Jesse Jackson gets a little nutty

Even seasoned veterans, who’ve done countless interviews, sometimes forgets to watch what they say around live microphones. Take Jesse Jackson, for example.

If you can’t watch the clip, and in the unlikely event you haven’t seen the clip elsewhere, Jackson was in the Fox News studio on Sunday, and privately whispered his disapproval of Barack Obama’s Father’s Day speech, when Obama told a Chicago church congregation that “we need fathers to recognize that responsibility doesn’t just end at conception.”

Unaware that his comments were being filmed and recorded, Jackson said he didn’t want Obama “talking down to black people,” adding, “I want to cut his nuts out.”

When Bill O’Reilly announced that he would air the off-the-record remarks, and Drudge started pushing the story, Jackson quickly tried to get in front of the story and issued a public apology: “For any harm or hurt that this hot mic private conversation may have caused, I apologize. My support for Senator Obama’s campaign is wide, deep and unequivocal. I cherish this redemptive and historical moment.”

Over the course of about an hour, the flurry of events was fast and furious. Fox News pushed its “scoop”; traditional news outlets scrambled to treat this as a major development; Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) blasted his father’s comments (the congressman said, “I thoroughly reject and repudiate his ugly rhetoric. He should keep hope alive and any personal attacks and insults to himself”); and the Obama campaign accepted the reverend’s apology and sought to move on.

Does any of this matter?

If the question is whether Jackson’s private criticism is going to hurt Obama, I think the answer is clearly no. In fact, it gave Obama a chance to reiterate his message of personal responsibility.

“As someone who grew up without a father in the home, Senator Obama has spoken and written for many years about the issue of parental responsibility, including the importance of fathers participating in their children’s lives. He also discusses our responsibility as a society to provide jobs, justice, and opportunity for all. He will continue to speak out about our responsibilities to ourselves and each other, and he of course accepts Reverend Jackson’s apology,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

In other words, Obama’s message isn’t going to change, whether Jackson approves or not. And as Ed Kilgore noted, “To be politically crude about it, it’s hard to imagine that Barack Obama, whose African-American support is rock-solid, is going to be hurt by an off-the-record complaint by Jesse Jackson that he’s being too morally demanding, particularly as reported by Fox News.”

But there’s also the question of whether this might help Obama. Andrew Sullivan said, “Obama gets his Sistah Souljah moment handed to him on a plate … by Bill O’Reilly.” Bloomberg ran a report, saying, “The comments may turn out to help Obama by emphasizing his call for personal responsibility, a favorite topic of Republicans, said Mark Rozell, a professor of public policy at George Mason University in Arlington, Virginia. ‘It reinforces Obama’s effort to present himself as an advocate of responsible personal behavior, a position that Republican candidates like to secure as uniquely their own,’ Rozell said.”

Ultimately, I suspect the hullabaloo will soon pass, but I think there are two broader angles to keep in mind. First, I can’t help but think this is a reminder of a political/generational shift. Jackson’s the old guard; Obama’s the new guard. There’s bound to be some tension.

And second, it serves as yet another reminder for political figures everywhere: treat every mic as a live mic.

And second, it serves as yet another reminder for political figures everywhere: treat every mic as a live mic.

…and never appear on Fox News!

  • Jesse Jackson has very little credibility where I come from.
    It’s a credit to Obama when someone like Jackson criticizes him.
    Why are these people on Faux news any way?

  • While I don’t agree with Jackson on this…at all, I do find it interesting that this information is the buzz of the day when Obama makes his greatest flip-flop to date… his horrible, cowardly votes on the FISA bill. We spend all our time talking about a stupid comment that has no real longterm implications for the average citizen, rather than a capitulation and assault on the U S Constitution. Do you suppose that the Obama campaign had anything to do with the timing? If so, how clever is that politics as usual?

  • I imagine FOX was hoping that a) they could start a Black Man-Off and fan flames of enmity between the two or, even better, b) Obama would meekly take Jackson’s crap and they could spend the next four months painting the candidate as Another Scary and Irresponsible Negro Extremist Just Like that Big Mouth Jesse Jackson. Neither happened.

