Rove, feeling shy, ignores subpoena and blows off Judiciary Committee

As a rule, Karl Rove’s word isn’t worth much, but today he did exactly as promised — he said he’d blow off a House Judiciary Committee subpoena, and that’s precisely what he did.

Former White House adviser Karl Rove defied a congressional subpoena and refused to testify Thursday about allegations of political pressure at the Justice Department, including whether he influenced the prosecution of a former Democratic governor of Alabama.

Rep. Linda Sanchez, chairman of a House subcommittee, ruled with backing from fellow Democrats on the panel that Rove was breaking the law by refusing to cooperate — perhaps the first step toward holding him in contempt of Congress.

Lawmakers subpoenaed Rove in May in an effort to force him to talk about whether he played a role in prosecutors’ decisions to pursue cases against Democrats, such as former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman, or in firing federal prosecutors considered disloyal to the Bush administration.

Rove had been scheduled to appear at the House Judiciary subcommittee hearing Thursday morning. A placard with his name sat in front of an empty chair at the witness table, with a handful of protesters behind it calling for Rove to be arrested.

Rove and his attorney had offered lawmakers a chance to chat “informally” about the U.S. Attorney purge scandal, but Rove wouldn’t have been under oath, and there’d be no transcript or official record of the discussion. Dems, instead, subpoenaed Rove to give formal testimony.

Rove’s lawyer cited (.pdf) executive privilege in arguing that Rove “is immune from compelled Congressional testimony.” The House Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law didn’t see it that way, and voted to find Rove’s claims of immunity invalid.

So, what happens next?

There are, of course, two pending questions on executive privilege, stemming from White House chief of staff Josh Bolten’s and former White House counsel Harriet Miers’ decision to blow off a congressional inquiry into the same controversy. That question is pending in court, and probably won’t be resolved anytime soon.

In the meantime, the full Judiciary Committee and, eventually, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, will have to decide whether to pursue contempt charges against Rove.

Kate Klonick reminds us, “Since Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) threatened contempt last week, we’re expecting a vote on that in the near future, but it won’t be happening today.”

I’d just add that Conyers isn’t likely to let this slide. In mid-May, Conyers casually told some associates, when he thought no one else was listening, “We’re closing in on Rove. Someone’s got to kick his ass.”

Careful. Kicking Turd Blossom in the ass may cause more than gas to be expelled. Hiding under a rock all these months has made him look a bit pale too. Poor fellow. Perhaps some jail time would put some color in his cheeks. Maybe his cell mate could help out a bit with a nice back massage….

  • The Democratic Leadership could for once show some spine and actually hold this creep in contempt. Having blown it on Impeachment and FISA Telecom Immunity, I would think little San Francisco “I will make the Super Delegates Decide” Dominatrix Nancy will least try to look like a liberal Democrat ONCE this year.

  • What happens next?

    Are you kidding me? Haven’t you been paying attention?

    Nothing happens.

  • I agree that someone needs to kick his ass. We’ll have to see if Congress is up to the task. If not, it’s pitchfork and torch time, folks!

  • I think that the House should accede to Rove’s conditions and allow him to testify, off the record, in a closed room.

    While that’s going on, the appropriate Committee should vote to find Rove in ‘inherent contempt,’ and send the Sergeant-at-Arms down to arrest him and lock him away until such time as he agrees to testify.

  • What happens next?

    Maybe Pelosi will distract us by bringing up the next item on Bush’s agenda.

  • So…this means we won’t be hearing any noise from republicans when they subpoena aides of President Obama, and they don’t show up right?

    Follow up, have the sergeant at arms round rove up and leave him locked in the capitol building’s basement until he decides to talk. And just to make things go quickly, we can go ahead and try out some of those “enhanced interrogation techniques” that rove helped approve. I mean, they’re not torture according to rove and company, so he can’t complain when he’s subjected to those same techniques.

  • Yeah, Harriet Myers might finally have a cellmate in the D.C. jail.

    Oh, wait …

  • Wow. It’s not surprising that he didn’t show up. I have to admit I am slightly surprised they haven’t gone to arrest him. I mean, what would happen to someone else who ignores a congressional subpoena?
    That’s pretty arrogant.
    Well, we have him on trial in our little universe, so come on by and watch…
    http://www.funwithwarcrimes.com

  • I’m with you Always Hopeful.

