Presses, polls, presidents, and pets

I can appreciate how difficult it must be for a news outlet like the Associated Press to find new and interesting things to write about when it comes to the presidential campaign. For that matter, I can even appreciate that, once in a while, a story with a human-interest angle might help break things up a bit.

But as part of my ongoing fascination with the AP’s coverage of the campaign, I’m afraid this item is just silly.

If the presidential election goes to the dogs, John McCain is looking like best in show.

From George Washington’s foxhound “Drunkard” to George W. Bush’s terriers “Barney” and “Miss Beazley,” pets are a longtime presidential tradition for which the presumed Republican nominee seems well prepared, with more than a dozen.

The apparent Democratic nominee Barack Obama, on the other hand, doesn’t have a pet at home. The pet-owning public seems to have noticed the difference. An AP-Yahoo! News poll found that pet owners favor McCain over Obama 42 percent to 37 percent, with dog owners particularly in McCain’s corner.

The AP quoted one person saying, “I think a person who owns a pet is a more compassionate person — caring, giving, trustworthy. I like pet owners,” and found another willing to argue on the record that if a person owns a pet that “tells you that they’re responsible at least for something, for the care of something.”

Now, as a rule, when I get to the part to the part of a story that reads, “The poll was conducted over the Internet…” I pretty much discount the rest of the content, but this poll and related story are even worse than the usual palaver.

For one thing, the AP notes that the public “seems to have noticed the difference” between the Obama family’s “petless” existence and the McCain family’s dogs. But really, how many Americans really know any of this? I follow the news pretty closely, and I had no idea how many pets, if any, the candidates have. There’s no evidence at all that voters “have noticed” anything of the sort.

Mark Blumenthal went on to explain in some detail why this report is useless.

As Gallup tells us, Obama leads by a whopping 24 points among those age 18-29, while the race is much closer among those over 30.

And what about pet ownership by party affiliation? Or income? As Demmoinesdem points out, these potentially confounding variables may also be at work. And that strong possibility reminds us of the lesson that all pollsters are supposed to learn in their first statistics class: Correlation is not causation. Pet owners may prefer McCain for reasons that have nothing to do with whether the candidates own pets.

But that lesson is largely lost in this piece, because in the lead of the story — and who knows how many local television news pieces run as a result — strongly implies just the opposite.

In other words, go ahead and ignore the poll and the story. It’s a real dog.

You’re forgetting another reason the AP is pushing the story. It’s one of the ONLY polls where McCain is leading.

They need to drum up some positive press for their guy somehow.

  • …for a news outlet like the Associated Press…

    Did you not mean ‘for a propaganda outlet like the Associated Press’?

  • McCain has a dozen dogs and a dozen kids. I wonder if he knows their names?

    How come we didn’t see any of his adopted kids at the big press barbecue?

    Hey this triviality stuff is fun once you get into it. Campaign 08: Triviality Pursuit of the White House.

    OB in 08

  • McCain just needs a pet for each of his houses…not like he has to take care of them or let them out at 4am to piss in the yard…

  • What about McCain’s pets? I need more specificity. If, for example, McCain has a dozen Flamingoes, he may seem out of touch with the rest of the non-flamingo-owning population. Or, if he has a dozen cats, he may give off a creepy cat lady vibe.

    But what about the pets themselves? Do they get along? Do they believe McCain would be a good leader? Does McCain feed them himself, or have one of his many servants (reporters) do it?

    I NEED to know. Because this is a serious topic during a serious campaign, and this reporting is just sloppy. A “dozen” pets? Pfft. Dogs? Cats? Monitor Lizards? More of this please. It’s actually more in-depth than most of what I read in the paper these days.

  • All the pet owners I know favor Obama.

    It’s not surprising that Republicans own dogs, since they can turn them into slaves. I’ve always been surprised to find a Republican cat owner, since cats are such natural anti-authoritarians.

  • FYI, I saw fox news running the results from this poll on their chyron yesterday.