  • Interesting that Mr. Jackson wants to reduce the procreative capacity of someone who both practices and preaches for more responsible fatherhood.

  • perhaps jesse was suggesting, subsequent to barack’s multi-lingual speech, that he speak to african americans in ebonic.

    jesse’s a good example of a person whose success is based on perpetuating the past. now that the other jesse is dead he must not know what to do with himself.

  • after years of demonizing Jesse Jackson, I’d think Fox News’ attempt to use his comments to attack Obama could/would backfire. A sorta “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kinda deal.

  • I’m kinda with slappy magoo on this one. If JJ doesn’t like Obama and thinks he’s too hard on black people, then that’s liable to play quite well on Obama’s favor to a Fox news (and wider) audience. From Fox’s perspective, it’s simply too good – even if it’s pointless, low level campaign chatter – to miss. Fox is on a ratings slump and they are scouring for any hint of an ‘exclusive controversy’.

    It’s hard to feel sorry for Jackson. If you go on Fox, then expect them to use anything and everything you say, infer or mumble ‘off-mic’ as a stick to beat the Democrat candidate with. Did he expect fair and balanced treatment, or was it just that he couldn’t resist some airtime for himself?

  • Slow election news day.

    To MSNBC’s Morning Joe’s credit they also showed a cip related to McCain getting nervous about nut-pills:

    Questioner: I guess her statement was that it was unfair that health insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control. Do you have an opinion on that?

    McCain: (after 8 second pause) I don’t know enough about it to give you an informed answer because I don’t recall the vote, I’ve cast thousands of votes in the Senate. I will respond to – it’s a, it’s a… (nervous)

  • Jackson’s true colors shine through again. Imagine if a white man had said a similar statement while referring to Obama. Jackson would have been first on the list to cry “Racism!” He is a sad, pathetic man.

  • JJ has proven to be a disappointment before..
    Does anyone recall his infamous “Hiemy-town” description for New York City?
    Jesse Jackson has more iin common with the late Jesse Helms than he does with either Barack Obama or Martin Luther King Jr.

  • It’s quite possible that Jackson hoped this would be picked up. He’s from the any-publicity-is-good-publicity school, after all. He’d know he’d get some big attention as a result (and he’s got to be missing that); he’d also know that Obama could capably and deftly deflect the criticism and end up being more acceptable to some white voters because of it. Everyone wins.

  • Does anyone recall his infamous “Hiemy-town” description for New York City? Jesse Jackson has more iin common with the late Jesse Helms than he does with either Barack Obama or Martin Luther King Jr.

    I’m not defending the Hymie-town remark, which was grossly offensive, but that was, if I’m not mistaken, the only incident of its kind in Jackson’s career, and he apologized at length and apparently sincerely for it. I’m not a huge fan of Jackson’s–I recognize that he sees his function primarily as a dramatic raiser of issues rather than as a political figure possessing gravitas, full perspective and follow-through–but to compare him to a man who spent his entire life suppressing other people’s civil rights is really beyond the (forgive me) pale.

    One remark that made a lot of white people mad does not equate with a lifetime of oppressing black people, regardless of a few white people’s inability to look past their own experience.

  • “One remark that made a lot of white people mad does not equate with a lifetime of oppressing black people, regardless of a few white people’s inability to look past their own experience.”

    This is 2008, not the 60s. If Jackson can’t continue to convince inner-city blacks that “the man” is keeping them down, he is out of a job- and he knows it.

  • Heh – Jackson doesn’t need to do anything, the FISA vote showed that Obama has already handed his nuts to someone else.

    And yeah – I wouldn’t be surprised to find out this was mildly co-ordinated. Mildly, as in Jackson made the statement accidentally, realized he’d been caught on mic, and then called up his son (who is, after all, the co-chair of Obama’s national campaign) and got them on the offense before O’Reilly could make hay out of it.