    That’s why I’m such a staunch defender of an individuals right to bear arms. Forget the pitchforks and torches. I am also of the philosophy of acquiring weapons(or calibers) similar to those that will be used against us by the police/state/military, that way your stockpile need not be so large(assuming you survive your engagements with said police/state/military). One of my buddies in my group is a recently returned soldier from Iraq and he sees the writing on the wall and he’s preparing. Some real life tried and true tactics should cut through local police and weekend warriors.

    We’re not preparing for war; we plan on heading for the hills. But if the war should be brought to us…well, we already know how great we are at fighting guerillas in their own backyard.

  • Maybe the health spa located at Guantanamo would help Rove loosen his tongue a bit. After all, the Republicans are always saying how nice it is down there…. maybe he should spend some time thinking it over in a cell… er, I mean Suite.

  • It’s interesting that Karl has declared himself immune from compelled Congressional testimony. I’m confident that Congressional Republicans will, without cavil, extend the same immunity to members of the Obama administration.

  • And before anyone gets any ideas, I’m not planning on Wolverines’ style raids, a la Red Dawn. I’m preparing for the worst, hoping for the best, and voting for Obama in November and trying to get any friends/family that will listen to do the same. That will hopefully lift us out of the constitutional jam we have.

  • What will happen next? Oh dear, we must be in never-never land again. Or maybe down the rabbit hole. A contempt citation will result in a prolonged court battle extending beyond Jan. 20, 2009. Before Bush leaves he will pardon his entire criminal administration, especially himself, and Rove will continue raking in the loot as he smears, and slimes every political campaign he touches. Is there a film contract in that script idea?

  • Don’t count on the Dems doing anything. The balls, it seems, are never in their court.

  • I’d just add that Conyers isn’t likely to let this slide.

    Yeah, I’m sure that at this moment Conyers is drafting a sharply worded letter, and he might even wag his finder while reading it alound.

    Other than that . . . .

  • Holding Rove in contempt? Feh. How often has that been threatened now? I’ll believe that it is going to happen only after it has.

  • In agreeing with DB and Always hopeful, I find myself asking myself a question:

    Which is the lesser of two evils—to respect the law that allows a criminal to pardon the crimes of his subordinates, or to disrespect that law by bringing the criminals—the pardoner included—to true justice?

    It would seem that, in this particular instance, respecting the law dishonors the law, and disrespecting the law honors the law.

    Let it be hereby known that, granted the opportunity, I shall choose the latter path, and honor the law….

  • Perhaps Karl’s current employers (Newsweek at least, I hold no hope for WSJ or Faux News) would care to comment on why they continue to pay someone who defies the will of the people, as expressed by our duly elected representatives?

  • All of the above are true. One can only abrogate principles if they exist. One must possess a conscience in order for it to be bothered. Rove’s refusal to testify comes as no surprise; Obama’s failure to defend the constitution does. Put a bag over their heads and them have them speak. You will think there are 70 Republicans in the US Senate. Sad.

  • The only mechanism that can hold this adminstration accountable was Impeachment. That’s off the table.

    Bush and his gang will ride off into the sunset.

    And yes, I’m well aware of the fact that winning an impeachment battle was a long shot at best. And it would have distracted from all the important work Congress has done over the last two years (if funding the war, gutting the fourth admendment etc etc). But better to have had the fight and lost than simply to roll over and play dead.

  • What happens next? NOTHING! Pelosi: Let Rove slide.

    Does anyone really expect anything else? The lawmakers don’t give a crap about you or me. They are the haves and we are the have nots. There is nothing that will be done for us.

    I dearly wish I knew what they had on Pelosi. It has to be good.

  • Can Congress finally find the guts to hold a Bush administration official accountable for wrongdoing? I don’t hold out much hope, since they apparently have agreed to let Miers and Bolten’s supoena refusals to stand. It is incredible
    that during an election year, liars are somehow forgiven because no one wants to risk their own reelection by making anyone angry!

