What Toyota’s choice tells us about America’s future

Toyota had been making its popular RAV-4 only in Japan and was looking to open a plant in North America. Canada offered the company $125 million in incentives to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs. Alabama offered Toyota double. Where’s the new plant going? Canada — because Toyota decided it couldn’t afford to gamble on American workers and the American health care system.

As the CBC recently reported, Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, said Toyota found this to be a fairly simple choice.

Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use “pictorials” to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

“The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario,” Fedchun said.

In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

“Most people don’t think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage,” he said.

And as Paul Krugman explained today, Toyota’s choice came after southern voters made a choice of their own.

There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs.

Bitter irony, indeed.

But let’s not forget that it’s not just education. Toyota also faced a choice between a country in which the government finances a national-health care system, and a country in which corporations bear the costs.

You might be tempted to say that Canadian taxpayers are, in effect, subsidizing Toyota’s move by paying for health coverage. But that’s not right, even aside from the fact that Canada’s health care system has far lower costs per person than the American system, with its huge administrative expenses. In fact, U.S. taxpayers, not Canadians, will be hurt by the northward movement of auto jobs.

To see why, bear in mind that in the long run decisions like Toyota’s probably won’t affect the overall number of jobs in either the United States or Canada. But the result of international competition will be to give Canada more jobs in industries like autos, which pay health benefits to their U.S. workers, and fewer jobs in industries that don’t provide those benefits. In the U.S. the effect will be just the reverse: fewer jobs with benefits, more jobs without.

So what’s the impact on taxpayers? In Canada, there’s no impact at all: since all Canadians get government-provided health insurance in any case, the additional auto jobs won’t increase government spending.

But U.S. taxpayers will suffer, because the general public ends up picking up much of the cost of health care for workers who don’t get insurance through their jobs. Some uninsured workers and their families end up on Medicaid. Others end up depending on emergency rooms, which are heavily subsidized by taxpayers.

Kevin Drum has mentioned this more times than I can count, but it’s inevitable that Big Business in the U.S. will jump onto the nationalized healthcare bandwagon with both feet. The status quo simply costs too much.

In this context, a federally-financed system can and should be included in any discussion of globalization. As Ezra Klein recently noted, “Rather than making this a moral crusade about treating the sick, make it an economic campaign to restore the competitiveness of the American worker. Bundle it with a variety of other programs like enhanced science/math spending and well-funded retraining programs and you should have a highly sellable package that attracts support on multiple fronts, at least from the general electorate.”

Politically, the Toyota example is also an embarrassment that Dems can use as a valuable lesson. The Republican message is that we can’t afford to invest more in education and health care. The Dem response is simple: we can’t afford not to.

THis is a nightmare. We fall behind because of conservative policies, while our neighbor passes us by because of their liberal policies.

How long until the next election?

  • National health insurance, which should be a no brainer even
    for the Repigs who have no hearts, simply can’t get any traction
    in this country. Every other advanced nation offers it. And the
    Democrats seem to be running from the concept, as the leaders
    move toward the right.

    As a retired chief actuary for a national life and health insurer,
    I can guarantee that the current private insurance industry is fully
    capable of delivering basic health coverage to all Americans
    if a carefully configured plan is put together by government and
    industry leaders of good faith. We do not need nationalized
    medicine, nor even nationalized insurance to cover everyone,
    cradle to grave.

    So why don’t we do it? You got me. Everyone else does.
    But we can’t.

    Part of the problem is plain old Republican mean-spiritedness.
    They can’t stand the idea of another basic human right in
    this country, and their propaganda machine has been
    successful in turning a sizable minority of the American
    people against it, linking it to welfare, which it is not. But
    the Repigs don’t care about facts, do they?

    Another problem is that politicians simply cannot grasp
    the complexities of the insurance business, and thus
    every time this issue arises, they shrink from the food fight
    the special interests get into, having no idea how to sort
    the mess out. Then they throw up their hands and leave
    it to the next generation.

