems for a long time. Also, the people posting here ripping on republicans and McCain should show some modesty. You’re ripping on some very successful people, what does that make you. Lastly, anybody that has jumped on the Obama bandwagon with such zeal is a complete sucker. This has to be your first election. If you want to vote for the guy fine, both guys suck anyways. Just put down the cool aid and at least act like you’re making an objective descision.

  • But McCain will get his votes, as the incurious, possibly feeble-minded, and GOP sheep, will be voting for him.
    Tyrone Jenkins, for example (above), without knowing anything about Obama, and probably never listening to anything Obama has said, just spouts off the usual *tax & spend* propaganda. Tyrone – have you taken a look at the economy, the Treasury, the Dollar, the National Debt, the Deficit, etc? We’re on the verge of Bankruptcy, as a result of ye olde GOP *Borrow & Spend* Supply-Side, Trickle-down, Perpetual War, Corporatism, Robber Baron thing.
    At least with Obama, there’s a chance that People may have some money to spend, to feed the economy, as when our economy flourishes, it’s actually Trickle-Up.
    Give money to the masses, and they spend it.
    Give money to the extremely wealthy, and they hoard it.

  • Tyrone (#9): Tax and spend makes more economic sense than borrow and spend. Borrow and spend throws the market out of whack, makes the rich richer while screwing the poor and middle class, and means that we now spend a half a trillion dollars ($500,000,000.00) per year just servicing the Republican borrow and spend debt.

  • It’s never been about the country but about how to best profit the corps. Why suggest these people are mis-guided or ill informed when they are in fact just stupid. Nor do they give the slightest bit of care about the truth. They ignore anything contrary to their “opinion”. McCain deserves no respect as a leader of this country…he is stupid…period.

    His mere presence makes you cringe. Stands there with that stupid grin spouting stupid comments and laughing as if he is superior because he’s got 8 mansions. He’s stupid.

  • McCain will get his votes, as the incurious, possibly feeble-minded, and GOP sheep, will be voting for him. They’ve got to vote for somebody. Sorry but if anyone over the age of 12 tells me they are voting for Obama my assessment of their possible IQ drops about 20 points. The ultimate empty suit. He runs as Deval Patrick lite with even fewer, well actually 0, accomplishments.

  • Franklin said: “Let’s be honest. It’s impossible to be an expert on every issue facing the nation. That’s why there are advisers and so forth.”

    These guys are JSMcC*nts advisers. They are just 300 people who signed a letter. If they ever sat down with JSMcC*nt and gave him economic advice, you can bet he’d blow most of it off. JSMcC*nts advisers are going to be a bunch of political hacks, just like the Bushites.

  • Don’t know much about history
    Don’t know much biology
    Don’t know much about a science book
    Don’t know much about the french I took

    But I do know that I love you (the American voter)
    And I know that if you love me too
    What a wonderful world this would be…

  • He doesn’t understand that tax cuts don’t generate government revenue.

    CB, don’t make the same mistake he does.

    Very very high taxes do create disincentives to earn money that can be taxed.

    Such taxes haven’t existed for over 40 years, but it’s important to be accurate about these things when we complain about McCain’s lazy reliance on unsound axioms.

    Conditions of an economy as large and complex as ours make it exceptionally difficult to pinpoint at any given time whether more revenue could be reaped from a tax cut or tax gain from a suggested optimal point, that optimal point, itself being difficult to identify.

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