Obama, McCain, and redefining the word ‘offense’

Back when Rudy Giuliani was a presidential candidate, the one phrase he repeated more than any other was about his desire to “stay on offense” when it came to national security. He was never altogether clear what that meant, but it apparently had something to do with invading and occupying much of the Middle East.

Now is the ideal time to start redefining words like “offense,” and bring some sense to the national security debate.

In his speech yesterday in DC, Barack Obama did a very good job of trying to change the discussion, and explain why the political establishment has been thinking about these issues the wrong way for too long. Obama said, for example, that George Bush and John McCain “label any timetable to redeploy our troops ‘surrender,’ even though we would be turning Iraq over to a sovereign Iraqi government — not to a terrorist enemy.” In other words, “surrender” doesn’t mean what Republican talking points say it means.

Likewise, Obama argued that it’s time to change our understanding of “success” in Iraq: “[T]rue success in Iraq — victory in Iraq — will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. True success will take place when we leave Iraq to a government that is taking responsibility for its future – a government that prevents sectarian conflict, and ensures that the al Qaeda threat which has been beaten back by our troops does not reemerge. That is an achievable goal if we pursue a comprehensive plan to press the Iraqis stand up.”

Today, in another strong set of remarks on national security, Obama took on the word “offense.”

“We must never let down our guard, nor suffer another failure of imagination. It’s time for sustained and aggressive action — to take the offense against new dangers abroad, while shoring up our defenses at home. As President … I will speak clearly and candidly with the American people about what can be done — what must be done — to protect our country and our communities.”

When Giuliani talked about “taking the offense,” he meant by further execution of a neocon vision of the world. When Obama talks about “taking the offense,” he means something very different.

Greg Sargent has posted the prepared text in its entirety, and I’d recommend taking a look, but this was the portion that stood out for me.

“The danger, though, is that we are constantly fighting the last war – responding to the threats that have come to fruition, instead of staying one step ahead of the threats of the 21st century. This is what the 9/11 Commission called our “failure of imagination.” And, after 9/11, nowhere was this more apparent than in our invasion of Iraq. Instead of adjusting to the stateless threats of the 21st century, we invaded and occupied a state that had no collaborative relationship with al Qaeda. Instead of taking aggressive steps to secure the world’s most dangerous technology, we have spent almost a trillion dollars to occupy a country in the heart of the Middle East that no longer had any weapons of mass destruction.

“It’s time to update our national security strategy to stay one step ahead of the terrorists – to see clearly the emerging threats of our young century, and to take action to make the American people more safe and secure. It’s time to look ahead — at the dangers of today and tomorrow rather than those of yesterday. America cannot afford another president who doesn’t understand the threats that confront us now and in the future.

“Today, we will focus on nuclear, biological, and cyber threats — three 21st century threats that have been neglected for the last eight years. It’s time to break out of Washington’s conventional thinking that has failed to keep pace with unconventional threats. In doing so, we’ll better ensure the safety of the American people, while building our capacity to deal with other challenges — from public health to privacy.”

Greg noted, “I’s worth noting once again that Obama is staking his candidacy on the rather audacious belief that he can change, through persuasion, the way national security is discussed in this country — that Dems don’t have to cede this turf to the GOP.”

Quite right. Obama’s messages this week — the NYT op-ed on Monday, the DC speech yesterday, and the Purdue discussion today — are just about pitch-perfect. He isn’t defensive, and he’s not relying on conservative frames to discuss national security. He’s taking steps — and I hope he takes even more — to argue that the nation has been arguing in a fundamentally flawed way.

Now, I’ve seen all the recent polls. Obama’s strength is domestic policy and the economy; McCain’s strength is foreign policy and national security. The gap, on both fronts, is quite large. The conventional wisdom suggests Obama should try to change the subject, and keep the focus on the issues where he has the most support.