    Yet another reasons for TERM LIMITS–one six year term for everyone and you’re out! And you don’t get lifetime healthcare or pensions. Maybe then we’d get something done in this country.

  • Having been subjected to the slow wheels of justice, this is the first time I am truley glad that long waits can occur between crime & prosecution.

    Please stop hyperventilating, people. At this time, with Bush’s cronies in charge of the Justice department, it does no good to try to bring a Republican into a courtroom.

    Please read the above comment until it sinks in.

    When the office of president puts the Justice Department back into working order, then these crimes can be prosecuted. No doubt Bush will pardon every crony he can prior to leaving office, so why give him one more to do? Wait, prosecute, convict, celebrate. That’s the sad truth about today’s situation.

  • “What happens next?”

    I have considered the posibiity that the Democrats are dragging their feet and stringing this along untill he’s out of reach for a Presidential pardon. Once Bush is out of the way they may seriously go after him.

  • It’s gotta be hard for Conyers to make any moves without Rove knowing about it well in advance, with the wiretaps they have on his phone and email.

  • On a slight side note …

    It’s interesting to me that Rove (who basically resigned his post under Bush as his top advisor) still maintains the loyalty to Bush and the right-wing/GOP movement. Threats of comtempt charges, even jail don’t seem to phase him.

    Could it be solely because the Dems are waffling because it’s an election year … or is there something else behind that loyalty?

    I would think he wouldn’t have much authority or prestige within said movement, especially after the Plame affair, the US Attorney scandal, and now this …

    … or does he? Would anyone here are to speculate?

  • The Democratic Leadership could for once show some spine and actually hold this creep in contempt.

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! God, you’re killing me!

    Can Congress finally find the guts to hold a Bush administration official accountable for wrongdoing?

    That will happen about the time Bush has a bright idea!

  • Here’s Rove’s response to Conyers’ challenge:

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193227.php

    From the ultra-right, “I know an extremist when I see one cuz I am one” lady who runs the Jawa Report.

    Funny that the second Conyers starts mouthing off about going after Rove, suddenly his wife’s in ‘hot water’ according to the right wing rags….wonder if he’ll decide to let it slide now?

  • What happens next?
    There will be a letter written, suggesting that this is unacceptable…then nothing.

  • over at afterdowningstreet.org, they’ve got a post up saying they’ve got solid info that pelosi is working the back channels to get rove’s contempt dropped.

    it certainly is not too wild to disbelieve, given recent events.

    anyone who is able to call nancy pelosi’s office and the members of the judiciary committee to put their two cents is should probably do so at the earliest opportunity. afterdowningstreet.org has the names and numbers for judiciary.

  • With the AG tucked safely in their pockets these subpoena denying crooks realize there are no consequences for telling congress to screw off. Pelosi removed the threat of impeachment which closed all investigations because without that Rove and company will will always claim executive privilege which if impeachment hearings were underway they could not claim. The AG Mukasey will not aid in the investigations viewing his job as mainly protecting anything Bush and company do..

    The legislature not only has no one to enforce their authority but they led by Bush enabling complicit leaders who really don’t want to hold this administration accountable. They lied and said it’s not what the American public wants and just like FISA are easily bribed, bought or scared away from doing what is right or what the public wants.

    I hate the idea of a bloody armed uprising because as has been said “no armed revolution can defeat the US military…but it can effectively eliminate its political leaders.”

    True patriots stand for the rights of the people over government or corporations but this congress stands for the rights of the government and the corporations over the people. Pelosi had no right to take impeachment off the table anymore than they had the right to grant immunity to telecoms spying on us “long before” 9/11 rather than let the courts decide the issue. The only justification for Obama’s support of this FISA fiasco is if his or his family’s life was threatened. There was no downside to opposing the evisceration of the fourth amendment.

    Welcome to the corporate police state where Justice is what the administration says it is. The money party controls and one of its two faces will soon replace the other.
    This is why you know nothing will happen next.

  • btw-do you think for a second that the powers controlling the wealth of this country give a damn about guns, gays, or abortions. That is just the smoke and mirrors used to distract form the oil and war profiteers turning our country into a corporatocracy. These people view our legislators as making it easier or more difficult to expand their agenda but never as preventing them from doing it.

