Flag amendment picks up a few more votes

Now that it’s passed the House, a constitutional amendment to ban “desecration” of the American flag is making progress in the Senate. The newest supporters, it saddens me to report, are vulnerable Dem incumbents who don’t want to see “Senator backs flag burning” ads next year.

Sens. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), who face potentially difficult reelection campaigns next year, plan to break ranks with a majority of their fellow Democrats next month to support a constitutional amendment banning desecration of the U.S. flag.

Preliminary surveys conducted last week suggest that the amendment, which passed the House by a 286-130 vote, is one or two votes short of the 67 it needs in the Senate to be submitted to the states for ratification.

That, of course, can change. This week, the amendment picked up three new co-sponsors, two of whom are Dems — George Voinovich (R-Ohio), Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), and Mark Dayton (D-Minn.).

So, are there 34 votes in the Senate to stop this thing? It may literally hinge on a vote or two. Robert Byrd of West Virginia and Kent Conrad of North Dakota have opposed the amendment in the past, but both are up for re-election in “red” states next year, and neither has said for sure how they’ll vote on the amendment when it comes to the floor.

And speaking of the flag amendment, my friend Poppy reminded me that Bush, who supports the measure, may want to revisit his own policies on proper respect for the flag.

desecration

I guess it depends on what the meaning of “desecration” is, right?

Dayton’s not even running again. What’s up with this?

  • I personally feel that making shorts (to sit one) and t-shirts (o attache it to your chest), and little flags out of toothpicks (to stick in sandwitches) and other decorative flag merchandise is a form of desacration that is practices a lot more and done on an open basis than is burning it.

  • Remember, if all those who have voted in past congresses for the amendment, either as members of the House or Senate, stick with the “yea” position, the amendment has 65 votes (source). Add Salazar and Dayton, who were not members of Congress during prior votes, then you’ve got 67. Hopefully a handful of these folks will change their minds given the latest polling on the issue, but I doubt it. Sigh.

  • I left this one once before, but I still like it:

    Yes, and then they can make flag desecration
    punishable by death by crucifixion on the
    White House lawn, or the Mall. Then they could
    exhume Terri Shiavo and have her preserved
    complete with smile and motorized eyeballs, and
    blinking eyelids. They could sit her in a wheel
    chair and Tom Delay and Bill Frist could hold
    hands with her at the same time while they
    sing the National Anthem during the crucifixtions.

  • As it stands now, the only one of them who faces an even remotely difficult contest is Ben Nelson? Is Debbie Stabenow trying that hard to appease the wingers in West Michigan?

  • Why are the Christians not opposing this proposed amendment on the grounds that the flag is not, and should not be viewed as, a sacred object? For something to be capable of “desecration” it must first be “sacred” — isn’t that a problem for Christians??

  • ukexpat is correct. According the American Heritage Dictionary, “To desecrate” is “To violate the sacredness of; profane.”

    This either means that the Rethugs and so-called Christians believe the US flag to be sacred (“Gott mit uns”) or it means that they don’t live in a reality-based world or both.

    It fits right in there with that famous Biblical quote: “Render unto Caesar the things that are God’s, and unto God the things that are Caesar’s.”

  • This either means that the Rethugs and so-called Christians believe the US flag to be sacred (“Gott mit uns”) or it means that they don’t live in a reality-based world or both.

    Gee, you mean there are contradictions in fundie christianity? Who’d have ever thought it!

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