I tend to think this conventional thinking has it backwards, and I’m glad Obama is ignoring the conventional approach. There’s absolutely no reason for Obama to cede this ground — McCain’s wrong, he’s been wrong, and his vision for the future is ridiculously wrong. Too many Americans perceive him as competent and strong, based on little more than media myths and commercials.

Obama is talking to voters like they’re grown-ups, making the case for a more progressive, more coherent, and more effective approach to world affairs. I hope Americans are listening.

I’ve said it before, others have said it better before, and I’ll say it again: debate, debate, debate. Put Obama next to McCain, LIVE with no time for Mark Halperin and/or AP to distort anything and let ’em rip in front of a nationwide audience. You’ll see McCain plummet like a comet.

  • I predict that by tomorrow, McCain will announce his most offensive strategy yet. Possibly something about how Iraq got raped by a gorilla and is now in love with the gorilla.

  • I’ve said it before, others have said it better before, and I’ll say it again: debate, debate, debate.

    Part of me is wondering if the Obama camp is playing rope-a-dope with McCain on the town hall meetings: Get McCain to continue to complain about them, continue to demand that they’re a central element of the race, continue to get the media hooked on them … and then show up and kick the everloving shit out of him, on the stage and standards McCain himself created.

  • Other Democrats need to start mirroring Obama’s talking points better. Especially the congressional leaders.

    For the last six months Obama has been given Democrats a working example of how to talk about foreign policy without seceding ground to the Republicans and without getting trapped in the Republican frame.

    The big thing for Obama is his lack of fear and timidity. He’s not afraid of the argument. Way do many Dems buy into the ‘beltway’ philosophy that they have nothing of value to offer on foreign policy.

  • thorin, if you didn’t see Biden on Today this morning, you should try and find a clip. He took weirdly-grinning Lindsey Graham apart. along the way he did a nice job of refuting the “Obama has flip-flopped on Iraq”, tied Iraq to the economy, and his very closing words as Lauer cut them off was “that’s why John McCain is not qualified to be Commander-in-Chief.”

    i still think he is too high a risk to be a VP candidate, but Biden is really on his game as an attack-dog surrogate right now.

  • How anyone can possibly make the claim that McCain is “better” on foreign policy or national security is beyond me. I thought that was a “giveme”, that he’s a Bush expansion of totally failed policies. “I want to continue what has been a disaster for the last 7yrs.”

    I want to believe Obama…I really do. I want to believe it is not just empty speeches…if only he’d done something or taken a stand against Bush policies when he was actually in a position to “do” something. I know you can’t trust McCain…that he’s another neocon liar. I trust more easily when one has not previously broken my trust. I’m trying to trust again because it sounds like something I support, a good plan but I find it hard to be enthusiastic. Politicians say what gets them elected. If Pelosi said it, I wouldn’t believe it. Just saying …

  • Obama is talking to voters like they’re grown-ups….

    Recent electoral history suggests that talking to a population that thinks like children as though they are children is a winning game plan.

    That said, I hope you’re right. There’s certainly no reason for Obama to try to hide issues of foreign policy on which he’s right and McCain is wrong. The people who aren’t willing to listen are never going to vote for him in a million years anyway.

  • I agree with both my friend FreeProton & TR: Let ’em debate so the public can see first-hand the differences between Obama & McCain for ourselves & another post right on the money, SB. Thanks.

  • Obama does have a better argument. I wish he’d used it on FISA.

    Like Joey I hope he means what he says.

    Obama is building his campaign step by step, plank by plank in what seems to be a very intelligent way. First there was the mini-biographical tour tied in to the Fourth of July. This week is a three-pronged maneuver about foreign affairs linked to his upcoming Iraq tour. Nice.