    Not that I’m sure what hay, exactly, could be made out of the headline “Jesse Jackson Critical of Obama” that would actually hurt the Obama campaign at this point. I mean, anyone who follows politics should probably know that Jackson is going to be critical of Obama (unless you’re an idiot who think that “all black people think the same way”, I suppose). This would be like a headline reading “Ralph Nader Critical of Obama” or “Noam Chomsky Critical of Obama” – not really newsworthy at all, except to the extent that statements from these folks always make news. I guess the crassness of the statement might be newsworthy, maybe, but then like I said I’ve seen similar sentiment towards Obama in the last few days so it seems kinda “so what” to me.

  • for once Jackson is right…..obama talks down to blacks….obama talks down to whites, …obama talks down to hispanics…obama talks down to the Jewish religion….obama talks down to women….WHAT IS NEW ABOUT THE NASTY obama…..

  • Jesse Jackson has been saying exactly the same things as Obama and Bill Cosby for years and years and years. If you don’t know that, then maybe you need to get out more. It has been a GOP talking point for years and years and years that “civil rights leaders” like Jackson are purveyors of a rhetoric of victimization and are out of touch with the black community.

    We don’t know why Jesse Jackson said what he said. Unfortunately, we will probably never learn, since the present environment will not allow him to explain what he meant. Assuming that the statement was a projection of some sort, it suggests that Jackson sees Obama’s comments to be emasculating to black men. Why? Wouldn’t you be interested in knowing that?

  • mary b, Obama’s not talking down to anyone. It’s just extremely stupid people tend to feel threatened by smart people when those smart people don’t intentionally dumb their message down for the masses, and as a result think the smart person is talking down to them.

    What…can’t tell the difference? 🙂

  • LOL on Jesse Gets nutty, CB.

    Obama’s nuts. Jess made a gaffe when he was wanting a gaff.

    Jesse actually was just saying he wished he had Obama’s balls.

    In the FISA vote Hillary had more balls than Obama though.

    No need for Jesse to cut off Obama’s balls, Obama reaches across the aisle and hands over his nuts on demand.

  • Hey slappy, @21, I might agree with you if you were like a real progressive, ya know.

    Mary b, Obama is kinda tall. He has to talk down to everybody but basketball players. To them he just talks trash.

  • Slappy, everyone has the right to make their own opionions from what they hear and read. That does not make them stupid or smart, it is how they are precieving the message. My opinion is that your comment was a bit harsh.

    Jackson’s comment us unfortunate but will not determine who I vote for. I will vote for the candidate that I feel will do the best job for our country.

  • This could be the introduction a new campaign strategy. Off-mic messaging. Pretty soon, the tv producers will be saying, “Now this microphone is definitely off.” Wink. Wink. There’ll be on-mic talking points and off-mic talking points.

  • I mean, anyone who follows politics should probably know that Jackson is going to be critical of Obama (unless you’re an idiot who think that “all black people think the same way”, I suppose).

    But your parenthetical describes FOX and its audience, which is why it’s so amusing that Obama and the two Jacksons played this so deftly.

  • The Rev. Al Sharpton, president of the civil rights group National Action Network, said Jackson’s remarks were “most unfortunate,” adding he was happy that Jackson apologized.

    “I hope people will remember the great work he’s done in this country as one assesses this last incident,” Sharpton said in a statement.

    apologize and move on.

    remember the great work he had done.

    NOT QUITE THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT THE REVEREND AL HAD ABOUT DON IMUS!!! HUH????????

  • •••”If I were a candidate, I’d be all over Jena,” Jackson said, according to the The State newspaper. “Jena is a defining moment, just like Selma [Alabama] was a defining moment.”•••

    well rev. jackson, you are not a candidate and have totally moved past that opportunity years and years ago. as far as the national publicity goes, you are keeping a low profile because you have to.
    i applaud your son coming forward and stating that your rhetoric is non-productive and doesn’t see it the way you see it…

    get over it rev. jackson.

  • Am I the only person here who found the whole incident hilarious? ‘Cause it actually had me laughing out loud.

    It’s no big deal. Faintly amusing, but that’s it really

  • mary b: obama talks down to blacks….obama talks down to whites,…

    mary, that’s what happens when speaking from a dais.