    And around and around we go, getting nowhere. The
    situation is so unnecessary and so tragic.

    But as we become ever more partisan, the chances of
    solving this unconscionable failure of American society
    continue to diminish.

  • It goes without saying that the more we dumb down the American education system with pseudo-science and faux-religious dogma the worse this problem is going to become. Will Kansas become the next state to be rejected someday because it’s people are just too dumb to work the machinery? It sickens the soul to contemplate it, but it’s a real possibility if something isn’t done to stop the tide of ignorance, and soon.

  • So why don’t we do it? You got me. Everyone else does.
    But we can’t.

    There are a hundred million people in this country who vote, and half of them would gladly live in a cardboard box and eat sparrows toasted on an old curtain rod if they were sure that the black-immigrant-gay-Hispanic-atheist-Hindu under the next bridge over didn’t even have the curtain rod.

    There are a number of OECD and IMF studies that show that popular support for social provision in general, and anything involving transfer payments in particular, is inversely proportional to the ethnic and racial diversity of the country in question.

    People will volunteer to starve before they see The Other take their money.

  • To quote someone from here a while back: “I’ll never be rich enough or mean enough to be a Republican.”

    And another CB contributor: “Anyone who isn’t a millionaire and votes Republican a big, fat sucker.”

  • Speaking as a Canadian, you have my sympathy. Sadly the Repugnicans policies affect us in the long run as well. For as your economy goes, so, to a large degree does ours. I hope that the sane centre does manage to reclaim your country. As an asside, the conservative party here has been trying to undermine our health care system for the past ten years here. I pray that they never succeed.

  • Liam J,

    Living close to the Canadian border, here in Bellingham WA, we have a joke:

    Q. What do you call a well-educated, polite, non gun-toting, non-xenophobic North American?

    A. A Canadian.

    In this country our notion of left-right is what most civilized countires would call center-right. I also hope your conservative party never succeeds. We have a great deal to learn from you. And thank Whomever for CBC-FM.

  • Not to take away from the discussion but one of the best bumper stickers that I ever saw.

    Working people voting for Republicans is like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders

    And hail to the Canandians, there have been several of them posting over at Orcinus including the newly expatriated Mrs. Robinson, and they sound like a happy bunch. It sounds like our neighbors to the north have a much better grip on how a society should function.

  • There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs.

    So how do you convince voters that taxing the very affluent at a modest rate will cost the state jobs? I mean, those voters would have to be dumb as a post to buy that line. Oh yeah…

    One of democracy’s shortcomings. Maybe the fairness doctrine helped a bit with things like this back in the day, but without that it’s propaganda and money. Dazzle the rubes with the old shell game and they’ll vote to pick their own pockets. This is, indeed, bitter irony, as Krugman so perfectly states.

  • I support everyone here’s political leanings, but everyone might want to get their facts straight. Honda, Toyota, and Nissan spent lots of time and money refuting Fedchun’s remarks, and Fedchun himself wrote a letter of apology to the Birmingham News swearing up and down that his remarks were taken out of context. BMW’s director of North American operations, Bill Taylor, wrote a lengthy editorial denouncing Fedchun and praising his own workforce.

    As part of my job, I spoke with workforce directors at Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, and Toyota, and they detailed their screening processes for me–none of which would have allowed illiterate employees to work in the cafeteria, much less on the assembly lines. Workforce trainers are not spin doctors: if they’re having problems, it’s as likely as not that they’ll tell you about it in great detail.

    So then I thought to myself, “Gee, why would a Canadian manufacturing executive trash Southern workers, when his companies are in direct competition with…ah, now I see.”

    I realize that it gives everyone a little chuckle to play up the stereotype of the hick Southerner–after all, this blog is called Carpetbagger–but please recheck your facts.

    Best wishes from someone who’s an intellectual, a liberal, and a Southerner.

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