  • McCain just needs a pet for each of his houses…not like he has to take care of them or let them out at 4am to piss in the yard…

    Aw come on. McCain’s up pissing anyway. Like Dr. Pepper 10-2-4. 10 pm 2 am and 4 am.

  • As someone who has been owned by cats — who are not pets but companions — for most of the years when this has been possible (I lived in hotel rooms for much of my life), and who even had d*gs growing up, I’ll agree that Obama’s petlessness — unless it comes from severe allergies — is a slight problem for me. Which means that I now have 1238 reasons (more or less) to vote for Obama and 1 to vote for McCain. Sorry, guy, but your dogs don’t outweigh your total ignorance on economics, your positions on the social issues, your pandering, or your positions on the war.

    (Oh, and just to preempt the higher-level crazies on both sides, let’s anticipate their arguments.
    “Well, Hitler loved dogs too.” Which is balanced by “The REAL reason that Obama doesn’t have a dog is because Mohammed hated them and strict Muslims do not keep them as pets.” — which come to think of it, wouldn’t explain why he doesn’t have cats.)

    Oh, and my cats have declared they can’t vote for either of them, but only one of them is approaching voting age.

  • I had no idea that Obama was dogless. I figured that anyone with political ambitions should automatically have a dog, a wife, and a family Bible, or else be disqualified from office. McCain, on the other hand, is trying way too hard.

  • Anyone ever think of asking Obama WHY he doesn’t have pets?

    …no? Anyone? Man. Even on a completely assinine story reporters don’t do any actual reporting.

  • Gee, I wonder if they’ll ever have a poll that asks “Do you trust a Presidential candidate who claims he’s a common man, but can’t remember how many homes he owns?”

    Hell “Do you trust a Presidential candidate who can’t remember how many homes he owns?” Period.

    Or…question mark. You know what I mean. Eff you.

    Of course, I’m not a real progressive so I don’t know what the Hell I’m talking about

  • I’ve worked in public relations for years and never knew the Associated Press was so politically biased — or so lame. An AP piece in today’s Cleveland Plain Dealer was still pushing the shameless Obama “Flip-Flopping” meme, with nary a word about McCain’s well-documented contributions to the field.

  • Ah yes. Obviously pet ownership is a sign of a responsible person. Take Paris Hilton and her tendency to accessorize with designer dogs. That’s responsible and proof of her maturity.
    Has nobody noticed the shelters full of the cast-offs of many “responsible” pet owners? Until enough people decide that having a pet is a lifelong responsibility and take that seriously with proper living conditions and health care, having a pet proves nothing to me.
    Just how much time does Jukebox John spend with his pets? Do they even know him? I think chosing not to have pets when you live the life of a campaining politician is a responsible choice.

    Oh, and AP … suck eggs.

  • Speaking as a cat owner, may I weigh in here and observe that I wouldn’t vote for McCain for, well, dog-catcher? And by the way, I think that Obama’s happy marriage and his two daughters offer me all the proof I need that he can care for his fellow creatures. McCain’s first wife wasn’t as lucky as his dog, it seems, at keeping his affection.

  • Are the licenses of McCain’s dogs all up to date? Are any of the dogs war heroes? Have any of them ever growled at an Iranian? Do they believe in government bail outs for investment banks? These things may determine the outcome of the election.

  • I sure hope to hell he doesn’t go out and get a puppy now. That would make me hurl. If he does, he ought to cover it in flag pins and ask the idiot reporters if they feel better now. Our media sucks.

  • ditto what T Rex said.

    Just by observing their interactions with family members you can tell who is the more compassionate and loving…and it isn’t McCain who supposedly called his wife something reprehensible.

    In that interview with Obama’s daughters (if I recall correctly) one of them is saying that if they get in the white house they can have a dog!

  • With John and Barbie…er…I mean Cindy McCain on the road all the time, who’s taking care of those dogs? Do those dozen dogs get their walks every day? Are they well-trained? Are their licenses current?