  • Jesse Jackson’s career is based entirely on riding the wave of the MLK legacy. He has always been a mean-mouthed racist (remember hiemy town?). His continued public survival is only because half of what he says is unintelligible.

  • ‘It reinforces Obama’s effort to present himself as an advocate of responsible personal behavior…

    Isn’t this exactly what Black Liberation theologists advocate? That personal responsibility is misconstrued by whites to imply separatism is just bizarre. Or are they just plain terrified of the word separatist since they invented the notion? Or maybe it’s that since more churches are integrated now, white christians fear a loss of funds for their own coffers if blacks unite under one church that isn’t white.

    Jesse Jackson was neutered long ago. Young blacks probably don’t know and don’t care who he is. He’s at best a showboater, not a leader, which is why he never rose to the heights of his mentor, Martin.

    I believe his comments are the ugliest form of “dissing”, a term I understand to have originated in the black community when one of their own rises above the rest. Dissing is used to keep a black person down by other blacks, fraught with envy, lacking the courage or initiative to embrace their own liberties. I think of it as the “Mister Syndrome”. You may recall “Mister” was a character played by Danny Glover in the movie, “The Color Purple”, who sadistically mimics the behavior of his former oppressors. This particular brand of bigotry has been as toxic to the black community as white separatism.

    From the Christian Century: “Such charges are really aimed at Obama, rather than Wright or Trinity. By trying to link Obama to black radicals, they attack one of Obama’s political assets: his seeming ability—shared by Colin Powell, Oprah Winfrey and Michael Jordan—to “transcend” race. Because Obama is able to do this, he invites the white support that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson lack (which perhaps explains the decided coolness of some black leaders toward Obama’s candidacy).”

  • jesse jackson, also known as bar towel jackson! jesse jackson with the betty boop set of lips! jackson and the stage show! poor poor obama type of slander! make a story other than the issues type comment! obama wants our american children to learn spanish? jackson supports this with obama? jackson walks talks side by side with obama period. sharkskin too! CNN blacks and america coming soon! think it’s a story of crime on america by BLACKS? showing hate crimes that go unpunish? NEWNATION.ORG! jena six on one white was a issue for all our great great civil rights black leaders” but” not three blacks murdered by a illegal immigrant execution style by a illegal let out on bail for child rape? “WHAT” issues, blacks graduate in detroit only 24.6! across our nation that number is 55% ! black crime” not a issue? illegal immigrants in our work force is not a issue for the black leaders jackson obama? issues that effect americans lives daily” lost jobs! filth in our food produce” and filthy workers! spanish now? required gay reading to 2nd grade children! democrap issues! our children will have to learn spanish now OBAMA!!!! JACKSON!!!! white children? must be blacks don’t graduate now do they? yep race bate jackson” jackson a great great civil rights black leader! fact seems that all the great great black leaders are great great civil rights leaders are they NOT? rev. jackson the store front preacher and great great black civil rights leader period. JACKSON malicously utters to injure the reputation of our great great obama of change!!!! yeah we will all speak or learn spanish? michigan democraps all voted against english as the official language! english not the official language of our country obama? obama washington the culture change future for change he speaks of is what” spanish culture change!!!! now thats a issue america! E- VERIFY strong enforcement! BROADCASTER FREEDOM ACT” (H. R. 2905) for a up” or down” vote? NANCY PELOSI san francisco’s liberal democrap! anything on these issues obama? i mean you and your party are doing all you can to protect all american workers are you NOT! yep jesse jackson makes liberal news” race bate news for whites to feel sorry for poor poor obama!!! obama gun in one hand knife in other our great great candidate for corporate america NAFTA president. but wait” we have mcCain the other NAFTA candidate” he thinks english should be the official langauge! the biggest free trader candidate so he SAID! THE TWO AMIGO’S AND AMNESTY CANDIDATES!!! NAFTA free trade amnesty h-1 h-2 visas for import labor” gee anything for american citizens for a CHANGE? YES more taxes!!!! INDEPENDENT now thats a big time change period. replace them before they replace YOU! michigan little big horn AMEN.

