We’re going to be there a long, long time

In order for the United States to lessen its presence in Iraq, we’re told, Iraqi security forces have to grow in number, be trained, and be prepared to fight an insurgency. How’s that going? Remarkably badly.

The reformed Iraqi Ministry of Defense, a crucial element of any American plan to withdraw troops, is riddled with crippling problems that have raised concerns about its ability to keep Iraqi units paid, fed and equipped once it assumes full responsibility for the army, American and Iraqi commanders say.

The shortcomings of the ministry, which was overhauled under the American occupation authorities last year, are a growing concern to the American commanders. Hoping to withdraw large numbers of the 135,000 American combat troops in the next year, these commanders say their plans hinge on a functioning ministry. If American troops leave without one in place, they say, the Iraqi Army could quickly collapse.

“What are lacking are the systems that pay people, that supply people, that recruit people, that replace the wounded and AWOL, and systems that promote people and provide spare parts,” said a top American commander in Iraq, who asked not to be identified because his assessment of Iraqi abilities went beyond the military’s public descriptions.

“If they don’t have that capability, we won’t be able to take the training wheels off and let them operate independently,” the commander said.

Iraq’s Defense Ministry can’t pay, feed, equip, supply, recruit, or properly train Iraqi security forces. Other than that, though, it’s going well.

One Iraqi sergeant, who spent $100 of his own money on a new flak jacket, said, “The Ministry of Defense is useless.” This is the same ministry responsible for maintaining a Iraqi military.

This report comes just two weeks after we learned that only 3 of the 107 military and paramilitary Iraqi battalions are capable of planning, executing, and sustaining independent counterinsurgency operations.

We’re going to be in Iraq for a long, long time.

“One Iraqi sergeant, who spent $100 of his own money on a new flak jacket, said, ‘The Ministry of Defense is useless.'”

One could say the same about our own Department of Defense…

  • Excuse me, but don’t these guys have oil wells to support the country? Isn’t that the bill of goods we were sold?

  • My impression of our plans to significantly draw down forces is that they are predicated on our needs, not necessarily the needs of Iraq. By “our’ I mean the military’s need to retain a functioning Army and Marines and Republican’s need to reduce its exposure on this prior to the ’06 elections. I think our plans will proceed with fingers crossed that Iraq fall apart later rather than sooner.

  • You may be right that we will be there for a long long time. However, something Bush and others have said, keeps coming back to my mind. He said that Iraq is a sovereign nation. When I heard him say that I thought – Aha, that is his exit strategy. Somehow he will find a way to leave Iraq by saying that since Iraq is now a soverign country they can deal with the insurgents themselves and there is no need for our forces to stay there. Maybe I am wrong, but this struck me as something this administration would do.

  • Yes, Mr. Flibble, the same thing can be said of our own DoD.

    Yes, Mr. LWordLover, that IS the bill of goods we were sold.

    No, Mr. Dillinger, our plans to draw down the troops from Iraq have NOTHING nearly so altruistic as saving the remants of an effective military; it has EVERYTHING to do with Bush’s plans to invade Iran (yeah, Iran, only one letter off from Iraq as John Stewart would say).

    Yes, LynChi (sorry, I don’t know your gender) is on to something, but the true “exit strategy” is NOT for Bush to say Iraq is now sovereign and therefore the job is done; rather, the exit strategy is to have the new government, after the scheduled December 2005 elections, tell Bush that the job is done and that the U.S. must leave.

    Good comments, everyone; it was fun responding to each of them. And notwithstanding all of them, CB is right: we WILL be there a long, long time. To wit: another 14 marines killed today in Al Anbar Province; that makes 21 Marines in the last two days, and a total of 45 troops in the last ten days. Yup, the “last throes” are “at the end of tunnel,” which is “right around the corner.”

    POST SCRIPT: Did I tell you guys that my son is a Marine Lieutenant? I’m lucky as a parent (so far), as he is still stateside finishing his training as a Naval Flight Officer (“navagator”) on F/A-18D Hornet fighter jets. Won’t be long before he gets sent to fight in this God awful lie (I mean “war”).

  • Did I tell you guys that my son is a Marine Lieutenant?

    I don’t remember hearing that, A.L., and I’m glad you mentioned it. I wish him the best and hope he stays safe.

  • Something we should be considering- exactly how much longer are
    our soldiers going to take this situation before there is a widespread
    mutiny? They are being pressed to the limit almost to the breaking point.
    If things don’t start improving soon this could be a real possibilty. They
    are being attacked by fiends in Iraq and being nickeled and dimed
    to death by our govenment at home. Telling them we are going to keep them there longer is only provoking a bad situation to get much worse.
    I hope they all come home safely and soon. They deserve better.

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