    I’m a middle-aged dog owner and I hang out with a lot of other middle-aged dog owners. In my crowd, the Obama voters outnumber the McCain voters by three to one. Which speaks to the quality of the AP poll – it’s a pile of dog-doodie.

  • Oh, come one. Pet ownership can be relevant. After all, didn’t Mitt Romney have a dog and tie it to the roof of his car once? That seems to indicate empathy issues…

  • Obama’s kids have been promised that they can have a dog in November when the horse race is over. They appeared to be looking forward to having such a pet. This situation simply points out how responsible Obama is – he’ll wait until the whole family has time to take in a new member, their dog.

  • “I think a person who owns a pet is a more compassionate person — caring, giving, trustworthy. I like pet owners,” and found another willing to argue on the record that if a person owns a pet that “tells you that they’re responsible at least for something, for the care of something.”

    I guess that tells us why Mitt Romney lost – who could forget the image of that compassionate conservative’s Irish setter, frenzied, in a kennel atop Romney’s car on the Interstate, communicating with the family by pooping liquidly down the windows…

  • One of Obama’s daughters has severe allergies.

    I get a little tired of some cat folks making comments like the one at #7, which I accidentally read and which was half-assed even by Tom’s usual ready-shoot-aim standards. Dogs aren’t like cats; they’re pack animals (no, prides of lions aren’t the same; thank you for asking) and canine interaction with both humans and other dogs follows that model, which naturally (as in nature) includes a hierarchy.

    This isn’t exactly secret information, but a minority of cat people insist on trying to conflate the two species in order to laud the cat’s independent spirit and the dog’s supposed slavish humility. At best that’s willfully ignorant and at worst it’s laughably anthropomorphic.

  • “unless it comes from severe allergies”

    As I posted yesterday in response to this item in the mini report, my understanding is that one of his daughters has severe allergies to animals, but they are planning to get a “hypoallergenic” dog after the campaign (win or lose).

  • Murdoch and Zell have (or are succeeding) in turning the AP into a stealth version of Faux News. There’s nothing like corporate monopolization of the press. That’s the real story, doggonit!

  • I wonder if this focus on the Obama family not owning a dog is code for his Muslim background? Dogs are considered unclean in the Muslim world.

  • I don’t understand the negative reaction at all. It’s a fun poll, and the results were surprising. Interesting. Fun.

    Lighten up.

  • …if a person owns a pet that “tells you that they’re responsible at least for something, for the care of something.”

    Surely Obama’s daughters count as “something.”

  • Of course McCain has the pet vote locked up, his wife looks like one of those Afghan dogs.

  • Why do i feel like a need a bumper sticker “My dog is smarter than your presidential candidate”?

    This dog owner wouldn’t vote McCain for all the Scooby snacks in China (even if they weren’t tainted with melamine).

  • I’m surprised Mary hasn’t weighed in on this heavy topic of pet ownership.

    I think I’m going through withdrawls and so therefore I’ll try and substitute for her.

    “The fact that Obama doesn’t own a pet shows just how little he cares for his other human beings. How can we trust him to run the country when he can’t even care for a cat or dog. Obama’s willingness to pander to his daughters and promise them a dog after the campaign makes me wonder what other special interests he’ll pander to after he gets elected. You see! We should have nominated Hillary Clinton. They already own a dog and she’d never pander to anyone.”

    I know, not as good as the real McCoy, but I feel better now. 🙂

  • I think Tom was just having a little fun, Maria #24.

    And I bet you would find a personality difference between cat and dog owners, if we asked some poll questions – oh God, now I’ve gone and done it, haven’t I?

    And yes, a pride of lions is a parody of a herd or pack, because there is no organization, no hierarchy. Except, well, gulp, the males loll around while the females go out and do the hunting.

    I couldn’t help but smile when I read the poll. It added something positive to my day. I didn’t take the purported bottom line seriously, although maybe it does mean something. Who knows? I just found the poll interesting, fun, and I don’t understand why others can’t.

  • I’m surprised Mary hasn’t weighed in on this heavy topic of pet ownership.