  • So now Mr. Disloyal has turned on one of his own and fed Rev. Jackson to the lions. How can we trust a president who won’t even stick up for his own race? Race traitorship is what got us Mr. Senator Pukey instead of the more qualified candidate, who would be the next president if so many dumb young white Americans hadn’t been so in love with the idea of proving their “open-mindedness.”

    Meanwhile, almost every single African American voted for Obama, just as I predicted, proving that they all make decisions by skin color. If they’d chosen by content of character, they would have picked Clinton and been grateful to her for all she and Bill have done for them. It stinks.

  • This is an obvious plant by Obama’s people. After Obama flipped on the FISA vote and the speak Spanish micue Jesse stepped up and put his foot in his mouth to relieve Obama of his latest bungle. Good move by both parties since most people think Jackson is a loon anyway.

  • Meanwhile, almost every single African American voted for Obama…

    While the married ones of course voted Hillary.

    😛

  • A poor attempt by FOX news to fracture the black vote. Of course, since they have the mindset of the bigoted, homophobic, republican, and old people who just hate change, people that are their fans, they thought they could do this. Good to see that FOX has really lost touch with reality. Every day someone figures out that they are unethical propaganda whores and their fan club loses a member.

  • Always hopeful are you saying this shouldn’t have been reported? If McCain said that it’d be all over the media from now until November. Obama doesn’t need any help fracturing the black vote he does that well enough on his own. Think about what he said on Father’s Day….”father’s that pay child support should be rewarded…” How condescending is that? By the way what news do you watch, MSNBC?

  • Too bad so much time has been devoted to such crap talk making it all about race, which it isn’t, when there are real issues for this country to discuss and consider before this election. Idealism is exactly that, and not reality… let’s take a look at what has Obama really accomplished, or McCain for that matter . . . actions speak louder than words. Then you decide.

  • ALOHA LITTLE KAHONIES
    We should all chip in to buy Jesse a small pair of clippers … after which, he’d have a couple of little items to raffle off in the next Obama fund raiser.

  • I am still pretty young, but I have heard lots a comments about Jesse Jackson that were not cool. After hearing what happened, I found it humorous. He could have at least been smart enought to say it at home, not with mics and infront of cameras. I give Obama props, because he is showing the world, he is not ‘SO POLITICAL” He is getting on the personal level.
    He’s only telling men to take care of what is theirs. There is nothing wrong with that. And the funny thing is, when November get’s here, those deadbeat dads, will be voting for Obama!! Enough said. Now Jesse James “put that in your pipe and smoke it”

  • […] as Ed Kilgore noted, “To be politically crude about it, it’s hard to imagine that Barack Obama, whose African-American support is rock-solid […]

    According to Bob Herbert (of NYT), much less so now, after the past couple of weeks beginning with his approval of the House’s cave in on FISA.

    […] this is a reminder of a political/generational shift. Jackson’s the old guard; Obama’s the new guard. — CB

    Is Jackson really all that much older than Bill Cosby? Because Cosby has been “preaching” the responsibility of black fathers for years. In that respect, I found Obama’s Father’s Day speech almost identical to (with?) Cosby’s philosophy.

  • Castration and other mutilation was frequently a part of the lynching of black men for a wide variety of real or alleged offenses. Rape was not the most frequent excuse, some of which were petty, insignificant and seem incredible. People were lynched for “crimes” such as registering to vote, arguing with a white man, disrespect to a white woman, shoplifting, drunkenness, elopement, insults and refusing to give evidence.

    In A Festival of Violence: An Analysis of Southern Lynchings, 1882-1930, authors Stewart Tolnay and E.M. Beck list 75 recorded reasons why blacks were lynched, including “being obnoxious, disorderly conduct, indolence, suing white man, trying to vote, vagrancy and unpopularity”

    So the Rev. Jackson’s sotto voce urge to castrate Obama for “talking down to black folks” has a long tradition among murderous white racists.

  • Jesse Jackson is still a pillar of the African American Community! He is very important to the community! As a matter of fact, his comments made were a reflection of many opinions within the African-American Community!