  • Re: debates & surrogates, I’d also love to see a debate where Hillary takes on Lieberman on Obama’s vs. McCain’s positions. I’m sure that it would get a lot of attention, and Hillary has more than amply proved that she’s a competent debater and is amazingly tireless. Put her in a room with somebody who can’t win without falsehoods, and the fireworks would be a sight to see…

  • OMG, dems are such whiners. Give it up on FISA, how can you question Obama’s integrity when he’s already proved he has more integrity in his little finger than 99% of politicians have in total. FISA is done, it’s dead. So the government pushed corporations to do warrantless wiretapping, and they complied, and now they want protection from lawsuits. This is so bloody minor compared to the giveaways to other large corporations (the oil companies are a perfect example, although certainly not the only one), nevermind how insignificant this is when compared to the policy differences between the two presumptive candidates.

    Seriously. Let it go. There are more important fights to be won this year.

  • As much as I am looking forward to the debates, I don’t have any expectation that they will change the dynamic at all. The truth is they rarely do. I don’t know how many of teh readers here remember how badly Bush tanked in his second debate with Kerry or, indeed, how poorly he did in pretty much all the Gore debates. It didn’t change anything.

    What will happen is that McCain will be relatively well prepared for the debates which is to say he will avoid making a complete fool of himself. Then no matter despite whatever half truths or inconsistencies Obama catches him in, the media will declare it a draw maybe even declare McCain the winner. They don’t much care about substance as much as theater and as long as McCain manages to deliver his line without some major faux pas, they will carry him. Of course, I hope it doesn’t go that way but if recent history is any guide, that is exactly what will happen. Expecting anything else is a “mug’s game.”

    But even if it does not, it is just a matter of fact that debates just haven’t produced much movement in recent elections. Its nic to think that they give people a chance to make a more substantive judgment but that doesn’t seem to be the result.

  • unfrienldyfire – ther’s a lot of debate about that, but there is no question that there were enough “low information” voters out there that made it close enough to steal.

  • The public is STUPID! That’s the problem.

    To which I’d like to juxtapose something from The West Wing, specifically the episode “Galileo”:

    CJ: Everyone’s stupid in an election year, Charlie.
    Charlie: No, everyone gets treated stupid in an election year, CJ.

    I admire Senator Obama in large part because he’s trying the radical and untried tack of assuming that the American voter might be uninformed but he/she is not stupid.
    Is it true? There are days I have my doubts. But we have to assume it is true and act like it is true. Or else there is no hope at all for this wonderful, benighted, amazing country — no hope of self-governance ever.

  • All most people see or read of the campaign are the Corporate media TV reports. Yesterday’s speech was Obama was reduced to one sentence: “In fact — as should have been apparent to President Bush and Sen. McCain — the central front in the war on terror is not Iraq, and it never was.” on Andrea Mitchell’s report on NBC Nightly News. It was immediately followed by McCain and Bush sound bites, Bush saying that Obama’s position was dictated by MoveOn.org and Mitchell’s wrapup completely inside the GOP frame. It’s hard to get even an acknowledgement of other viewpoints in the corporate media.

  • Unfortunately, in a debate it will come down to how well-dressed a candidate is. Did he smile? Look at that tie! Exude confidence when greeting the crowd. Which one reminded you of your dear old grandfather, or your favorite uncle.

    The substance of the debate won’t matter, especially if Obama starts talking about facts, plans and ideas and McCain growls like the maverick straight talker he is.

    Chris Matthews will tell us who one and who therefore deserves to be president.

  • The key to winning is not to emphasize your own positives, but to reframe one’s opponents positives into negatives. The key to the Swiftboating was not the scandelous untruth of the attacks on Kerry’s service; it was that we Democrats had put so much faith in the fact that Kerry’s military record would immunize him against the charge of being weak on the enemies of the US. The only way that they could make that case was to lie outrageously, so they did.
    But there is no need to lie to make it clear that McCain’s greatest perceived strength is his supposed authority on foreign affairs. If Obama can make it clear that McCain is a not very quick guy trapped in the failed and completely conventional foreign policy thinking of the last decades, then what reason is left to vote for McCain?
    RIght now, McCain is not demonstrating any superior grasp of military or diplomatic strategy for the Middle East. His only claim is that he listens to the commanders on the ground while Obama doesn’t. He doesn’t sound any smarter or more informed than Obama. But after Obama goes to Iraq, then what does McCain say?
    The McCain campaign is running out of Oxygen — clearly definable differences between the two campaigns that work in their favor.