    Justice hell…it’s rich vs poor…democracy vs corporatocracy. Little Hitlers must be eliminated wherever they are found. Sooner or later Rove will become irrelevant and I pray it’s sooner.

  • I can’t understand why Pelosi or any Democrat would want to quash a contempt citation, unless it was because there is a move afoot to prosecute wrongdoing after the pardon option is no longer available. After all people, the contempt (trial or whatever it would look like) violation would be an exercise in futility if Bush only used it as another attempt to abuse or even extend his powers as the president.

    These people are criminals and we should indeed prosecute, but only when we have a possibility of a just outcome. There is an old biblical proverb that says not to try to raid the home of a strong man without first tying up the strong man. I can only hope that this is what our leadership is now thinking, because their reluctance to do anything about this blatant abuse of power is discouraging and disturbing.

  • Battered-spouse syndrome is alive and well in the Democratic-led Congress.

    Until an actual attempt is made (and I’m talking physical) to get Rove to apear before the Committee, then as far as I’m concerned, it’s all horse shit. I don’t care if Bush immediately appears by Rove’s side and invokes immunity for him. I’d PREFER that. I want the world to see that Bush protects his ass-pals over and at the expense of the Constitution. But for the Committe to roll over AGAIN, and AGAIN and AGAIN, with a sharply-worded letter to be their magical talisman over criticism that they’re not doing their job…what’s the old saying about how insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Either our elected officials give a shit about the rule of law or they don’t. They made it clear, post-FISA, that they don’t, but it’s never too late to learn.

    But ultimately, we’re to blame, we elect these pussies because we either assume they’ll do the job or we’re too lazy to make sure they do. And we can’t really hold them responsible until elections roll around. Until then, they’re free to suck as much as they want.

    God I hope things get better come January. I don’t expect them to, but I’m hoping. Maybe a Dem in the White House might inspire the Dems in Congress to do their friggin’ jobs.

  • It just kills me how people in the Bush administration keep insisting on just coming to chat with members of Congress but refuse to speak under oath. Isn’t that as much as an admission that you’re planning on lying? Otherwise why refuse to speak under oath? And it’s not like Rove is concerned about lying after taking an oath, except he’s afraid he’ll perjure himself if he forgets one strand of his web of lies. I still crave seeing Rove in an orange jumpsuit.

  • Hasn’t the admin. claimed that Bush had no role in any of this? If that’s true, on what basis can Rove claim executive privilege?

  • No one in congress gives a flip about testamony or truth. This entire episode is political, as always. The administration has as many rights as the legislative branch. Congress can print out subpoenas all day long, but that doean’t make them legal or worthy of special consideration.

    Congressional supoenas are not Holy or Righteous. They are a worm on a hook attached to a line. The democrats in congress are hoping their intended “fish” is stupid enough to bite. When that doesn’t happen, the democrats hope against hope someone will capture the fish and force the hook in its mouth.

    The truth is this administration, like all administration before, can fire the AGs for any reason or no reason at any time without having to explain the action to anyone. See the Clinton administration.

    Another truth is the only “rule of law” which is being violated is by the democrats in congress by their want to once again bastardize the Constitution as they pretend to be some higher authority than the executive branch. They know they have no ground on which to stand. That is why this is going nowhere. It can’t. The congressional democrats don’t have a leg to stand on. In fact, they are risking personal investigations by the DOJ due to attempted partisan use of what the democrats hope they can sell to the public as congressional power.

    The last truth is this episode is another desperate try to get revenge for President Clinton’s legitimate impeachment before time runs out. When it came to perjury and obstruction of justice, Clinton’s crimes – real crimes – the then congress wasn’t on imaginary ground. This is eating away at the soul of the democrat party. They are in danger of being exposed for the crooks and liars they are.

    Unless the democrats can equalize the lawlesssness of the Clinton adminstration (real) and the Bush adminstration (wishful thinking), it will mean Clinton really was a corrupt perjurer and justice obstructor, and it will mean the democrat party is the party of crooks and criminals, which we all know is true anyway.

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