    The Obama campaign has brought out many different and diverse opinions and debates within the African-American Community! The only mistake made was Jesse Jackson’s unawareness of his microphone being on! Nothing else matters!

    I happen to share the same opinion of Jesse’s comments because it was frustrating for me as an African American male to swallow some of the speech comments made by Obama in the churches and community.

    While I’m still a supporter of Obama candidacy, I don’t always agree with what he say’s and does throughout his campaign.

    Jesse Jackson comments are made by people on a daily basis within the African-American communities and businesses such as barbershops and beauty salons.

    I sincerely believe that Jesse Jackson loves and supports Obama’s campaign! It doesn’t mean that they always agree on everything! It was only unfortunate that the comments were brought out in the media and public.

    We still love you Jesse Jackson! Don’t beat yourself up!

  • I actually think there is something terribily wrong about Jackson’s comment. It is offensive for him to think he’s the person who should be correcting Obama’s comments on the culture of family abandonment. And the way he said it demonstrates a total arrogance which his accomplishments in life really do not support.

    You’re a pathetic fool Jesse Jackson! You should beat yourself raw!

  • Hey …. When Jessie speaks.. companies get out their wallets… man.. cant you people see that the worst form of racism is what the liberals are doing to buy the black vote… your govt programs keep the minorities uneducated, poor, unmotivated.. but it gets you votes.. its worse than the old days of George Wallace.. I actually agree with your boy Obamma when he said that its time for the fathers to take responsibility.. now if he can come out and say that its time for the minorities to take responsibility for their own lives and get jobs and make something of themselves instead of waiting for a leftist, vote buying handout… I Might ….shudder…….shudder…. even vote for the guy… but …. I am pretty safe there… as long as the left buys the minority vote and keeps them uneducated on the dole they have a chance of being in offfice.. … Bubba said that….
    ps… hey MsMuddled.. I missed you too… I resonded to your post from last night …but not till tismorning…. wow.. your side is all topsyturvy as of late.. whats up with the malcontents on the left.. things not going well for the socialists….hey you are always welcome here at the gun club… would love to have you on my side…

  • Dr. Bonner’s!!!!!! Hahahaha! Great! Perfect. Couldn’t figure out why it sounded so familiar! This whole thing is hilarious. Thanks for the comedy, Jesse.

  • Bubba!

    I’ll wash your truck if you tote me to the polling place in November, how’s that? I’m saving funds to buy gas just for that day and if you promise to vote for Obama, I’ll even rotate your tires and change your oil.

    MissMudd said that!

    And I never *buy* anyone votes myself. Charm is all you need. Rotating tires helps too.

    Good to see ya again, Cowboy.

  • Hey MsMuddled … gotta get on the road again.. be back first part of next week…
    Keep the lefties together for me till I get back…
    Remember .. the only good PUMA is a loud PUMA>>>>>
    Bubba said that…..

  • Kenneth ( Response #49):

    Some Blacks no longer perceive Jesse Jackson as “pillar in the Black community” and haven’t for a long time . He is more like a high-fat meal. You know, fattening and comforting at times (if you are so inclined to partake) , but with no nutritional value. Veggies, like the truth, are not often the best tasting thing on the plate, but they are necessary for healthy living. Jackson’s display of moral ineptitude in recent years (fathering a child out of wedlock) took a lot of steam out of his previously existing respect level. Yes, it may have been thrilling to some to watch him run for President back in the day, but that does not give him the right ot use such invectives against Barack Obama. His statement was not a simple disagreement of opinion. It was crude, unhelpful and sick given the history of race in this country and Jackson’s participation in ( and understanding of the history of) racial matters. He needs help. It is extremely instructive and helpful to have a candidate who is willing to look at the truth of this particular matter and be courageous enough to state it – even if it doesn’t feel good to those who are involved in the behavior he takes issue with. Obama is not absolving ( or blaming) EVERYONE of their responsibilities in the current state of affairs, but he was speaking to a specific group of African American men. Don’t think for a minute that this was easy for him on a personal level. He considers himself to be a Black man, but a responsible one. HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH. It is ugly and painful, but it is true! There is NO DEFENSE of it.

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