  • By the way, if you think that the people are stupid, easily swayed by trivialities, or captive to misleading media so that you are convinced that no matter how the campaign is run, it is inevitable that the GOP will win, then why are you wasting your time reading and commenting on election-oriented blogs, except to indulge yourself. This is a political campaign, not a porno theatre.

  • ““We must never let down our guard, nor suffer another failure of imagination.” Senator Barack Hussein Obama (D) Illinois

    Thank you sir! Kick BGII in the balls and spit in Condi Rice’s eye.

  • The conventional wisdom suggests Obama should try to change the subject, and keep the focus on the issues where he has the most support. — CB

    According to the conventional wisdom, Dems should also practice “siege mentality” — defend and hold what you already have, instead of expanding your territory. Vide all the states which don’t count in the primaries (because they’re *red*, man!) and the states that aren’t worth fighting for in general elections (whistle past Dixie). Given how well that tried and true “conventional wisdom” has served us in the past, I’m willing to take my risks with Obama’s approach. The outcome can’t, possibly, be any worse.

    Robby-D, @14,

    If the FISA issue were only about the telecom immunity, I’d agree with you. Stripping telecoms of immunity and the possible subsequent lawsuits might have been useful in discovering the full extent of White House’s culpability, but not much more. But what the FISA “fix” has also done is allowed the expansion of the “terrorist watch list” from the current 1mil+ to, say, 100mil strictly on the president’s say so.For someone like me, who grew up in a country where it was an *automatic assumption* that every phone call was being listened to and every international letter opened and read, that state of affairs *in US* is very hard to swallow and harder to digest. That Obama was complicit in making it possible is, to me, inexcusable.

    Anyway… It’s my party and I’ll bitch if I want to 🙂

  • Let’s all just pledge to put the pressure on the revisit FISA once Obama is elected. Or better yet, put in new legislation that quietly makes the ugly portions of the new FISA law null and void.

    Right now I’m just giving my Obama money to ACLU to fight the lawsuit.

  • Obama is a genius. He has taken advantage of being an “unknown”.

    He’s playing the part of being the newcomer to Washington politics who has “no connections”. That part is true.

    He has coupled that with the beautiful message of “change and hope” for the future like so many politicians before him. It works.

    Over the last three weeks Obama has taken virtually every position on every major issue.

    His people have been given the opportunity to extract from public opinion polls the best possible combination of positions to take to get the most possible votes.

    Day by day as he flips and flops on issues as he learns more and more about what America wants to hear.

    By the DNC he’ll have all the information he needs to know who he’s going to be until the election.

    For the time between the DNC and the election Obama will follow a straight line but imaginary platform that will get him elected.

    During those last two months the public will have become so enamored with his sweet talk that they will forget all the wishy-washiness we are seeing now.

    IN JANUARY THE REAL BARACK OBAMA WILL APPEAR.

    For now — like a parentless child — he continues to search for his identity.

    God help us all!

    I’m voting for John McCain in November.

  • God help us all!

    I’m voting for John McCain in November. — anybody but Obama, @ 25

    By all means, *do*. Even assuming that God exists — an idea I’m not yet ready to entertain — I doubt he’s interested in American politics. So, McCain will need the help of every lackwit there is.

  • How can you say the American people are stupid?

    Look at what they did—they concluded the Iraq war was a mistake, They reached this conclusion without any help whatsoever from any maajor American instituion including the corporate media, the Commentariat, the White House, the Congress and even the Democratic party itself.

    That’s not stupid. That’s pretty damn encouraging.

    Jim

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