    The pandering angle is great, JT. There’s also the “Obama’s probably a torturer of small animals” version.

    I think the real Mary is too busy crying over the racism-denouncing Democrats’ “hypocritical ageism” in another thread to pay attention to our frolicking here. It’s hard for her, hating men, black people and anyone younger than she and having to watch someone who fits all three categories become president.

    We should probably be gentler with her instead of mocking her inability to tell the difference between believing a black man has no business being president and thinking someone who exhibits continual forgetfulness, inability to adapt, refusal to change policies based on updated information and extremely poor physical condition–in other words, someone who’s 71 going on 102–really shouldn’t be running for the White House.

  • All I can think of regarding the comment that pet owners are “at least responsible for something” is, THE MAN HAS CHILDREN. Good lord.

  • Oy vey! As a pet owner myself (currently two cats; grew up with a cat and a dog; both species are wonderful companions,) I think the subject of this poll is ridiculous. However, pets have often been used to garner sympathy with the public in past political campaigns; remember Nixon’s “Checkers” speech? Using pets as propaganda props is almost as bad as using children in a campaign that way, but both of those phenomena definitely occur in politics.

    And, by the way, the fact that McCain owns so many pets– from what I’ve gleaned, he owns dogs, cats, birds, and turtles– that’d give me yet another reason not to vote for him– with that many animals in the White House, the carpet would stink for at least the next five Presidential terms!!!!

  • @24: Dogs are great companions. But people do choose them because they’ll continue to love even when treated poorly.

    Anyhow, what’s to say? It’s a stupid poll, not conducted in any way to give accurate results, and we don’t know how the question was asked anyhow, so, as pointed out, we don’t know if this is because dog owners require pet ownership more than others or more republicans own dogs.

    It’s very common in Arizona to have turtles; they’re easy to care for outdoor pets. We have a lizard – chosen, like a turtle – because he eats nothing but vegetables and lives a very long time. (Unlike a turtle, though, he’s never going to get very big)

  • I am surprised that the reported didn’t note that Barack has, quite some time ago, promised to buy a puppy for his girls, when this is over, win or loose. This is very poor research or biased reporting for such a simple subject. Either way, a dog will be in the whitehouse.

  • But people do choose them because they’ll continue to love even when treated poorly.

    “People”?

    Some people do. Some people have children to carry on their own genes. Some people get married for financial security. Some people get roommates because they don’t want to clean their own houses.

    Do you think that’s why most people choose a dog?

  • Didn’t anybody watch the Access Hollywood interview? Michelle Obama said that what the kids were really looking forward to if they moved to the White House was (whispered) getting a dog.

    I know if I was traveling as much as the Obamas, I would think twice about having a dog, but once they settle in to the White House…

  • JT, @32,

    I can’t believe that Mary would be so catty as to put Obama in a doghouse for not having a pet.

  • Maria (#24): perhaps you need to read satire twice to “get it.” The post wasn’t against dogs, but rather against Republicans.

    And sorry, but there are numerous dog owners who take advantage of their friend’s pack mentality to exercise tyranny rather than pack dominance.

    BTW: you obviously have never lived around multiple cats, who do indeed follow the “pride of lions” social model, and do indeed have an heirarchy.

    Perhaps you’re as lacking in knowledge of cats as you seem to believe I am ignorant of dogs? Once again, the shallow misreader or reality reveals herself.

  • BTW: you obviously have never lived around multiple cats, who do indeed follow the “pride of lions” social model, and do indeed have an heirarchy. [sic].

    I think you need to do a little bit of investigating to find out how pride dynamics differ from pack dynamics, Tom.

    Maria (#24): perhaps you need to read satire twice to “get it.”

    Oh, I “got it,” Tom, but while you’re checking out animal group behavior, look up the definition of “satire.” Hint: It’s not a synonym for “sarcastic,” and it’s not particularly hard to do, but it does require a much lighter hand than you’ve got. Nothing personal; wit’s just not your thing.

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